Suspend Zuma's R2bn jet purchase: Sisulu

2012-07-02 17:38

Johannesburg - Former defence minister Lindiwe Sisulu has advised the suspension of the purchase of a luxury jet for President Jacob Zuma, her office said on Monday.

It said in a statement her advice to defence secretary Sam Makhudu Gulube was to suspend the purchase, so current Defence Minister Nosiviwe Mapisa-Nqakula could review the deal.

Sisulu said in the statement: "We had [previously] come to the conclusion that purchasing was the best option, but we did not want to impose that on the new minister... we wanted her to look at the challenge, analyse it and find the best solution without any pressure."

The defence ministry declined to say whether the purchase had indeed been suspended.

Last week, it was reported that Gulube was visiting the United States to finalise the purchase of a 300-seater Boeing 777-200LR for Zuma.

The jet would cost $150m (about R1.26bn) and an extra $80m (about R672.5m) to reconfigure.

Also included in the deal was a Global Express 600 costing $28m (R235m) for the deputy president, bringing the total bill to $258m (about R2.17bn).

Sisulu said she would welcome an investigation into the deal by Public Protector Thuli Madonsela, as suggested by Democratic Alliance MP David Maynier.

"In all our actions we always ensure that we receive the right advice before we act. In this matter we received advice from National Treasury, the accountant general and a number of other institutions," Sisulu said.

"We are absolutely convinced that the procurement process we followed is the correct one. Mr Maynier is welcome to report the matter to the public protector."

On Friday, Maynier said he intended asking Madonsela to investigate whether the purchase was warranted.

"If British Prime Minister David Cameron can use British Airways to fly, then Zuma can fly SAA. It is simply wrong to spend R2bn on a presidential jet when so many people in the country are poor. I believe a presidential jet should only be used in exceptional circumstances."

Sisulu is public service and administration minister.

  • Jeanne - 2012-07-02 17:45

    This is sick. Whilst people in the country starve... Let them enjoy the cake and champagne through their leader's lips.

      smili.fication - 2012-07-02 17:51

      What are they flying now? If it's a old plane, then I hold my fingers crossed that it falls from the sky... And... as the DA said; they should use SA Airways and support the SOE that is siphoning money from the taxpayers. Why hasn't COCKSATU criticized this? Doesn't this go against Marxist ideals? Wait, I forgot. COCKSATU never speaks ill of the cANCer whom it's in bed with; destroying our economy, raping our tax money... flying the GravyPlane that serves cake... HOW SAD.! VIVA DA! VIVA COPE!

      Christelle - 2012-07-02 18:07

      But Jeanne, still.....The people will vote for this party who is crippling its own people. When will they wake up???

      oliver.gilbert.33 - 2012-07-02 18:13

      At Smilification , he is flying a BBJ ( Boeing Business Jet ) its the same as the Boeing 737-800 that SAA fly but just a bit shorter and was bought around the same time , so there is nothing wrong with it and should still last a good few years as it will have only the fraction of hours the SAA planes have done .

      carpejugulim - 2012-07-02 18:21

      Somebody gonna share WHY he needs a presidential plane? So many of the people of SA are jobless, homeless, starving and ... the list could go on for a while ... is a new customised jet really necessary? Priorities are so far out of whack it is scarey

      gieljam.gomtor - 2012-07-02 18:34

      Can't believe it coming from her..HOWEVER AGREE AND WITH IMMEDIATE EFFECT

      denise.ryan.5203 - 2012-07-02 19:31

      In 2001 President Thabo Mbeki also bought a new plane at a cost of R600 million rand and had two full SA Air Force crews permanently assigned to it. Apparently this plane, called “Inkwazi” (Fish Eagle) is now “Brôkên”. No surprises there.

      denise.ryan.5203 - 2012-07-02 19:53

      Nqakula as Minister of Home Affairs saw her lurch lethargically from one crisis to another. In 2009 Home Affairs was warned to improve their passport security system or face new visa requirements, as usual the department did NOTHING. Thanks to Nqakula, South Africans are now required to obtain visas to visit the UK.

      Vince.York - 2012-07-02 19:56

      I think they will discover this was written into the zuma anc handbook for perks as part of a fleet of them, soon.

