'Spy tapes': Presidency fails to file

2012-10-24 21:57

Johannesburg - The presidency has failed to file an answering affidavit to a new court application by the Democratic Alliance, the party said on Wednesday.

The presidency had until 16:30 on Wednesday to file a response to the DA's application that it compel the National Prosecuting Authority to produce a "reduced record of decision" related to the dropping of the prosecution against President Jacob Zuma, said DA federal executive chairperson James Selfe in a statement.

Neither presidency spokesperson Mac Maharaj nor Zuma's lawyer, Michael Hulley, could be reached for comment.

"The DA views this in a very serious light," Selfe said.

"Our legal representatives will be following up again first thing tomorrow [Thursday] morning to ascertain the reasons for this failure to comply with the due process of the law."

The NPA has said while the Supreme Court of Appeal had ordered it to furnish the reduced record to the DA, this was contingent on Zuma's lawyers not objecting on the grounds of confidentiality.

Zuma's lawyers did object, so the NPA could not hand the record over.

The NPA welcomed the DA's court challenge as the appropriate forum to determine whether or not the NPA had an obligation to release the transcripts of recordings.

"Once the North Gauteng [Pretoria] High Court makes a pronouncement, the NPA will abide by the decision of the court."

The tapes supposedly contain conversations that alluded to impropriety in the course of the investigation into corruption charges against Zuma in the arms deal case.

The conversations were given as the reason why the case against Zuma was tainted, resulting in charges against him and arms company Thint being dropped.

  • braamc - 2012-10-24 22:00

    He is a criminal

      mark.a.fysh - 2012-10-24 22:12

      I would say he IS a contravention of the Constitution, Braam

      goeie.jaarling - 2012-10-24 22:14

      ...according to civilized standards, but this is Africa and he is the main peanut in the packet in which case he is required to be the main criminal to lead the majority of criminals.

      nicholas.graan - 2012-10-24 22:26

      it is starting to get hot in the kitchen again for the Chief.

      lownabester - 2012-10-24 22:31

      Neither presidency spokesperson Mac Maharaj nor Zuma's lawyer, Michael Hulley, could be reached for comment" The 2 stupid puppets and their puppet master, Showerhead, running scare???? Banggatte

      SharonE - 2012-10-24 22:39

      On the News24 front page is a pic of Jacob holding a piece of paper with "Cape Verde" written on it - check it out. I rest my case...

      atholl.canterbury - 2012-10-24 22:47

      This is going to need a : .. Biblionic .. Solomonic .. Nicholsonic Intervention A second transition of the national democratic revolution ?

      matshobana.siziba - 2012-10-25 08:11

      What the Mbekis think of ANC on like the page and keep updated

      Matthew - 2012-10-25 14:30

      And a rapist

  • mark.a.fysh - 2012-10-24 22:01

    The DA knows they will wait forever, but at least they can shine the light on this crook.

  • Vince.York - 2012-10-24 22:13

    What is for desert? "president in impeachment"?

      art5SA - 2012-10-25 06:29

      With a DASH of CREAM!

  • george.slade.161 - 2012-10-24 22:13

    An admission of Guilt --A Law unto themselves : TAX Boycott.

      mc.segal.5 - 2012-10-25 05:49

      Yes How?

  • terrylee.heuer - 2012-10-24 22:59

    Is our President above the law??!!!

      joe.irwin.50 - 2012-10-25 07:37

      As long as the ANC is in power he is. He and many more.

  • - 2012-10-24 23:23

    There is a total disregard for law by some government entities. And they expect ordinary citizens to be obedient?!

  • Tony.Montana.Moelenyane - 2012-10-25 00:23

    Maar when will this criminal step down?????I've heard enough abt him ,m about 2 vomit him!!!!!!!!!!!!jerrrrrrrrr

  • brettcch - 2012-10-25 00:24

    If you didn't need any more proof that Mr Zuma is a gangster in President's clothing

      gerrit.vanpletzen - 2012-10-25 06:00

      You're new? The name is not Mr. Zuma. Zoomer, Showerhead, Potatohead etc. will do.

  • jerry.medina.756 - 2012-10-25 00:27

    Good, then lock him up. There was never spy tapes in the first place. I am disgusted by the NPA.

  • ryan.a.smith.3958 - 2012-10-25 00:43

    wait, so Zuma's lawyers can object to the Supreme Court of Appeals ruling ????????? if they can just dismiss it like that whats the point of the ruling ????? makes no sense.

