Unnamed sources like apartheid spies: ANC

2012-06-27 14:33

Johannesburg - ANC members who leak stories to the media anonymously are like apartheid spies, the Eastern Cape branch of the party said on Wednesday.

"Anonymous and nameless people who leak information to the media hurt our ANC [in] the same way apartheid government spies - planted to infiltrate our movement - hurt our liberation struggle and our movement," provincial secretary Lubabalo Oscar Mabuyane said in a statement.

"At times leaked information is false, framed in an incorrect, selfish and malicious manner, bandied to unsuspecting journalist who adapt to it like [a] dove adapts to water without even verifying it with the ANC or even getting our side."

He said some journalists viewed information from an unnamed source as "gospel truth".

"Such a conduct by some journalists doesn't do much to distinguish their conduct from that of [the] apartheid police, who planted these enemy agents in our camps, killing scores of our people.


"If the media is to be respected in playing its role, journalists must start respecting their profession by doing their work in a professional, fair, and balanced manner, that doesn't disrespect our ANC."

The party hoped members did not leak information on what was being discussed during closed sessions at the ANC policy conference in Midrand.

"Any person who leaks information to the media is ill-disciplined and doesn't respect the ANC," Mabuyane said.

Wednesday marked the second day of the conference at Gallagher Estate in Midrand. Delegates would spend the first half of the day in commissions discussing strategy and tactics, the second transition, and organisational renewal. After lunch, members would split into 11 commissions to discuss the ANC's other policy documents.

All commissions were closed to the media.

On Tuesday, President Jacob Zuma told reporters at the conference that the party must get involved in debates around itself.

"The ANC has been discussed left, right and centre, in the morning, afternoon, evening and all other times... With time, people are going to get used to inaccurate facts about the ANC," Zuma said.

"Our view is that some people who discuss the ANC do not know the ANC. They do have views about the ANC and interpretations about the ANC...[and] at times their interpretations are not accurate."

  • Kala - 2012-06-27 14:36

    ""At times leaked information is false, framed in an incorrect, selfish and malicious manner, bandied to unsuspecting journalist who adapt to it like [a] dove adapts to water without even verifying it with the ANC or even getting our side." ROTFLMAO. The speeches coming from this conference are worthy of a slot in Comedy Central.

      jackal666.daniel - 2012-06-27 14:49

      Eish dee's blaadie aegents! LOL!!!

      Squeegee - 2012-06-27 14:59

      The only result of a dove adapting to water is drowning. A drowned dove has a higher IQ than this spokesman.

      nigel.burgess.52 - 2012-06-27 15:02

      Bloody agents everywhere, and doves adapting to water. Amandla

      Billy - 2012-06-27 15:26

      lol! well maybe we can have a death match, with the Zuma Spear and the Apartheid Spies.

      WysJouMys - 2012-06-27 15:29

      HAHA! I see cracks appearing in the ''regime''.

      arthur.hugh - 2012-06-27 15:40

      How do you spot an ANC spy? They're the only ones not throwing chairs at a meeting.

      Dee - 2012-06-27 15:40

      But I would agree that there IS irresponsible journalism ... ON BOTH SIDES of the 'soccer game' our political arena seems to be. Think only of the premature leak of Madonsela's finding on case of W.Cape ad award .... Half the country shrieking "Laduuuuuuummmmaaaa" whilst the ball was still in play. And how about publication of Cosatu's allegations of DA having a bakkie load of bricks at their Youth wage subsidy march - with not one comment by DA in any article I read. In short - journalism DOES need a code of reporting conduct, and there is indeed some crappy / unfair reporting. (However E.Cape ANC, using 'apartheid spies' analogy about leaks is a pretty crappy / unfair standard too!)

      kirsten.a.foster.100 - 2012-06-27 15:40

      We dont care who you really are you po@phol

      Eben - 2012-06-27 17:03

      A Dove adapts to water....... like the ANC adapt to corruption ill-dicipline and stupidity!!!!. Who gave the fool a chance to speak?.

