Request for special Mdluli hearing denied

2012-05-03 19:12

Johannesburg - A request to Parliament's police portfolio committee for a special hearing into the saga around police intelligence head Richard Mdluli was denied on Thursday.

Portfolio committee chairperson Sindy Chikunga told the SABC that her committee was not a court of law and so it could not do anything.

"Charges needed to be responded to in a court of law...the portfolio committee can't do anything," she said.

Democratic Alliance MP Dianne Kohler Barnard on Wednesday said the "debacle" around the appointment of Mdluli had be subjected to proper parliamentary scrutiny.

She said she was writing to Chikunga to request a special hearing.

Criminal charges relating to the murder in 1999 of Mdluli's ex-girlfriend's boyfriend Oupa Ramogibe were recently withdrawn against him, court orderly Samuel Dlomo, Colonel Nkosana Sebastian Ximba, and Lieutenant Colonel Mtunzi-Omhle Mthembeni Mtunzi.

An inquest is being held into Ramogibe's death.

The fraud and corruption charges, relating to improper use of crime intelligence money, were also dropped.

  • Matthew - 2012-05-03 19:21

    The shock! *faints in surprise*

      Oneant - 2012-05-03 20:29

      of course. because it seems being black is more important than being ethical for our politicians. gives the absolute legends i work with a bad name.

      Carlos - 2012-05-03 20:37

      So what do we do? Accept this cover up and allow JZ and his "Robbing Dudes" to continue in their merry way? Where's the decmocracy (sic) that JZ himself "fought" for?

      Malcolm - 2012-05-04 09:40

      This proves the Anc has lost their mandate to govern.

  • Jack - 2012-05-03 19:24

    Dang! Who would have thought.

  • Lacrimose - 2012-05-03 19:28

    Ah yes the "our hands our tied" excuse. Well, we shouldn't be surprised, hiding behind the "court of law" scenario is exactly how countless parliamentarians and cabinet ministers get paid leave, re-shuffled after serious allegations replete with evidence. "We can't do anything" seems to be their mantra. We know. We really do want you to do something. Go on try it, it's quite liberating.

      Sharon - 2012-05-03 20:01

      Pass the buck - where does it stop?

      Godfrey - 2012-05-03 20:11

      So what is the point of the parly committee??? To okay tarrif hicks for Eskom, hand-out funds to SABC, SAA, Transnet etc???? Oh...lets not forget how powerful they were on the INFO BILL.

  • Innocent - 2012-05-03 19:30

    Mr mdluli,is used by high politician to eradicate those intended to persue position at Mangaunge ellective conference.just imagine he spy anyone without a court order.all SA law agents are silent.Mr Mdluli is escalating a huge crime damages in our lovely country.

      Piet - 2012-05-03 20:41

      Stop voting for the ANC......

  • Peter - 2012-05-03 19:31

    Mdluli should be placed in the Museum of Modern Crime

  • Michele - 2012-05-03 19:32

    This bloke must have some serious leverage over Zuma and co that they are prepared to go to such lengths to protect the man

  • Romeo - 2012-05-03 19:33

    Why am i not surprised?

  • peter.t.solomon - 2012-05-03 19:37

    That was expected

  • braamc - 2012-05-03 19:38

    Filthy ANC piece of rubbish

  • Tumisang - 2012-05-03 19:50

    I have been saying the constitution should be amended to grant more power to politicians so they can make decisions, as it happens nowadays is that the government would make a decision only to be overturned by the courts, it would seem like the courts are the government, one of the founders of democracy Aristotle correctly points out that Even when laws have been written down, they ought not always to remain unaltered, the constitution should be amended to allow more power to the government away from the courts, they are suppose to be in power now they are powerless.

      Dave - 2012-05-03 19:54

      Are you completely nuts?

      jaco.duplessis2 - 2012-05-03 19:56

      Tumisang, did you respond to the article above?

      Gordon - 2012-05-03 19:56

      Apparently. The man thinks politicians are trustworthy... clearly fails to connect the case mentioned in this article. Struck dumb or dumbstruck?

      Jandl Reevo Reeves - 2012-05-03 20:00

      You are the 2nd thickest person on earth....your buddy zuma comes first.give more powers to the politicians !!!!!! it's the politicians that have turned our country into a free for all

      Tumisang - 2012-05-03 20:09

      In the absence of common sense, slander is the only weapon left,@Dave and Reeves@Jaco I was in fact responding to this particular article, Where the Minister correctly alluded to the fact that "Charges needed to be responded to in a court of law...the portfolio committee can't do anything" it is becoming clear that the courts are now even over passing their mandate in such a way that the portfolio comittee cannot hold a disciplinary hearing againts a public servant,even if they decide to expell Mdluli after the hearing the courts will throw out the case like they did....when Mbeki fired Zuma the courts overuled the decision, so againts the former NPA boss, they overule the government....

      Godfrey - 2012-05-03 20:18

      @Tumisang...Hope you feels the same when the DA runs the country.

