Ramphele takes Mdluli matter to court

2012-05-15 18:15

Johannesburg - Dr Mamphela Ramphele, the former vice chancellor of the University of Cape Town and former managing director of the World Bank, will lead a legal charge to prevent controversial policeman Lieutenant General Richard Mdluli from performing any policing duties.

Freedom Under Law (FUL), a legal lobby group led by retired Constitutional Court judge Johann Kriegler, launched an interdict application against Mdluli and Police Minister Nathi Mthethwa on Tuesday.

Ramphele is a member of FUL’s international advisory board.

In her affidavit before the North Gauteng High Court, Ramphele points out that both former police chief Jackie Selebi and current police boss General Bheki Cele were suspended on lesser charges.

Not enough

Mdluli was moved sideways by Mthethwa last week after the minister instigated an investigation into conspiracy claims made by Mdluli in a letter to President Jacob Zuma.

Mdluli was moved from the crime intelligence unit to the police’s operational division, but Ramphele argues this is not enough.

“Patently [Mdluli’s shift] does not resolve the problem caused by General Mdluli’s reinstatement [after being suspended], and his far-reaching claims of conspiracy.

"By his conduct, the minister accepted that there was a need to act, but has not initiated suspension proceedings, or any other measure which would remove General Mdluli from active daily service in SAPS ... He remains vested with the authority of his rank ... able to exercise the powers vested in a police general under the Police Act and related legislation,” Ramphele argues.

Partial and selective treatment

She claims that Mdluli has received “partial and selective” treatment from Mthethwa – himself implicated in the looting of a R200m crime intelligence “slush fund”.

The urgent application has been set down for June 5, but FUL’s lawyers will approach the court to seek an earlier date.

In her affidavit, Ramphele refers to affidavits by Hawks investigators who investigated Mdluli for murder and fraud.

Mdluli was controversially reinstated as crime intelligence boss in March after both murder and fraud cases were dropped by the National Prosecuting Authority.

He is accused of nepotism, fraud and corruption and is currently under investigation by the inspector general of intelligence, advocate Faith Radebe.

“The way in which General Mdluli had been dealt with by the respondents [Mthethwa] reflects an extraordinary degree of a lack of accountability and a breach of a culture of justification under the Constitution which our courts have sought to impose on those who exercise public power,” Ramphele states in her affidavit.

  • CapeChappy - 2012-05-15 18:20

    Well done Dr Ramphele, I salute you. It really does make me more optimistic to know there are people like you out there holding these unethical buggers accountable. I wish there were more people like you in power.

      Jack - 2012-05-15 18:33

      Here, here..out with the evil scum. One problem is that he's definitely not the only one. The country is full of his type. Lowest life forms on planet earth.

      Tsotsi-Baby - 2012-05-15 18:38

      This mdluli guy is a serious crook,take him out. #Power to the people

      Michele - 2012-05-15 18:45

      Spot on CapeChappy. What irks me though is that it is always upto private citizens who have to force the ANC through judicial purposes to do the right thing. Even a 7 year old child would be able to see Mdluli is about as rotten an apple as you are going to get. The man thinks he is J Edgar Hoover.

      Press - 2012-05-15 18:45

      Yes - close the (assisted) exits for both Mdluli and Mthethwa please . . .

      Sonja - 2012-05-15 18:51

      Tsotsi fake troll.... get a life outside news24. ...TROLL!!

      Tsotsi-Baby - 2012-05-15 18:53

      @Sonja we don't have to disagree on everything

      lownabester - 2012-05-15 18:59

      This Lady, Dr Ramaphele deserves all our support, One fantastic Human Being. Well Done, Dr!!!!!!!!!!

      Atholl - 2012-05-15 18:59

      Michelle Said ::} ''What irks me though is that it is always upto private citizens who have to force the ANC through judicial purposes'' ..... and ... The Person who is responsible to act - (Police Minister Nathi Mthethwa) has sworn an oath to protect the Constitution. I.O.W - Private Citizens have to mobilize their own resources to protect the Constitution where those who have sworn an oath to do so, do the opposite.

      Comrade - 2012-05-15 19:07

      This woman is bitter,she think too much of herself,she is a failed politician

      rlmbennett - 2012-05-15 19:13

      Gives us some hope, neh?