      Bulls - 2012-06-27 17:11

      Alicia, I like your Idea of making a movie, the beginning will show an old white woman who hasn't bought clothes and shoes for more than ten years,sitting on the sofa with her white husband both wearing fleece jumpers in their cold lounge and worried about losing their beloved house. What about that?

      giovanni.izar - 2012-06-27 17:22

      Doves adapting to water without verifying with the anc first. We have a crisis.

  • oneant.kasinski - 2012-06-27 14:42

    Perhaps if the ANC started respecting the taxpayers who pay their salaries, they - IN TURN - will garner some respect.. NO?

      arthur.hugh - 2012-06-27 15:37

      Well put.

      grant.hide - 2012-06-27 15:50

      They should be awarded for making problems.

  • DJPotifar - 2012-06-27 14:42

    This is hilarious!

      Jones.Jacq - 2012-06-27 15:21

      if it wasn't so sad

  • wilhelm.grobbelaar - 2012-06-27 14:45

    Oh, Now it's a movement. Not a party but a movement. Ghengis Khan had a movement once, so did Adolf Hitler and look where they ended up. The media is present at the conference so what's there to hide..... oh yea, everything.

      Kala - 2012-06-27 14:51

      I had a movement this morning. Maybe a movement is a more appropriate term for the anc.

      Sharon - 2012-06-27 19:07

      a bowel movement

  • oomkrummel.krummel - 2012-06-27 14:46

    Be more open and honest with info, then there will be no need for spys and wrong info slipping out. Me thinks, there is plenty to hide...????

  • felix.feline.3 - 2012-06-27 14:46

    The anc is like the apartheid government.

      Kala - 2012-06-27 14:55

      The anc is way funnier Felix. We never had such witty speeches coming from De Klerk or Botha.

      nigel.burgess.52 - 2012-06-27 15:04

      Well we did once - "runs off my back like Duck's water". I'll never forget that one from the apartheid era.

      oomkrummel.krummel - 2012-06-27 15:28

      Trevor Manual "He is like a wolf in wolf's clothing"..

  • rynoj1 - 2012-06-27 14:50

    It is easy to know the ANC, just look at our country and how it is run by the ANC!!!!!!!!

  • eva.walle.75 - 2012-06-27 14:50

    ANY political party should withstand criticism from the public and the media!! Thus is the world of POLITICS! And last time I checked we were a democracy, you know, where people have the power to remove scum and vote for better!! Perhaps if the ANC was credible, they would be so concerned about the world spreading "inaccurate" facts about them!!!!! YOU ARE PATHETIC!

  • cyanideandhappiness - 2012-06-27 14:51

    ANC is the new racist Apartheid government, bunch of fat cat thieves and liars! Dear ANC, when the mass public wakes up to the crimes you have committed, they will tear you apart like a pride of lions on a kill, you have seen the violence in the Middle East, soon it will be you to face the same fire, and no amount of passing the buck such as blaming other parties or white people for your own disgusting inadequacy will save you from the the mass awakening, you have been warned.

  • peter.jefferies.90 - 2012-06-27 14:53

    Wow, I think ANC memebers lack the part of the brain that allows you to filter out rubbish before it comes out of your mouth!!! Do they not see that people are doing this out of fear!! Maybe if the ANC didn't try and rule by stiking fear into there supporters people wouldn't have to send out information anonymously!

  • Henk - 2012-06-27 14:55

    HUH!!!! What about DA or Cope spies?

  • Pieter Mulder - 2012-06-27 14:56

    No leaks needed. Our country is in a shamble. Media can't look past facts in eye sight. Wake up and smell the real South Africa, political blubber.

  • daniel.motlhatlhedi - 2012-06-27 14:56

    Stop with the blame game and advise members to behave in a dignified way to avoid such things.

      wilhelm.grobbelaar - 2012-06-27 15:02

      Agreed. Why is apartheid always to blame. Apartheid doesn't exist anymore except the apartheid in the government. They are the real apartheid racists.

