Textbook debacle: Will be consequences, says Zuma

2012-07-03 22:41

Johannesburg - President Jacob Zuma met Basic Education Minister Angie Motshekga over the late delivery of textbooks in Limpopo on Tuesday, the presidency said.

"Minister Motshekga explained to the president it was only in May that orders for textbooks could be placed with the publishers," spokesperson Mac Maharaj said in a statement.

This was because the Limpopo education department and four other provincial departments had been put under national administration.

This made matters "very complex" as there was no legislation to regulate the interventions.

Zuma asked the presidency and the department of co-operative governance to prioritise filling this legislative gap.

"The president also directed that while the legislation is being finalised, a special protocol must be developed to manage relations between the spheres and ensure that service delivery is not affected."

"When... [this] intervention was introduced... Limpopo had serious cash flow problems, which had serious ramifications for key basic education deliverables, such as the procurement and delivery of textbooks."

The textbooks would usually have been paid for out of the 2011/12 budget, but due to "poor financial and human resource management and planning" there was no money left to pay for the textbooks.

"The minister has apologised unequivocally for the delays on delivery of the text books to Grades 1 to 3 and 10," Maharaj said.

Motshekga said that some schools had received textbooks and therefore it was incorrect to suggest that no learning was possible in the province.

For example, literacy and numeracy workbooks for Grades 1 to 9 were delivered on time.

"In addition, readers of the previous year and other resource materials could be used, as teachers were trained on where there was a deviation from the previous syllabus."

All Grade 10 pupils received mathematics and science textbooks on time too.

On reports that textbooks were dumped for disposal, Zuma told Motshekga that it was unacceptable for service providers or officials to destroy limited and precious education resources like books.

"The president appreciated the fact that the minister has instructed the department to take action against the perpetrators," Maharaj said.

Maharaj said Zuma directed the department of basic education to complete the textbook deliveries, and work with the treasury and provincial government to make sure textbooks were delivered in time next year.

Zuma said those found to be responsible for the textbook delivery delay would face "consequences".

  • CapeChappy - 2012-07-03 22:48

    First step is to have someone explain what "consequences" mean, what with not being part of an ANC vocabulary and all..

      CapeChappy - 2012-07-03 23:04

      Here's a suggestion - get rid of the R2 billion aeroplane and rather use the money to buy textbooks and houses for the people you've been promising to help for 18 years.

      Press - 2012-07-03 23:20

      def. "Consequences" - Suspension on three years full salary, eventual loss of police documments and subsequent promotion to the next salary level.

      jack.milosevic - 2012-07-04 00:15


      Koos - 2012-07-04 01:43

      'no legislation to regulate' the looting of state coffers but it is done anyway.

      mthetheleli.ntshobololo.1 - 2012-07-04 01:49

      President has fired ministers b4, lets hope for consistency

      sedick.gydien - 2012-07-04 02:08

      AND, does "poor financial and human resource management and planning" mean theft and corruption? Other provinces did not seem to suffer from the same......

      john.bucknall.1 - 2012-07-04 02:49

      Define consequences: She'll get the spear!

      Walter - 2012-07-04 06:06

      "Consequences" is the cancer growing throughout the ANC government administration and people, literate and illiterate, must learn to vote with their heads. The cancer is spreading except in the Cape Province. VOTE DA and a miracle drug for the cancer will be found and the recovery will start! EUREKA! The masses will rush to be cured.... by voting with their heads and not their eyes which can only see black at present.

      ian.flack2 - 2012-07-04 07:15

      This is what happens when you politise the government civil service by awarding jobs to cardries instead of having a non-political, professional civil service that could run regardless of which party is power.

      chequ.checked - 2012-07-04 07:51

      What was the other option Zuma, give them a chocolate!!!! Is this government for real or what...that job is as easy as delivering the morning paper and these idiots cannot even get that right....

      badballie - 2012-07-04 11:19

      he will be suspended on full pay for a couple of years until someone points out he is still receiving a salary and pension, and them he will be redeployed to which ever department is doing the best at service delivery, cause we can't be having any of that.

      christopher.columbus.3950178 - 2012-07-04 11:38

      @ Jack...The present Governement has taking over the past government in crime, murders,"Affirmative Action" (racism)already. I am over their blame apartheid. At least we would have brought ourselves out of the sh*t that the anc has put this country in. But it is the other way around now, with affirnmative action and BE BbEEE bbbbeeee shi*t, and they still want us to support their lazy kind! Not me!

      gerhard.kress.3 - 2012-07-04 13:00

      We don't need any more explanations after the fact. When will the government be doing things right from the start???