      Innocent - 2012-05-15 19:16

      @Comrade. Do your research. She is not a politician.

      Innocent - 2012-05-15 19:17

      @Comrade. Do your research. She is not a politician.

      Smilification - 2012-05-15 19:34

      NEWs24 I am outraged! WHY WONT YOU LET ME UPLOAD MY PICTURE! I DEMAND THAT YOU DO! :( It's news worthy! It's important to SOUTH AFRICA! I don't like being censored :(

      Thabang - 2012-05-15 19:44

      I agree CapeChappy. Julius Malema also want him removed. Well done to Dr Ramphele and Malema.

      Ethan - 2012-05-15 21:17

      Well done Dr Ramphele, I salute you.

      CliveK - 2012-05-16 08:36

      Comrade: please read the reactions of most of the black citizens who have responded on this page; I think you must be visiting us from a distant universe.. For failed politicians you need to look no further than most of the ANC cabinet, premiers and MECs.

      Jacqui - 2012-05-16 14:13

      Comrade, this bitter woman has never been a politician. Fool

      Patsy - 2012-05-16 18:16

      Well said, Cape Chappy.

      Sannie - 2012-06-02 23:53

      She is black, you always says black people are bad.

  • Ben Nel - 2012-05-15 18:20

    At last people with integrity are emerging and addressing the rot. There is hope

      Luviwe - 2012-05-15 19:10

      How many are they? I wish we had more.

      Innocent - 2012-05-15 19:17

      This woman has consistently been a voice of reason for many years. But lets give her every bit of acknowledgement she deserves for having had and shown integrity over the years.

      Innocent - 2012-05-15 19:18

      This woman has consistently been a voice of reason for many years. But lets give her every bit of acknowledgement she deserves for having had and shown integrity over the years.

  • Frans - 2012-05-15 18:20

    At last someone with brains and integrity has decided to do something about this clown.

      Luviwe - 2012-05-15 19:11

      This is about the goverenment who treat us with contempt.

  • George - 2012-05-15 18:23

    I haven't hear of FUL but they are no fools it seems.

  • Shirley - 2012-05-15 18:24

    Sanity prevails! At least someone has a spine and wants to stop the rot!

      Luviwe - 2012-05-15 19:12

      But these fools have got no shame.

      Erna - 2012-05-16 10:13

      Was waiting for someone with clout to do something about this Mduli chap. Obviously the concerned people on the ground aren't sufficiently important enough to the ANC to get a reaction out of them.

  • Piet - 2012-05-15 18:25

    The paw-paw closing in on the fan....

  • Bokfan - 2012-05-15 18:27

    Steve Biko would be proud

      Luviwe - 2012-05-15 19:14

      I'm proud of her and today I wish she can be the face of DA from today, that is our last hope. I mean the unemployed.

      Innocent - 2012-05-15 19:18

      Amandla Bokfan!

      Innocent - 2012-05-15 19:18

      Amandla Bokfan!

  • magomarele - 2012-05-15 18:30

    I love S.A. and its clever people. Finally, our pleas have been heard by intellectuals who, despite possibility of reprisal, say we can't sit on the bench and watch idiots destroy our beloved country. Go for it Dr Ramphele, we're behind you all the way.

      Luviwe - 2012-05-15 19:15

      Thank you bro. ( Ndiyabulela )

      Denzel - 2012-05-15 20:11

      It's very sad to see the direction this gvt is taking, doc u represent the voiceless and how sad that we as black people oppress each other; it's sickness and such a shame. Mudluli do the most honourable thing and leave the state.

  • ChrisKhanye - 2012-05-15 18:31

    I support this move 100 + % because again it puts our Constitutional Democracy to a test. Institutionalized corruption must be fought from all fronts at all costs. Richard Mdluli is a liability to this country and is only an asset to the one who can't differentiate between the two or it's to serve personal and not national interest.

      Luviwe - 2012-05-15 19:17

      I thought I was the only one who posessed this idea of an institutionalised corruption. Our so called liberators are a shame to the real liberation fighters.

      Erna - 2012-05-16 10:15

      It is encouraging to note that people of all nationalities are in favour of this move.

