Where is Julius Malema?

2011-09-12 16:41

Johannesburg – ANC Youth League president Julius Malema was nowhere to be found as the High Court ruled that the singing of the song "dubhula ibhunu" constituted hate speech.

ANCYL general secretary Sandiso Magaqa said the league would study the judgment before responding.

Earlier, Judge Collin Lamont ruled in the South Gauteng High Court that the singing of the song "dubhula ibhunu" (shoot the boer) constituted hate speech.

"We will defend the heritage of the ANC," Magaqa said, stressing that there was no other response until lawyers had been consulted.

League spokesperson Floyd Shivambu and Magaqa ignored questions when asked where Malema was.

Some among the group outside said he was at the ANC's customary Monday national working committee meeting, while others suggested that he may be ill.

Malema's hearing was postponed on Sunday, to accommodate the hate speech judgment.

ANC spokesperson Keith Khoza said he did not know where Malema was.

ANC appalled

The ANC bemoaned the court ruling that translations of the words "shoot the boer" and "they are rapists" were hate speech.

"The ANC is appalled at the decision because we think the decision does not appreciate the history of the ANC and the history of the liberation movement," Khoza said.

"It also did not, in our view, take into account the context in which the songs were sung."

He said the ANC would carefully study the judgment and develop a full understanding of its implications before deciding how to proceed.

The words undermined the dignity of people and were discriminatory and harmful, said Judge Lamont.

"No justification exists allowing the words to be sung... the words were in any event not sung on a justifiable occasion."

AfriForum, whose youth wing brought the application against Malema at the Equality Court, were "overjoyed" at the ruling.

Ernst Roets, chairperson of AfriForum Youth at the time he laid the complaint, said the body were very happy with the ruling.

"We are grateful that the judge took a lot of effort to describe why and understand that a person is offended."

Malema was taken to court after singing "dubhula ibhunu".

Crowd sang "dubhula ibhunu"

AfriForum contended the words were threatening to minorities, and a threat to the safety of Afrikaners and farmers.

Outside the court, a crowd sang "dubhula ibhunu", in spite of Lamont saying that the courts could be approached again if there was contempt for his order.

"We are not scared," sang another group.

Malema and five other top league officials are defending themselves against disciplinary charges that they brought the ANC into disrepute.

On the first day of the hearing, groups of Malema supporters threw stones and bottles near ANC headquarters Luthuli House, in Sauer Street.

On Monday, three trailers of barbed wire, police cars and a riot truck set the scene, with black luxury sedans triple parked along the cordoned off section of the road.

However, the street was quiet, with drivers dozing off in their vehicles, and Luthuli House staffers going about their daily business.

Asked what he would do about people singing the song again, AfriForum lawyer Willie Spies said: "We will first wait for the dust to settle. You can't gauge it 10 minutes after the judgment."

  • JitteKerl - 2011-09-12 16:44

    sulking in a corner at his mom's place

      Phlegm - 2011-09-12 16:54

      Who really cares where Malema is?

      Neil - 2011-09-12 16:55

      Nope, what a coward does.. run like a dog,, with his tail between his legs.

      cliffarc - 2011-09-12 16:59

      - Invading Botswana ?

      Dougalan - 2011-09-12 17:02

      Yup, the brave umfaan is nowhere to be seen when the sh*t hits the fan. Never mind the 'Che Guevara' beret perched sideways on his fat head - he ain't no real warrior at all. Just loves the good capitalistic life while totally criticising it. How can people EVER follow this guy? What sort of an intellect do they have to think he is a real leader?

      King Cheetah - 2011-09-12 17:09

      Oiii JuJU was cutting my grass and washing my car and washing windows and picking up my pet droppings geez. U dont have to appear in a Civil matter ruling..

      beicime - 2011-09-12 17:22

      Preparing his response...

      Blougroen - 2011-09-12 17:27

      Hiding under his Trustfund ? . . . . .

      cliffarc - 2011-09-12 17:35

      - No, in his bunker.

      croix - 2011-09-12 21:13

      Hopefully lying in the morgue somewhere ???

      Amsterdammer - 2011-09-13 07:04

      Geo... he IS in the ARMS OF A YOUNG BOOI!

      Yomar Sapus - 2011-09-13 09:27

      Look under your dogs tail....

