Veterans want Mbalula to be disciplined

2012-10-24 17:03

Durban - Sports Minister Fikile Mbalula should be disciplined by the ANC or resign, the KwaZulu-Natal Umkhonto we Sizwe Military Veterans Association (MKMVA) said on Wednesday.

MKMVA provincial chairperson Themba Mavundla said: "We are saying the president is not a whipping boy. We want him [Mbalula] taken for [a] disciplinary. He is as ill-disciplined as his buddies."

Mavundla, reacting to a report in the Star newspaper earlier this week, said at a press conference in Durban that Mbalula should resign.

"If we allow such acts from members, the ANC will not see another 100 years."

Mbalula was quoted by the newspaper as saying: "I have no time for Zuma. He has caused his own problems. He marries every week."

It also reported that he had rebuffed efforts by Zuma lobbyists to "neutralise" him.

"They came to me and offered me a position to neutralise me," he was reported as saying in The Star.

Mavundla said that if the newspaper had got it wrong, then the ANC should take action against the newspaper.

MKMVA re-affirmed its support for Zuma as the party’s president.

Mavundla said that the organisation had decided at its recent provincial general council that it wanted the ANC’s current treasurer general Mathews Phosa and its current deputy secretary general Thandi Modise to be dropped at Mangaung in favour of KwaZulu-Natal Premier Zweli Mkhize and former ANC spokesperson Jessie Duarte.

He said the MKMVA still wanted Kgalema Motlanthe to be deputy president of the ANC, but that if Motlanthe opted to challenge Zuma for leadership of the party, then it would urge Cyril Ramaphosa to be Zuma’s deputy.

MKMVA provincial secretary Nhlanhla Maphumulo lamented the number of attacks being made against President Jacob Zuma from within the ANC.

He said those who attacked Zuma for the decisions he had made were effectively attacking him for decisions that had been made by the ANC "as a collective".

  • kala.bafazi - 2012-10-24 17:11

    All this anc in fighting leaves me feeling all warm and fuzzy inside.

  • tim.gordon.5011516 - 2012-10-24 17:12

    I'm quite enjoying watching this cat fight.

      mc.segal.5 - 2012-10-24 17:31

      Tim google this: Funny animals ; cats fighting

      tim.gordon.5011516 - 2012-10-24 17:48

      Yup, looks about right, except real cats are actually cute, while these are an ugly lot.

  • ray.molekoa.5 - 2012-10-24 17:12

    Who's zooming who ?

  • welcome.mokgara - 2012-10-24 17:15

    thats the problem with our current leadership...why do u want to discipline some hu criticises the president..If we dnt wnt the president to be criticised we jst paving our path to being lyk Zimbabwe

  • BigChiefPlumbPudding - 2012-10-24 17:16

    As usual it's all about the ANC and their cadres. Never about South Africa and its citizens.

  • Bra Tebzaah Sibilanga - 2012-10-24 17:17

    Stupid veterans,they should also include their hero (zuma) in those disciplinary procedure for being ruining the country.What value do those retard veterans bring to this country except seeing themselves behind a microphone spewing bile.

  • sthembiso.jali.50 - 2012-10-24 17:19

    All this talk talk to protect that clown- zuma. These veterans must be placed in a museam now, they add very less value in a vision of this country.

  • nkadimeng - 2012-10-24 17:21

    Why discipline someone for telling the truth?

      lorain.maseko - 2012-10-25 07:31

      If Zuma hadnt got rid of malema none of these truths would be told, wake up people just because someone is against Zuma doesnt neccesarily mean they have the interesets of the country at heart, this all comes from a selfish plae 'I want me and my buddie in power". I will always say this,no matter how much truth is told by malema's sympathisers I will not trust them as far as I can throw them, anybody who feels that Malema's outsting was wrongful clearly is as lost as he is and as greedy as he is.

      james.harold.946 - 2012-10-25 08:39

      Would it not be wonderful to have a president that is God fearing, Family orientated, humble, educated and with business sense is that to much to ask for? Would it not be wonderful to go up to your Black,White, Yellow or Green Neighbor and say good day how are you and your family today instead of wondering if you are going to get attacked, robed or even just ignored because of your pigmentation. Can we not just live in peace together, love life and enjoy are families and friends for this short period of time that we are on this earth. Is that to much to ask??