  • Sharon - 2012-05-15 18:32

    YAYAYAYAY - Whenever I hear Richard Mdluli's name, my blood curdles. he represents everything that is wrong in our government. All I can say to him is GOOD RIDDANCE TO BAD RUBBISH. Well done, Dr Ramphele, you make me so proud!!!!

  • Maliganpa - 2012-05-15 18:32

    The matter is getting more controversial by the day. I called upon the president to take an action before the matter gets out of hand , and now his hand will be forced to take an action by the courts. This is a winnable case mr president

      Sylvester.Mohloli - 2012-05-15 18:42

      Zuma, acting decisively????! lol

      Luviwe - 2012-05-15 19:19

      Hassani you were dreaming. When did the so called president acted when he had to without someone to think for him and force him to?

      Innocent - 2012-05-15 19:20

      Hasani, your comments and postings make sense!

      Innocent - 2012-05-15 19:20

      Hasani, your comments and postings make sense!

      Jacqui - 2012-05-16 14:16

      HasaniP. your President is too busy with domestic matters to worry about trivialities like running a country.

  • Saleé - 2012-05-15 18:33

    Very nice! No, ...commendable!

  • maseratifittipaldi - 2012-05-15 18:40

    Sanity. And there are many who think the same. Why do we have to suffer the fools of populism? Surely we can find a way to make democracy work in the right direction? Leadership is no good if it does not benefit the followers. Thanks, Dr. Ramphele.

      Luviwe - 2012-05-15 19:20

      I would like to see how they brand her.

  • CJ - 2012-05-15 18:40

    Well done, you made us proud!

  • ivan.oberholzer - 2012-05-15 18:41

    Indeed, Steve Biko would be very proud !

      Luviwe - 2012-05-15 19:22

      Real and honest freedom fighters. That man was on a league of his own. What a pitty that he is no longer around on such a tragic circumstances. That was one honest freedom fighter more thapn the Mandelas.

  • CliveK - 2012-05-15 18:41

    I have felt for several years now that this lady should be our President. The gulf between her and most of the ANC "leadership" is infinite.

      George - 2012-05-15 18:52

      When you are surrounded by midgets, a normal person seems like a giant. Just a caring South African. There is many more like her but choose to stay silent. Pity

      Innocent - 2012-05-15 19:20

      She has consistently taken a stance on matters of principle.

      Innocent - 2012-05-15 19:21

      She has consistently taken a stance on matters of principle.

      Luviwe - 2012-05-15 19:24

      @George. They are useless. Evil prevail when good men and women do nothing.

      Erna - 2012-05-16 10:28

      @George You forgot INTELLIGENT caring South African.

  • Stefaans - 2012-05-15 18:43

    Watch your back mamma, you're fussing with the wrong people. They hate when someone investigates to get to the truth, They hate the truth, and they will do anything to keep the truth to themselves.

      Innocent - 2012-05-15 19:21

      Fortunately she does not have political aspirations!

      Innocent - 2012-05-15 19:22

      Fortunately she does not have political aspirations!

  • prakash.singh.169 - 2012-05-15 18:46

    Congratulations and well done Dr Ramphele. Dr Ramphele for PRESIDENT of South Africa.

  • tshivhombelaf - 2012-05-15 18:47

    Can we get more S. Africans like you Dr Ramphele? Someone who can risk his/her career and businesses to stand for millions of powerless South Africans out there.

  • Sonja - 2012-05-15 18:48


  • glen.e.huysamer - 2012-05-15 18:49

    He should be jailed and fully investigated without bail, not legally challenged so that he can't serve in the police service. As much as I honor the attempts of the right honorable comrade Ramphele, in attempting to correct this wrong, the fact is that Mdluli and his family staff and cronies should be arrested forthwith, and a full investigation into this R200million rand conspiracy should be done. How many people are wrongly sitting in jail or have been adversely affected by these cheating, thieving crew of secret 'unintelligent' police of non-agents. Connected to everything from Celebi Corruption to drug trafficking girlfriends and wives. Gucci-handbagged girlfriend secret agents on high end shopping sprees to Dubai in private jets...... It is time the truth be told.

  • tshivhombelaf - 2012-05-15 18:51

    Can we get more S. Africans like you Dr Ramphele? Someone who can risk his/her career and businesses to stand for millions of powerless South Africans out there.

