SABC warned of licence-payer revolt

2013-03-12 22:33

Johannesburg - The SABC needs a board and management to dedicate themselves exclusively to rebuilding the organisation, the IFP said on Tuesday.

"If not, the SABC will move beyond redemption and South Africans will no longer believe that it is still 'the right thing to do' to pay for TV licences," Inkatha Freedom Party MP Liezl van der Merwe said in a statement.

"This requires dramatic, fast-moving and bold leadership on the part of [Communications] Minister Dina Pule."

President Jacob Zuma received a joint letter of resignation from SABC board chairperson Ben Ngubane and his deputy Thami ka Plaatjie on Monday. The president was still considering on Tuesday whether to accept it.

Van Der Merwe said the IFP believed the move was in the broadcaster's best interests.

"We hope that the remainder of the board will stay and recommit their resolve toward building a strong, stable SABC.

"South Africans deserve a stable SABC they can be proud of. Not an SABC that is routinely labelled a national embarrassment, and a sinking ship stranded in a sea of incompetence."

Ngubane and Plaatjie resigned after weeks of renewed tension at the public broadcaster, after Ngubane and the board fell out over the future of acting COO Hlaudi Motsoeneng.

On 26 February the broadcaster announced Motsoeneng had been "released from his duties". It said that Mike Siluma, a veteran journalist and head of radio news and current affairs, had been appointed to the acting position.

Shortly after that, Ngubane was quoted in a newspaper report as saying Motsoeneng had been reinstated. He said Ka Plaatjie had made this decision.

This prompted the board to issue a media statement according to which "the report... is regrettable as neither the chairman nor the deputy chairman nor both have the power or authority to unilaterally change a board resolution".

The board said it would seek clarity from Ngubane and Ka Plaatjie regarding the newspaper report.

Since then, Pule asked Parliament to "urgently" review the board's fitness.

  • nu_un_clear - 2013-03-12 22:40

    I honestly can't remember when last I've watched anything on SABC, so, yes, it's not the right thing for me to do to pay for something I don't use.

      Rustic - 2013-03-12 22:53

      I just watch the SABC news at 7.00 pm - to see what the enemy is up to.

      Jack - 2013-03-12 23:13

      What is a TV license?

      RabbleRouser - 2013-03-12 23:40

      I agree. I never watch SABC TV. It certainly is not the right thing to do.

      jesibelle.krugger - 2013-03-12 23:53

      @Rustic, Thanks for the entertainment (hint, hint) - it makes suffering the feckless just a touch easier... BTW - you can "watch" what the enemy is doing by reading the Wall Street Journal and The Economist - at least you will get a glimpse of the truth and not just the huba huba rhetoric of primitive fairy tales. In fact - I say, take the government to court and force them to close the SABC in its entirety, it serves absolutely no purpose other than a grand waste of taxpayers' money. Then the government must be forced to close SAA - it serves even less of a purpose (apart from transporting drugs from South America). There are enough private radio stations, TV stations and airlines, you would not even miss them. There is NO justification to increase taxes and/or to implement e-toll - simply close the abovementioned two entities.

      Amdyn - 2013-03-13 06:28

      They should scrap the license fee. SABC should be self funding.

      Connie Caknie - 2013-03-13 07:04

      I haven't been paying my licence for about three years now as I do not watch that third world garbage!

      TC - 2013-03-13 07:30

      Paying a TV License is like being forced by the ANC to buy their New Age newspaper every day; finance their their ANC propoganda machines; support their Gupta buddies.

      Gary5 - 2013-03-13 07:59

      @rustic The enemy?? you mean the news about the gov and cronies?

      Kawasaki1985 - 2013-03-13 10:18

      I paid mine - "It was the wrong thing to do" - I am so sorry !!!

      Rustic - 2013-03-13 11:23

      @Jess. Thank you. I am Seldom good at entertainment, so I guess I have to thank SABC for giving you a laugh.

