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Rogues sabotaging ANC - Netshitenzhe

2012-10-23 11:00

Johannesburg - Rogue ANC members and those who use the ANC for business gains are sabotaging its attempts to attract skilled leaders, said Joel Netshitenzhe, Business Day reported on Tuesday.

The African National Congress' national executive member reportedly told the paper on Tuesday that attention should also be paid to the party's membership profile.

Netshitenzhe, speaking during a lecture in honour of ANC stalwart OR Tambo at the weekend, warned that weak senior leaders and their poor quality following would erode the party's credibility.

Netshitenzhe said the ANC should consider if it was "sufficient that leaders of the movement should narrowly be professional politicians, with no other link with communities than being leaders of the ANC and with no other skills than political activism".

ANC spokesperson Jackson Mthembu reportedly told the newspaper that Netshitenzhe's "constructive criticism" was in line with continuing debates in the party about attracting high calibre leaders with experience in serving in other community organisations.

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  • sparks.sephakgamele - 2012-10-23 11:10

    Please give us more news 24, you can do better

      godfrey.welman - 2012-10-23 11:33

      Most LEADERSHIP positions require some form of higher education, execpt the ANC leadership, being in the struggle (Zuma)is saficient for them. What criteria will they use for Membership profile" tipical ANC make statements with out details.

      rupesh.hari.7 - 2012-10-23 11:42

      Andre - it started way before Zuma. Zuma is just the prime example now. They get angry with the economist for not adding anything to the debate and for telling them what they know already. Despite "knowing corruption exists", they keep doing it again and again, starting from the top. I hope more articles nail them.

      jason.heineberg - 2012-10-23 11:50

      What he's trying to say is "the people leading our country are uneducated and thus unfit to lead"

      deon.louw.7505 - 2012-10-23 11:54

      I agree, the leaders of the past most had university training or at least Grade 12. Some of todays leaders battle to read and write.

      fred.murgatroyd - 2012-10-23 12:10

      Rogues led by the example of their president

      sabelo.mcondobi - 2012-10-23 12:26

      Don't think so...news24 should cease allowing cowards who disguise like guyfox to insult anc.

      werner.dippenaar.77 - 2012-10-23 12:38

      Always blaming others, like a bunch of toddlers

      veshane.singh - 2012-10-24 08:20

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  • kobus.erasmus - 2012-10-23 11:13

    The cANCer party's wheels are falling off...

      hermann.hanekom - 2012-10-23 12:20

      It has been long time that the African National Corruption had the choice to be a so called liberation struggle party or a political governance party. In 18 years they have almost succeeded in making South Africa ungovernable - this was their struggle motto and now we are eating it with them due to them.

      ann.murray.9279 - 2012-10-23 13:12

      The sooner the better in my humble opinion! Many of them are just a bunch of thieves who do not know anything about honour.

      liveby.thesword.1 - 2012-10-23 13:52

      yes kobus......greed has set in......now they're just like crabs in a pot....fighting amongst themselves....

      esrom.sandy - 2012-10-23 16:06

      Wrong kobus u wish it wil never happen,u wish bKcause u knwow u will never succed when ANC still alive remember what Msholozi said abt beeing in power til 0ur lord Christ come back

      sham.singh.5661 - 2012-10-23 20:38

      @ann.murray - That's only because it's being allowed by the top brass - Zuma - as we all knew(P.S. - I meant us educated ones anyway)- was already thief!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • sagin.verity - 2012-10-23 11:13

    Please the anc is sabotaging the anc and south africa. Blame everyone and never accept personal responsibility, this seems to be the motto of black government

      kuno.tschumi.5 - 2012-10-23 11:22

      its not the motto of black government, but the motto of the ANC government. As long as we have the top brass being corrupt and abuse their power we will have a problem.

      rupesh.hari.7 - 2012-10-23 11:44

      Kuno - ignore those racists. Unfortunately, our fight against corruption gets a set back because of these racists. They didn't fight the pre-apartheid government but call the current corrupt government a black government. They say they are not racist but corruption equals black for them.

      jeremy.thewasp - 2012-10-23 11:47

      How can you even put the 'words' ANC and Credibility together...must be some kind of joke surely? The ANC are about to implode, voters have been lied to and starting to see that they have been conned big time.... A - Anarchy N - Nepotism C - Corruption And the there you have it!

      rodney.bevan.58 - 2012-10-23 11:53

      @ Rupeshari, I presume you believe your comment is not in itself racist? Sagins choice of words may leave a little to be desired, however, if you take into account, the only black government SA has had is the ANC, the comment holds true does it not?

      thomas.paine.946517 - 2012-10-23 12:03

      No Rodney, it does not hold logically true. If the ANC are black (which they largely are) and the ANC are corrupt it is not logically correct to assume that all blacks are corrupt. Maybe he should have said "this" black government but really, what was he trying to imply by using the word black at all? Simply say the ANC are corrupt and leave it at that.