      Shukran - 2011-09-13 10:34

      Well said Cogito - I could not have said it better myself. I think quite a lot of these people are trolls living in Perthfontein, the UK or some other place they have run away to. I like to think/hope that the majority of whites do not share these views as I know that the majority of blacks do not hate all whites. BTW we are all Africans - Black, white, Indian, Coloured and whatever.

      Durbsdude - 2011-09-13 11:01

      He's done the chicken run back to his multimillion rand mansion. Probably drinking R1000 whiskey to drown his thoroughly beaten dignity.

      donns - 2011-09-13 12:21

      Probably in a tree

  • Ek_Ruik_Rot - 2011-09-12 16:45

    He used the court ruling as an excuse to miss his disciplinary hearing. I suspect he is on his way to Zimbabwe or Libya to join his chommies Mo and Mu...

      Oldbuck - 2011-09-12 17:20

      i dont think he understands the ruling and he is waiting for one of his more learned deciples to go and find an intelligent person to explain it to him

      mario88 - 2011-09-12 20:43

      :"defend the heritage of the ANC"- ha,ha... heritage of terrorists...and criminals.. Please give me a break

      Danny D - 2011-09-13 10:50

      @mario explain from your comment on the anc being terrorists. I dont think you know anything about the struggle. Your school history books has misled you, i doubt whether you studied any further to understand politics and the history of this country.

      David - 2011-09-13 14:12

      Danny D you have my support on that one!

  • Lyndatjie - 2011-09-12 16:46

    Somewhere not giving a toss about the ruling of a court he doesn't recognize because of its imperialistic nature and agents working for it. Guess he's busy enjoying the millions he didn't earn and the benefits he didn't work for.

      Honest Dude - 2011-09-12 16:51

      Maybe his brakes failed. We can only pray.

      Martin du Plessis - 2011-09-12 17:11

      But then the ground he'd be buried in would be blighted for centuries.

  • Barry - 2011-09-12 16:47

    Mal-Emma probably crawled back into the rat hole from whence He comes.

  • Fraudsters - 2011-09-12 16:48

    His with Gadaffi

      EqualStand.Org - 2011-09-12 18:11

      Actually, watch this playing out. Juju has no respect for the court so he doesn't pitch; the ANC now condemns the verdict, so the YL and the mother ANC are reconciling over this, meaning we can expect Juju to get away with his undisciplined behaviour tomorrow as it would otherwise split the ANC support, sending the YL to PAC or worse. JZ then calls his pal Moegoe (who was tweeted today as having said at church that he was now the 3rd most powerful man in the country) to cry FOUL because the judge was a white man.

  • bk - 2011-09-12 16:48

    yes! go into hiding and never come out of your hole you fat pig! you thought you would win and you guarenteed victory?? well buddy, YOUR GONNA LOSE,END OF STORY, FINISH AND KLAAR, ITS OVERS! >:) YOU ARE NOT ABOVE THE LAW!

  • willieman - 2011-09-12 16:48

    "We will defend the heritage of the ANC," You do not EVEN know the constitution of the ANC NIETHER OF ANCYL how are you going to defend the heritage

      Oldbuck - 2011-09-12 17:23

      the only thing that worries me is if they do defend it it will be at the axpence of the tax payer

      Isabel Jones - 2011-09-13 17:02

      Heritage is meant to be something one is proud to be associated with - noteworthy actions for the good of humankind and of benefit to all. Hmmm....

  • Dave - 2011-09-12 16:49

    sorting out the last few tenders before he leaves office.

  • DW - 2011-09-12 16:49

    "We will defend the heritage of the ANC" - but you are defending the "heritage" of the PAC as this never was an ANC song. Had Malema won, he would be crowing from the rooftops. I think he is embarrassed. Even the ANCYL is not saying anything - Floyd wont open his mouth now. He is hoping for a slap on the wrist tomorrow (suspended sentence). Then when Malema is suspended for 2 years (or thrown out), Floyd is hoping he can step into the position of ANCYL president. The only ones who have had anything to say is the ANC! Quite strange, really. But then, they did side with Malema in defense of the lawsuit, so I suppose they have to stand by their point of view.

  • Niknac - 2011-09-12 16:49

    Where is Juju?

      audi.quattro - 2011-09-13 23:02


      audi.quattro - 2011-09-13 23:02

      the hoping continues lol

  • pants - 2011-09-12 16:51

    Hahahahaahahahaha......fat boy running.