      Koos - 2012-07-03 02:32

      margie, please don't compare the nats with the anc. The nats kept the criminals out of my suburb. They kept terrorists in jail. Look what happened when they let them out?

      grant.hide - 2012-07-03 08:52

      Can't we build our own mud plane?

      mikenortje - 2012-07-03 08:58

      The current Prez Jet (ZS-RSA) Boeing BBJ (Same as a 737 - 700) has just completed it's C-check in Switzerland (at a huge cost - even though SAA could have carried it out at a fraction of the cost and kept the money in SA). It is therefore 100% airworthy and there is no need for a new one, for goodness sake get a grip ANC.

      lerato.kay.3 - 2012-07-03 09:27

      The problem with some objections from the DA is that they are selective and not well detailed. If one is to take the British Prime minister’s travel arrangements as an example, the DA man failed to inform that the British usually charter a flights i.e BA for long distances crossing the Atlantic ocean or flying to Asia or Sub-Saharan Africa. The cost of chartering a big plane are at times prohibitive to such an extent that the British at times use The British Aerospace BAe 125 CC3 or BAe 146 jets, which seat a maximum of six passengers with a hefty cost of (BAe 125: £4,000 and BAe 146: £5,000 per flying hour)! So one can just imagine how much it is to charter a flight. I think a feasibility study must be taken, let’s not judge this transaction by emotions but the most feasible option must carry the day. All I’m saying is the purchase of the jet can prove to be cost effective in the long run if we compare it to capitalised costs of chartering SAA.

      Jellyarse - 2012-07-03 10:01

      Of course they must buy him this jet - why must he lower himself to the level of the downtrodden voter, after all that is all they are good for! Fu*k housing, education, welfare, etc, etc

      Debbie du Plessis - 2013-05-25 11:11

      At any moment Zuma could sign the Secrecy Bill into law -- one of the worst attacks on democracy and free speech since Apartheid. But we can force him to give the courts a final say, saving our free speech rights.

  • Erna - 2012-07-02 17:46

    Suspicious change of tune when it was her initiative in the first place.

      glyn.morgan.96 - 2012-07-02 17:55

      Vote DA! Or if you are not happy with the DA's great record then vote COPE!

      Christelle - 2012-07-02 18:07


  • ingi.raikes - 2012-07-02 17:48

    Sisulu for President!

      ingi.raikes - 2012-07-02 17:51

      Thank God, to purchase that Jet would be the BIGGEST insult to all South Africans, rich or poor!

      tobydt - 2012-07-02 18:40

      Eh, Sisulu is the most incompetent minister we've had since Manto. She was recalled, and now she's angry with Jacob :P

  • glyn.morgan.96 - 2012-07-02 17:53

    They are trying to get out of the purchase without embarrassment. It took the DA to stop this bad idea! Vote DA!

  • provence.poppies - 2012-07-02 17:55

    Appeasing the people in word. The deed will soon be carried out when all is quiet.

  • djim.bie - 2012-07-02 17:55

    Fly SAA.

      keith.f.murphy - 2012-07-02 17:57

      Who ? Do you think tese mafias will fly SAA? these idiots will never do that then the Gods must be crazy

      Sharon - 2012-07-02 19:42

      what happened to that taxi airways,im shure they will fly the zoomer around,they are also zulus so they will understand about his many wives

  • Hermann - 2012-07-02 17:56

    Over kill, over show off and over corrupt - need one say more.

  • rob.tubbs.39 - 2012-07-02 17:58

    Whats wrong Minister - now that you are not 'DEFENCE' have your promised millions 'back hander' for supporting the deal not come to fluition.....?

  • themba.thwala.98 - 2012-07-02 17:58

    I hope the suspension is followed by a cancellation of the deal Minister.

      themba.thwala.98 - 2012-07-02 18:00

      I wonder what the cancellation costs are going to be. Hopefully Zuma will pay for them

  • glyn.morgan.96 - 2012-07-02 17:59

    ""A number of other institutions"? ancyl perhaps? cosatu perhaps? ancwl perhaps?

  • leah.p.lecheko - 2012-07-02 18:03

    I wouldn't really mind this move...only if the education, health, housing and other basic need were being prioritised! Everyday the government gives an assurance that nothing will ever get better here in SA and we the very people that vote are at the receiving end! Can government just for once bring us first? Is that too much to ask for? Do we vote so we can be screwed from the back? \r\n\r\nThis purchase is not a necessity...look around!

      jeffrey.jones.357 - 2012-07-02 19:09

      But you will still vote for them hey!

