ANC disrespecting Mandela family - Winnie

2012-07-10 21:06

Cape Town - The African National Congress, under President Jacob Zuma's leadership, has been accused of disrespecting the Mandela family, the Mail & Guardian (M&G) has reported.

Winnie Madikizela-Mandela, in a response to a request from Luthuli House to meet with the family to discuss Tuesday's ANC centenary celebrations, where President Jacob Zuma was to deliver a lecture on Nelson Mandela, rejected the party's proposal for a number of reasons but that "hundreds more" existed.

She said in an e-mail addressed to ANC spokesperson Jackson Mthembu that in the past the ANC "never had any interest in celebrating Tata's [Mandela's] birthday except to gate crash on the family's arrangements" and that its attitude towards the family proved that "we do not matter at all", the report said.

Madikizela-Mandela claimed the the family was still grappling with the most shabby treatment throughout the years, according to the M&G.

She was especially upset about events in Mangaung in January this year.

"As I indicated we are deeply hurt as the family. We did not even have a table and the situation was saved by Mrs Bridgette Radebe," she wrote.

"No one has cared to establish how we are doing as a family. It is quite clear that we do not matter at all, we only do when we have to be used for some agenda."

A spectator

Madikizela-Mandela said she was "surprised" when the ANC approached her to be part of the centenary celebrations because "in 2011 when you were preparing for 2012, I was a spectator throughout".

The M&G reported that she took issue with the fact that no official from Luthuli House was present when the centenary flame was brought to her, and that instead the national leaders left the job to the provincial leaders.

"It was clear that a certain faction fought for it to be brought to me. Even more alarming was that the manner in which the centenary flame was brought to Tata left much to be desired.

"There was no parade of the soldiers as there was to me. It was clear that it was done for someone's ego, not to the family," the report said

Madikizela-Mandela also condemned the ANC for purporting to care about her well-being.

Neither Zuma nor spokesperson Mthembu visited her when she was in hospital, let alone called her to wish her a speedy recovery, she wrote.

"I have been in and out of hospital since January 25 this year, not even one phone call from Luthuli House.

"Instead you [Mthembu] gave an interview saying I was recuperating from an ankle operation when you did not even care what kind of an operation I had.

"I never had an ankle operation, I had a knee operation," she said.

Mthembu said the ANC would not be commenting on the matter.

  • JohncarlosBiza - 2012-07-10 21:12

    A perfect analogy of what the ANC has become in the past couple of years. It is all about them now and no-one else

      Squeegee - 2012-07-10 21:14

      Oh, Please. She is just missing out on the gravy. Zipper has so many relatives there is just not enough to go around.

      lessy.lester - 2012-07-10 22:58

      The one that has the disrespected the Mandela name MORE than anyone else in the world, is this MURDERESS! Not to mention her affairs - 2012-07-10 23:15

      no-one cares Winnie they just interested in getting their grubby hands on the tax payers money. ha ha life is a bit@h

      Stille - 2012-07-11 08:51

      Does the anc care about my family? No. So you and your family can all rot in hell.

      Mark - 2012-07-11 09:34

      This means nothing if you can't stop 'them' wheeling Nelson around come election time in the most disgusting vote-grabbing spectacle since the last election. Also, please come out and condemn 'the leadership' when they spew vomit-like statements such as 'Not voting for the ANC is going to kill Mandela'. Until such time as you embark upon these courses of action, kindly refrain from bothering us with empty rhetoric.

      letlhogonolo.sealetsa - 2012-07-11 12:35

      @StilleWaters - what has your family done for this country? better yet what have done for your country?

      liana.loots - 2012-07-11 12:49

      as I said before, who cares that it is his birthday. It means nothing to me

      denise.ryan.5203 - 2012-07-11 16:16

      It's a Xhosa-Zulu tribal war. The ANC was originally predominately made up of the Xhosa tribe. During the ANC take over of South Africa, armed Zulus from the IFP battled armed members of the ANC. Winnie Mandela called on ANC supporters to “necklace” fellow Africans who opposed them. This meant putting a gasoline soaked tire around their necks and lighting it on fire. Many of the victims of this were Zulus. It had long been feared that the end of Apartheid would bring a war between Xhosa and Zulu. Once the fierce enemy of the ANC, the Zulus are now in control of the party and Zuma is SA's first Zulu president. Tribal rivalries have shaped SA politics since the turn-over of 1994, and were made visible when president Thabo Mbeki was ousted in 2008 and replaced with Jacob Zuma. Mbeki is from the Xhosa tribe, and Zuma is a Zulu. Nelson Mandela, Steve Biko, Desmond Tutu, and Winnie Mandela all come from the Xhosa tribe.

      vdwjasper - 2012-07-12 10:47

      Fark me Denise. Where did you get all that? It's like somebody had cut the You magazine in pieces for you and you slowly had to rebuild it like a jigsaw puzzle... except it seems the bastards did not give you the corner pieces.

