Sisulu wants exemptions for military

2012-05-15 20:09

Cape Town - Defence Minister Lindiwe Sisulu has called for allowances to be made for the military under the Public Finance Management Act (PMFA) to help it achieve audit compliance.

Briefing MPs on the defence department's audits on Tuesday, she said certain PMFA reporting rules were too onerous for the military because of its special operating conditions.

Sisulu singled out Treasury requirements that applied to tenders over R500 000, suggesting the threshold was too low when it came to defence contracts.

She said the ministry felt constrained by the requirement to investigate allegations of financial misconduct within 30 days of their discovery, given that it also operated outside the country's borders.

"We don't want to be outside the PMFA. We want to comply, but certain areas of the PMFA did not take into account the uniqueness of defence."

The defence department has accrued irregular expenditure of R799 349m in recent years, mainly from failing to comply with the Treasury's procurement rules.

The finding related to late lease payments, the now-cancelled A400 Airbus contract and a failure to institute a competitive bidding process to proper procure goods and services worth more than half a million rands.

"Airbus is still dogging us. It comes up again and again though we have cancelled," Sisulu said.

Defence Secretary Sam Gulube said the department had investigated more than 120 of the 129 cases of irregular expenditure reported. An amount of R275m was still not accounted for.

He said the process should be completed by the end of the year.

The department also needed to resolve 24 cases of fruitless expenditure amounting to a loss of R10m.

The minister said the department was introducing a compliance strategy on expenditure and instructing staff to follow rules.

The defence department improved its audit results from 16 qualifications in 2007/2008 to a single one two years later.

The remaining problem was a wholesale failure to maintain a proper asset register and disclose financial information regarding assets.

Last year, it again received one qualification on the same count. It now had a register that was not adequate.

Sisulu said the auditor general had acknowledged that the department had made significant progress in dealing with the problem.

"There is that lingering problem and it is still about the tangible and intangible assets," she said.

"Defence is such a difficult institution to adhere to these standards because of its uniqueness.

"We have tried in vain to get an exemption. I have been on my knees to the accountant general, the auditor general and the [finance] minister himself and they have all said 'no'."

Sisulu conceded that a number of senior defence managers had failed to enter into performance agreements in the current financial year.

  • Mark - 2012-05-15 20:18

    Welfare jobs

      Rudi - 2012-05-15 20:58

      SO she wants more room to be corrupt. Cant get enough with PFMA in place so they want exceptions to be made so that they can milk this dying cow even more. WHy do you think they said no you idiot? BECAUSE IF THEY SAY YES YOU WILL BE THROWING AWAY EVEN MORE! Bloody hell, we are being governed by a bunch of morons...

      Squeegee - 2012-05-15 21:10

      Is she totally out of her mind? How can we give anyone this sort of freedom to steal? Investigate her.

      Rob - 2012-05-16 07:04

      They need to buy more wheelbarrows ( ambulances ) and and new pair of pink slippers for a certain luitenant lol.

  • dave.leverton - 2012-05-15 20:22

    "I have been on my knees to the accountant general, the auditor general and the [finance] minister himself and they have all said 'no'." So which part of that is so difficult to understand ?

      Bokfan - 2012-05-15 20:56

      Apparently she is on her knees to some corporals and troepe as well. And they said YES!! Indeed standards have dropped. Right next to the broekies.

      Rudi - 2012-05-15 21:13

      Maybe they said no thanks...

  • Sharon - 2012-05-15 20:29

    It is amazing how sums of money are thrown about - R 800 million irregular spending, R 275 million unaccounted for. Hello???? That is REAL money, and some of it is my hard-earned tax money!! And then she asks for "allowances to be made" and "R 500 000 threshold is too low" Just think how bad it would have been if the restraints had not been there!

  • pws69 - 2012-05-15 20:30

    "Defence is such a difficult institution to adhere to these standards because of its uniqueness. translation: I'm useless, and every cadre I have deployed is useless, but who cares, the taxpayer has LOTS of money that we can steal.

  • lownabester - 2012-05-15 20:39

    This lady is not only arrogant but has no clue what the word "No" means, neither does she know how to work with money, Bad...One of the worst politicians No manners.

  • Ro - 2012-05-15 20:42

    What so you can steal. The fact is military tenders are much more than R500,000 so in fact this should never be a problem. Or is stealing less than R500,000 not worth your while anymore?

  • Ro - 2012-05-15 20:43

    Withhold tax

  • jan.henning.14 - 2012-05-15 20:45

    Covering for dodgy procedures in awarding lucrative contracts to tenderpreneurs.

  • bill.vanzyl - 2012-05-15 20:52

    Why do we need an expensive Defense Force?? Do we really need tanks and stuff? Is an Air-force with a strike capability really necessary? Our Navy is already tiny and of no consequence in any conflict, why bother? What need is there for a huge military commitment? Who is going to threaten our borders? Why not reallocate the military budget to a better, more efficient police force and border control agency? Use some of the money to pay for better roads and rail infrastructure, more hospitals, schools. We are wasting enormous resources to maintain "peace keeping forces" in other countries while our own peoples needs are not adequately addressed. And we will save the salary budget for an inefficient bunch of civilians who populate the Ministry.