  • Jacques - 2012-10-23 11:13

    It's difficult to have much credibility when you're in the ANC- their very leader is an embarrassment (politically and personally) and they are openly turning to Apartheid-style ruling, with a pinch of 'Mugabenistic' Brttain-rethoric. Not surprised at the lack of quality leaders.

      rupesh.hari.7 - 2012-10-23 11:44

      zero credibility whatsoever.

  • Carlton - 2012-10-23 11:17

    Yawn

      Desilusionada - 2012-10-23 11:36

      Cape Town Sunny. Mild. Tuesday 15-23°C Sunny. Mild. ~Stretch/Yawn~

      art5SA - 2012-10-23 22:24

      "FARTS".... hmmmmmmmmmmmm!

  • majwarha.balakisi - 2012-10-23 11:25

    The reason other African countries are constantly at war is because they don't have the ANC. We need the ANC to build this Continent. The ANC is the only organization that don't elect its leaders on Tribal or ethnically terms.

      rob.gunning.1 - 2012-10-23 12:10

      So they're the best ey?

      majwarha.balakisi - 2012-10-23 12:19

      @Rob more than 60 percent of south africans from all tribal and ethnic groups still votes ANC.

      Jacob Zuma - 2012-10-23 13:17

      Wow. Now you should by minister of education! You are so smat!

      kenny.kwenamore - 2012-10-23 15:48

      It is expected that there will always be people like you with twisted mind and vision The ANC has failed to score goals on a kindergatten playing field how on earth do you expect them to do better at FNB

  • sifiso.sosibo.10 - 2012-10-23 11:28

    The grave truth's that its too late to sanitise and rehabilite ANC members cause they've all got sticky fingers and have tasted honey!

  • thando.ramncwana - 2012-10-23 11:28

    Media advancing its agenda for Mangaung!

      Willie - 2012-10-23 12:20

      Media is voteless troll

  • xololwabantu.madikizela - 2012-10-23 11:28

    true!

  • Sun Warrior - 2012-10-23 11:33

    The man is correct. Give him credit for speaking out.

      Willie - 2012-10-23 12:23

      Spot on the man needs to be elected as SG of the ANC,Mantshe out to pension.Joel please clean this mess A= accumulation N= nepotism C= cronyism

  • vuyani.zondi - 2012-10-23 11:33

    I don,t understand these zuma supporters can be blindly loyal to a political bankrapcy leader that has fail to unifiy the organizatio in his 1st term if what he has to offer now? \r\nZuma has caused enaugh damege to the organization we cannot afford another term with zuma.

  • tshepo.malia - 2012-10-23 11:34

    It has become a norm,that every politician will enrich him/herself before serving people.

      rob.gunning.1 - 2012-10-23 12:11

      It has also become the norm to continue voting for a corrupt organisation who couldn't give a toss about the general population.

      DuToitCoetzee - 2012-10-23 13:20

      Unfortunately this is the truth. When we look at other fellow Africa states. The norm was or sometimes still gets practice for so long. The 1st term they enrich themselves. The 1st part of the second term they start working for the people and the 2nd part of their last term they do all in power to cover up their ill doings and try to push a certain candidate forward that can be his "out of jail card" for when he is not in power anymore. Some countries in Africa got it partly right to stop this and they are now the ones progressing.(well progressing if one look at the position they were in before stopping the old "habits")

  • george.slade.161 - 2012-10-23 11:35

    You had better Import some "African Americans " as there is Nothing in the REVOLTING Revolutionaries spewed out by the ANC.

  • tommy.jones.754918 - 2012-10-23 11:36

    "those who use the ANC for business gains" ...sounds like you are admitting it - so, what are you going to do about it.

  • tony.naidoo - 2012-10-23 11:37

    No Joel. Thieves have a code of honour! It is the cANCer which is corrupting them!

