Time to talk about leadership, says Malema

2011-12-21 13:38

Johannesburg - Suspended ANC Youth League president, Julius Malema, says it is time to talk about the succession debate in the ruling party or things will get "messy", The Star reported on Wednesday.

“We are calling on the national leadership to open the debate on leadership, towards the ANC’s centenary. It’s already being discussed. It will get messy if the ANC is not involved in guiding the debate,” said Malema at a closed session - shortly after he was elected onto the ANC’s Limpopo provincial executive committee.

His close ally Cassel Mathale was re-elected as provincial chairperson at the same conference.

Malema's new political appointment comes after the embattled youth league president told the Sunday Times in November this year, that he was "finished politically" and intended to take up cattle farming.


Malema is appealing his suspension from the league after he was found guilty of sowing division and bringing the ANC into disrepute by the party's national disciplinary committee.

Prior to the ANC's last national elective conference in 2008, Malema vowed to "kill for Zuma" as he faced-off against Thabo Mbeki for the position. Zuma was subsequently voted in as party president.

During the Limpopo conference, Malema seemed to make his disapproval of Zuma clear after he joined in the singing of derogatory songs which labelled Zuma the "shower man". Malema also held his hand over his head in the gesture of a shower head.

Cartoonist Zapiro attached a shower head to Zuma in his depiction of him ever since Zuma told a court during his 2006 rape trial that he took a shower after having had unprotected sex with an HIV-positive woman to prevent infection.

Change feared

Zuma was later acquitted. A new president for the ANC is due to be elected in Mangaung in December 2012.

Following Malema's suspension in November this year, he said that it had come about because some people in the party were irritated with him and his colleagues.

"Others were no longer able to tolerate us, but others just feared change - change in policy [and] change in leadership," he said.

Five other youth league leaders were also sanctioned by the party's disciplinary committee.

On Tuesday, Mathale said there were no "supreme members" in the ANC, not even Zuma.

"We must never lose sight of the fact that we cannot all lead at the same time. This is a reality that we must not forget," said Mathale.

  • colin.dovey - 2011-12-21 13:51

    What has happened to the investigations into Malema's financial dealings?

      adrien.mcguire - 2011-12-21 17:37

      Agreed and the recovery of R17m in legal fees owed by Jacky Selebi

      Daft - 2011-12-21 18:04

      BOGGERALL !!!!

      colin.dovey - 2011-12-22 18:05

      Would it not be nice if they all fought so hard to EDUCATE our people, and then make a climate of JOB creation - always remembering that NO Government creates jobs.....they just create the climate, but making it attractive for employers to employ incentives for factories, inducement for a climate of investment in infrastructure, fair labour legislation which is designed to avoid the now too-prevalent STRIKES we are getting, and people getting increases, even though they are not producing well!

      Paul - 2011-12-24 20:24

      Leadership? Go back to woodwork and speak with your teacher.

      Erena - 2012-01-07 18:45

      Hi JU-U i am applying for the job of your white domestic. I have been cleaning my own hose for years since your party started the minimim wage thing. I then realised the R200 a week I was paying my domestic was much more than what she should have got. But i can tell you all these years work experience makes me rather expensive. If you have a washing machine and a press iron as well as a vacuum cleaner please call me.

  • Ben - 2011-12-21 13:51

    Yes this is something that needs talking about. I sincerely hope Malema has no say in this matter.

  • Sam - 2011-12-21 13:52

    who is Malema in the ANC ? winning Limp does nt mean he has loud voice again in the ANC, only a mediocre that can celebrate a victory of 80 votes as difference, its pretty clear were rigged

  • Stefan - 2011-12-21 13:56

    This man Malema does not realise it but he is a mere puppet in a much larger scheme, orchestrated by an entity that prefers covert economic missions, so to speak. What these entities hope to achieve is to destabilize this economy and then infiltrate it once it has collapsed at a much lower cost. It is always easier to take control of a situation when the situation is out of control. Even though the mines will be nationalised, South Africa still needs to sell this gold on the international market, in dollars, and these "dollars" are created by no one else than the "Rothschilds" who are long standing friends and allies of the "de Beers" and such, so they dont care what the state of the country is in, they will still get their gold. Its always been about the money and control. Every war, every uprising, accident, act of terrorism, its all orchestrated. Unfortunately, we have to have Malema in this situation. It would have at least been acceptable had he been slightly intelligent, but to have our country ruined beyond repair by some gardener with a machete, hell no

  • Lyndatjie - 2011-12-21 13:58

    Will Journalists STOP giving this blow-up-doll a frigging voice!!!