  • Philip Buys - 2012-07-02 18:04

    Maybe buy a bigggggger more expensive one, complete with two flight deck ships, one for the vaal dam, and one for the gariep dam.

  • grant.chancellormaddison - 2012-07-02 18:09

    Most South Africans are just happy with a hot meal and a roof over there heads ,but not Zuma , he's got to have his own bloody plane to move his massive family around....... And people will still vote for these morons.

      john.lonsdale.5 - 2012-07-02 19:46

      Fleet of panes, don't forget we already have 2 Presidetial jets bought in recent years. But he will definitely become the laughing stock of the free world that pays grants to Africa, as he will ipitomise the thoughts of what a African leader looks like to those given nations, he will probably promote himself to a Field Marshall soon and be adorned with loads of gold braid and self given medals. Sir you are a self serving greedy pig at the tax payers trough. I feed you every month with my hard earned wages. And for what, so you can spit in the eye of the poor and middle class in your bling car. If your organization was majority honest and hard working, we as a nation would have the service delivery that we want and demand, if you and your cronies were hard working and honest we would back and support you. But you won't do that, so I will never support you in your cess pit of self serving wanting cronies. I just wish those poor poor people would give just one other party a chance, I don't care which one, but one that delivers on what it says they will do in there manifesto.

  • given.maake - 2012-07-02 18:13

    Seriously this is getting too much, I just can'nt imagine this being done by a president. If really the ruling party believe that we are coming from a struggle then the resources of this country will be used sparingly. This doesn't prove the previous ruling party wrong,it is just destroying our country more.

  • given.maake - 2012-07-02 18:13

    Seriously this is getting too much, I just can'nt imagine this being done by a president. If really the ruling party believe that we are coming from a struggle then the resources of this country will be used sparingly. This doesn't prove the previous ruling party wrong,it is just destroying our country more.

      Koos - 2012-07-03 02:35

      His actions are more like those of a goat herder don't you think?

  • puse.mabuza - 2012-07-02 18:13

    Suspension i thought cancellation(permanent). What is wrong with the one you have been using so far?

  • Chad - 2012-07-02 18:16

    madonsela is a lame duck, lets get her a job at the icc

  • sika.ncamane - 2012-07-02 18:18

    The Minister is missing the point it's not about whether the process was followed or not. Its about spending so much money on a Presidential jet when so many people are poor, when pupils don't have books and when the is so much lack of service delivery. If the government was delivering there would not be a public out cry. Think about the people you serve first.

  • sizwe.bwana - 2012-07-02 18:23

    Beggars at every traffic light but we need a 300 seater jet for the boss. Makes one want to puke. Should not have been contemplated in the first place. Good that something being done to stop it.

  • wendy.bertuolo - 2012-07-02 18:26

    Please can someone tell me why he needs a 300 seater plane? Not even his family is that big!

      gieljam.gomtor - 2012-07-02 18:54

      The actual rise in the prize was for the enlarged roof carrier and extra toilets on the outside.

      Sharon - 2012-07-02 19:45

      @ wendy, give him time he is working on it

      khayalethu.mgoqi - 2012-07-02 19:53


      Koos - 2012-07-03 02:37

      He needs the plane to be big enough to accomodate his family and pet goat when the masses turn on their masters. It is only a matter of time.

  • luvo.luvos - 2012-07-02 18:30

    Of all the dumb things Zuma has ever done, this one takes the cake. How does he justify blatant luxury in the face of the majority who are surrounded by pools of raw sewage and who get told that there's no budget to fix it up. Whoever votes for his next term needs to be admitted to a mental facility.

  • ruben.maistry - 2012-07-02 18:33

    It is sad for the anc to sanction the purchase. Would someone please quantify what such a sum of money would do for the poorest of the poor. Absolutely sickening.People of South Africa, wake up and see what these thieves are doing to our country.

  • msaka.lekhosi - 2012-07-02 18:34

    Whenever Thuli Madonsela speaks, unworthy President trembles. Let her say something

  • tobydt - 2012-07-02 18:38

    Whatever happened to Mbeki's jet? That one cost us R1.6 billion. Do we buy a new jet for every president?

      mikenortje - 2012-07-03 09:05

      The current Prez Jet (ZS-RSA) Boeing BBJ (Same as a 737 - 700) has just completed it's C-check in Switzerland (at a huge cost - even though SAA could have carried it out at a fraction of the cost and kept the money in SA). It is therefore 100% airworthy and there is no need for a new one, for goodness sake get a grip ANC.