      Rustic - 2013-03-13 12:29

      Gary. The "enemy" is an amorphous thing - propaganda dressed up as truth.

      Tums Down - 2013-03-13 14:10

      All 2 license payers are going to revolt... We all know that the rest are "roofkykers"

      Eterni80 - 2013-03-13 14:42

      JZ is also considering changing the name of the national broadcaster to SANCBC the ANC has the opposite of the midas touch

      Marc57 - 2013-03-13 15:01

      Leonard Bloch - I fully agree. The standard of English is atrocious on SABC and SATV - we don't go round murdering isiZulu on Radio Lesedi. The annexing of the various English services is the SA version of 'knocking over the radio station' in old 70's cout d'etat parlance. This apart from using the stations as propaganda machines for the ruling junta. How many times do we have listen to yet another nauseating 9000-part story about he wonderful days of Sophiatown on SAfm? Just on SAfm this morining was a semi-literate Caucasian female talking about the 'chair' of come board (no doubt the disintegrating SABC board) Again. Such drivel and pseudo-correct drivel at that.

      Marc57 - 2013-03-13 15:08

      Very good idea Alicialouise!! Except, don't for a minute think that a bank account is a safe place!!! Wow. It's a parking place with 360° windows that every known government agency can look through at any time, and should the idea grab them, then can and will help themselves.

  • Gideon Joubert - 2013-03-12 22:48

    No longer prepared to pay for a disorganised, corrupt and anc propaganda mouth piece, so no, i will not be renewing my license

      Gerasimos Komnenus - 2013-03-13 10:37

      I agree Gideon. I also think the next "revolt" will be the e tolls, then rates and taxes and then taxes. Tyrannical regimes do not desrve to be supported.

      PB - 2013-03-13 13:08

      Maybe the gooberment can recoup all the golden handshakes paid to useless SABC board members by getting the tv licence fees from just one of the squatter camps. There are at least one tv antenna for every 2 shanties. Methinks the licence inspectors would never venture into those areas to do their jobs....

      Hein Huyser - 2013-03-14 02:02

      Like the toll-tagg, it's the right thing NOT to get it

  • Sthembiso Jali - 2013-03-12 22:49

    who still pays a tv licence ?

      Erna Westdyk - 2013-03-12 23:07

      They haunt you even when you have died!

      kenneth.fisher.750 - 2013-03-12 23:19

      I have a friend who emigrated and had endless hassles with them after the license was already cancelled. Once they agreed then SABC sent about 20 emails confirming it.

      Sthembiso Jali - 2013-03-12 23:22

      the chinese dudes don't need any if buy a tv from them, neither your persol details. so im kind of relaxed.

      Jane - 2013-03-13 09:26

      I haven't renewed mine. Why should I pay to watch McGyver and CHIPS and the damn Cosby show, I hated it when I was 10 and I still hate it now? Absolute rubbish on SABC. Way too much SA crap and reruns of more crap.

      zmasemola1 - 2013-03-16 20:18

      The Guptas.

  • Thabang Moloi - 2013-03-12 23:02

    Paying tv licence is not the right thing to do!!tl!!tl!!Affirmative action...(Lmao) "Titanic is sinking"

      Abdul-Ba'ith Bashir Sayegh - 2013-03-12 23:18

      Signal testing...

  • kenneth.fisher.750 - 2013-03-12 23:20

    DSTV is next. Playing OLD movies and repeating everything yet you pay through your behind.

      Rustic - 2013-03-12 23:24

      Predators of a special breed.

      gift.rode - 2013-03-13 01:13

      We don't really have choice with DSTv since their competitor is worse than SABC and doesn't have sports

      Bonolo Moswane - 2013-03-13 01:14

      M Net has not shown 1 decent Sunday premium movie in 5 weeks too.