  • tgif.wtfaw - 2012-10-23 11:37

    The ANC Fat neck is part of their evolution , they have grown that so that the neck does not break when they snap awake in Parliament !!!

  • long.tom.509 - 2012-10-23 11:38

    The rot starts at the top !should they not look at themselves first(the executive)is this not the driving seat of the organisation?

  • gary.desousa.7 - 2012-10-23 11:38

    If you look at some democratic parties they attract leaders from all fields because the ideals and wishes of those leaders and the party are in tune with each other. How does the ANC ever think they will attract a broad base of knowledgable buisness leaders to their party as long as buisness is seen to be the enemy all the time.

  • harald.voney - 2012-10-23 11:42

    Like Zuuuuummmmaaaa??? and friends...

  • sello.r.molefe - 2012-10-23 11:43

    Start with ur leader who c using tax payers money as his piggy bank.. Am sure there competent leaders within ur organisation who will save us from this state of quagmire

      DuToitCoetzee - 2012-10-23 13:34

      Sello the ANC is so big that it actually has its own "parties/power groups" inside it. They get so busy with infighting that the forget about us. It also cause a brain drain because all the more intelligent leaders sit on his/her own heap and only fighting off the others's attacks. They must be reduce in size. Streamlined and the others be part of smaller parties or their own to force the leading party to be more service driven to maintain top dog. In the same breath the unions must become unions again and they must stop functioning under one umbrella, but purely the division they represent. When having such a big covering body their aim change and they just become involve in politics and separated from their main purpose. The simple word for it all is POWER. When such a big party the amount of people that push to went through the "funnel" are so many that you lost a lot of good one(intelligent and respectable) in the process.

      esrom.sandy - 2012-10-23 13:58

      U sound as a person who got citizenship of dis country not born here,where u 4rom lesotho we r doing things wit our way

      DuToitCoetzee - 2012-10-23 14:21

      sandy you talking to me or sello? If me, I was born in this country and love it!

  • steve.ritchie.739 - 2012-10-23 11:43

    The cANCer has evolved from terrorism to a rogue movement. This man is right. No quality leadership.

  • vuyani.zondi - 2012-10-23 11:50

    There poeple who support zuma for 2nd term are those comrades who survive on corrupt activities through zuma,s connecrtion, some are scared to lose their position they are power hungrey, they going to our branches misleading our memebrs using their dirty money buying votes of votes.

      thando.ramncwana - 2012-10-23 11:57

      I for one am a dedicated member of this organisation who isnt buying any votes or influence and support the current leadership for untiy and co-hesion. Cde Kgalema wont save the ANC, the branches od the ANC will save the ANC.

      vuyani.zondi - 2012-10-23 12:23

      Thando who are trying to convince under this leadrship under zuma there will be no unity this current leadership lead by zuma has fail to unite anc members during his 1st term bcoz if you can be honest with your self anc is divided than ever before now where do you think this unity will come from.

      esrom.sandy - 2012-10-23 13:52

      U seem so desparate vuyani iam de one didn't benefit 2 any corruption if u r a man enough nondaba u better face de thrut Msholozi is still rocking,my advice 2 u if u want 2 defeat him stop going 2 each and every corner critises him just like ur broe juju u r giving a man mo power VIVA MHLANGANYELWA

  • andremandela.julias - 2012-10-23 11:50

    cANCer is confirmed.Shame, they struggled so hard ,so long RIP

  • phil.nzimande - 2012-10-23 11:51

    Cde. Joel has always been the kind of leader the our movement need, honest, committed and knowledgeable about ANC policies and strategic goal. Whenever he say or write something, it is always for the good of the movement.

      tommy.jones.754918 - 2012-10-23 12:05

      Comrade is soooo last season.

      Kwazi Khumalo - 2012-10-23 12:10

      i agree with you Phil,we need leaders like him in our movement

      esrom.sandy - 2012-10-23 14:40

      Phil if ur mind is empty u realy need people like joel 2 feed u wit filthy useless ideas,what is he up 2 is dis juju jet,I believe Msholozi wil stop all dis kind of operation come mangaung

  • pierre.dupreez.58 - 2012-10-23 11:57

    Dear Joel, you are soooooooo funny!!!!!I think it was Verwoerd who sent you the bloody ROGUE AGENTS? cANT SAY ANYMORE NOW, REALLY THE LAUGHING IS HURTING ME!!