  • Lacrimose - 2012-07-10 21:20

    On a wry note, I think Madiba would have been at the very least distressed seeing a parade of soldiers bringing a torch. Trust Winnie to turn what was no doubt a well-thought out protocol into another opportunity to get her face on the interweb.

  • PaulGBoyd1 - 2012-07-10 21:22

    What is it with this woman still trying to leech off of the Mandela legacy!

      steve.gibson.146612 - 2012-07-11 17:14

      And then her protege JU JU is thrown out of the ANC!!!!!!

  • Henk - 2012-07-10 21:22

    So? In 20 years from now the ANC is going to be history!W

  • provence.poppies - 2012-07-10 21:27

    Shows the ANC don't know their cars from their elbow

      TheMcAttack - 2012-07-11 12:06

      good one!

  • marumobongani - 2012-07-10 21:31

    this is quiet sensitive I believe it could been solved in a private manner but as a reader I couldnt stop reading and commenting anyway this is shameful situation

      Lacrimose - 2012-07-10 21:40

      It was a smokescreen to complain that she had a knee operation not an ankle operation.

      ackwell - 2012-07-10 21:58

      It was a brain op but they found only a tiny piece in the ankle

      gail.hayesbean - 2012-07-11 11:20

      While I have absolutely no time for this woman and debated with myself about commenting, I tend to agree with you that this is a sensitive matter which Winnie should have approached her party with and not the press. I really don't understand why she is speaking for her ex-husband as he has asked to be left in peace and in all probability the no soldiers was a cost and also personal request from a concerned and dignified man who has seen his legacy almost destroyed by the clowns in charge of what he was prepared to die for. I understand why Nelson divorced her and married again as I also understand why he has asked not to be paraded as a symbol of what the ANC used to stand for. Winnie is an embarrassment to South Africa and she is getting old and feeling neglected and a knee op is very debilitating as I know from my own mother who received treatment at a govt hospital for a broken kneecap when she was 80. It's tough geting sidelined Winnie - but take comfort from the fact that you are going to Private Hospitals at least and living the life many whites would envy you. Growing old is not for sissies who are free only because they got others to do their dirty work when they were younger. I was a schoolgirl when Nelson was imprisoned and much was banned by Nationalists in charge then. Unfortunately my dea we have Nationalists in charge now who are actually worse than then and see you as past your sell by date and only likely to bring disrepute to them. Be thankful for freedom.

  • THABOM85 - 2012-07-10 21:33

    This is not about the Mandela family, but Winnie's little battles with members of the executive within the party. She must just fight her own battles and leave the family name out of this.

      johan.maree.5036 - 2012-07-11 09:04

      Mandela came out of prison after 27 year, I think it was only two years and he said, "I can't take this women, I want a divorce!", shame, she just wants to be in the lime light!

  • Hermann - 2012-07-10 21:34

    Ego versus ego.

  • Lindelwa - 2012-07-10 21:34

    Things fall apart!! Let them continue fighting amongst each other so that they can lose the next election!!

  • Pieter - 2012-07-10 21:34

    Kry vir Jou!

  • themba.thwala.98 - 2012-07-10 21:34

    Move over everyone! It's Zuma's time! Khulubuse Zuma transformed himself from a taxi boss to a mining tycoon, Duduzane Zuma (JZ`s son) from a jobless young man who could not even be short listed for job interviews to a millionaire, Duduzile Zuma (JZ`s daughter) emerged from obscurity to a “savvy” business woman!

      liana.loots - 2012-07-10 21:52

      themba, they are usurpers and we can do nothing about it.

      neville.watson.94 - 2012-07-10 22:19

      In the meantime the followers stay poor

      vlarismam - 2012-07-11 12:23

      Yup - amazing what you can do when you have that name... and the taxpayer's money :(

  • matt.cumming.77 - 2012-07-10 21:35

    What an entitled arrogant woman. Give Mandela the fanfare but i can guarantee he would not have enjoyed it. Far more humble than her.