  • Had Enuf - 2013-03-12 23:23

    Somebody please tell me how I can STOP paying for my SABC TV licence. If you do not pay, they hand you over to a collection agency. I want to tell them to f-off and never pay again because I cannot look at their rubbish, but once you are in their system, they have you by the proverbials. Maybe if I decline to get a set-top decoder when they eventually roll out digital SABC then I can decline to get one and then no longer be liable ? I know their crap is also available through DSTV, but maybe that will change with the advent of digital SABC TV ? Any ideas ?

      Had Enuf - 2013-03-12 23:25

      BTW, whatever happened to the digital SABC stuff ? I thought it was supposed to have happened around 2010 ?

      Kari Pentikainen - 2013-03-13 00:18

      If you die you could get away with not paying. But dont bet on it. Gravy Train needs money to keep rolling.

      carina.welman - 2013-03-13 08:55

      @ Mark Barker. I'm sorry but I have to disagree with you. I have a very close friend who had endless problems with SABC who BLACK LISTED her for R20 outstanding AFTER she cancelled her licence more than a year before hand. No warnings no nothing! Just black listed her. So yes, it does affect your credit score.

      mark.barker.370 - 2013-03-13 15:09

      @Carina - wrong , they cannot list you on the credit buros for a TV license , ask any of the credit buros , they don't carry this information

  • Peter Cornelius - 2013-03-12 23:30

    Internet television is going to maul these fewls. And then what will happen? Them and their buddies at DoC and ICASA will deep scan our traffic "for the good of the nation" in order to put a stop to it. Will the last technologically competent person to leave, please switch off the lights :)

  • prometheus.bound.12 - 2013-03-13 00:29

    Haven't paid for 10 years. Never will.

      Chris Clark - 2013-03-13 05:09

      poor comment , it is the law , until it is changed abide by the law , assume you drive without and safety belt ......................

      Mc Segal - 2013-03-13 16:28

      One can get into bigger trouble by not paying your TV licence than murdering someone in this country....Chris Clark....Most apartheid laws are abolished this should have gone the same way.

      Luke Smyth - 2013-03-13 18:38

      @Chris Clark - It is in fact not the law but extortion, just ignore all threats from SABC as that is all they can do. I live in the UK and the BBC use the exact same tactics, when they come to my door i tell them to piss off as they are trespassing.

      zmasemola1 - 2013-03-16 20:27

      @Luke I'm sorry to tell you this. You definitely don't wanna tell them TV license inspectors to piss off. By doing that you may be inviting the men in blue, and we all know how that might play itself out.

  • Andrew Wilson - 2013-03-13 00:43

    I left SA to work as an expat in Africa in 2007. Returned in 2012 to sort out some personal matters. Who tracks me down? The SABC debt collectors, apparently I needed to inform them in writing that I was leaving the country, I asked them to tell me where and in what law this was promulgated, needless to say that was the end of it. Crappy, embarrassing television.

      Themba Khumalo - 2013-03-13 02:43

      I left China to work as an expat in

      Tholakele Mngadi - 2013-03-13 05:38

      Lol lmao, I left SA to work as an expat in Africa. My question is, doesn't SA belong in Africa?

      andreviljoenjoubert - 2013-03-13 08:28

      I left SA 4 years ago. SABC tracked me to Namibia. Funny how they find me in another country but can't believe that I don't watch TV in SA and still have to pay.

      BurningdogZ - 2013-03-13 10:08

      Really Mngadi? Is your IQ to low to grasp the concept. If a person stated that he left England to do work abroad Europe it is safe to assume he worked in different countries on the European continent except England. South Africa is siuated in the African Continent yes, with a few other countries if you haven't noticed. So the fact that you laugh at his statement tells me more about your cognitive inadequacies than the guy you are laughing at. Contrary to popular African belief one is not considered a legal citizen in all African countries just because you were born on the continent, so when you cross the border you are considered an expat. Focus dude.