  • pmalungana - 2012-10-24 17:24

    ANC veterans, could you please elaborate the success of the current government with reference to education, healt care, social care etc? ANC has decision makers under the leadership of the incumbent president,so the entire ANC leadership bears the blame for the mistake of the president ryt? So we do not need the president because every decision is made coleectively?Please elaborate these things.Whether the people wants Mabalula to be in leadership is immaterial according to your opinion? We really need a lot of political education to understand the politics of this country according to the MK veterans.Yes we are in deep trouble

  • jola.jose.7 - 2012-10-24 17:27

    Are you going to discipline those millions anc members who don't have time zuma ? This is insane

  • Sibonakaliso Mthembu - 2012-10-24 17:36

    aluta continua who ever lacks discipline will have it instilled in him

      nicky.saaiman.1 - 2012-10-24 19:09

      Your aluta continua will end with donde esta mi comida.

      mc.segal.5 - 2012-10-24 20:23

      Google; Bert the cat vs cat balloon for discipline. Perfect.

  • nghamula.mdunwazi - 2012-10-24 17:37

    Fikile mbalula when he said similar things to to thabo mbeki this maroons never took any action to desciplene fikile mbalula but now they want him to face music.

      jakobus.thulasizwe - 2012-10-25 09:01

      Quite correct brother Nghamula, these morons are protecting their tribalist who is messing up this country. Why does Zuma build himself a palace and his personal town in Nkandla. The best Presidents before him who put this country to the skies had never did this. If KwaZulu Natal structures were vocal in protecting the preseidency the way they are doing even during the time when Mbeki was vilified by political hooligans who some of them are in trouble as we speak, we would say they are genuine in their utterances. We must remember that the majority of people and leaders in the ANC in KZN now are original from IFP including Blade Nzimande. So we must not be surprised by their behaviour, IFP is a pride Zulu nationalist party. They are messing up the ANC of Oliver Tambo, Govan Mbeki, Christ Hani, Ahmed Cathrada, Andrew Mlangeni, Alfred Nzo Nelson Madela.

  • rasthami.m1 - 2012-10-24 17:38

    Spoken like true tribalist who's eyeing on a tender in nkandla development-

  • david.j.mccullough.5 - 2012-10-24 17:55

    Good for you Mr Mbalula, have your say. We need more ministers with your work ethic, if I did vote ANC because there was absolutely nobody else to vote for, I'd vote for you.

  • ray.molekoa.5 - 2012-10-24 17:56

    By the way , what is their claim to fame ? Quattro guards who maimed and ruled the camp like it was a concentration camp ? The sooner the better they realize their irrelevance in South Africa 2012 . They have no role or contribution in nation building South Africa . All they have is bush war nostalgia and sense of entitlement . Codesa settled everything !

  • donald.perumal - 2012-10-24 17:59

    Calls for his resignation should be loud and clear.He must go!

      timgaulza - 2012-10-24 18:08


      donald.perumal - 2012-10-24 18:30

      His comments are unsavoury and unbecoming of a Minister.If he has something to say to Zuma,could he not say it straight to the President at a meeting,after all they meet often.He is behaving like Julius,pandering to the masses,stirring their emotions,for what?These are our leaders,we expect better.

      lindani.zulu2 - 2012-10-24 18:31

      I agree... The dude sees that he's only been nominated by the youth and gauteng and no one else which means he's chance to make it to the top 6 r gone then he resorts in exxpressing his views in this rotten manner..he must go..follow juju..

  • lephutsi.setsompa - 2012-10-24 18:02

    The sooner those MK Vetarans die the better.

      joko.makhoba - 2012-10-24 18:21

      hahahahahahaha, well said

      donald.perumal - 2012-10-24 18:32

      You didn't say that when they were fighting in the bush while you slept peacefully.

      lorain.maseko - 2012-10-25 07:59

      @ DonaldMathrayPerumal a thousand thumbs up to you.