  • samgaf - 2012-07-02 18:39

    Dumm asses,keep the flippin jet,suspend ????

  • maseratifittipaldi - 2012-07-02 18:41

    We tried to do it under the radar. Unfortunately we were caught out.(Now why did he have to go and appoint someone else at this particular point in time?!) We will say that we will not go ahead, but of course we will. Take that! You peasants!

  • loyiso.mdingwa - 2012-07-02 18:48

    Why are we spending so much money for one person? I know He is our president,but this is too much when we consider the state of our economy! ! !

  • Tilt777 - 2012-07-02 18:48

    Fly SAA or nothing Mr President and the rest

  • Mike Peach Purchase - 2012-07-02 18:48

    And the hole they are digging for themselves gets bigger and bigger,use your vote people.

  • pieriewaaier.zooms - 2012-07-02 18:48

    OMG! Here's a thing coming brothas & sistas! Two points (i) I think the good lady has got her knife in for old showerhead and good for her. She's from a credible ANC family and he's a corrupted upstart hell bent on proteting himself against prosecution for the arms deal; to get re-elected because that will afford him additional protection and give him more time to rake in a few more R-millions for him and his corrupt family. So, good for her albeit a bit late! (ii) Question though is why has she with the condonation of Pravin Gordhan agreed to spend R2+-billion on a luxury that RSA cannot afford? Why did she think it OK when she was minister of defence to agree to and actually set in motion the purchase which is a slap in the face of all South Africans? We are tightening our expenditure and it's tough; why not the showerhead and his corrupt cronies in government? And why was she party to this abomination? And why this what now appears to be an excuse of a minister of finance who continues to preach to us whenever he has the chance. He's a jelly-necked whimp kowtowing to an illiterate, it appears. Have lost my respect for him now where previoulsy I thought he was good and honest but obvioulsy I was wrong!If Zuma buys this Boeing and the other 1 for the VP all South Africans must unite and & get rid of this embarrassment of a president! Time to act and Sisulu started it. Ball in Zuma's court but changes that he'll do the right thing is just about zero!

      khayalethu.mgoqi - 2012-07-02 20:03


  • savannah.theron - 2012-07-02 18:50

    Sorry, did I miss something? Why the sudden concern about expenditure of the taxpayers money? Oh ja, I forgot, it's time for the election circus with all the lies and phony promises...scuse me, I'm going to be sick.

      keith.f.murphy - 2012-07-02 21:29

      Savannah thats a damn brainless idiot dont even waste your time to comment on him your computer might catch a virus

  • thenga.pfananani - 2012-07-02 19:00

    R2b luxury jet 4 the president who doesn't even know what he is doing bt 2 sung nonsense, in the expense of the poor and unemployed people the Anc wil face the music 1day!

  • chikunga - 2012-07-02 19:02

    n have you ever wondered how much the airforce one actually might not like Zuma or ANC but he is the president of South Africa and that means your president too and should be treated as such.

      Roulon du Toit - 2012-07-02 19:14

      Have you compared the size of the United States with South Africa? Does the United States have as many homeless persons? You get the benefits when you deserve them, not when you have illusions of grandeur

      Sharon - 2012-07-02 19:48

      haai wena

      shaylene.stenger - 2012-07-02 19:58

      This is South Africa not the States, they don't have such a high unemployment rate, crime rate, poor service delivery, starving people that's the difference!!!

      tobydt - 2012-07-02 20:02

      America's GDP is 20x bigger than South Africa's. Let Jacob get the economy to that size before getting his own "Airforce one".

      Nicolaas - 2012-07-02 21:18

      @Chikunga, i would rather die a stupid death than acknowledge such an idiot as my president. My 5 yr ols grand daughter has more brains than the whole ALL NATIONAL CRIMINAL PARTY and all their suppotas together! I never voted for this stupid of an excuse of a human being as president and never will! It is uneducated rubbish like you that will rather starve to death because of your corrupt ALL NATIONAL CRIMINAL PARTY support instead of supporting a party that actually do care about the poor, irrespective of skin color, but as they say, you can lead the horse to the water but cannot force him to drink!

      downwiththeANC - 2012-07-02 22:30

      Zoomer aint my president, i did not vote for showerhead. Helen Zille is president !