  • christopher.columbus.3950178 - 2012-06-27 15:01

    Apartheid spies, Cia spies, Fbi spies, childline spies, governement spies.We need spies in order to get the truth in this it means that the anc spies are really trying to show the corruptness and the absolute liars that belong to the anc, and its great to know that their are some anc people that really want to make this country better.

  • azande.futhi - 2012-06-27 15:04

    Whistleblowing is allowed in this country. Why worry if you have nothing to hide? Hands off the whistle blowers, just advise the media to verify info before publishing it.

  • brendon.alberts - 2012-06-27 15:05

    Emperors clothes.. We see thru ure lies.

  • Mark - 2012-06-27 15:06

    Government officials who do not perform at their jobs should be considered TRAITORS for letting down the country.

  • madoda.monamudi - 2012-06-27 15:08

    ANC government is not serving the majority of black people but ANC is serving the DA and the white community.

      Henk - 2012-06-27 15:12

      Trying to troll?

      nigel.burgess.52 - 2012-06-27 15:12

      Like hell. Not from where I'm standing.

      christopher.columbus.3950178 - 2012-06-27 15:14

      Because thats how the economy is going to grow...and your leaders know that. Without the white companies and entrepreneurs who employ the vast majority of the black people, this country will be like Zimbabwe, and trust me will just be another black person relegated to nothing if that happens!

      wilhelm.grobbelaar - 2012-06-27 15:22

      The first sensible thing said all day.

  • victor.windsor - 2012-06-27 15:10

    That sounds like hate speech to me !!!!!

  • almeleh - 2012-06-27 15:11

    Apartheid spies? You mean ANC spies.

      arthur.hugh - 2012-06-27 15:39

      How do you spot an ANC spy? They're the only ones not throwing chairs at a meeting.

  • sbu.mahwai - 2012-06-27 15:12

    Will this comedy ever stop running - cry me a river who said you immune to the so called leaking of information. "Our view is that some people who discuss the ANC do not know the ANC" - so who the hell is the ANC

  • Henk - 2012-06-27 15:12

    Struggle, Liberation movement? against you own stupidity?

  • Billy - 2012-06-27 15:14

    there we go again! the anc keeping apartheid and racism alive. amazing the way the ANC makes the media out to be the white devils tool. makes the uninformed think the stories in the newspaper is just another form of white oppression, so they ignore it and vote for the anc that are full of hollow promises. if the anc was run properly they wouldnt have to worry about stories leaking thes unnamed sources are the OPPOSITE of apartheid spies, these sources leak information because you are rotten to the core, you could say its for the better of the country. apartheid spies, well they spied for apartheid, no good.

      mthobisi.ndlovu - 2012-06-27 15:49

      we will never move passd our horrible history. .since the ANC is keeping it alive.,and the naive ppl buy the crap that they spew daily

      Billy - 2012-06-27 16:02

      correct dude. as long as the anc is standing on the soup box, we will not move past it. it is their biggest weapon for keeping them in power. making people hate each other. they will tell you the opposite of course. they need a time out, someone els must run for a while, so they can fight within themselves without bringing the country down with them. then WHEN they have fixed their problems they must try again.

  • Justin.D.Glenn - 2012-06-27 15:22

    Yeah we all know the ANC has a hidden agenda.

  • cyberdog.breath - 2012-06-27 15:28

    Wow, its like a kindergarten student who has just learnt a new term, and is trying to figure a place to use it ... "apartheid spies" wwwoooooo.... -10 for originality, -20 for using it out of context, -30 for being an nonconstructive useless yob. Now get the f*ck out of the government, and get someone with some intelligence and vision. And stop wasting tax money.

  • Nicorien Le Roux - 2012-06-27 15:34

    Why do you always blame Apartheid? Grow up. Move on!!!

  • Matthew - 2012-06-27 15:35 now,if someone spells the beans and what is going on behind closed doors,namely corruption,you just as bad as apartheid,just when you thought the ANC couldnt be more always,they proove us (the people) wrong again =/

  • whyeti - 2012-06-27 15:39

    Just like the old nursery rhyme " There is a hole in my bucket" It now goes " There is a spy in my House". The ending has change to "Dear Zuma" Be careful spooks and spies everywhere. What a joke and thes are supposed to be adults!!

