Winnie wraps up testimony for Malema

2011-10-26 15:58

Johannesburg - ANC stalwart Winnie Madikizela-Mandela finished testifying in ANC youth league leader Julius Malema's disciplinary hearing on Wednesday afternoon.

The former first lady was the final witness to testify in Malema's favour, said ANC national executive committee (NEC) member and disciplinary committee chair Derek Hanekom.

"This brings us to the end of the proceedings in terms of the giving of evidence," he said.

"Closing arguments will be heard on November 3, followed by the drafting of the disciplinary committee's ruling on all cases."

Hanekom said the committee had already started drafting a ruling on three of the cases.

"We will have final deliberations as the NEC, make final findings, and decide on penalties if any. The ruling will be announced not too long after the closing arguments," he said.

"We have to deliberate properly and write up the ruling."

For and against

Malema's disciplinary hearing took place at the FNB Stadium in Nasrec, Johannesburg on Wednesday morning.

Madikizela-Mandela's role was to clarify the position of the youth dating back to the 1950s.

ANC NEC member Tony Yengeni did not testify in favour of Malema, as has been speculated.

Human Settlements Minister and ANC NEC member Tokyo Sexwale reportedly testified in Malema's defence at the last hearing on October 15.

The hearing was postponed from October 6 to 15 after Malema was hospitalised with "flu symptoms" in Polokwane earlier this month.

Former youth league leaders Fikile Mbalula and Rapu Molekane have also reportedly testified on Malema's behalf.

He faces charges of bringing the ANC into disrepute and sowing division within party ranks.

Malema said the ANCYL would send a team to Botswana to consolidate local opposition parties and help bring about regime change.

Charged with him are ANCYL spokesperson Floyd Shivambu, deputy president Ronald Lamola, treasurer general Pule Mabe, secretary general Sindiso Magaqa, and deputy secretary general Kenetswe Mosenogi.

ANC spokesperson Keith Khoza said ANC secretary general Gwede Mantashe had previously testified against Malema.

Mantashe was reportedly joined by ANC chair Baleka Mbete and ANC spokesperson Jackson Mthembu.

  • Sharmay - 2011-10-26 16:04

    "We will have final deliberations as the NEC, make final findings, and decide on penalties if any. The ruling will be announced not too long after the closing arguments," he said. Penalties if any? I hope there are penalties and lots of them!

      George - 2011-10-26 16:34

      Good luck Juju

      Anthony - 2011-10-26 16:43

      support from winnieeeee must be like a reference from hitler-- fortunatly most decent minded people who are not criminals and are morale and upstanding [around the world ] know that this support does not even equal a reference if it was written on toilet tissue sad for nelson ---but after all he divorced her quickly --as you know she is on record as saying he [nelson] sold out his people and did not demand and extract more concessions and payments from whites in retribution-- the devil himself must feel threatened when jub jub and wineeee are in the same room

      Thandiwe - 2011-10-26 16:59

      Let us grow economically - the ANC needs to help the country do business - no need for any of this nationalisation. Let us add to what is already in the economy, not tear down what makes money and rebuild it badly. I am an economically free black woman. I am under 30, hvave set up a successful small manufacturing business, I have a small-holding and a few shares in JSE companies. Don't let Malema degrade you by telling you you cannot achieve what you want to economically - we are free to participate and succeed - start your small business today. He wants to get richer -that is all he is interested in - if he wanted to help the poor he would talk about education and support job creating, investment boosting, confidence boosting economic policies!

      Shadoz - 2011-10-26 17:15

      winnie how can they take the testimony of a lieing, murdering, thieving, corrupt, crack whore seriously? oh wait thats pretty much describes the whole of the ANC.

      Shadoz - 2011-10-26 17:18

      @Thandiwe I read your comments often and they make me feel good. When i read them i have a hope for S.A just knowing that not all black people want handouts and are willing to work for what you want. Keep up the good work. You are a star :)

      ttshabalala - 2011-10-26 17:19

      chaanning.froom, I don't think it's fair to claim the ANC supports Malema. First of all, Malema has publicly humiliated and degraded the President of the ANC, so, I honestly would not believe that Zuma himself would be in support of Malema. A lot of other ANC members are not in agreement with his way of doing things. The ANC itself is divided on the Malema issue. Let's wait and see what comes out of this. Look at what happened a few days ago with Sicelo Shiceka and Bheki Cele. Many did not believe the President would take that position but he did. Let's give this process a chance and make our statements based on facts.

      Thandiwe - 2011-10-26 17:52

      Because the comment still applies and I did not initially mean to comment on the ANC vets article due to it not being as significant as other articles such as this one. I apologise if this has caused you any offence!

      Levett - 2011-10-26 17:55

      You just getting boring, not offensive

      Colin - 2011-10-26 21:46

      as are you levet but everyone else has had the good grace not to point it out

  • Cape - 2011-10-26 16:09

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  • lourence.manyama - 2011-10-26 16:10

    No penalties

  • mastersvoice - 2011-10-26 16:10

    I wonder if her testament was something like "He is a good boy, not like that Stompie"...

  • Sam - 2011-10-26 16:11

    How come everyone who know ANC policies testify on Malema's behalf. Only the power hungry ones and the ones who don't the role of the ANC YL are testifying against him. Something is wrong with this pic...

  • Dave - 2011-10-26 16:12

    Isn't Winnie a convicted criminal as well ?.

      Paul - 2011-10-26 16:20

      Convicted criminal AND Member of Parliament. The mind boggles at how these processes can be rationalized and then allowed.

      sarah.bouttell - 2011-10-26 16:22

      Yep. Fraud and kidnapping.

