Sorry, I can't fire ministers: Motlanthe

2012-08-29 18:00

Johannesburg - Deputy President Kgalema Motlanthe has told MPs the firing of ministers was out of his hands because he was only in Cabinet “by invitation”.

Motlanthe was asked by Cope MP Papi Kganare why Police Minister Nathi Mthethwa wasn’t being sacked for the police’s failure to stem violent protests, including the recent strike at Marikana where 34 miners were killed by police.

“We have no leadership,” Kganare complained.

Motlanthe replied: “Unfortunately I’m only the deputy president, I also serve in the Cabinet by invitation.”

He did not comment on the merits of Kganare’s statement.

Motlanthe also said people had the right to protest, but solving problems using violence was wrong.

Another minister in the MP’s line of fire was Education Minister Angie Motshekga, who was supposed to have answered parliamentary questions after Motlanthe.

The task was, however, left to her deputy Enver Surty because Motshekga was representing South Africa at a congress abroad.

Cope’s Willie Madisha asked if Surty and Motshekga were prepared to step down following government’s failure to deliver textbooks in Limpopo.

“And if they will not, will the presidency ensure that they step down?”

Surty told Madisha to refer this matter to President Jacob Zuma, who was responsible for the appointment of ministers.

  • christopher.m.lowe - 2012-08-29 18:10

    Where were the DA "shadow minister" (ha ha)? Why weren't they asking questions?

      Squeegee - 2012-08-29 19:17

      I'm still concerned that Juju supports Motlanthe. What does he know that we don't? What promises have been made?

      Vince.York - 2012-08-29 21:04

      DA = The DA produced its best results ever at the polls, scoring almost a million new voters to take its nationwide tally from 1,931,201 to just under 3,000,000, a growth of 50 per cent. This made it the only party in South Africa to have grown in all three of the most recent elections. Thank you DA

      lownabester - 2012-08-30 00:03

      I dont trust Motlanthe, he is a snake, we need new blood. pale blood.

      hendrik.verwoerd.94 - 2012-08-30 05:17

      Yes Rooster, by whom are the DA leaders voted? Also by the party themselves.

      jo.barton.92 - 2012-08-30 07:18

      He is there by invitation only which means that he does not have to do his job. After all, it wasn't his fault that he got elected.Now that is the mother of all excuses.

      emil.scharf.75 - 2012-08-30 09:19

      @Vince So what if the DA is growing? The ANC received 62% in 1994, 66% in 1999, more than 2/3 in 2004, more than 65% in 2009.Municipal results are not worth mentioning as it has been proven that it does not give a good indication of how the ANC will do in the National election.Since 1994 the DP/DA has only managed to consolidate the oposition.Which is actually problematic as we now have the ANC which is a Socialist party and the DA which is a Liberal Democrat kind of party.What we need is a coalition that can take on the ANC.In this coalition we need a pro-business "conservative" party that are honest with the people.Grants,BEE, land reform, Affirmative action, being sorry about Lonmin, allowing millions of illegal immigrants to stay in this country, blaming Verwoerd for the text book crises in Limpopo will never ever uplift the masses in this country.We need a party that says that and intervene militarily in Zimbabwe to bring about regime change that will benefit the whole region, and the DA with their Liberal ideas that they are trying to sell to the masses will not be able to be frank about those issues.I talked to a Republican American once, and he told me "Do you know why your country is f..ed? You have the ANC which is Socialist, and you have the DA that's Liberal, you need a pro-business party".The DA does a wonderful job in the Western Cape and on municipal level, but on national level they are not clear about how they are going to solve our problems.

  • oageng.lekete.7 - 2012-08-29 18:11

    Give Kgalema umshini wakhe, Zuma.