  • lephans.lufuno - 2012-10-25 00:52

    Every dog will have its day

  • JohnDough - 2012-10-25 01:11

    The headline reads: 'Spy tapes': Presidency fails to file. They could have just left the "to file" bit off and it would be a lot more accurate.

  • boitshoko.moacwi - 2012-10-25 05:10

    Y are they delaying to bring the spytapes,obviously there is sumthing,zuma must provide leadership nd bring the tape,no one is above the law in this country.

      hein.huyser - 2012-10-25 07:06

      We will see about that one. The outcome of this case will tell you if we have a democracy in the making, or a banana-republic with a dictatorship like the rest of Africa

  • rebecca.pooe - 2012-10-25 05:40

    His probably buying time,hand them over after Mangaung

  • gerrit.vanpletzen - 2012-10-25 05:54

    I did not expect anything else. The law is for other people, remember.

  • gerrit.vanpletzen - 2012-10-25 05:56

    Rustic, Zuma is a contravention of the laws of nature. How he manages to walk upright is another.

  • arthur.salvado - 2012-10-25 06:13

    mmmmmm things are cooking with gas. Very very hot.........but nothing will come of it except for another hammering of tax payers money. Save tax payers money and simply lock him up.

  • gregory.jurgens - 2012-10-25 06:18

    The law doesn't apply to mighty dictators.

  • Phindile Manganyi - 2012-10-25 06:25

    okay since all attacks towards the President has Julius Malema,Fikile Mbalula & the rest,now the demand for transcripts is made by Julius' no.1 enemy,is JZ and his people still crying foul??Lets see

      hein.huyser - 2012-10-25 07:09

      Phindile, wrong is wrong. If both are wrong, then both must visit "sun-city". And the sooner the better

  • marilyn.docherty.9 - 2012-10-25 06:54

    Jacob Zuma sees himself above the law. If he has nothing to hide, why is he running scared?

  • lindani.zulu2 - 2012-10-25 07:02

    The DA Is just bloody stupid...everytime when an ANC conference is nearer they push for such things against zuma..obviously his lawyers will do anything to delay things until after mangaung.. They had all the time in the world since 2010 to try to get their hands on these tapes but they ddnt. If u want best results u work hard early from the beggining..zuma is not a child in politics and he ddnt go to school to learn such games..that is why he will always be one step ahead of everyone who comes his way.

      Shannon Moffett - 2012-10-25 07:18

      Lindani, I disagree. Zuma is excellent in swinging support the DA's way so why would they want him to lose in December. Also, they have been trying for years to get those tapes, if they exist at all.

      Synomore - 2012-10-25 07:30

      Lindani this case was laid immediately after dropping charges,so if there is any delay its the courts and they delaying tactics which the're very good in that.

      jackie.botha.10 - 2012-10-25 08:56

      "zuma is not a child in politics and he ddnt go to school to learn such games." uhm... well, quite frankly, he only went to school up until grade 6... so yes... you are correct... "he didn't go to school"

  • sisie.indola - 2012-10-25 07:13

    There were no tapes to start with - now they have to keep them under wraps, because it would be an embarrassment if it came to light that the people of SA were conned. Watch suddenly they will disappear, or accidently destroyed.

  • luvo.luvos - 2012-10-25 07:17

    Which is why Zuma wants to get the 2nd term so badly to make use of a policy that will make him immune to prosecution. Pity those who support him are being blinded to that fact.

  • luvo.luvos - 2012-10-25 07:18

    Which is why Zuma wants to get the 2nd term so badly to make use of a policy that will make him immune to prosecution. Pity those who support him are being blinded to that fact. He knows he's guilty to the core and so do his closest allies.

  • Synomore - 2012-10-25 07:20

    Its getting hot,its spy tapes right so How did they obtain them? Unlawful ofcourse thats another case.Thats why they dont want to release those tape now and Mangaung is around the corner.

  • mamohaumange.matube - 2012-10-25 07:31

    People of south africa what's wrong now our President is no more respected even our youth. I yephi intlonipho D A everytime u want some negative things from A N C. Bag off leave those tapes. Let us stop fighting each other

      jakobus.thulasizwe - 2012-10-25 08:45

      If these tapes ever existed they must be brought foward. Zuma accused President Mbeki of political conspiracy against him, and claimed he was innocent. But he went to Matritius to block the diary that contained details of the corruption charges against him. Against he made all desperate efforts to stop the charges by manufacturing pseudo tapes. It is clear that there were no tapes at all. If they ever existed, they should be brought foward so as to lay the issue to rest. I support a call by Cope President even if I differ with him in some issues, that the President be impeached. A motion should be made in Parliament by a secret ballot to remove Zuma for defying the Constitution. - 2012-10-25 08:51

      Its people like you that bring us down as black people, please go to school understand politics a bit and then come fart again through your mouth maybe this time it wont stink as much!