      Cassie Kruger - 2013-03-13 17:35

      Jip apart from South africa any one is welcome here apart from people born here.

  • pietopper - 2013-03-13 03:28

    Oh. Sorry. That horse bolted 20 years ago. Then the stables burned down. There's an 'informal settlement' there now. Nothing to see. Move along.

  • indianajohn - 2013-03-13 05:02

    It's preposterous that you still need a license to buy a TV. None of the TV sets/screens/displays I've bought in the last 10 years have shown even one second of SABC programming. None at all. Zero. Even if you buy a fancy HD LED set, which will be plugged into your DSTV decoder and/or computer, and NEVER go anywhere near an SABC signal, you need to have a TV license? And they wonder why people don't pay.

  • sintjohn.witbooi - 2013-03-13 05:02

    For reality commedy, broadcast SABC board meeting live.

  • precious.yumyum - 2013-03-13 05:02

    Don't pay your TV licence. It is not the right thing to do.

      clifton.andrews - 2013-03-13 10:08

      That's a double negative Precious....

  • Chris Clark - 2013-03-13 05:07

    Especially you pay on time , the get narky reminders , a salesman can link to the SABC with ones id number and get ones full address , no wonder that as soon as you but an expensive TV set , your house is invaded , I have just cancelled the purchases of new TVs for my abode due to a possible security lapse

      Steven Pieters - 2013-03-13 09:54

      Actually Chris they won't send anybody to your home,I stop watching TV 3 years ago and actually sold my TV, they insisted that I pay my licence even though I did not have it anymore I invited their inspectors to my place even gave them the adress myself, to date no one has pitched up. About once year some newbie will send me a sms demanding payment...then I just refer to all the dozens of communications I have had before ....legally speaking they can not touch you if you choose not to renew your licence ,which is the main problem they only harrass people whom has paid their licence fees in the past irrespective of weather or not you have a TV .... want a new TV get one from a computer or asian owned store. Technically speaking they should demand anybody with a smart phone also to pay TV license fees as there are many mobile TV sites and actually has been for many years. So if a cell phone owner does not have to pay a license fee to watch tv programs on his phone why should anybody that owns a TV? The real problem the SABC is and have been for a very long time been technically challenged and is effectively still in the technological dark ages.

  • Joe Soapie - 2013-03-13 05:55

    // South Africans will no longer believe that it is still 'the right thing to do' to pay for TV licences // Too late; I've never believed it is the "right thing to do" - if I want to watch SABC? Then sure. But if I only use my TV for my XBox why the hell should I pay SABC and their rubbish programme material a cent? (Rhetorical question)

      Gerasimos Komnenus - 2013-03-13 10:44

      This is exactly why Pravin is shaking in his shoes.......what happens if no one pays their taxes? Rubbish service delivery, corrupt politicians, bad roads, bad water, frot sewer systems, bankrupt SAA, Bankrupt municipalities, bankrupt everything I mean why do we actually pay taxes? Time to show these guys we mean business and the stealing has to stop.

  • Blocks Matome - 2013-03-13 06:02

    how can we pay our gorvenment media?

  • Nizole Middle-Finger Khala - 2013-03-13 06:03

    Its my first time ever to agree with an idiot but this article is straight to the point and you are right Inkatha!

  • Dee Bone - 2013-03-13 06:11

    give unto Ceasar so he may give unto the gupta's and every corrupt person. I wonder if they pay tv licence.....or even....nah forget it

  • intenetdebris - 2013-03-13 06:17

    Who actually watches SABC or ETV for that matter. Totally inane programming. Why pay a license fee when I get my TV programming from the Internet?

  • Celeste de Lange - 2013-03-13 06:26

    The only reasonI have a licence is because I could not buy a tv without one. I watch dstv and have not watched the crap on SABC for years!