      Johnny - 2012-05-15 21:27

      I hardly think the couple fighter planes are strike capable. Statistically a person could fit the whole Defense Force on 1 (yes one) American Air craft carrier, with a bit of room to spare. And any country needs a military, because if, for example, Zimbabwe decides they taking SA by force, do you think the police is going to run around in the bushes trying to save YOUR lives??

      Arie - 2012-05-15 21:49

      Your mindset is the same as not to have insurance, as you always pay the car guard at the mall. It seems your assets are safe, but when it gets stollen, will that bloke replace what you have lost?

      Freddy - 2012-05-15 21:55

      bill.vanzyl, you old fool, just be be gratefull something is in place to protect you or is your your life that holy?

      Mewik - 2012-05-15 22:12

      Only thing I have seen our wonderful new ships do so far is host an episode of Masterchef. We were told how great they will be with stopping poaching in our seas, yet as far as I am aware they are to date still to stop one single frikken boat poaching in our waters. Our lovely submarines, we still can't find them either, one is in pieces due to our failure to read the instruction manual I know that much. Our amazingly outdated new Gryphens, well we don't have enough pilots to fly them, unless each pilot has a spare one which is possible. We paid some other Finnish company to provide us with new apcs, R6mil each, despite Denel offering to retro fit existing vehicles to a higher spec for R600k each. The list goes on and on and on and on. Best laugh is that recent story of the SA citizen who's now being awarded by the British RAF for landing a C130 in Libya, after we declined him entry to our poxy airforce. Wtf exactly did his application test consist of?? Did they just check which box he ticked for race on his application form? I doubt he was even given an eye test, just straight rejection I suspect. I know for a fact that at the airbase in CT a teagirl became a Captain and one of the top guys there had a matric from the Hoofmeisie School in Bloemfontein???? Come on now seriously

  • Stefaans - 2012-05-15 21:01

    The defence force does not even stand guard at their own institutions, they are hiring guards from private companie to protect them selves and their assets. Baybe because they would want overtime pay too for standing guard. What a disgrace to a real soldier.????

      Johnny - 2012-05-15 21:13

      What military base is doing this?

      lebogang.kekana2 - 2012-05-15 22:03

      defence hq,coin security is used.....

  • Bomb - 2012-05-15 21:01

    Being on your knees can be a very compromising position, whether facing forward, or backward...LOL!!!!

  • Tian Reyneke - 2012-05-15 21:12

    What idiots more of my taxes getting stolen every day grade 2 degenerates

  • Rob - 2012-05-15 21:28

    Just tell her to do her job and stop whingeing. A military organisation should by definition be better structured and more capabaly of compliance with instructions. aSo this amounts to an admission of incompetence.

      Wally Walters - 2012-05-15 21:54

      what military is it still existing

      imoilwa1 - 2012-05-16 22:41

      She must do her job we doin a lot for SA or sum1 wth millitary background must be hired n she must leav

  • Vernon - 2012-05-15 21:42

    civilian handling military matters

  • Mike - 2012-05-15 22:08

    Minister Lindiwe Sisulu, why should you need an exemption. You are part of the very government responsible for this requirement. If you cannot comply, is it because you and your finance epartment are incapable of doing the job or is it a result of your incompetence to lead your defense ministry ? Do the honorable thing. Be accountable for the inept way you have managed this ministry and resign now ! Your replacement should : 1. understand what is required of them 2. be able to execute the responsibilities entrusted to them and 3. be accountable for the manner in which the ministry conducts all of its affairs.

  • Thabo - 2012-05-16 00:17

    Fire the lot for non-compliance!

  • Phillys - 2012-05-16 06:41

    remember people that a large portion of the R800 million irregular expenditure is for "wig maintenance " for this haughty cow!!!!!!

  • Gert - 2012-05-16 06:55

    "Sisulu conceded that a number of senior defence managers had failed to enter into performance agreements in the current financial year." SIMPLE ...FIRE THEM OR FIRE HER.

  • Stille - 2012-05-16 07:19

    Project Hoefyster springs to mind. Idiots.

  • Hugh - 2012-05-16 08:43

    If you do not keep a tight reign then those in power will take advantage. Time and again it has been proved that this is the case. Those in charge no mattrer the payment will happily steal more for no other reason than that they can do it.

  • jack.kukard - 2012-05-16 10:51

    And the train keeps on rolling.......

  • dawitbooi - 2012-05-17 04:08

    Just go and check the salary notches of top flight officers in the defence. And not only in the DoD! This has become a norm in all the state departments to pay ridiculously high salaries to top flight personnel meanwhile the members lower down gets cut down on any and all allowances. We as South Africans hav become greedy!

  • ruben.maistry - 2012-08-06 13:33

    The noose is a bit too tight for Sisulu.Now that the norm for CORRUPTION is well into the billions R500 000.00 does not meet the required figure. Poor taxpayers still paying.

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