  • jola.jose.7 - 2012-10-25 07:41

    He must be taken to icc there is no justice in this country

      Ntshobs - 2012-10-25 07:58

      @jola, De Klerk to the icc first

      Synomore - 2012-10-25 10:55

      There is 2 set of law in this country for the haves and the have nots.Justice is for the haves Just-ice for the have nots. As for ICC its for African dictators like Charles Taylor's not for George Bush's its a joke

  • carolyn.myburgh - 2012-10-25 07:53

    Arrest him the law is the law

  • winifred.watson.9 - 2012-10-25 08:07

    The ANC should lead by example, if the court ruled that those tapes should be handed over then adhere to the law. This only shows us that the ANC is a lawless organisation who are only there for themselves. They are covering up for a man who will eventually go to jail one day but by doing this they are putting themselves at risk and the ANC organisation the want people to vote for. What does this tell anybody about zuma and his rotten cadres .....all believe they are the mafia.

  • mpilo.ndwndwe - 2012-10-25 08:51

    Question is: can the NPA be trusted? charges withdrawn because NPA had tapes to prove that the corruption case against Mr. President was compromised. Where are the tapes? who was cooking the case against Zuma?

  • ro.jhb.1 - 2012-10-25 09:10

    Lock all the bastards up immediately

  • Vince.York - 2012-10-25 09:18

    After impeachment, every action deserves an equal reaction so as a reward:-

  • ray.molekoa.5 - 2012-10-25 09:31

    I just like this Zille woman . Taking Zuma by them balls kaal hand nogal and yanking him around like this ? The truth is about to come out soon before she applies the big squeeze if he gets harde g @t !

  • qhama.bona - 2012-10-25 10:52

    Again Jacob Zuma and his people show complete disregard for the rule of law. My goodness when will it end? Now I can see why Mbeki tried so desperately to cling onto the presidency of the ANC. He knew that Jacob Zuma would undermine the rule of law for his own selfish ends. Don't get me wrong people I'm not making Mbeki some messiah but he gave the office of the presidency some dignity. We may have disagreed with some of his positions but we knew where he stood. He even communicated his idea through his columns in the ANC website. He also didn't try to cling onto power when his ANC comrades removed in the most cruel of ways. Jacob Zuma on the other hand has used every trick in the book to stay away from court. Admittedly there was some political manipulation in his case as those tapes proved. However there can be no such theories now because he is the incumbent so he controls all the levers of power. All his lawyers have to do is to give those tapes to the DA because the courts say so. The ANC have said on numerous occasions that no one should be above the law so why is Zuma defying his party's position? But then again that same party look set to giving the worst president in the history of SA a second term. One wonders about the logic ANC delegates use to elect leaders because clearly it is logic that is flawed. Why would you elect a leader who undermines the law at every given opportunity?

      steve.ritchie.739 - 2012-10-25 12:05

      Zipper wants to use a second term to entrench himself as a dictator. The way the cANCer handled the Mbeki issue was pathetic. At least, as you state, Mbeki gave the office some dignity, something Zooooomer is void of. Unless the voters wake up soon, the cANCer will reduce a once promised land to shyte.

  • mfana.sobukwe - 2012-10-25 12:38

    dis man must get of da stage. it is time dat bra JUJU taeks over. we oun dis cntry now and i want my hous. BRA JU will make sure da whytes go back to da US whr dey came from. and dis madam mus stop with her nonsins and just leave da cntry. it is urs now. inkosazana ixoxo nxm

  • jacqui.daanevanrensburg - 2012-10-25 13:23

    Zuma is above the law, or so he thinks. Give him another term in office and he will be ready to take God's place.

      Andrea - 2012-10-25 14:10

      or so he thinks.

  • lvhukeya1 - 2012-10-25 15:48

    The way things are at de momment tells me dat JZ will go to jail eventually nd all his assets will be freesed.

  • lvhukeya1 - 2012-10-25 15:59

    sO IF they refuse to release them why can't u send the sherrif of de court to get them by force.

  • charisse.dirr - 2012-10-27 02:11

    What's a bet that as soon as zuma became president he made sure all evidence for and against his coruption mysteriously disappeared... time to get rid of the cANCer that is slowly killing SA

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