      Nicolaas - 2012-07-04 13:25

      @CapeChappy, consequences in the ALL NATIONAL CRIMINAL PARTY means, a promotion to another f@cked up department, 300% salary increase or a golden handshake worth millions on the condition that you do not tell that we have stolen millions in kickbacks by by-passing the tender process and award the tender to incompetant buddies of us! Hope this explains it all!

  • ted.muusha - 2012-07-03 22:55

    Where is the Limpopo's Premier in all this?

      Press - 2012-07-03 23:23

      Somewhere busy writing a revolutionary strategy for the ANC - the second coming - just nationalise everything in a radical policy shift and complete the grand theft in one go.

      chriswesley.perumal - 2012-07-04 06:03

      He is too busy stealing to worry about minor things like education for those they want to keep uneducatede

      Gary - 2012-07-04 07:30

      and also, why were books only ordered in MAY? Books should be ready at the beginning of the year, not in the middle of the year.

  • Tommo - 2012-07-03 22:56

    The most serious consequences of course are for the thousands of small kiddies with no books. I remember how I loved all my school books. How do they feel I wonder? Unloved. Not important?

      vince.vanrooyen.1 - 2012-07-04 05:54

      Whoever gave Tommo "thumbs down" are as thick as the Minister of Basic Education!

      vince.vanrooyen.1 - 2012-07-04 06:57

      @Thebigguyjim, are we talking about the 60's or about today? Tommo's statement was about the kids of today and how badly they are being treated.

      WimpieN - 2012-07-04 07:46

      Spot on Tommo. I think the ANC calls a classroom full of uneducated kids "voters".

      jeeves.eddings - 2012-07-04 12:36

      We don't need books anymore!

  • sharon.erwin.96 - 2012-07-03 23:03

    What consequences? A promotion and fat salary increase? That is how it has worked in the past, why would it be different this time?

      scebberish.umfazi - 2012-07-04 04:42

      We all know how Procurement works in South Africa! You decide you want something (rather than need it, if its something the people need rather than you, then no need to deliver the goods, only the invoice) so you call the supplier, who just so happenes to be a member of your family. You state what it is you want from them, tell them to up the price by 100%, of which they get to keep 25%, you get the remaining 75% of which you keep 50% and share the other 25% with you "Cadres" who will sign off on your "Procurement". Of course they all sign off as they know you will return the favour when their turn to "Procure" something comes around.

  • bob.small.7547 - 2012-07-03 23:08

    Dysfunctional from the top down..! They just do not have the acumen to govern ethically in any shape or form.

  • lungile.ndyibithi - 2012-07-03 23:12

    All talk n no action

  • theo.schoeman.71 - 2012-07-03 23:13

    No matter how they debate this issue, fact remains that after the current school holiday 3/4 of the shool year have past with children without text books. Pathetic ... all of them rsponsible

  • Lindelwa - 2012-07-03 23:26

    Zuma must start with himself, he is as useles as Angie and all the cadre deployees. There should be consequences for his corrupotion too!!

  • indianajohn - 2012-07-03 23:48

    Those aren't excuses! This was all brought about by THEMSELVES! You can't blame something YOU DID last year for something YOU can't do this year. For goodness sake it's f*ckin unbelievable.

  • braamc - 2012-07-03 23:57

    Cash flow problems, yeah, billion of tax payers money wasted and stole, non existent service delivery in all spheres. What a f*&cken waste of time is the ANC, useless

      schalk.mattheys - 2012-07-04 08:51

      Its insane! And still decisions regarding 2 Billion rand Jets were being made when whilst "Limpopo had serious cash flow problems" The South African citizen gets one chance every four years to make a choice, lets see how many buckets of KFC its will take to make these learners parents forget that their children have a permanent handicap of being 1 year behind because of Zuma's total disregard for the future of South Africa.

  • sally.lewitt - 2012-07-04 00:39

    This is an absolute Disgrace with NO regard what so ever to the poorest of the poor. This debacle will be carried for life and the real victims are the children.. Yet government can spend billions on LESS important things and to think these kids ARE our future.. \r\nI hope all the HEADS will really role on this one!! FFS!

      carpejugulim - 2012-07-04 06:02

      Like R40 billion on a conference and they wind up throwing water bottles and boxing with each other like kids on a play ground

  • tshifhiwap1 - 2012-07-04 00:45

    Tok s cheap,He xud start wit his nephew Khulubusi,wu failed 2 pay workers,Deir families r starvin,N he xud do d country a favour n nt avail himself 2 b elected again in mangaung,in d mintym he xud fire Angie, He only cares bout kzn only.

      Hlumela Mlombi - 2012-07-04 01:39

      thank you very much tsha..ur spot on!!there's no possible justification for this hogum!