  • Mxolisi.S.Masilela - 2012-10-24 18:07

    these are mk veterans, a structure that has no say in any anc matters. forget not that Zuma was their senior in exile,so they'll say and do anything just to please their commander*brainwashed*

  • chuma.mpapela - 2012-10-24 18:07

    Firstly, I find no logic when Mr. Mavundla says they would back Mr. Motlanthe if he goes for presidency bt they would back him if he stays as president. Shouldn't their vote be objective so that there could be consistency in their decisions. Secondly, I might be strong ANC supporter but if the president makes decisions that raises eyebrows then I as South African citizen am entitled to challenge that decision even though I'm a ANC supporter. If you say I must jump, I'm not that kind of person who aks \how high\ I'm the kind of person who will ask\why\. We aren't sheeps if I see that our leader is running towards a dead end then I shall not follow.

  • fnxusani - 2012-10-24 18:08

    Long time ago suppossed elikrwala latshajwa kudala with his buddies the hooligans of the ANCYL loyiswa yiledepartment yesport just promising nonsense!liphume nesuthu neh?

      Onke Mdingi - 2012-10-24 18:16

      Ngxatsho ke, abahena!

      langa.ludidi - 2012-10-24 18:27

      Order! Qabane!

  • ndyeboreginaldmazawule - 2012-10-24 18:10

    Hands off Mbalula hands off

  • Michael - 2012-10-24 18:12

    Mbalula, Mashatile, Phosa, Malema, Sexwale, Modise, and the whole group miscalculated their chances, they are now so confused, Mbalula dont even know what to do anymore, reading the alleged comment he made, i think he did, thats how he says things, he just retruct because of pressure.

  • Manduleli Rotherham Mtyoki - 2012-10-24 18:19

    Guyz this is South Africa, and some who doesn't know we have what we call FREEDOM OF EXPRESSION. Mbalula didn't use any vulgar language but he was expressing his own ideas. MKVA you just looking for publicity because I don't even see your role in ANC other than claiming compensation, so BACK OFF!

      lindani.zulu2 - 2012-10-24 18:26

      So in other words, against ur boss u would express urself in the same manner at work? That is if u are a working class thou..

      xoli.themba - 2012-10-24 19:45

      there is no work here its political expression don,t be so stupid.

  • ivan.devries.7 - 2012-10-24 18:19

    What is veterans umkhonto military is it DOG poe?

      donald.perumal - 2012-10-24 18:35

      Don't be vulgar! Express yourself properly,most of those guys are elderly people,afford them some respect.

  • Thembinkosi Ntlanganiso - 2012-10-24 18:22

    That vateran must leave cde Mbalula alone his time is up,we need Fikile (the dinamite) Mbalula alone or he will explode in his face

  • eugine.bouwer - 2012-10-24 18:25

    Mkmva I tot u were already skeletons,how u discipline with ak 47's.boring idea

  • vuyani.frans - 2012-10-24 18:45

    I'm tired of KZN and their dectatorship,people shall keep quiete and not express their views if u talked about president Zuma you will be attacked I'm also the member of ANC in good standing I also don't have time for president Zuma because the only thing that he has care of is Inkandla,family and those who are supporting him they are supporting a Nkandla development,Him and his lawyers they doesn't have respect for the Constitution they have define the Court oder that they shall hand over the tapes that made his charhges to be widrawn by NPA and who shall respect him if he doesn't respect the court of law and why the is no major development in other rural areas?

  • declan.kelly.54 - 2012-10-24 18:53

  • mbambo.shi - 2012-10-24 18:55

    Mbalula has literaly and intensionaly been misquoted under the guidence of Zuma and his cronies. Actually, it's a setup to derail his loyalty towards Mangaung. He's not the first and the last, watch the space in the next coming few days. Paul Mashatile and those known to be against Zuma's second term on office, they needs to stay strong and be unshaken. The journalist and the paper itself, got their hands on the cookie jar, that Zuma and his Nkandla kraal are currently deeply immersed. ''Though you walk in the valley, your lump will be seen'', mr useless president.