      Jandl Reevo Reeves - 2012-05-03 20:21

      So you basically saying out one fire to start another somewhere else....because that's exactly what will happen.when the court make a decision to put away one of the ANC's corrupt back handers the politicians will over turn it because they all peddling together " FACT" .it is in fact what they actually's not called politics

      Jandl Reevo Reeves - 2012-05-03 20:24

      Sent to early finish off it's not called politics for nothing.....just like the release of inmates because of freedom day.can't release his bud Jackie selebi so he releases thousands to hide the one.....

      jaco.duplessis2 - 2012-05-03 20:24

      Tumisang, you don't have a clue of the different powers and functions of portfolio committees and the courts. How can it be the courts fault that a portfolio committee don't want to conduct a special hearing on the case???????

      Lacrimose - 2012-05-03 20:29

      They have the power to make decisions. They have countless advisors and specialists to guide them through potential legal issues. They have the power to do many things. They often choose not to, fobbing us off with "hands tied" but no meaningful explanation. They are hired to serve the people of South Africa and yet they fob us off at every turn with "not prepared to discuss it", "hands tied" etc. etc.

      Dave - 2012-05-03 20:29

      I think I was right after all. As Jaco said, please try and understand the differneces in the the various institutions at work here, and also the relevance the powers each has. thankk heavens for our courts, although your Mr Carl Marx might think differently

      logen.naidoo - 2012-05-03 21:20

      They had more than their chance to amend policies. RouGes will be there to stay as long as they benifit. Let the poor suffer And they don't give a damn.

      Ronald - 2012-05-03 22:15

      Tumisang, the courts act as a check and balance system for government with the Constitution as yardstick. With the NPA, that is a crucial part of this system, now in the pocket of the Zuma/Mdluli faction, one of these crucial check and balance steps has been removed. With Mdluli controlling the SAPS/NIA information system, the stage is set for Zuma to prepare his way to retain the presidency( the happenings culminating in the Watergate scandal in the USA is a good example). The very same scenario saved Zuma from being prosecuted, with the documents relating to the decision of the NPA not to prosecute being handed to the DA for scrutiny. I had personally handed over documentary proof as well as bank account details regarding illegal activities as well as info regarding PetroSA. This was all for nothing. So this really ticks me off when Mdluli/Zuma and their buddies openly orchestrate covering up their illegal activities and nothing is done because the masses have been so thoroughly duped and conditioned. And the irony is the people that will lose the most are the most avid supporters of the very same people NOW impoverishing them.

      Rob - 2012-05-03 23:21

      Tumisang: The judiciary is one of the three arms of GOVERNMENT, the other two being parliament and the executive. Consequently your statement does not make any sense because the judiciary IS the government. It would be extremely dangerous to dismantle the constitutional elements of the democracy and leave the executive and parliament without the checks and balances created by the judiciary, especially because SA does not have a second chamber such as the House Of Lords (UK). Absolute power always currupts, and we are already overwhelmed with that.

      Gert - 2012-05-04 07:30

      Dave--Zuma also said that some tin=me ago--these guys are really off the democratic rails

  • SA - 2012-05-03 19:51

    CRIME breeds CRIME

  • logen.naidoo - 2012-05-03 19:52

    Why does this not surprise me. Criminals run the country and more is going be let. Let the tax payers suffer and goverment get richer. I wonder who's giving these crime lessons. I also want to enrich myself.

  • elkita.robbertse - 2012-05-03 20:02

    We want to know that he is the next one to go tata ma chance tata ma devil

  • Manie - 2012-05-03 20:19


  • daniel.motlhatlhedi - 2012-05-03 20:23

    ANC needs to call him before its diciplinary committe.

  • georgebrightons - 2012-05-03 20:23

    The constitution should be amended to give politicians more power than the courts' Mdluli is the spy boss. The court has failed to prove him wrong.What is Glynis Breytenbach trying to do? Is she abusing her powers as head of Special commercial crimes of the NPA? Why is she not taking instructions from her bosses? Simple because they are blacks and she is pursuing racist agenda of certain groups opposed to the ruling party.

      Derek Gerber - 2012-05-03 20:38

      George you are obviously not so brightons, he has not been to court, this is exactly the problem, by the way do you even understand what the purpose if the parliament is? If he is so innocent, let us please see what the dockets contain! If you are known by your friends, he certainly has some interesting ones.

      Piet - 2012-05-03 20:43

      that is called a dictatorship....

      Lacrimose - 2012-05-03 20:51

      He hasn't been to court yet. The govt, despite much proof, has until now refused to lay any charges. His alleged crimes are against the State - the people of South Africa. The State therefore has to lay the charges. They won't. Why?

  • George - 2012-05-03 20:25

    Parliament holds Executive accountable on behalf of the People. Its a novel idea in SA, I know. So take it nice and slow. It won't hurt, I promise!

  • logen.naidoo - 2012-05-03 20:25

    Wonder what the crime Intellingence dept is hiding. Must be sacred if they don't want to release the reports. Covering for scumbags I say.

  • brainbowgold - 2012-05-03 20:33

    See you in court!

  • Aubrey - 2012-05-03 21:30

    I wish GOD kills all those things called COMRADES,this are the people who are claiming to be our leaders, while on the other hand there are misleading ,steeling,killing and dividing the whole Nation, i believe GOD will kill them one by one untill South Africa become a better place.

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