  • Fairness IsEverything - 2013-03-13 06:33

    I stopped paying when they stopped being able to provide me with a receipt for my payments. Basic concept, I pay and you give me proof that I paid. Almost the same as our hospitals, schools, municipality, home affairs... You pay but you don't get what you pay for. Simple, stop paying.

  • Eugenio Lopes - 2013-03-13 06:36

    SABC is becoming more and more a Government sounding board which is of course sponsored by the controlled middle class. There is thus no incentive for them to provide a quality product.

  • Tshivhombela Fhatuwani - 2013-03-13 06:38

    SABC aka ANC CCTV.

  • Tammy Erasmus - 2013-03-13 06:44

    I honestly forgot to pay my licence this last year (paying for 30yrs) and they were all over my face. Wanting to sue me, blacklist etc. They never sent out renewal or finals but managed to send SMS. Would love to stop paying as I don't watch anything on SABC. Even in death they hound you.

      TC - 2013-03-13 07:26

      Tammy, just stop paying. Be bold!

      Mc Segal - 2013-03-13 19:04

      TC re your comment about the new age above: Personally I think its a great newspaper...The place I work at gets a large number of free samples every day..I am the only person there who opens one...I then take the previous days unopened ones and take them home ...They are perfect for painting, putting on the floor to catch oil leaks. and other uses ..The paper is very absorbent. lots of other uses and they clean windows better... And they are free....

      jimmy.walls.90 - 2013-03-13 19:09

      Wait until you die. And your kin informs them. They will still chase your skeleton.

  • J.Stephen.Whiteley - 2013-03-13 06:50

    Two years ago we objected to a soap, shown at peak viewing time, in which a man beat a woman with a belt. Two other women objected. The reply, from a professor, said that anything that happens in real life was fit for dramatic production, and quoted as an example a bank robbery.

  • Ferdi Preller - 2013-03-13 07:05

    Funny how everything is as a result of the apartheid regime, but some "laws" are kept to fund the incompetent few... Here is the pennydropper...we are willing to pay more than R7k a year on satellite tv but refuse to pay a SABC license-its LONG past the "revolt" stage! Are they stupid or what?

      jimmy.walls.90 - 2013-03-13 19:14

      Thanks for that. I never worked it out. You are right - R7k against R250. 250 of what rubbish.

  • Stephan van Wyk - 2013-03-13 07:10

    you mean people are still paying!

  • Winile Locksmith - 2013-03-13 07:12

    I only pay my TV license just to avoid all the legal action & my time. We dont even watch SABC bt we are paying for it. All the state owned companies are in a mess look SAA, eskom etc.

  • truthbetold221 - 2013-03-13 07:16

    So is it a TV licence or SABC licence? Just asking...

  • Nats Brown - 2013-03-13 07:16

    This license story is a colonialist remnant vis a vis BBC license. In the UK, BBC gets no advertising revenue and therefore uses license funding and deliver quality content. In SABC, there is advertising revenue AND license revenue and the content is crap. it's a rip off, we shouldn't have to pay.

  • TC - 2013-03-13 07:17

    SABC has in the time of Snuki already moved beyond the point of having peole pay TV licenses. It is actually teh WRONG thong to do!

  • Fern Yates - 2013-03-13 07:21

    Got rid of my TV in 2003 and bought a DVD player which doesn't require a license. Am discerning in what I watch and choose what is on my screen and have a choice. Will never get another TV in this country.

  • Abdul Cassiem - 2013-03-13 07:25

    Sold my tv to buy a horse more benefits.

  • gerry.klos - 2013-03-13 07:26

    Why must I pay for something I never use? If the SABC had something to offer, this might be different. Lets face it, it's in the same league as other African broadcasters. Wherever you can receive DSTV, people,don't watch the local propaganda channels.

  • Quartus van Zyl - 2013-03-13 07:27

    SABC is the propaganda medium of cANCer, but sadly they can not even do that right!