  • Frank Hublot Einstein - 2012-10-23 11:59

    Yep, that will be a good thing. Politics is not an occupation or a job, you should have a job aside from being a politician. like barack obama is a lawyer. i dont know zuma's job and i dont know malema's job; that why the two of them are so bad for south Africa; but malema worse so than zuma because the illiterate contributions and influence of zuma in south Africa will end in maybe 5-6yrs time, but the illiterate influence of malema will continue for like another 30 years. mind you, man might be living in the moon then and south Africa will have an illiterate president

      Siphiwe Zondi - 2012-10-23 12:28

      Frank President Zuma can read and write why u call him illiterate. We r not in America

  • heinrich.spreeth - 2012-10-23 12:02

    It's THE TOKOLOSHE he's DOING IT!!!

  • Kwazi Khumalo - 2012-10-23 12:06

    is ANC more corrupt than National Party(they killed black for fighting for their right,discriminated against black,oppressing black) or is the ANC more corrupt than the Americans(they killed innocent people in Iraq for oil), white devils are more corrupt in this world,

      Gerald Jordaan - 2012-10-23 12:15

      Kwazi you fool you..the ANC killed innocent people by planting bombs in Wimpy Bars Once a peckerhead always a peckerhead !!

      DuToitCoetzee - 2012-10-23 14:04

      Thank you Kwazi and khathutshelo.muafrica to try to make me negative. It did not work. I will try to do my best for SA and you can or continue your attitude or join me. Regards, "White Devil, worst creature, white scum, etc." or a fellow South African that love this country, continent and people with every bone in his body.

  • vuyani.zondi - 2012-10-23 12:08

    Zuma supporters are aware that if zuma is defeted in mangaung they be will out in the cold, the will be no more gravy train no 1.2m german cars, overseas trips, building securty walls (mthethwa),builing city in a village and etc.. That is why the do every thing posible to hold on to power.

      esrom.sandy - 2012-10-23 14:06

      Uyaphupha nondaba udlala ipolitiki eshibhile wena lalela izigi musa ukuba novalo njengenina

      sibusiso.mhlongo.35 - 2012-10-23 17:26

      eish I wish I could see u esrom and shake ur hand broer, unondaba lona uyiNkatha he must just focus on their fight with NFP. leave Zuma alone, like it or not he still has 5 more years to run the country.

  • lucky.lehlaka - 2012-10-23 12:15

    Kwaaaaaaaaaa,,,,kwaaaaaaaaaa...eish.mangaung.

  • ruben.maistry - 2012-10-23 12:20

    Thank you for admitting that the anc does not have the expertise to run our country, infact that was one of Madiba's major concerns when the anc came into power.18 years is a long time to figure this but nevertheless at least one person in your organisation does, I hope more start to.

      khathutshelo.muafrica - 2012-10-23 12:30

      Neither is DA

      wesley.bischoff - 2012-10-23 12:50

      ANC = liberation party DA = political party

  • khathutshelo.muafrica - 2012-10-23 12:20

    I dont think dat will end in the near future..anc is going down

  • stephen.j.dickson.3 - 2012-10-23 12:38

    All ANC members,cadre's and politicians from now on are simply to be called Levers.Why??? Because they are such simple tools.......bottom line.

  • gerrit.vanpletzen - 2012-10-23 12:44

    Rogues are running the ANC!

  • Andrea - 2012-10-23 12:48

    What is this now? The dumberer advising the dumberest?

  • TdJ01 - 2012-10-23 13:21

    What WILL they blame next for their gross incompetence - a secret fifth column??????????????

  • Brownbear - 2012-10-23 13:31

    but they all are rouges .Rouges stealing from rouges how quaint!

  • Bruce - 2012-10-23 13:54

    DA = Political Party...ANC = Governing Party_and that's how things will be for a long time to come.

  • kenny.kwenamore - 2012-10-23 15:27

    Please please please I implore you look no further than Zuma - How this extra terrestrial version of the human race became president is beyond my comprehension. The man is in it to enrich himself not to serve. The ANC must shut their mouth they put him there now they are gharvesting a Tsunami

  • pmogala - 2012-10-24 10:48

    Do clean and honest people still exist in the ANC, all we hear, see and read about is negative reports about the ruling party.

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