      Barry - 2011-09-13 12:21

      @ pants You mean FAT pig

  • Mart - 2011-09-12 16:52

    The ANC is defeated time and again on important issues such as this. When will they learn to accept these defeats like adults, build a bridge and get over themselves. This song 'may' have had relevance to them at some point 20 years ago, but is about as welcome in society today as the old South African flag is.

      Astaroth - 2011-09-12 17:04

      @Agwambo: Go play on a highway somewhere...

      Hempo - 2011-09-12 17:05

      Agdumbo - what about political emancipation for whites that had no part in apartheid? This country is for all of us but it sounds like you're hoping for a dictatorship, where you and your children will also be screwed in. We have so much we can achieve, your selfishness and daft emancipation talk is BS and counterproductive. Your anc is to blame for the current situation my brother.

      tryanything - 2011-09-12 17:17

      Agwambo please make sure its a troll road.

      Oldbuck - 2011-09-12 17:27

      agwambo,there is a resturant in the north west,i booked a table for you,40 of your brothers have already been there

      Trumpi - 2011-09-12 17:31

      @Agwambo: Google "Ad hominem" and then think about what you have done.

      tailormade - 2011-09-12 17:33

      Agwambo, "political emancipation"??????????????? Last time I checked, we're a democracy.

      Jannie - 2011-09-12 18:09

      agwambo. My kid is 7years old and he's got more intelligent arguments than you. How old are you anyway, because if you are the same age or younger as your idiotic leader you are also to young claiming to be part of the "struggle".

      Sage - 2011-09-12 18:11

      Ngqeku, if what you say is fact, then you've just proved that the ANC has no respect for the law!

  • Marieta - 2011-09-12 16:53

    Who cares, as long as he doesnt come back I'm happy :)

      King Cheetah - 2011-09-12 17:12

      hehe Marieeeee there is still meeee,so woops LOL

  • bonnyton - 2011-09-12 16:53

    Shoot the boer should be as prosecutable as the K word as they are both unacceptable, inflammatory and downright offensive.

      King Cheetah - 2011-09-12 17:13

      The K word is in the dictionary so stfu!!

      Ulindi - 2011-09-13 11:03

      @King Cheetah - you probably have an OLD dictionary...stuck in the OLD ways hey!? PS: there are a lot of other offensive words in dictionaries - its a book that describes's not a person insulting another, so words banned from "use" can still have a meaning....preserving heritage and all, you mos know that line all to well.

  • Juliana - 2011-09-12 16:54

    The coward is hiding in a hole somewhere......

  • Mart - 2011-09-12 16:54

    Julius was summonsed to appear before his Chinese handlers today to answer allegations that he is not following their script!

  • Hugh - 2011-09-12 16:55

    My understanding is that the ANC lied to the world in 1994 and again in 2000 when it said the Kill the boer was not one of their songs. Was that becuse they would have been seen by the world for waht they are a bunch of terrorists who just happend to fool the world.

  • Markal - 2011-09-12 16:56

    Counting his tender money...

  • Hempo - 2011-09-12 16:56

    Hopefully he needed a poo, found a really BIG toilet (one of them old fashioned ones with the chain-off-roof flushing system). He then slipped in and grabbed onto the chain as he fell. I can wish can't I?

      Barry - 2011-09-12 17:04

      @ Hempo I hope He stays down under with all the POO He has caused in our country.

      Hempo - 2011-09-12 17:07

      @Barry, I reckon he'll blend in quite well. No use going looking for him.

      tryanything - 2011-09-12 17:16

      With luck the Cistern falls on his head

      tryanything - 2011-09-12 18:46

      IF he is one of them that pulls the chain

  • Terminusest - 2011-09-12 16:58

    Isn't it odd that somehow SA's majority are incapable of racism? Apartheid makes it OK for them to practice the vilest forms of discrimination and xenophobia without any censure. It's just fine and dandy for them to spew their vitriolic garbage, but beware anyone criticizing them for it, because that is immediate discrimination.

  • Daveza - 2011-09-12 16:58

    Dear Mr Khoza I think you are a @#$%ing @#$% - but please take into account the context in which I say that.

  • shakuph - 2011-09-12 17:00

    is he wanted dead or alive? and wats 4 reward?