  • sheamus.drager - 2013-03-13 07:34

    "This requires dramatic, fast-moving and bold leadership ..." and Dina Pule in the same sentence, is the funniest thing I've heard today.

  • Sibongiseni Ndlangalavu - 2013-03-13 07:34

    honesty i don't see anything wrong with SABC am enjoying watching SABC only irritating part is the repeats

  • kenny.kwenamore - 2013-03-13 07:35

    Thanx God for Dstv it made me forget there's SABC the ANC's propaganda mouthpiece

  • Pete3730 - 2013-03-13 07:44

    The only thing i have ever learnt from watching SABC is which brand of washing powder to choose!

  • Tshepo Lekote - 2013-03-13 07:51

    The SABC r like an injured animal that needs to be put down coz there is no hope for that broadcaster.... #FACT# Which self respecting leader would want 2 associate themselves with the running of this mess??? Let Zuma do it coz he's used to failure

  • Nico van der Westhuizen - 2013-03-13 08:00

    Ok. Gebruik tv nou al 3 jaar net as my rekenaar monitor. Stel nie belang in tv nie. Het nie eers arial vir tv nie, en ook nie vir dstv nie. Hoekom moet ek betaal?

  • Steve Stega Chauke - 2013-03-13 08:10

    I fail 2 understand y must I pay Tv licence while m using Dstv n m paying 4 it every month

  • Errol Wagner - 2013-03-13 08:11

    The programmes on SABC are becoming more and more pathetic and boring. It seems to me they cater for those with the lowest level of intelligence. Any good programs are too late to watch. And the number of repeats! I feel like sending them old cheque payments as a reflection of what they are doing to the consumer. They should take a survey to establish how many people are actually watching their programs. Prime time is given to low cost locally produced programs.

  • Steven Steyl - 2013-03-13 08:21

    Don't watch TV, snipped my arial 5 years ago, have so much exstra time, for myself and family in the evenings. Might watch a DVD now and again.

  • Sello Mosiane - 2013-03-13 08:30

    National Transport Movement is on protected strike

  • Andre Marais - 2013-03-13 08:39

    The fact is, South Africans are not prepared to pay for low budget, poor quality content from SABC! The SABC should have been closed years ago!

  • Sello Mosiane - 2013-03-13 08:49

    News24 is the same as SABC, it is also bias. My latter comment is not a true reflection of what i posted, it has been adited

      jimmy.walls.90 - 2013-03-13 19:28

      Yes. We see the bias. When millions don't.

  • mxolisi.zuma.58 - 2013-03-13 08:52

    No wonder y SABC sport presenters r crossing d floor to Multichoice. Zuma as a failure himself cnt resolve d SABC mess. They need to act themselves together ASAP, anyway I'm just sayng I dnt nid dem though.

  • gideon.rossouw - 2013-03-13 09:05

    I might have paid my TV Licence because I was being harassed by lawyers, but I have utter contempt for the SABC, NEVER watch it and actually got the lawyer to agree with me that it is shameful to work for the SABC! Showing series like Hawai 5-0 for the first time, which is almost 50 years old, endless repeats of old Afrikaans tv series and endless drivel without meaningful content makes it a TOTAL waste of time. I may feel forced to pay the licence, but it is no different from being mugged by a violent and stupid offender, brandishing a weapon in my face!

  • Andrew Hunt - 2013-03-13 09:11

    The SABC is very important to ANC as this is their main means of communication to the masses. The masses do not have access to Internet or pay TV channels where the truth is revealed so SABC can tell them anything they want. Corruption and other Govt mis-management is excluded or just touched on so the masses remain ignorant.

      YagAvaryu - 2013-03-13 18:02

      Probably he most insightful comment of the lot, Andrew! SATV keeping the electorate too uninformed to know that they are uninformed. And we hear/read all these comments that the ANC are stupid. No, they are very cunning. They know when to back off and when there is no need to. Look how long their Soviet mentors lasted.