  • ayanda357s - 2012-10-24 19:42

    ANC has too much power, power corrupts, can somebody please tell the "veterans" that the war is over, it's time to rebuild our country unfortunately that doesn't involve gunz but innovation and progressive minds, these old folks have an agenda to fatten their pocket "people deserve the government they get"

  • langa.ludidi - 2012-10-24 19:56

    The allegations are just allegations. Mbalula has made a public announcement that he didn't say anything closer to that. Who do we believe? The media or Mbalula? However, the alleged statements need to be scrutinized in perspective. To me, whether they are true or not is neither here nor there, but the crux of the matter is that there's a problem in the ruling party. The problem is compounded by the lack of integrity of our leaders. It is a shame that the country finds it easy to believe that the allegations are true. Its a sign of the decay within the movement. Its time for a regime change. We don't need any of the current leadership. It is new faces that will save us from the imminent, unabated downward spiral that the country is heading towards...

  • mammudi.makgaleng.3 - 2012-10-24 20:05

    Your fast in responding to useless issues while critical issues of pupils stabbing one another at KZN schools are blind sided. I just wonder what does he feeds you with that makes you attack anything that is against Zumadology.

  • osama.pascal - 2012-10-24 20:43

    And it is still said that there are no cracks in the cANCer. It is good that this pigs eat each other for a change. Pay back time to the citizens. The elephant is falling because of greediness and thank to a casanover from Nkandla

  • osama.pascal - 2012-10-24 20:46

    There is no smoke without fire. He said it and the paper said it stand by its words. If that is not true, let MbalOOn sue the newspaper.

  • osama.pascal - 2012-10-24 20:54

    Mbaloon said it. The papers said they are sticking by their guns. Then he must sue them if that's not true

  • vusumuzi.zidane - 2012-10-24 21:14

    If they dare touch him,I'm tired of this stupid old people when you disagree with them then you have no respect.

  • vusumuzi.zidane - 2012-10-24 21:15

    If they dare touch him,I'm tired of this stupid old people when you disagree with them then you have no respect.

  • Karel du Toit - 2012-10-24 21:16

    hey you useless veterans go worry about something else. freedom of speech is important. your puppet master zooma is a so blinded by power and money he will try to bribe anyone. if they cannot be bribed he will use veterans to threaten them

  • oneman.njilana - 2012-10-24 22:28

    The general knowledge about veterans they should be discipline and mature to any organisation that has them as the structure that is general knowledge. But MKVA always misinterprete orders they alter discipline for disciples of factionalist. During struggle the outcomes of Mkhonto we Sizwe turned be singing choir. The betrayed young militias were turned into singing brigades. The MKVA recently has been giving orders to any beat ANC members who disagree with their factionalist. Well we are not fools the Zanufication of Zimbabwe began with these forms. Where members of society are forced to agree with ZanuPf. After Mangaung these factionalist unite and come to society looking for voters. And time is\r\nagainst ANC so the will be zanufication of society being forced to vote cause after Marikana times have changed. The illusion of next 100 never happen but we careful that means the ANC will be resist losing state power.

  • solanga.maluleke - 2012-10-25 12:52

    Veterans why didn't you teach your other sss to behave cause Zuma forst saw government bank accout few years ago and realise that there is a lot of money forgetting that is not his. Look now Nkandla upgrade how many house can you buy around SA with that money more that 200 and the best houses.

  • stephen.moloi.56 - 2012-10-25 20:42

    people you are causing more damage to the organisation.the oppositions are benefiting while we are hard at each other`s throat belittling one another.let us wait for mangaung where you will all participate in leadership choice

  • moloko.mphago - 2012-12-09 22:50

    I think this so called veterans in Natal are shallow minded. This guys are talking nonsense.I never saw any of their programmes and nothing can be said about many of their members are still struggling under poverty and they do nothing. This idiots were suppose to talk about policy or pragrammes that would benefit freedom fighters.. Mxm idiots.

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