      Barry - 2011-09-12 17:07

      @shakuph Wanted alive...... Reward.....meaty tenders

      audi.quattro - 2011-09-13 23:05

      doesnt matter just deliver to a Limpopo boer

  • Gavin - 2011-09-12 17:00

    The Aliens returned him, but forgot to remove the anal probe.

      tailormade - 2011-09-12 17:35

      I didn't know Chuck Norris was an alien...

      Valis - 2011-09-12 17:47

      Lol, no. They returned the anal probe and kept Juliaas :P

      chris. - 2011-09-13 10:03

      Julias is an anal probe...

      Barry - 2011-09-13 12:29

      @ Valis Hope they "KEEP" Him forever. We don`t need muck like that down under.

  • Compassion - 2011-09-12 17:01

    Where was "mama Winnie" and entourage? I hate ALL forms of racism. I agree that each ethnic group should be able to keep (most part) their history, heritage, traditions. And everyone must compromise (make allowances) to discontinue usage, of any parts thereof, that can be seen as offensive to another ethnic group. Must South Africa first go the same route as Rwanda and the most of Africa - Starving (no farmers), Genocide (hate speech and murder), Breaking and burning down (no respect for others), what was built, by manual labour, and the blood and sweat of MOSTLY black South Africans. Using the “imperialistic whites” or “the black people” and apartheid, as an excuse when things don’t fall into someone’s lap. History cannot be rewritten. Only lessons can be learned from past, if those lessons WANT to be learned. The future will soon be part of history, can we then say, in 10 years’ time, or even NOW, we have not had any guidelines since 1994, to what is right or wrong, that we were treading on unknown ground. IT IS TIME, to learn from the past. Keep all the good, and let go of the bad memories from the past, and give credit where credit is due . Let us WORK together, take each other’s hand, rich and poor, ONE NATION - ONE SOUTH AFRICA. Let us show those whose who want to downgrade South Africa and her citizen’s, that they have no hope in HELL of success. EENDRAG MAAK MAG. UNITY IS STRENGTH

      standoff - 2011-09-12 18:19

      Nicely put. I'm sure most right thinking South Africans agree with you.

  • AntiRacist - 2011-09-12 17:01

    He is trying to rally a rent a crowd lol

  • Tokkel Loshi - 2011-09-12 17:04

    Busy learning siembamba bring me my rattle so he has somthing to sing next time he sees he's 37 year old youths !!!

  • Vela Stardust - 2011-09-12 17:06

    Who cares where motormouth Malema is. If I never hear or see him again ever it will be too soon. We would all be a happier and relaxed country if a total ban was placed on anything ever being published or screened on Malema.

      Moonshine - 2011-09-12 18:23

      Agree 100%. Ignore him.

  • Slapper - 2011-09-12 17:07

    He just found out that he is not beyond the Law and is probably steeped in a bottle of Blue Lable. No Bells for him.

      audi.quattro - 2011-09-13 23:06

      but now anc is behind him... and they have their judge

  • kleinkoppi - 2011-09-12 17:07

    He's hiding in his bunker....

  • Coconut - 2011-09-12 17:11

    He has gone to buy shares in Vaseline Limited. After all where he's going he is surely going to need quite a bit of it.

  • David - 2011-09-12 17:13

    How could any reasonable person not think shoot the boer and calling a boer a rapist is not insightful and damaging, yet using the k word ends a white mans career and creates heavy criticism, while in that "context" like the singing the k word means you "idiot", "moron", "doos" and do on. The double standards have to go in this country or we will never be united and bloodshed will follow down the line.

  • Mlu - 2011-09-12 17:13

    Juju has not gone to hiding. He is reading the Concise Oxford Dictionary and a Pedi/English Dictionary to look for alternative words to Kill the Boer, Nationalisation, Economic Freedom Fighter, etc. Once he returns, he will be blazing from his mouth with a completely new vocabulary. Brace yourselves!!

      Barry - 2011-09-13 12:38

      @ Mlu Read ? I never knew He could READ???? and still something as intensive as the Oxford...... I always knew Him to be a humble woodworker (for our International bloggers this word (woodworker)translated into Afrikaans means HOUTKOP) In plain and simple South African lingo this means somone without any braincells what-so-ever.

  • KFACTOR - 2011-09-12 17:17

    Guys, I've been black for a while now, and a did my bit in the struggle, but please help me out: in which context would "shoot the boer" have any different meaning? Stupid me!