      Garth - 2011-12-22 07:47

      very good up there with Bullard's `kiddie amin'. `blow up doll' - just don't put your mouth anywhere near it when inflating.

  • Alva - 2011-12-21 13:59

    Fatboy Evil IS BACK! Watch this space for big political drama!

  • TamaraSays - 2011-12-21 13:59

    Jacob Zuma, I hope with every fibre in my being that now that fat boy is officially in the ANC, you will exercise every power you have to have him removed, permanently. (Preferably from society in general, but if you can't do that, from politics specifically.) I think we all know that Malema is going to be the downfall of the ANC, and while I am not, and will never be, a supporter of the ANC 2.0 (the corrupt leaders, rather than the freedom fighters) any thinking person who wants the best for SA must realise that Malema is not, nor will he ever be, the best for South Africa!

  • Geronimo - 2011-12-21 13:59

    No, it's time for Malema to shut up and quit whilst he is still ahead... kick up a hornets' nest Fatboy and you may have a few more people knocking on your door thanks to your once friend, JZ. Like the Hawks and/or SARS for example...

      Geronimo - 2011-12-21 14:29

      @Chibuli - ohhh I think with a fail in woodwork and blatant lack of intelligence, the little Fatboy has got further than most. He has reached beyond his station in life, fair dues. However, SA deserves leaders of a higher calibre, not this self serving imbecile. Just a pity the "youth" swallow his rhetoric hook, line and sinker. Blame it on the lack of adequate education.

  • wnkambule - 2011-12-21 14:02

    "Cattle farming"?? That might get messy as someone still needs to be controlled

      alansmartSnr - 2011-12-23 15:14

      @ Daddy-Willie Nkambulr..Cattle farming. Hmm He'll finaly be at home cos of all the bull-s#it he is spreading. As it is I only see him as a lump of cow or bull s#it. He's swimming against the tide and I predict that a year from now, if anybody mentions Julius people will be asking the question" Julius who?.. as scientist say: "excreta occurs"

  • mzeke.ramoroka - 2011-12-21 14:05

    Who is the next president that we should expect?

      Geronimo - 2011-12-21 14:30

      Nelson Mandela set the standard...

  • Phumezo - 2011-12-21 14:08

    If we want to avoid another Gbagbo situation within our movement then we shouldnt suppress the leadership debate. It is long over due and this call from the Limpopo leadership must be supported by all democracy loving members of the ANC and not the media!

      TamaraSays - 2011-12-21 14:16

      The ANC, at present, is the government of South Africa, in spite of the 37% of the population that does not support them at the polls. Therefore, as a public service body (and not a private club, as you all seem to believe they are) any internal machinations in the ANC are in the interest of the public, and it's our right to know! I say, take the stories international! Let the world know what the ANC has become! The fight against Newpartheid has begun, and it won't end until ALL South Africans enjoy freedom from political persecution!

      Geronimo - 2011-12-21 14:34

      When will the ANC cease to be a "movement"? The "struggle" ended almost two decades ago. We (every SA citizen) need the ANC to concentrate on being the best elected government possible. Forget the "comrade", "cadre", "liberation movement" rhetoric and focus on the important job at hand - making the lives of every South African better. Just sayin'....

  • Refilwe - 2011-12-21 14:09

    Juju is back!!

      Glitchcs - 2011-12-22 08:00

      Another 12 Idiots in this world...I wait for the ANC to Split which then gives the DA more chance in getting the Majority votes! Helen Zille for president!

  • alain.d.thomas - 2011-12-21 14:13

    One of Julius Malema's New Year Resolutions is to become a better leader. My question is of what? The herd?

      SeeVeeDeeEl - 2011-12-21 14:29

      I think Malema's New Year resolution is to become as fat as Khulubuse Zuma, so that Jacob can mistake him for family.