  • nhlanhla.mnguni.35 - 2012-07-10 21:40

    This is a lesson to ANC Leaders to start respecting the Elders of the Family ,look Mamas crying not from knee pains but from Protocol,u guys take Care of the Seniors!!

      ron.wale.3 - 2012-07-10 22:17

      Does this include the EX-Elders of the Family? Madikizela is no longer family of the Mandelas.

      dave.prinsloo - 2012-07-10 22:49

      hahahaha. Funny, nhlanhla

  • jacques.koorts - 2012-07-10 21:42

    Nou weet jy ook hoe dit voel.

  • nhlanhla.mnguni.35 - 2012-07-10 21:42

    Eishh ,a second thot tells me Mama is Misfiring due to sacking of her Bosom Cde Juju,if dats d case No wonder she will c nothing good about the present Leadership including the NEC,poor Mama!!

      marcus.makasi - 2012-07-11 00:13

      you are crazy mfe2,mama winnie is rite, cum mangaung you'll cee ur zuma wil be history

  • mundu.olewega - 2012-07-10 21:50

    Now she get's it!! Imagine how little the ANC cares for the rest of the citizens of SA.

      ako.gutshwa.7 - 2012-07-10 21:56

      Good one Mundu!!

      liana.loots - 2012-07-10 21:57

      mundu, as a matter of interest, do you vote for the anc?

      mundu.olewega - 2012-07-10 22:35

      Hell no! I shot at the ANC once but never voted for them. Much more fun shooting them.

  • mthokozisi.madlala.7 - 2012-07-10 21:51

    this!! isn't Grace the wife of Mandela!!

      letlhogonolo.selebalo - 2012-07-10 22:46

      she's still the mother of the kids, the link will never break, she's still the daughtr inlaw. with africans is lyk that-my still visit my dads family ever 19 after it ended-they still c ha as a daughter inlaw.

      raath - 2012-07-11 07:41

      and believe you me, she is going to ride and milk that for as long as she can - she is a parasite, not only on the Mandela family, but on the nation.

      steve.gibson.146612 - 2012-07-11 17:21

      And whatb a graceful LADY!!!!

  • martin.williams.73113 - 2012-07-10 21:51

    Hubris, hubris, hubris

  • bandile.poopalot - 2012-07-10 22:02

    Erm... Mandela married this cow... clever (NOT!) sucker that he is.

  • cliff.slabbert - 2012-07-10 22:03

    Doe's she ever care about Stompie's family ?

      ron.wale.3 - 2012-07-10 22:24

      Good point! Does the murderer ever care about the victim's family? Madikizela should rot in jail. In fact, I hope someone hauls her to The Hague to answer for her crimes against humanity! She will pay eventually!

  • mlulami.dike - 2012-07-10 22:08

    That's true mam'uWinnie...The ANC only cares about the "Mandela family" in such occasions this.I give you five fingers for not attending the lecture and you'll always be our leader,no matter who says what.Well done and I wish you many more years to come.Viva comrde,viva!!

      thando.ramncwana - 2012-07-11 00:29

      Mludja iyaxoka uWinnie.......she is tlkn frm her factional reference, wht 'Mandela' family is she refering to that ayihoywanga??....uMandla Mandela yinton epalamente?...yipipi okanye yiMP? She did this during era kaTboz and he sorted her out. We know scandals zakhe thina, its due to the ANC's support that she is an NEC member. She mustnt test our patience, ucinga y did uDiba had to part ways naye??

      jenny.webbe - 2012-07-11 11:07

      She said recently that Mandela should apologise to black south africans for reconciling the country and not creating a civil war against the whites. Was that what she calls respect for Madiba?

      TheMcAttack - 2012-07-11 12:09

      And i'll give her the 5 middle fingers she deserves, the fat, lazy, free-loading murderer that she is!