  • Gerry Klos - 2012-07-04 00:59

    Zuma says there will be consequences? He hasn't got the balls. Oh sorry I forgot, he has a shower, maybe that is what the consequences are. What a whimp!!!!

  • louwc - 2012-07-04 01:45

    I have time on my hands, give me the R2Bn and i will deliver at least R100M worth of books...

  • Marius Koen - 2012-07-04 02:03

    "poor financial and human resource management and planning" So the money has been stolen. Big FAIL, ANC.

  • Heibrin - 2012-07-04 02:28

    So let's see... January, February, March, April... that's four months in which they knew there is a problem. Why not address it as soon as it was known??

      scouter.fourone - 2012-07-04 08:41

      Because this is Africa ....

  • sizwe.bwana - 2012-07-04 02:33

    And ANCYL says................Nothing!!!!

      chriswesley.perumal - 2012-07-04 06:08

      Need to call a press conference to get their opinion as those okes cant write so lekker or read for that matter

      melvine.accountec - 2012-07-04 07:17

      Good point buddy!

      TheyTookMyNickLaZynEko - 2012-07-04 07:44

      oh my word don't expect anything good from them.

  • Bless Boswell - 2012-07-04 02:39

    If Cassel Mothala hadn't swiped the province's funds this mess would not have happened!

  • chadjason.wilson - 2012-07-04 02:54

    the basic education and higher education were split into separate functions by the presidency to improve service delivery..... thus he should face the consquences. Can you imagine a CEO standing in front of the shareholders and saying... "Yes I picked my team...... Ah, my job, monitor their performance..... I don't no what went wrong.... Don't worry I will find a scape goat....". Wish he worked as the CEO for Baclays Bank, then the world could see what a joke Zuma really is!!!!"

  • Ntuthuko M Simelane - 2012-07-04 05:02

    How can a man who didn't see much of school himself, see any urgency in this matter? why did he take so long to speak out?

      Bois-Tête - 2012-07-04 05:08

      . . . . because of his second coming. He is The Spear after all.

      themba.thwala.98 - 2012-07-04 06:07

      He was still waiting for his speech writer to write down what he should read out. It's going to take another eternity while he ”applies” his mind as Mac Maharaj will be saying after a few months

  • trevor.pietersen.3 - 2012-07-04 05:06 where is the ANCYL...for the learners??????

  • charmaine.paterson1 - 2012-07-04 05:52

    Neither Zuma or Motshekga have the decency to accept responsibility. They speak in generalities and when these little grade 1 learners fail to complete school it will be the legacy of apartheid which is blamed. These two are no better than any architect of apartheid, shame on them.

  • tobydt - 2012-07-04 05:56

    Some people are born great. Some people achieve greatness. And some people are born in Limpopo :P

  • LucioC - 2012-07-04 06:04

    Fantastic Mr President, but should have never happened in the first place and you simply have no excuse as the ultimate responsibility in the land..I I ask you one honest question on behalf of the poorest of the poor, what has gone wrong in the last ten years, but sadly you will not or can not ever tell us can you. Many of us do know, but dont keep the rest or the poorest of the poor uneducated, so that all in government can continue in its evil ways, for that too will come to and end when there is no more South Africa to give to its people, which will not be long after many would have left SA. So please for the sake South Africa and the poorest of the poor, please leave the position you hold for the sake of the very people you claim to have sleepless nights over,

  • breinlekkasie.dodelikegif - 2012-07-04 06:30

    The province has been under administration since 5 December 2011. Where is Limpopo's budget drafted shortly after the province was put under administration?

  • gregory.wellsclifton - 2012-07-04 06:32

    No budget left! To educate? Are you more stupid than we thought Zuma? But jets can be paid for to shadow your frequent trips abroad. Money is stolen probably as often as rapes occur in the country. Money is squandered constantly. ANC bashes costing millions are held. No money to pay for text books? A laugh a minute if it weren't so sad. And all we hear is excuse after excuse. Useless, ignorant, incompetent buffoons!!!! Shame on you all

  • mapepaki - 2012-07-04 06:38

    Mr President check with Mr Vavi first before charging the person/s responsible.

  • vivian.harris.73 - 2012-07-04 06:42

    Orders could only be placed in May?! When do schools start in that area? If she knew that then why not make another plan to get those kids books?

  • juno33 - 2012-07-04 07:11

    Consequences i.e. Vacation oops suspension with full pay, while the investigation goes on for years... Thnk you Mr President!

  • ashwin.leckram - 2012-07-04 07:13

    yep. there will be consequences. They will be promoted because they still have a lot to offer.

  • ian.flack2 - 2012-07-04 07:13

    "For example, literacy and numeracy workbooks for Grades 1 to 9 were delivered on time"...........No they weren't, they were six months late. However, they were delivered by the court order date!

