TAU SA worries over Constitution claims

2011-09-21 20:34

Johannesburg - Food shortages will be the first consequence if the ANC changed the Constitution for the sake of land reform, farmers' union TAU SA said on Wednesday.

"TAU SA is shocked by the announcement of the Minister of Rural Development and Land Reform Gugile Nkwinti that government is willing to amend the Constitution for the sake of land reform."

TAU SA president Louis Meintjies said contradictory messages on land reform were being sent out, but with a single outcome - land expropriation.

Several processes were currently running to discuss a green paper which proposed measures for land reform.

Meintjies said re-opening land claims, combined with a change of the Constitution, could result in farmers losing land to unsubstantiated land claims.

Changing the Constitution to forcefully introduce land reform would be the end of the free market system. Meintjies said this would put South Africa on the road to socialism in its ultimate form, namely communism.

One of the first consequences of this would be food shortages.

The statement followed a report that the African National Congress would change the Constitution if necessary.

Nkwinti told a parliamentary portfolio committee on Tuesday: "The Constitution has to help the community to advance. If advancement gets stalled then the Constitution has to be changed."

While emphasising the debate was purely exploratory, Nkwinti said discussions around land reform and restitution needed to be re-opened.

The focus of government policy after 1994 was on reconciliation, rather than equality and fixing the wrongs of the apartheid era. This was the correct policy, but the government was dealing with a ticking time bomb if these wrongs were not set right.

"If necessary we will alter the Constitution to reach our goals," he said.

  • ¤¤¤¤¤¤¤ - 2011-09-21 20:51

    They are absolutely adamant on destroying this country. One way or the other, come hell or high water - this country, along with its infrastructure and its economy, MUST be demolished. It's the only way they can ensure long-term international aid - i.e., money for nothing. I can think of no other reason.

      iqanda - 2011-09-21 21:22

      Today, the mines and farms are in the hands of BEE companies/individuals and are being plundered for scrap metal. As the blacks are being more and more impoverished by their ANC masters and South Africa driven into a starving Zimbabwe like state, the day will still come that Blacks will miss and long back for Apartheid. Nevertheless, those who have let the genie out of the bottle will have to put him back again.

      Eugene - 2011-09-21 21:48

      "Land reform", "Nationalisation" This is stuff they already said 50 years ago.

      Pupuzela - 2011-09-22 08:43

      Folks, look at the bigger picture. It’s got nothing to do with redistributing agricultural land to black people. They just want Whites OFF the land. They don’t like us and are screwing us over everywhere, i.e. BEE, AA etc. Shall I sing you a favourite song of theirs to emphasize my point?

  • Vela Stardust - 2011-09-21 20:54

    Another ANC policy failure in the making. Farming land should only be available to people who have graduated from Agricultural Colleges and have 5 years farming experience post grad. Who in their right mind wants to mess around with food security? Remember Nongqawuse's vision anyone?

      Eugene - 2011-09-21 21:51

      Read their old documents and you'll get a clue.

      Vela Stardust - 2011-09-21 22:39

      "He who works his land will have abundant food, but the one who chases fantasies will have his fill of poverty." Proverbs 28:19

  • rasklot - 2011-09-21 20:56

    Animal Farm

  • Gomez - 2011-09-21 20:56

    Robert Mugabe also cried about land this and land that,that needed to go pack to the people...I do not know what the so called people actually got after he forced the whites of their farms but we all know that mr mugabe now owns 35 will see the same thing here in sa.The poor will see it.I hope if that happens that will be the final straw and they take their vote to the DA but one can only hope for the vote,the other thing is a done deal.

  • tootingdel - 2011-09-21 21:00

    Those wanting land are not intersting in helping people who might need it but just want to get their own hands on it. For what? They will do nothing with the land - workers will be laid off; production will fall off and the desires of those alledged supporting the plans will not be met. And the rest suffer from food shortages, higher prices and unrest. Haven't we all see it happen before only a few kms north? Given the result there I can only beleive that those in favor just want to grab some land for their own purposes - not to help the poor or to improve food security

  • Maiavan - 2011-09-21 21:03

    There is so much land available but its the structure they want not the land or a piece of land in bapsfontein would do just as well. Why on earth do they think we just got the land? My piece of land is owned by Standard Bank, I sure as hell dont own it - I am paying for it monthly!

      rasklot - 2011-09-21 22:50

      So, the best idea would be to mortgage the land you own to the hilt on an access bond if they come for it, and then when they see they have to settle the bank at its payoff value, they will leave you alone. You may have a write off of interest during that period if its an active farm? Just a thought...