  • thabo.swafo - 2012-07-10 22:15

    Viva Winnie Mandela viva!thats true,as we said that,the ANC under Zuma is in serious crisis.They put ANC in their pockets.ANC today is like feeding scheme or a support group,which is owened by individuals,our liberation movement today is in trouble,because it doesnt have a president and secretary to lead this organisation to its mission.

      vdwjasper - 2012-07-12 11:58

      Eh, what mission?

      vdwjasper - 2012-07-12 11:59

      Black Ops. Lol

  • matvee111 - 2012-07-10 22:18

    WHO U FOOLIN'ur de NEC member of the ANC u bashing,if u aint seen kissin Zooma,its JUJU,we don't even know what u stand 4...UR VERY MUCH PART OF THIS BAD ANC...SO STOP BEATIN URSELF UP...

  • nelson.maboko - 2012-07-10 22:20

    This kind of treatment is not new and the Mandela family is not the first and probably will not be the last to be brushed aside by ANC. It hurts now because it is happening to Mandelas, but it is normal for this sold-out ANC to forget struggle heroes. I even heard Mantashe once saying families of struggle hereos should seek for recognition at branch level and their own political parties if they were not ANC Cadres. Very sad, but it is the ANC of today.

      ndlovu.bhekinkosi - 2012-07-11 05:30

      enjoying respect at the expense of the new generation is like destroying their ideas ,, i gues a normal person will agree that everyone has a term to play b4 his or her term is up ,, its hightime we shud be barking for the new generation now

  • willie.dique - 2012-07-10 22:26

    The gravytrain has missed her station.....Nobody was there to escort her. She is the biggest loser in the Mandela family - She don't deserve the name "Mandela". She is a disgrace to the family name of Mandela.

      gail.hayesbean - 2012-07-11 11:38

      You know I don't think that is strictly fair since it was her rabblerousing and matches and tyres which kept Nelson's name in the spotlight during the years of Robben island because of their shock value. She has however been sidelined now and is a bitter women growing old. The difference between them is that HE was prepared to DIE for his beliefs while she encourages still that people be KILLED. She likes the limelight whatever it takes while he is content to spend his last years quietly and let the future make its own mistakes.

  • eric.schollar - 2012-07-10 22:26

    Madam Matchsticks is still around? Dreadful noxious creature!

  • magomarele - 2012-07-10 22:32

    how embarrassing for ANC to claim someone is recuperating well fron angle injury while she actually had knee operation.

      gail.hayesbean - 2012-07-11 11:40

      More so than not being able to get schoolbooks to kids in Limpopo or Eastern Cape? If she wants to be heard why isn't she demanding that Matshekgo step down?

  • ditoare.gypsy - 2012-07-10 22:41

    Can Anyone read the DIVORCEE's rights for me pleeeeeeeeeeeeze

      jaysonpaul.beckwith - 2012-07-10 23:24

      The guy always gets screwed.

      jaysonpaul.beckwith - 2012-07-10 23:34

      That could be a reaLly long process. Its not worth the stress.

  • jaysonpaul.beckwith - 2012-07-10 22:47

    A murdering cow that rides on the shoulders of a great man. Deserves no respect from anybody. Crawl in a hole and die.

  • Gerald Jordaan - 2012-07-10 22:49

    Factionalism is tearing the ANC apart..was watching the news with Zuma delivering his Nelson Mandela lecture..what a fiasco..reminded me of footage of the BROWN SHIRTS beating and kicking Jews and non Nazi's in post war Germany!!

      alon.fisher.752 - 2012-07-11 11:33

      The ANCYL are starting to behave more and more like the Hitler Youth.

  • maggsie - 2012-07-10 23:07

    oh boo hoo! There are bigger problems to worry about in this country than your ego.

  • maggsie - 2012-07-10 23:07

    oh boo hoo! There are bigger problems to worry about in this country than your bruised ego.

      jaysonpaul.beckwith - 2012-07-10 23:10


  • rocky.bell.927 - 2012-07-10 23:11

    We don't need to worry about the anc. They are devouring one another quicker than the voter can make a cross on the ballot paper. A few more years and we will be rid of this cANCer in our midst. At least the world gets to know what gemors they supported all those years. Two Trillion Rand squandered, yes R2,000,000,000,000, since 1994. How disgusting can it get? They worried about the poor. LMFAO. Hypocrite gets a total new meaning Winnie the Poo. Co-accused in a murder case, convicted fraudster, banned from Canada etc etc etc. Mamma "Matches & Tyres" - head clown in the ANCircus – you should return to Brandfort under house arrest - what a looser!!!!