  • tshivhombelaf - 2012-07-04 07:15

    I hope it's not going to be reshuffling as usual. I don't regard golden handshakes and reshuffling as consequences.

  • lloyd.lucas.545 - 2012-07-04 07:16

    Probably a promotion. At the very least a golden handshake.

  • hein.helmand - 2012-07-04 07:16

    AFTER 6 MONTHS.JAN, FEB.MARCH,APRIL,MAY JUNE All these months \Is not me,its you\ Get me involved ill help. Eish

  • jonathan.seagul.5 - 2012-07-04 07:17

    I was involved in the distribution of text books to schools in KZN for the past 2 years. It is hard work traveling over bad roads but there is nothing diffult about it. They need to get off their lazy fat asses and do the job. There is no excuse why the books have not been deliverd. Maybe the Education Department should give white people who wants to work and who has the skills and competance to do the job an opportunity to do the deliveries. Their current approach to black only clearly does not work. I saw it here in KZN. At the end of the day it was the white drivers who did the job including those deliveries not done or returned by the black drivers. Nothing racial about it - just plain facts. If you want the job done properly give it to white drivers. And finally the drivers should be oaid on time for their efforts- not waiting 3-4 months to getting paid. They have to keep the vechiles running at a huge cost and not everyboddy has that kind of reserves. It cost me on avarage R15-18,00000 (8,000km) per month do do the deliveries but then had to wait months to get paid.

  • Lennon Chenga - 2012-07-04 07:26

    @Heibrin, not only was there a problem but there was an INSTRUCTION to DESTROY books. How do u destroy material before you u receive new material? Where is the sense in that? Was it not the DA that laid the charges? When was our dear minister going to take that step? The whole thing is sinister madam minister!!

  • kmaruma - 2012-07-04 07:38

    He needs to start with his overweight nephew

  • TheyTookMyNickLaZynEko - 2012-07-04 07:44

    I bet the consequences involve swapping the incompetent people behind this failure with different incompetent people. (And no, this has nothing to do with skin color)

  • sponilicous - 2012-07-04 07:44

    Gov must hire people who are qulified for that jobs,if they do so de wont be having so much problems

  • Lennon Chenga - 2012-07-04 07:45

    @ssmonareng, there is definitely good that comes out when certain departments DO THEIR JOBS (and u r right, they should be commended) but that doesn't mean that the public should keep quiet when there are those that are messing up. We have to speak up and put pressure on (weed out) non performers till we have a government made of people who are passionate about the country they serve. What do the individuals involved in this textbook mess have to do with building houses?

  • Twolips - 2012-07-04 07:47

    Zuma, I have news for you. The buck stops with YOU.

  • patrick.buckley.712 - 2012-07-04 07:51

    When you have problems at a company, you do not start your investigation with the "tea lady", you start at the very top.............

  • Spikes - 2012-07-04 07:56

    Poor kids. All this adult blabbering about the "best excuse" is very educational, I am sure.

  • cyberdog.breath - 2012-07-04 08:08

    The consequences should start with removing the current incompetent, and corrupt president, then work your way down through the rot..

  • zimbobwe.mugabe - 2012-07-04 08:09

    Blah blah blah black sheeep.... yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaawn!!! We have heard this before heads will roll, there will be consequences, action will be taken, people must be held accountable. In anc terms it means you will be redeployed and given another job with all the benefits as minister or mec. The worst will be deploying you to a nice holiday in brazil as a diplomat on tax payers expense.

  • raymond.kok3 - 2012-07-04 08:16

    fire that useless minister because i can bet my life on it the same will happen again next year, its no use you set up commisions and task team clean out the education dept from the top.Angie is useless and while you at it get rid of the other idiot Blade they are no good to any school going child ever

  • - 2012-07-04 08:22

    Provincial governments run by politicians never made any sense to me. Privinces should possibly be run by professional public employees reporting to a team of administrators who are under instruction of the main government.

  • danny.levin.351 - 2012-07-04 08:28

    The consequences are that the kids will be puched though the school system and pass grades despite being illiterate, and the deployed cadres who were caught in this stuff-up will either keep their jobs or be re-shuffled to another position where they can carry on stealing and messing up. and the sheeple will carry on voting for these clowns.

  • danny.levin.351 - 2012-07-04 08:30

    @Ntshobs, the president has not fired any ministers. he has just appointed them to different ministries where they have a new chance to let their ineptitude shine. Being fired means that as of that moment you are without a job, not in another cushy position.

  • jeffrey.mnisi - 2012-07-04 08:34

    Possibly, the apartheid regime was segregative but deliver as promised but not equally enough to whites. the present gov, very fancy, empty promise.why not delirering enough to blacks. BEE,BBBEE.