  • Larry - 2011-12-21 14:15

    Good Grief! What are we in for next?

  • nicn44 - 2011-12-21 14:16

    Who calls the shots here? a suspended leader or the NEC

  • Lodewyk - 2011-12-21 14:16

    Why are we still hearing from this idiot!!??

  • paulr.g3 - 2011-12-21 14:16

    The Zumalema (AKA Zoomalema)saga has now passed its expiry date. Zuma's (off)comments; dubious appointments, and embarrassing decisions wrt to the judiciary have cast a long shadow...face it the man is incompetent and does not have the qualifications,grace or diplomacy to be president...on the other hand, i definitely i don't now and wont ever support Mr Piggy- it seems the obvious difference between Zuma and Malema is age, not intelligence... definitely not intelligence...

  • alfie.dunn - 2011-12-21 14:21

    And the show goes on....Malema's back in town. So what the f*ck is going on? Why is the cattle farmer still doing politics after he has been suspended...Farmer Malema was elected onto the ANC’s Limpopo provincial executive committee...Does this not sound like a load of utter bullsh*t, or are the big wigs still afraid of the Little Fat Prick...F*ck, when will this little sh*t ever fade away?

  • roth.eugen - 2011-12-21 14:25

    Malema is here to stay and WILL be president. SCARY!!!!

  • mholthuysen - 2011-12-21 14:30

    Things will get messy - I thought they are pretty messed up already!

  • Ndaba - 2011-12-21 14:35

    Bakithi, iANC is not Zanu. Can someone plse stop this silly man (he is no longer a boy though he behaves like one). And who does he think he is anyway? Suddenly becoz he was once elected ANCYL chairman then everybody is wrong and only he is right! I hope those considering his appeal are looking closely at what this man has been doing/saying since his suspension (and before) and decide whether ANC/SA needs the likes of him. He shld go to lawless and stone age Zimbabwe.

  • Ndaba - 2011-12-21 14:39

    Another thing, Malema should be concentrating on doing something about his weight (since politically he is done). At 30 and looking like an obese woman is not nice. Im sure at that point he will get to know that it was the ANC that fed him/clothed him. Otherwise he is a goat-herder in Limpopo.

  • Comrade - 2011-12-21 14:39

    MALEMA - WHO ???

  • Jayen - 2011-12-21 14:44

    To all you Malema followers... How can ur'll follow such an uneducated man. The idiot finished matric at the age of 21... and still failed most subjects. u'll do know that at 21 the average studying individual is on their last or 2nd to last year of a degree. But you followers have such low standards. Do ur'l even know the person ur'l follow. Do ur'l even make sense of what he says... for god sake!!!! since when is over 30 considered youth... to all the followers and Malema.. stop toi toi-ing, and making stupid comments and threats and waiting for top jobs to be handed on a plate.. go an get an education.. and maybe u'll one day be a leader and not a follower.

  • Victor - 2011-12-21 14:46

    So, it seems South Africa's future is a civil war. How could uneducated idiots be elected into a government??? But it's fine, the sooner it gets messy, the sooner he will realise he's not scaring everyone.

  • Andre Ernstzen - 2011-12-21 14:52

    I thought Malema is supposed to be suspended from the ANC?

  • - 2011-12-21 15:21

    So much for being suspended! Everything he says is still taken into account by the ANC. Now he wants to speak about LEADERSHIP?? We're better off listening to a 2 year old kid talking about Astronomy and rocket science!

  • Patient - 2011-12-21 15:32

    the good is that JM doesn't even have time to read this racist comments by whites and other confused blacks... come 2012 we demand radical change in the economy... SURELY WE SHALL GET IT... VIVA LIMPOPO

  • Lordwick - 2011-12-21 15:37

    Like as i said before,Dr Julias Malema is the future president!!! The votes he got in Limpopo is the clear indication of that and remember News24 trollers that Dr Malema is not only supported by Limpopo but by all provinces including Madam's!!!!

      skywalker10701 - 2011-12-21 16:25

      @lorddick - where does this Dr suddenly appeared from? Dr Julius Sangoma Malema?