      louwc - 2012-07-03 01:44

      Don’t even begin to compare the president of SA to that of the USA! It will only show that given the opportunity you would like to be Bob Mugabe whose motor cavalcade kills innocent people because they don’t get off the road fast enough. He is the president after all! I don’t treat someone well because they are the president, I treat them well because they care about the poor, don’t line their pockets and don’t make a mockery of the country I live in and am supposed to be loyal to! X amount of wives, children legitimate and illegitimate, scandals around arms deals, rape, etc. Why did it take so long to sort off deal with Malema? The ANC need the vote of the young, uneducated, poor black population. So feed them promises and lies while you burn their school books and don’t deliver what they need. Buy an R2bn plane that could have provided 120 meals each to every single unemployed person in South Africa. The war “veterans” that took over farms in Zim were on average 30 years old, they were either not born yet or were in diapers when that country won their independence. Veterans! Ha! The government is waking up a very dangerous monster. It is called the disillusioned, poor, left-out-to-dry masses! They are riding the tiger, which is exiting for them at the moment, they must be careful they don’t fall off cause the hungry tiger will eat the country! We need people like Madonsela, De Lille and a bunch of others that I can list, to stop us going down the same route!

      chikunga - 2012-07-05 10:51

      Airforce one uses $145 000 per hour in 10hours thats $1 450 000 and thats translate to about R12 mil and zuma buys a $235 294 117 presidential plane and you all cry argue that, USA is a superpower but the Airforce one is 3 or more times the cost of what zuma is planning to buy.but my point is He is our president and you cant be out to just demonise him on every corner.its just like every white is trying to demonise obama for travelling costs but forgetting tht he hasnt surpassed what Bush let alone the great traveller Clinton has done.this is more than about zuma being the president but about zuma being a black president

  • Eugene - 2012-07-02 19:09

    Majority of voters cannot read.... looks like the ANC wants to keep it that way if you look at the current / ongoing crisis in the education system.

  • hemmo.ligthelm - 2012-07-02 19:10

    A Good idea to get our president a proper jet. No reasonable citizen can wish for the president's jet to fall from the sky. Shame on you for wishing that. People do not starve in South Africa.... Come on, this is a fantastic place.

      shaylene.stenger - 2012-07-02 19:53

      I'm hoping you are being sarcastic....

  • khayalethu.mgoqi - 2012-07-02 19:16

    yes I like that phraise from CC Lindiwe Sisulu noting; if DAVID Cameron a british prime minister fly with british air ways; then SA president must fly with SA AIR WAYS' AS that will hev a negative impact on our economy. this is unnecessary wastage with voters tax and the public protector must scrutinise this effectively our country is facing a rampage now ,

      Wally Walters - 2012-07-02 21:38

      if zuma goes what happens to the jet does his wives get it

  • Comfido Nziyane - 2012-07-02 19:19

    How can this be done, while south africa as a whole we experiencing tough economic times, if they the anc was clever enough they would invest that money which within the next few years could create employment for some south africans, how special is zuma nd motlantle? im a proud nd firm supporter of the anc but realy this is getting way out of line, whats up with zuma basically, the anc just married another wife for zuma with our tax money the second time in his ruling, they have used R64 million for the renovation of wife his wives rondavels, he now wants a jet, no ways in his dreams. now public servants wants an increase but sisulu is refusing to accept the offer, just a mere 8%, but them in parliament get 80% increases, higher allowances, fancy cars, fancy houses, higher housing allowances, MEMBERS OF PARLIAMENT ARE ABUSING THEIR AUTHORITY. they dont care about the poor, but they are public servant, what happened to batho pele pronciples.

      Bless Boswell - 2012-07-03 07:47

      Batho pele principles were just election speak - something that is said to gain favour of the electorate. Many HDIs still believe they will receive houses, cars, farms, mines etc. well, we are now 18 years into ANC dictatorship and they have still not been dispensed to the people - but look at the lifestyle of the politicians, they have those things... So if you keep voting them in, they will continue to have them. Not you.

  • sisa.mtwana - 2012-07-02 19:29

    After the president finish his term in office ,who is going to pay for the maintenance of this plane .A 777 Boeing 300 seater is not a small plane.

      Bless Boswell - 2012-07-03 07:39

      We, the people will be expected to pay of course.

  • Muffin_man_can - 2012-07-02 19:36

    All this merely shows where the leaders of this country's priorities lie, and that they could not really give a damn about reducing poverty.