  • ayandab3 - 2012-07-10 23:13

    i just wonder why the double barrel surname even now. how long has it been?

  • Tommo - 2012-07-10 23:45

    I really liked this. If there is somebody who can hurt the ANC, she is the one.

  • thulanit3 - 2012-07-10 23:53

    She is grieved and heart-broken

      gail.hayesbean - 2012-07-11 11:43

      She has much to be grieved and heartbroken about - let's face it. I don't know how she sleeps at night.

  • Millos Mpofu - 2012-07-10 23:55

    Maybe Stompie is alive maybe he can solve our problem as poor.Why she cry because she is in the national committee of the ANC.

  • thando.ramncwana - 2012-07-11 00:16

    Besides former pres Tboz had various resevations towards cde Winnie nd her ben 10 brigade...

  • keith.ngobeni - 2012-07-11 00:42

    Winnie is barking loudly because Jacob Zuma is no longer bonking her and he has stopped sneaking at her Soweto home at night time, her raging has got nothing to do with the ANC neglecting the mandela's, if that was the case graca machel is there to talk about the matter on behalf of the mandela's.

      mikey.soulz.5 - 2012-07-11 03:51


  • deus.exmachina.58367 - 2012-07-11 04:52

    Eish...methinks someone is going to get a necklaced. Bring the matches!

  • ndlovu.bhekinkosi - 2012-07-11 05:24

    i dont see anything wrong with that winnie, the problem with you africans is that you like to be respected all the time ,, i gues your time is up, you recieved your respect during apartheid thats it ,, you shoud learn that ther is also a new generation that shud also play a party as well. enjoying respect is also very dangerous it promotes corruption ,, You shud also learn that ther are some other pple like you who deserve the same respect as you ,, Hamba mum uyogcina abazukulu ugugile shame!!!

  • vincent.vinsaint - 2012-07-11 05:25

    Mthembu's not paying attention to details...typical. As for Mandela, he isn't the only struggle hero, please give others a spot light. We have most things named after him and now others wanna take this even further! SA, please we living and breathing the a bread after him?! Hayikhona, Sasko or Albany for me please.

  • Steven Trollip - 2012-07-11 05:51

    Please shutt this things mouth

  • Andre Van Zyl - 2012-07-11 05:52

    Ag shame Winnie, do you need a hug? How about a tender...

  • - 2012-07-11 06:16

    Is she still a family member?

  • john.lonsdale.5 - 2012-07-11 06:48

    Join the rest of us, they didn't ask after my health when I had been in hospital for a knee operation, they didn't even bring the torch to my house, so you should think yourself lucky. All they do is take nearly 70% of my wages in taxes and tolls to go on the piss with and don't even invite me along? So stop whining Winnie.

  • Gregory Jurgens - 2012-07-11 06:49

    The ANC kept you out of jail. Be grateful, retire gracefully, you don't want to be remembered as the bitching old bag.

  • Zama - 2012-07-11 06:59

    Sorry mama on behalf of The ANC I Apologise. The last time Mama you sad ANC don't belong to no body even Madiba, now you sad Mthebu did not do this and that now is the ANC please if ANC would come and do all of this you would call for police and defense force. Mthembu is an individual not ANC so please don't start

  • fezile.somraba - 2012-07-11 07:04

    it is really amusing 2 listen 2 jackson mthembu when he is speaking what is the point of taking the tourch 2 different provinces if people from other provinces are also expected 2 attend the understand is that it is to gv each province a chance 2 celebrate the anc is ashame 2 hear that in limpopo during the centenary celebration where zuma was also expected 2 gv a lecture abt nelson mandela people were buse in from kzn and mpumalanga so that ppl (members of the anc) from that province will be denied their political right 2 listen 2 the president of their party bcz they were scared of cde malema supporters.there is no way mangaung is jus around the corner it's better 2 die now than 2 wait 4 the mangaung aluta continua.mama winnie and mandela family deserve respect.they have worked 4 this country

  • Ntuthuko M Simelane - 2012-07-11 07:09

    And none realize the actual intent, Winnie does not care about what Zuma and his ass kissers do, the aim is to turn a few against him. Beware 'the Tokyo tactics'