  • dan.cooper.9634 - 2012-08-29 18:13

    Only the by invitation ???? , well than I would like to UNinvite you / You are invited by the VOTERS , which demand competency and accountability from you . What a loser!!! typical of a incompetent person , will always find an excuse not to do the job or be accountable . A competent honourable person would have found a way to do the job . Im ashamed of this idiot

      oageng.lekete.7 - 2012-08-29 18:23

      You clearly fail to understand the meaning of "POWERS",dan. Innit?

      mohlala.moroamadile - 2012-08-29 22:18

      @dan - u are way too angry to be blogging in here mate. take a chill pill b4 u call people idiots for no good reason. u need to understand his roles and his responsibilities b4 u make such an empty noise. education is vital and i recommend u educate urself about his roles and his limitations as the deputy.

      jo.barton.92 - 2012-08-30 07:20

      @mohlala.moroamadile - the deputy is the backbone of the president.He is there to point out the mistakes and make recommendations to the presidency.The problem is that he feels he does not have to do anything. That is sad. So the questions remains:"What is he there for?"

  • klaas.waarzegger.7 - 2012-08-29 18:15

    Christopher. They did not ask questionsy since they already have all the arnswers.

  • sizwe.nyembe - 2012-08-29 18:21

    Ofcourse it is the responsibility of the president to dismiss underperforming ministers, however, you have a capacity to issue a stern statement on underperforming ministers. I think you are now trying to cosy up to the ministers so that they can vote for you in Bloemfontein.

      jo.barton.92 - 2012-08-30 07:22

      @sizwe, you are 100% correct. He wants to become the president.That is why,unlike Zuma, he maintained his relationship with Malema.Malema may be a lot of things, but one thing for sure is that he can make the ordinary people do what he says. That is dangerous.

  • sizwe.nyembe - 2012-08-29 18:22

    Ofcourse it is the responsibility of the president to dismiss underperforming ministers, however, you have a capacity to issue a stern statement on underperforming ministers. I think you are now trying to cosy up to the ministers so that they can vote for you in Bloemfontein.

      ISO - 2012-08-29 18:27

      Spot on Sizwe

      oageng.lekete.7 - 2012-08-29 18:29

      Voting for Kgalema in Mangaung will be the South African resurrection Sizwe, you and I knows that better than our thoughts.

      ISO - 2012-08-29 18:34

      Resurrection to what controversy?

      jacqui.daanevanrensburg - 2012-08-30 10:50

      Sizwe.nyembe. Oh dear you think he is a devious thinker too?. I met him on one occassion and found him to be soft and gentle. I don't know if he will be able to take the steps this country really need. I have my doubts.

  • morne.demeillon - 2012-08-29 18:24

    What can you actually do Motlanthe? All you do is sit on the sideline and wait for your chance to grab the crown, you clown!

      Gerda Malherbe - 2012-08-29 21:52

      No, ISO, he also recveives a huge salary for doing FA!

  • Anthea - 2012-08-29 18:26

    So who the heck DOES have the balls to fire useless ministers?

      larry.piggott1 - 2012-08-29 18:31

      The Guy with the spear….but no Balls.

      alf.pop - 2012-08-30 07:53

      NOBODY IN THIS GOVERNMENT! In a real democracy ministers resign for much less than stuffing up the entire education system, without being ordered to resign by the head of government. In South Africa, if they are married to the mischief whip, they can be as thick as they come, but they stay in their jobs and we pay for these mental cases and leeches of society!

  • zeepolar - 2012-08-29 18:29

    news24 ...come on. WTF???????????????????????????? stop deleting my posts for pete's sake!! yerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr! hypocrites!! u dont want the government to censor u yet u sensor us. motlanthe simply doesnt want to make enemies. he has mangaung on his mind.

      ryan.macdougall - 2012-08-29 19:18

      I completely agree with you, I too have had many relevant comments removed with no explanation. I would appreciate it if a news 24 moderator would explain why comments are removed.

  • mantsho.tlali - 2012-08-29 18:43

    If This Motlanthe become the president, l fear the worst, l dont think he is strong at all, when l look at him l just see a person whose answer to everything is YES, and he will bring Malema back to come and controll him and pull him with his nose. It will be better to stick with Zuma. bilieve me.

      mohlala.moroamadile - 2012-08-29 22:24

      why should we keep someone who has failed us

      dan.cooper.9634 - 2012-08-29 23:34

      @Mantso , up to now , i thought that Mothlante was quite good and I had a lot of respect for him , No corruption surfaced up to date and I thought he did a very good job as caretaker president after Mbeki , but this statement .?????? He is clearly kissing backsides for votes at Mangaung . I stil think that he would be better than Showerhead , at least this statement proves is incompetency . If i have to choose between incompetency and corruption+incompetency+alledged rapist+imbezler then incompetency gets my vote

      pws69 - 2012-08-30 06:51

      @Dan, research the Iraqi food for oil scandal, and Motlanthe's name comes up. He is not clean, and he has no courage.