      Oldbuck - 2011-09-12 19:12

      if the boer was black

  • Nchilo - 2011-09-12 17:18


      Oldbuck - 2011-09-12 19:06

      zumas 30th wife

  • Marc - 2011-09-12 17:20

    Apartheid died 20 years ago. Malema doesnt know this, but he continues to fight ghosts.

      PietPompies - 2011-09-12 19:35

      Apartheid is very much alive and well.

      audi.quattro - 2011-09-13 23:07

      @PP, apartheid against whites is all thats alive atm

  • beicime - 2011-09-12 17:22

    Preparing his response...

  • Newsfollower - 2011-09-12 17:23

    He aint above the law!!!!!

  • amabok - 2011-09-12 17:29

    He's a little bitch.

      Newsfollower - 2011-09-12 17:48

      and running

  • Lize Du Plessis - 2011-09-12 17:31

    So the one case against him is postponed so he can attend the other case against him, and he simply doesn't show? Really? And while all this is going on, every black supporter thinks it's an outrage that he was found guilty, but Darren Scott says ONE WORD at a private function and he loses. Double standards. These people are cowards. How does kill the Zulu kill the Xhosa sound?

      Jannie - 2011-09-12 18:30

      Don't you know there are black farmers too these days, so he must be a dictator like sadam by already claiming to start killing his own people too.

      PietPompies - 2011-09-12 19:38

      Blame Darren's erstwhile employer for the double standards.

  • Moeks - 2011-09-12 17:32

    Well done Afriforum. This was well worth the money spent!!!

      Ngqeku - 2011-09-12 17:41

      Afriforum aint achieved anything here moron.

      amabok - 2011-09-12 17:55

      Ngqeku you're next.

      Jannie - 2011-09-12 18:32

      ngqeku. Go pay your taxes and shut it.

      Oldbuck - 2011-09-12 19:09

      @ngqeku - it brought you out of the woodwork,next time dont swear me,you sound intelligent work out a comeback

      Barry - 2011-09-13 12:41

      @ Jannie Ngqeku does not pay any taxes He sells dagga for a living.

  • Agent Rascal - 2011-09-12 17:34


      shaun.cousins1 - 2011-09-12 17:47

      Del la Rey, Del la Rey...

  • Verdade - 2011-09-12 17:38

    I hope they don't find him.... The world can only be a better place without this knuckle dragger!

  • Frans Smith - 2011-09-12 17:38

    the sad part is that him and his uneducated cronies wont respect this ruling (as allready been done outside the court) and in this lawless country laws and rulings means nothing; i.e. zuma, shabir sheik, malema, winnie mandela, and just about the entire anc and ancyl. this would have meant something in a 1st world country where the rule of law is respected and justice is delivered.

  • Brainbow - 2011-09-12 17:39

    Where is Julius? On his way to jail, albeit the scenic route.......

  • Jannie - 2011-09-12 17:45


      Newsfollower - 2011-09-12 17:50

      all true what you said

      Tina - 2011-09-13 00:11

      Calm down. You are breaking your keyboard and Julius will not buy you a new one.

  • To The Point - 2011-09-12 17:47

    He cannot read so that will be his excuse for missing his court appearance, besides not being able to read or think he has no respect for the court, others or himself. Look at the man not even a parent could love that balloon head and its dumb expressions. Those who believe that song has any traditional value or credibility that will honour their ancestry or liberate them, proves how primitive some people still remain in 2011. GOD help this world.

  • Rusty - 2011-09-12 17:47

    By now, after the ANC diciplinary proceedings and the High Court judgment, I think the score is: Decent, law abiding and peace loving South Africans - 3. Malema - NIL. Fatso: one more strike and you are OUT!! :-)

  • Charmaine Edwards - 2011-09-12 17:48

    Ephesians 2:14-15 For he himself is our peace, who has made the two groups one and has destroyed the barrier, the dividing wall of hostility, by setting aside in his flesh the law with its commands and regulations. His purpose was to create in himself one new humanity out of the two, thus making peace

  • Charmaine Edwards - 2011-09-12 17:48

    Ephesians 2:14-15 For he himself is our peace, who has made the two groups one and has destroyed the barrier, the dividing wall of hostility, by setting aside in his flesh the law with its commands and regulations. His purpose was to create in himself one new humanity out of the two, thus making peace NIV

  • To The Point - 2011-09-12 17:53

    If your parents made you look like Julius Malema would you not be bitter and hate all whites and the rest of the world?