SA recognises NTC as Libyan government

2011-09-20 20:08

Johannesburg -  The government on Tuesday joined the West, regional rival Nigeria and the African Union in recognising the National Transitional Council (NTC) as Libya's de facto government.

"The South African government hereby announces that it recognises the NTC as the representative of the Libyan people as they form an all-inclusive transitional government that will occupy the Libyan seat at the African Union," the international relations and co-operation department said in a statement.

  • albino - 2011-09-20 20:15

    and it was about time as well? But what is the reason for zuma's u-turn?

      Stephan Janse van Vuuren - 2011-09-20 21:03

      He realized the they are not in the least interested to be part of AU and therefore he has no influence. So might as well crawl back due to their oil.

      Wonderboy - 2011-09-20 21:04

      What happened about the fact that they are waiting to see if good governance will be practiced?

      Sizwe - 2011-09-20 21:07

      @CoConut. As history has it the whole white SA population was fooled by an immigrant (Verwoerd) who convinced them that blacks were not being treated differently, and that apartheid was good neighbourliness. Given that history I will pass on the whites for now...

      Yoni - 2011-09-20 21:37

      @Sizwe: I think Comrade Jakes' U-turn has more to do with what the Yanks TOLD him to say whilst he was visiting there. Now that you talk about history, did you know they were already using sailing ships with masts in Europe about 700 BC? And the abacus was around at least 2600 BC, apparently in China. India has the Taj Mahal, South America the Macchu Pichu, China the Great Wall, and so the list goes on. What does history tell about Africa? Except that even the name was not conjured by Africans?

      gerrymander - 2011-09-21 01:48

      @Yoni. Not so fast with your Eurocentrism. Its well known that the Egyptians had vast scientific knowledge especially mathematics, and particularly geometry. Furthermore, if you travel through Europe, or live there for any period of time, like I have done, and you take into account the emergence to economic power of any one of these countries, its mostly been through the exploitation of foreign resources. Agreed the development of ships, for example, enabled the Portugese and Vasco Da Gama to open up the spice route to India, but this is where the vast wealth came from. Further on in history, Brazil represented more riches for Portugal. Its got a lot to do with geo-politics and today the question of Libya has to do with this too. Who knows what strings are being pulled behind the scenes to position a country to benefit from another country's resources. Developing a massive arms industry for example (might is greater than right it seems) goes a long way to influence (!!!) outcomes. Umm, did the AU bomb Tripoli? This all aside, it would be great in South Africa, in all these forums, if we could put this petty racial blame gaming aside, and somehow realise we need to put up a united front as South Africans if we are to both be strong internationally and not implode along our racial fault lines - which can easily be exploited by foreigners. But sure, ingenuity is a must for any self-respecting nation.

      Yoni - 2011-09-21 07:41

      @gerrymander: Ha-ha! I deliberately left our the pyramids, and you took the bait. Do you think the Egyptians were Africans in terms of modern day South African criteria? Think again. Likewise, how about the people of Carthage, and their leader Hannibal? You tried to intervene but you cannot answer the question I posed...

      gerrymander - 2011-09-21 17:13

      @Yoni. It was you who was fishing in the waters of history for your argument, now you want to separate "Africans in terms of modern day South African criteria" from their forebears, but ask that we don't do the same for Europeans. You can't have it one way and not the other. It wasn't bait at all but a jolly good meal.

      Yoni - 2011-09-21 18:46

      @gerrymander: Your name suits you perfectly, you also seem to do a lot of gerrymandering when negotiating your way around facts. "Umm, did the AU bomb Tripoli?" Who cares about the AU's role in Libya? It's a non-entity, and let's look at its leader. This is from an article published in The Independent in 2007: "It is hard to think of many African despots who make Robert Mugabe seem stable and benign, but Teodoro Obiang Nguema is one who does. For Simon Mann, the Old Etonian mercenary who seems about to pass from the custody of the former into the hands of the latter, it is a less than comforting thought. Whatever his other faults, Zimbabwe's leader - to take one example - has never been accused of cannibalism. But if Obiang's opponents are to be believed, the dictator of Equatorial Guinea likes nothing more than to eat the testicles of those who have crossed him. Since Mann is accused of plotting to overthrow Obiang to get his hands on the tiny state's massive oil wealth, he could be excused for having sleepless nights."