  • ntsiki.mdeni - 2012-08-29 19:03

    Come on guys.. The rights to fire a minister lie with the President!!

      jo.barton.92 - 2012-08-30 07:26

      So why doesn't the president do just that?Motlanthe was there representing the presidency, so he should be taking all these questions back to Zuma and advising him as such. He has failed the public in his role.

  • ntsunyane.frederick - 2012-08-29 19:05

    The leader of cope was supposed to be dismissed by Mlambo_Nquka for handling Khutsong issue.People tend to forget quickly.

      pws69 - 2012-08-30 06:52

      If memory serves, he was an ANC MP at the time, and the ANC did nothing.

  • franklyn.davies.1 - 2012-08-29 19:10

    jeez,these guys are spineless....what are they hiding ? always covering each others backs and watching the country slide into anarchy.

  • Muffin_man_can - 2012-08-29 19:21

    Zille has bigger balls than Zuma and Motlanthe combined! Shame on you spineless 'leaders' of SA!

  • gerhard.kress.3 - 2012-08-29 19:22

    Mielie mouthed Champagne Mothlanthe!

  • roger.kaputnick.90 - 2012-08-29 19:27

    So what do we hard working tax payers pay this oke to do if he is just THERE BY INVITE and he does FA.

      AyGeewils - 2012-08-29 19:45

      What, might I ask, does he get paid to do? ... Nothing?? If he is just invited and has no mandate.

  • harold.parsons.37 - 2012-08-29 19:31

    Do not fire anybody. We the people will be getting rid of the Complete ANC and putting a new party in power with democratically elected leaders. These leaders will make themselves available when the time comes.The ANC has served its purpose and can do no more for the people we are free now we need a prope political leadership free of criminals.

      jacqui.daanevanrensburg - 2012-08-30 10:53

      Harold, I can't wait but I have my doubts. At the end of the day people are people and always put themselves first.

  • amanda - 2012-08-29 20:34

    As you have now admitted that your position is by invitation only you should do the honourable thing and resign now!

      mohlala.moroamadile - 2012-08-29 22:21


      jo.barton.92 - 2012-08-30 07:32

      @mohlala: why? I will tell you why, it because we are paying him over a million rand to sit and do nothing. That is by his admission.He open stated that he has no powers.So why earn such a huge salary?

      blip.noodlum - 2012-08-30 07:42

      He's only in it for the money.

  • pierre.walt - 2012-08-29 20:51

    And you might be the next president? What a fjjk country.

  • johan.jacobs.5680 - 2012-08-29 20:57

    Sorry but I find him pathetic,indecisive,and just not suitable to lead a nation in trouble.

      mohlala.moroamadile - 2012-08-29 22:22

      so who do u find suitable? zille?

      roger.kaputnick.90 - 2012-08-29 22:53

      @ mohlala....YES you got it finally!!! now go and vote.

  • harald.voney - 2012-08-30 07:15

    She's got huge issues alover her dept, with schools being burnt etcetc , and she is abroad at a congress... really!

      janet.pretorius1 - 2012-08-30 08:55

      .... heh heh heh - and representing the coun tree

      gail.hayesbean - 2012-08-30 10:36

      If an Empire is ruled by an Emperor and a Kingdom by a King, who rules a country? Hahaha

  • donald.perumal - 2012-08-30 09:42

    Hi All Motlanthe's eyes and hands are on Mangaung,if he is in Cabinet by invitation I suppose he will become President by default! Take some responsibility,afterall you are the Deputy President!But then again,all sorts of stories are circulating in SA about your dirty hands!!!!!!!!!!That might explain your close alliance with Juju,it seems he is better at manipulation than you are! African Politics 101,first accumulate the dirt then use it to lever power.Look at the hands of our politicians they are dripping with filth!

  • jacqui.daanevanrensburg - 2012-08-30 10:46

    Yes and the one that can do the firing is dining in Botswana. This country can just as well have a paper bag for president.

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