  • Jimmy - 2011-12-21 15:51

    Leadership? This is a quality not known in the ANC

  • thembinkosi.mani - 2011-12-21 16:03

    Thumbs up Juju, for addressing what should have been addressed by our so called leaders and keep on doing the right thing until things are done in the proper way.When ever the people are being exploited and used some where some how peoples minds will correct them selves, viva Juju viva!!!

  • THABOM85 - 2011-12-21 16:08

    You are right JUJU. SHOWERHEAD went back on his word of serving only one term in office. Khulubuse is fat enough that he can't even attend a hearing, his daughters and Sons are on a board of directors in every company one can think of, and Ma-khumalo can at least afford a smile. We want change, Actually, We demand change!

  • rene.mcevoy - 2011-12-21 16:17

    I dont understand this!! How does the ANC suspension work?

      william.letsoalo1 - 2011-12-22 17:44

      It works the same way you see it, just get a copy of the freedom charter, because i believe ever Malema is saying is nomething new, he is on the correct of liberating the black masses of this country. I am sorry my friend it supposed to happen like it or not we are going to be liberated come Mangaung 2012.

  • Arthur - 2011-12-21 16:21

    MR Malema...YOU are no don't even think about discussing it with anyone

  • Mark - 2011-12-21 17:29

    Country needs a Hitman - just saying

      Nikki Bodenstein - 2011-12-21 21:20

      Couldn't agree more!

  • pmachaba1 - 2011-12-21 18:32

    Why all you wealthy people afraid of policy change or Malema economics?

  • Joseph - 2011-12-21 19:25

    You are Suspended for 5 years with immediate effect and you shall vacat your post as the Leader of the ANCYL.

  • Chans - 2011-12-21 20:16

    shut up Malema, go back to sleep!!!

  • vusi.lalas1 - 2011-12-22 01:57

    What happened to Malema investigation cos he is going to get fatter and claiming to represent the poor se gaat.Our country we came far if you ask me again i will say never again will this country take that road again.As for President Jacob Zuma he was a vice President then he became one.Why would he refused to hand the bet to the vice President this is not Congo.We never had a President for life the men has done his part can you guys leave him in peace.Year ago in Durban conference he talk about ill displin members and he vow to take action against them you and friends six months later he caught you

  • marina.poniatowska - 2011-12-22 02:27

    So it starts... Scary.

  • Kevin - 2011-12-22 04:18

    The pip sqeak is still trying to make noise. What is happening to the investigation on fat boy. SA wanted jail time by Xmas, now we have to hope for Easter. Come on police , do the right thing

  • nawtymonz - 2011-12-22 05:15

    Since when is the idiot allowed to speak?

  • Glitchcs - 2011-12-22 08:19

    Does Malema actually read News24 Comments? Someone please wake up the jackass and tell him he has been SUSPENDED! Please place him under arrest for breaching the courts ruling!

  • Jeremy - 2012-01-04 15:14

    Malema! You and your kind are taking us down the road to messy dictatorship.

  • John - 2012-01-07 08:24

    Hey News24 readers. Has antone noticed that they have blocked any further comments on the article ""Malema envisions white domestic workers"" Suppose the subject was getting too hot.

  • Erena - 2012-01-07 18:44

    Hi JU-U i am applying for the job of your white domestic. I have been cleaning my own hose for years since your party started the minimim wage thing. I then realised the R200 a week I was paying my domestic was much more than what she should have got. But i can tell you all these years work experience makes me rather expensive. If you have a washing machine and a press iron as well as a vacuum cleaner please call me.

  • Terrence - 2012-01-13 07:36

    What more can one say about this? I do not think anybody knows really what is going on except Julius who has scripted the act and we are all watching the performance and the audience is entranced and everyone is waiting for the next episode. This is out of a magic book whereby diversion of attention is allowing certain actions to be taken without us even knowing. He is truly the special one, can not be touched. Everyone one likes to be entertained. So your guess is as good as mine. Stay tuned.

  • Bob - 2012-05-25 16:29

    What a scary thought...Malema in wonder we did not get the entire telescope contract....!!! Die vuur brand nader mense...

  • Popeye - 2012-05-25 18:14

    Hey Julyass, I like the pic of you hanging from Zuma's pants.You forgot to smile old dickbreath.

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