      Yoni - 2011-09-21 18:54

      Oil earnings are now $3bn a year - enough to give the country the second highest income per head in the world. But anyone who has seen the rotting capital, Malabo, knows that the money ends up in the hands of one family. In contrast to the damp-stained buildings outside, glittering chandeliers light up Obiang's palace. When he wants to travel, the president has a choice of six personal planes, the most recent of which has a king-size bed and a bathroom with gold-plated taps. Destinations include the mansion in Maryland or the holiday home in Cape Town. Meanwhile his son, Teodorin, has managed to build an impressive fleet of Lamborghinis, Ferraris and Bentleys, despite claiming to earn an official salary of only £30,000 a year. Many are in Paris, where he lives in a luxury hotel. And if Paris or Cape Town become too dull, Little Teodoro, as some in Equatorial Guinea call him (although possibly not to his face), can always retire to his $35m Malibu mansion, where his neighbours include Britney Spears and Mel Gibson." Go and read the full article, you'll also learn of rental scams (now that sounds familiar doesn't it!) and all sorts of other similarities. Don't despair though, this old guy is soon to be replaced, I believe, by our own Nkosazana Dlamini-Zuma. Just who the AU needed, ahhhh.

  • raspatin - 2011-09-20 20:21

    agg-man !and what are they saying about Gaddie now ? African leaders all stoogies !!!

      Warslat - 2011-09-20 21:13

      The really interesting bit was their wording..."as they form an ALL-INCLUSIVE transitional government" This gives them the option to opt out of recognising the interim government if it doesn't include Gadaffi...(of course that's if it's convenient to do so)

  • Deset Rat - 2011-09-20 20:24

    The NTC is not a government, its like recognizing the Mafia as the legitimate rulers of Sicily!

      Fakmore - 2011-09-20 20:31

      Its like saying Tsvangson is educated....well he is...he dropped out at Grade 9

  • Vernon - 2011-09-20 20:25

    Eish can NEVER understand this government.The rest of the world sees that Gadaffi is doomed but we wait.

      Fakmore - 2011-09-20 20:31

      So Vernon..tell us..Who is the President of Libya since these things are so obvious????

      Vernon - 2011-09-20 21:06

      errr..sorry my mistake.It is still Gadaffi..sorry.

      Vernon - 2011-09-20 21:15

      hiding somewhere in Houghton

  • - 2011-09-20 20:26

    Poor old Jacob. He ducks to the USA with his concubines for a few days and while he is gone his adversaries in the ANC pull the media bill and recognize the new Libyian gov. Gone is the legislation he was hoping would whitewash his involvement in the arms deal and gone is his commissions thatGadaffi was paying him. Not a good week for showerhead.

      Fakmore - 2011-09-20 20:33

      Proof positive ANC is divided and Zille will be elected next President of White South Africa...with Tricia De Lille as Vice...Oh happy days are here again.

      Sizwe - 2011-09-20 21:08

      @Fakmore. And who will be the President of Black South Africa...?

  • Fakmore - 2011-09-20 20:29

    DE FACTO Govt..yes...LEGITIMATE GOVERNMENT...Never!!!!!!!!!

  • King - 2011-09-20 20:37

    I wonder what is going on with JZ adviser's! JZ is busy selling Africa to the Western

      phathuchicos - 2011-09-20 21:14

      actually JZ has more wives than any living man on earth, which means he get many different views about deplomatic issues than any president in the world.

  • Mamaile - 2011-09-20 20:37

    tnx @ last u took the ppl of Libya crious by reconising what they think will take them 4wad. how many weapons of mass destruction have you sold to them nd why????

  • Jack - 2011-09-20 20:45

    Well done, eventually!

  • sefeddt - 2011-09-20 21:01

    Of course Zuma will, he is scheduled to attend the UN in America and so will change his tune. When he returns he will again change and slam the West.

      phathuchicos - 2011-09-20 21:17 when he goes to china for BRICS he changes to anti-western. lmao...i really don't wanna be in his shoes ryt now.

      Vernon - 2011-09-20 21:21

      he is always in two minds

  • phathuchicos - 2011-09-20 21:04

    oh no here we go again...A and C government being the last to join the party. Why can't SA accept the fact that we cannot challenge western powers who are the reason that we are alive today. We are not that powerful like russia and china to challenge Americans and Nato on what they desire.

      drenkeling - 2011-09-21 00:37

      You don't make sense

  • the - 2011-09-20 21:08

    why the long wait, were they backing gaddafi to make a comeback. We should also start our own revolution here in S.A, what you think

  • fraidycat - 2011-09-20 21:18

    Duh...what Zuma, is bad publicity for SA better than no publicity at all???

  • mabsie - 2011-09-21 01:01

    Great news this!

  • khoi007 - 2011-09-21 15:15


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