  • Angel - 2011-09-21 21:07

    I wish I could understand why African governments are so adament to destroy African countries! What makes the ANC think the result here will be any different to the outcome in the rest of Africa? Is it only a few of us that see the same path being followed? Africa for the Africans, a totally destroyed Africa! The culture of "I want", "gimme", etc. Does not matter if I screw everything up for everyone else as well, I WANT!

      Steve Wonderboy - 2011-09-21 21:41

      This is my view on what is happening. Africans and African governments see the world from a completely different outlook than others. No use getting angry at them, they just don't know any better. The only cure is education and time. You could forcefully implement change, but it would not last. Afterwards they will only resent you for taking away their "freedom", as in freedom to live a life of suffering. Other problem is that absolute power corrupts absolutely. Once they've had a taste of it the will rather die than give it up. That is why you get "president for life" on this continent.

      Angel - 2011-09-21 21:57

      Steve Wonderboy - One would think they would hide the begging bowl after they have f...cked up but no, good time to demand money and help, the terrible west. Freedom to suffer and starve yes, time to ignore the way of Africa is over.

  • fraidycat - 2011-09-21 21:34

    Yes, land reform is necessary - but not at the cost of food security. We cannot afford to import all our food, we will be even further impoverished due to higher prices. Why can the existing commercial farmers not be used to train and sponsor prospective black farmers, in a kind of win-win deal? NO, it is easier to expropriate like the barbarians in Zim, which was once the breadbasket of Africa. Now Zim is just another basketcase.

  • crackerr - 2011-09-21 21:35

    @ TAU SA Where are you when the arguments about land reform etc rage on these and other forums? You lot leave it to others to put the arguments against what we know will be disastrous for this country. Not good enough. You people are supposed to have the facts handy. Why don't you have your people arguing the points on this and other forums? Too comfortable in your little nests?

      Eugene - 2011-09-21 21:52

      Go visit their web site. Or perhaps you want to volunteer for what you just demanded?

      crackerr - 2011-09-21 22:17

      @ Eugene @ Eugene The battle is not taking place on their web site.

      crackerr - 2011-09-21 22:24

      @ Eugene I am not in the least interested in volunteering. But maybe I have now made them aware of a huge short coming. The general readership of these and other forums (excepting of course the web site you refer to) are not likely to visit the mentioned web site. I am not making demands either. I am simply saying. Moet die boere soms so lui wees?

      ¤¤¤¤¤¤¤ - 2011-09-22 00:23

      @crackerr "I am not in the least interested in volunteering" and then a few sentences later, "Moet die boere soms so lui wees?". Am I missing something? You're bemoaning the lack of action from a community you are a member of, yet you astutely proclaim your own unwillingness to the same breath. Perhaps consider the fact that they are really busy, and could do well with a little help...for example, from you.

  • fraidycat - 2011-09-21 21:40

    Will taking commercial land away from white farmers, be as "successful" as the Aurora debacle? This is non-sensical, 30% black farmers have already sold their appropriated farms back to the original white farmers. Having land will mean NOTHING if it lies fallow and dead. We desperately need commercial farmers to produce healthy crops for the millions of kids born due to the governments social grants system!

      Eugene - 2011-09-21 21:53

      Hahahaa. It will be successful in solving problems with overpopulation.

  • Zandisiwe - 2011-09-21 21:55

    i think i agree with Vela, i think if they want to adopt that approach, they should first try to encourage pleople to take agricultural studies...farming is a skill, then some years down the line revisit this conundrum issue

      André Swanepoel - 2011-09-21 23:02

      You cannot create farmers- most farmers were raised on the very same farms - farmers are taught from birth = lifelong experience = succesful farmer

  • André Swanepoel - 2011-09-21 22:56

    It must be quite obvious by now - hungry people eventually cause anarchy - the "African Agenda" our friend JM is pushing - the forcefull removal of farmers from their farms - makes you wonder ????

  • WarDog - 2011-09-22 07:43

    For those of you out there who are about to make money and walk all over your starving people, I have seen you coming for some time. For the vast majority who will sit on the side of the road dying of hunger, I don’t know you but what I do know is you brought this on yourselves. I will drive by on my way to buy groceries, I will see you on your knees at the side of the road and I will think “Poor Africans, haven’t they learnt anything?” Then I will turn my face away from you and make like you don’t exist just like your black diamonds.

  • GuyverXT9 - 2011-09-22 07:55

    It's time for Joe Average to start growing his own staple vegetables. While the ANC voters starve, those of us who thought ahead would at least survive this atrocity.

      Spookhuis - 2011-09-22 08:10

      Ja, until your lazy neighbor comes and steals it in the dead of night.

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