      Bless Boswell - 2012-07-03 07:39

      Oh, they do give a damn about reducing poverty - their own! That is clear for all to see. They ignore it and continue to demand new monies - higher property rates, higher Eskom rates and we must pay or have no services.

  • Muffin_man_can - 2012-07-02 19:38

    All this merely shows where the leaders of this country's priorities lie, and that they could not really give a damn about reducing poverty.

  • shaylene.stenger - 2012-07-02 19:50

    Yup while thousands starve, thousands unemployed, hundreds of schools need textbooks and new classrooms, hundreds of hospitals need new equipment, our police need more vehicles, new prisons need to be buildt, food prices continue to escalate, people need houses and so on and so on. Yet once again our tax money is used on something not needed and gets mis used by the anc for their own benefit....

      zamani.yende - 2012-07-02 20:40

      so every anc president is selfish, nobody wil care about us.

  • ThaboShakuNews24 - 2012-07-02 19:58

    What happened to "presidential modesty"

      pieriewaaier.zooms - 2012-07-02 20:00

      Good question my friend but I for one haven't seen much of that lately.

  • belinda.west.543 - 2012-07-02 20:14

    Well it's about TIME someone with some clout stood up and DID something!! Give that woman a Bells!!!

  • Johan De Beer - 2012-07-02 20:40

    Last week they said that no such deal was on the cards? Huh?

  • mlungisi.crush - 2012-07-02 20:46

    Please Mr President use a BOAT to cruise around the world and a CARMEL around the country,You read very SLOWLY,PLS CRUISE around more SLOWER!!!!!!! Do the books in Limpopo also NEED a private Jet to be deliverd???????????

  • Steven Trollip - 2012-07-02 20:46

    Sorry Raphile (Ninja Turtel)

  • renier.lubbe.7 - 2012-07-02 21:13

    I am sure most citizens cannot picture how much money is R 2bn (I am one). The dictionary (Pharos SA) describes it as a million million. Therefore R 2bn = R 2 000 000 000 000-00. A lot can be done for the poor with that kind of money! If I am wrong kindly give the correct figure - Any one?

      Blackmista White Whitemista Black - 2012-07-02 21:28

      Thank you Lindiwe Sisulu, why do we need to buy this aircraft..will the president live in it or is it an extension of the presidential city he built in Nkandla. Get a life showerhead start thinking of the people dammit

      Keshlen Reddy - 2012-07-02 22:01

      yes actually a million is thousand thousand and a billion is a thousand million. its a load of currency that. assuming a RDP home costs R50000. with that money, the pres can build 40000 homes. eat that Mr Prez

      rob.bayliss.94 - 2012-07-02 22:11

      The answer is both 1,000,000,000 and 1,000,000,000,000! Crazy as it obviously is, it depends on where you are with continental Europe favouring the bigger number. The UK changed to align with the US using the smaller number around 1980...but there is still a deal of confusion. The now outmoded term for 1,000,000,000 is/was milliard, but that obviously proved to difficult to differentiate from million!

      renier.lubbe.7 - 2012-07-02 22:34

      Thanks! I suppose that is why governments use the term billion, it doesn't sound so bad.

  • BulletProof. - 2012-07-02 21:25

    Also included in the deal was a Global Express 600 costing $28m (R235m) for the deputy president, bringing the total bill to $258m (about R2.17bn). WHY RECONFIGURE, DOES HE FLYES IF NOT RECONFIGURED???? Or, they going to use bombs on the wings.

      Bless Boswell - 2012-07-03 07:33

      Just a guess: maybe he got them to pull out seats to make more legroom, maybe he had a hospital installed, maybe a bigger galley - so he can eat more, maybe a nice big bed, that he can share with all his wives ... Who cares? It's an absolute criminal waste of public funds.

  • comzarista - 2012-07-02 21:33

    It cant be.THIS PRESIDENT THINKS govt. is a mining company. HE IS CURRENTLY DEVELOPING HIS HOMETOWN ,FINANCING HIS WIVES NOW THIS.electing him was the dumbest thing ANC has ever done. Cant wait to c him gone

  • rob.bayliss.94 - 2012-07-02 21:39

    Hold on a needs to consider exactly why the Pres and Co do not want to fly there something that we should all know about? Whatever anyone says about the airline's safety record the example set by Pres and Co certainly puts a question.