  • siyadyosiba - 2012-05-15 18:51

    Hehe another superwoman just like madonsela. u go girl but hey brace yourself its not gonna be smooth landing for you. these mafias are going to make sure you pay.

      Luviwe - 2012-05-15 19:31

      Siya Dr Mampele knew very well before she embarked on that project, If anything happens to her we will know and history will judge us and i hope it won't be soft and it must judge us harshly when we continue to support that kind of government.

  • Brad - 2012-05-15 18:52

    Viva Dr Ramphele & Team, you represent the hope that one day the struggle for equality for all people of South Africa will be realised. We support you and "FUL" to clean up the "CANCER" and GREED that steals from the people of our rainbow nation. We deperately need activitists of integrity that can take the fight to the corruptors!!

  • Wayne - 2012-05-15 18:56

    Wow! Huge respect for Dr Ramphele. We need more people of her quality to take up the challenge of improving our country and hopefully ridding it of the scourge of corruption and its proponents and benefactors.

  • rae.luckhoff - 2012-05-15 18:59

    You are saluted Dr Ramphele! One of the very few that know right from wrong! My fervent wish that both you and Moeletsi Mbeki lead our country forward!

  • rae.luckhoff - 2012-05-15 18:59

    You are saluted Dr Ramphele! One of the very few that know right from wrong! My fervent wish that both you and Moeletsi Mbeki lead our country forward!

  • Lacrimose - 2012-05-15 18:59

    Where are the people who are supposed to foster the culture, ensure accountability? How does it happen that in 18 years a century of culture and accountability vanishes? Whilst I laud Ms Ramphele's efforts, she's a lone voice whilst the culture of violence, corruption and worst of all fear, dominate. The Mdluli fiasco is yet another symptom. Not the cause

  • braamc - 2012-05-15 19:03

    The filth in this country, the cANCer

  • phahle1 - 2012-05-15 19:08

    Dts gr8!!Ramphele N THULI CN LEAD OUR CNTRY!!

      maseratifittipaldi - 2012-05-15 20:56

      I like ! Mamphele, Madonsela, Mazibuko. Mmmm...and Redi.

  • phahle1 - 2012-05-15 19:09

    Dts gr8!!Ramphele N THULI CN LEAD OUR CNTRY!!

  • Luviwe - 2012-05-15 19:09

    I wish we had more of these people to defend us. I had lost ope in the current bereed of the so calle leadership.

      Luviwe - 2012-05-15 19:26

      Sorry for my spelling touched by this women when there are more men and women who were not silenced by the apartheid system that was so brutal for the sake of a plum government post. What a pitty.

  • rlmbennett - 2012-05-15 19:12

    Dr. Ramphele you have got my 100% support. We need people like you and Ms. Madonsela. Power to you!

  • Bear - 2012-05-15 19:18

    This makes me SO HAPPY!

      Bear - 2012-05-15 19:19

      Perhaps this will put the ANC and its government under the international spotlight.

      sizwe.nyembe - 2012-05-15 19:35

      This is about Mdluli and not the ANC.

      sizwe.nyembe - 2012-05-15 20:47

      Luviwe, it doesn't matter because he is not the ANC but an individual serving under an ANC led government. Malema publicly pronounced that they would send a task team to Botswana to consolidate the oppositions to oust the current regime in that country. Considering Malema was still an ANC member when he made this pronouncement, does it mean it is the ANC that should be blamed for this assertment? ANC is not the individuals serving under the government that is led by it or its members, the ANC constitution and its set of principles and policies that governs its members is what makes the ANC. The ANC should never be blamed for individuals who trangresses beyond its constitution and set of principles.

      Bear - 2012-05-16 11:09

      Sizwe - That is all true but the fact remains that all of this happened whilst the ANC is supposed to be in control. Look at the ANC run eastern cape, the ANC can't control its own employees. Every single case of corruption, fraud etc. that takes place in the government is the ANC's fault.

      Patsy - 2012-05-16 20:12

      Bear, we haven't got anything they want - e.g. oil, so they won't care....unfortunately

  • Jerry - 2012-05-15 19:21

    Oh the good doctor is finally awake. We need you guys to save us from ANC Zuma dictatorship.