  • neville.engelbrecht - 2012-06-27 15:39

    ignorance is bliss...

  • mthobisi.ndlovu - 2012-06-27 15:44

    we will never move forward and get pass the race/apartheid issue if everytime the ANC tries to cover its corruption and incompetency by pulling those cards. . . Here is a quick question for them, IF THE LEAKED INFORMATION IS WRONG, WHY NOT PROVIDE THE CORRECT INFO WITH PROOF? instead of playing the blame game. They make it sound like the media only reports about the ANC which is extremely pompous of them.

      sello.mapeka - 2012-06-27 16:30

      You 100% right, what are they(ANC) hiding?

      colin.langley - 2012-06-27 18:57

      Excellent question!

  • Stille - 2012-06-27 15:48

    So treat them like you treated the so called spies when you were a terrorist organisation. Drag the old ladies and young men from their beds at night, and set them alight with a tyre. But not before you make their famileis and friends watch.

  • martin.britchford.5 - 2012-06-27 15:53

    i love how badly the truth hurts these liars, they are constitutionally incapable of being honest

  • jwdupreez - 2012-06-27 16:10

    Aaaa come on Zoempie try a new one and give apartheid a break! I think your comparison should be more "like a Church Street Bomber"

      Njongo Christian Sotobe - 2012-06-27 16:54

      OOOh! im tired of apartheid excuses. it just shows these ppl r damn lies

  • Marc - 2012-06-27 16:24

    If I was a white racist I would vote ANC. The ANC has and will do more to suppress non-whites than the Apartheid government (and its spies) ever did.No text books in schools - ANC, No service delivery to poor - ANC, greed, corruption,nepotism - ANC. Yep, if you want to keep our black brothers and sisters down please vote ANC. If you want a better life for all, vote for anyone else at all. People who vote ANC are racist right wingers trying to suppress the poor and dispossed.(and a few million misguided souls). The joke continues

  • justin.pretorius - 2012-06-27 16:44

    Go suck eggs

  • christo.bosman.7 - 2012-06-27 17:16

    I think all the farmers should strike, bring everything to a standstill for a couple of months or so. If the ANC wants to play hard ball and not protect the farmers. Show them an up yours!

  • maseratifittipaldi - 2012-06-27 17:46

    Give me strength! Time for a beer.

  • johann.vanryneveld - 2012-06-27 17:58

    The Eastern Cape branch is a standing branch and they hold standing meetings ,why because somebody stole the chairs

  • antin.herinck - 2012-06-27 18:41

    ANC's standing directive according to their handbook: When anything compromising the ANC's image crops up: 1st deny 2nd say it's racist 3rd blame apartheid. NB: when it's really had, go to 3rd directly.

  • Vince.York - 2012-06-27 20:09

    EASTERN CAPE REFUGEES FROM TRUTH spell out how the WORLD must behave and respond to their OUTRIGHT THEFT and LIES - no indoctrination needed - just follow the command.

  • emile.vanrayner.7 - 2012-06-27 20:20

    lol wow... these guys are really good at their jobs. a couple of points to note: 1 - nobody "owes" the anc any respect. respect is earned. if you are not being respected, that reflects on your OWN actions ie: its not MY fault that i dont respect you, its YOURS. deal with it. 2 - the anc really needs to let go of apartheid. the country will never move past that phase if you keep shoving it down the throats of people who dont agree with you. it used to be reserved only for white people, but now you are using the apartheid card against your OWN people? 3 - if leaking information to the media is illegal, punish the offender. dont b*tch about it on the news. if you dont know who did it, or have no way of finding out, then stfu

  • tngulube3 - 2012-06-27 20:25

    When are we going to stop blaming apartheid,how many time do the whites apologize to blacks. ANC will use NELSON MANDELA to win elections and most of the youth will not vote.

  • paulgerber969 - 2012-06-28 10:24

    carniving behind closed doors (sic)

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