  • lerato.kay.3 - 2012-05-15 19:22

    I wonder who funds Freedom Under Law (FUL)

      adln.ntsielo - 2012-05-15 19:52

      Does it really matter? Or r we one of those who will do anything and everything in their power 2 ensure the truth doesn't come light?

      Anton Cloete - 2012-05-15 19:53

      Irrelevant who funds them, even if it is tax payers. Rather spend money to eradicate criminals than waste tax payers money later in court cases against those criminals, for example Selebi

      lerato.kay.3 - 2012-05-15 19:54

      Is my desire to know who funds it a crime or insult?

      Iceberg - 2012-05-15 19:57

      The words "FREEDOM" and "LAW" are strong indications that Government does not fund this and never will.

      lerato.kay.3 - 2012-05-15 20:18

      @kensong.ben.7 don't get me wrong I want Mdluli gone like 10 yrs ago, but with so much drama going on in the cops camp it would be interesting to know who is funding these independent organisations

      gert.dupreez - 2012-05-15 20:40

      These are very credible people associated, what with who funds them. Thank God someone is.

  • sizwe.nyembe - 2012-05-15 19:30

    Mdluli, you embarrased the black community by using the race card to save your a$s. Let's see now what are you going to say.

  • toofaan.monsoon - 2012-05-15 19:35

    My sincere respects M'aam !!!!

  • Konanani - 2012-05-15 19:45

    Gud job,we all knw the guy deserves a lyf in jail

  • bryan.billy2 - 2012-05-15 19:48

    almost end of the road for corruption, corrrupt constabliries nd traffic cops you are the next stream since ey almost done wt ur seniors,

  • Anton Cloete - 2012-05-15 19:50

    At long last! Somebody with enough guts to take on the corrupt ANC that protects and condones criminal police officers and even prepare him for the top job! How many more crooks are in line for police commissioner?

  • adln.ntsielo - 2012-05-15 19:56

    Finally,someone with REAL guts!!!

  • kabamba.chipulu - 2012-05-15 20:00

    lol how very righteous of her, if only she was as righteous while bearing steve biko's kids while he was still married, anyway her argument sound, Cele and Selebi were suspended on lesser charges

  • Jaco Botha - 2012-05-15 20:00

    If I was there I would have throw the first rock ... not to COSATO but to the DA ... I am a 42 year old hard working male, working 14 hours a day to keep head above water and to have a good life. I am not a politician and are not interested in their way of thinking and power games. As I understand the DA want's to replace me with a youngster, who were not in the military, who didn't walk 20 km a day to work! I am sorry, I never liked the DA and never will!!

      gert.dupreez - 2012-05-15 20:32

      Maybe someone should replace you because you are lost.

      Hudayfah - 2012-05-15 20:37

      Maybe that 20 km walk had a bigger effect than we thought. Ramphele and hellin looks worlds apart and you still got confused.

  • Gary - 2012-05-15 20:05

    Dr Ramphele, I will sleep easier tonight. Thank you. South Africans must decide that enough is enough. Mdluli and all those behind him, or in front of him, are a disgrace. A little while ago, the Chairman of Nedbank also made a stand. Time for the real SA role models to stand out and be found. also

  • rapitsi - 2012-05-15 20:08

    Putting your strength where is needed the most. Amanda! Our country is infested with these corrupt power hungry leaders. Lets get rid of them!

  • Keith - 2012-05-15 20:13

    Dr Ramphele for President PLEASE

  • Rocky - 2012-05-15 20:13

    Mamma Mamphela. I like you a lot .......... what breath of fresh air - high pressure to put the anc in their place. Your statement on the derilict state of the present day education system was yet another nail in the coffin of the anc. Keep the prsesure up - I lift my hat to your determination to address the cANCer in our society. Well done!

  • Keith - 2012-05-15 20:14

    Dr Ramphele for president PLEASE

  • Roger - 2012-05-15 20:20

    Dear Dr Ramphele I salute your courage, your fortitude and your sense of perspective as to what is important. Thank you. You represent the hope for ethical South African leadership. I also believe that your actions and those who support it, have created an opening for all South Africans in leadership positions, be it in business in education, in civil society-even in government-to stand up for what is right. Te salute! Nelson Mandela not only sacrificed greatly to give South Africa a great chance for the future