      Dingaan - 2011-10-26 18:04

      you are just speaking rubbish,what is that?

      Mark - 2011-10-27 06:38

      Yip - no one in the struggle (apart from Madiba) has had the opportunities to take the "high road" that Winnie has(i.e by showing leadership, integrity and good judgement). Yet she never fails to choose the "low road".

  • Brad.Kopping - 2011-10-26 16:18

    its strange hw all the people testimonys are criminals. wankers.

  • Kgabo - 2011-10-26 16:21

    Winnie was at some point convicted,right? and now we have to listen to her saying(good about who? mxm, let me have my drink please..

  • Heinrich - 2011-10-26 16:30

    This man is a true leader of our people and I am very proud of him. Not only can he distinguish between Goodyear, Bridgestone, Yokohama, Firestone and a range of Chinese tyres in the dark of night, but with his woodworking skills he can make matches as well. His first match, which he started making in 2007, is due to be completed soon.

  • neilcohensa - 2011-10-26 16:31

    Since when is Winnie a former first-lady?????

  • Jeff - 2011-10-26 16:34

    I hope Stompie's spirit haunts her.

  • lourence.manyama - 2011-10-26 16:37

    Hands off Juju

      Heinrich - 2011-10-26 20:06

      Oh, don't be so superstitious. It is perfectly safe as long as you sterilize the gloves afterwards.

  • Cheryl - 2011-10-26 16:41

    Winnie and Yengeni should be on trial for bringing tha name of the great ANC into disrepute as they BOTH are convicted fraudsters ..WHAT ARE THEY DOING BEING IN CHARGE OF ANYTHING? HOW CAN YOU TRUST WHAT THEY SAY OR DO ANYMORE....wher are the morals and standards?

  • ben.nel2 - 2011-10-26 16:42

    "Malema said the ANCYL would send a team to Botswana to consolidate local opposition parties and help bring about regime change" News 24 copy and paste for the umpteenth time.

  • alansmart223 - 2011-10-26 16:42

    Winnie's testament for Mal Emmer shouldn't be taken seriously. After all she is a criminal.. remember the murder of "Stompie" If I remember correctly she was sentenced to 6 years for that. She was such an embarrassment to Madiba that he got rid of her. Dont know what happened to the prison sentence.. don't think she served one day!

      Sam - 2011-10-26 16:52

      Do you know Voter Bason? how many years did he serve again?

      Cheryl - 2011-10-26 17:24

      @sam, i agree wouter basson could have been punished more for his racist crimes. But Stompie was an african little boy, tortured to death by Winnies gangsters....I still dont know why she was let off -was she a paedophile maybe? winnie was also involved in alot of 'necklacing' like this woman?

      mastersvoice - 2011-10-26 17:34

      Wouter Basson. I remember him. He should be in jail too, along with most of the ANC "leadership". Winnie is still a convicted criminal though, because she'd been found guilty of a criminal act by a South African court of law.

      Sam - 2011-10-26 18:11

      Thats what Chris Hani and Biko have always been against. If it is an African he deserves to be punished. If your white you can even kill a cop on duty people will understand whatever reason you give. Bason killing thousands and Winnie killing one they are both murderous. HYPOCRITES!!!! u guys make me sick

      Levett - 2011-10-26 18:35

      @Sam: "Bason killing thousands"???? Bason is an innocent man as proved in court. You talk way too much for someone that don't know their facts.

      jody.beggs - 2011-11-02 15:07

      Wouter Basson is not a politician in the public eye last time I checked ! Maybe I'm wrong but if you want to be a ( leader / politician / public figure )you can't be morally bankrupt.

  • Alva - 2011-10-26 16:47

    The ANC must be brave and get rid of Malema. Of all the young people in ZAR, the biggest fool of all is ANCYL president. What a joke! Take him down! People are sick of his BS!

  • Jackie - 2011-10-26 16:50

    looks like winnie has found herself a new stompie to play with, pasop julius. she will stub you when done with you.

      leijn.tissink - 2011-10-26 17:41

      er dik stompie or cigar ???

  • Geoff - 2011-10-26 17:58

    @thandewe. I have found that black Africans in general, even those with a slight education (I mean not the Malema clowns)and under 30 have the right outlook. They look at what they have instead of what they don't have. They have a great sense of pride and achievement, and will be the new leaders of SA once the ANC falls apart. Nice to see Thandewe - lead the way.

  • Le - 2011-10-26 17:58

    Its fine to go back and talk about the youth league back in the 1950's, but the problem is we are not living in the 1950's anymore are we. Apartheid was abolished and the ANC is charged withe responsibility of not just running its own people but the entire country. Things have changed its time to stop this toi toi nonsense and causing millions in damage simply to prove a point , freedom was obtained now its time to actually do the work, stop spending millions on private jets , home renovations , 5 star hotel stays (due to mosquito's) and actually focus on creating good candidates for jobs. Acting like the only wealth this country has is its natural resources, have you ever asked yourselves that if and when you nationalize the mines and finally pulled the last bit of gold out of the soil , what then ? South Africa has so much more potential , start spending that corruption money into actual sustainable industry and growth. And those kids that's throwing rocks at police cars in the middle of Johannesburg in so called protests, you bring shame to your family and to your country. You know why white people are ahead ? its because my parents actually cared enough and would have beat me half to death if i did such a thing.

  • George - 2011-10-26 18:30

    Evil personified!

  • Errol - 2011-10-26 18:43

    When I 'grow up',I'd love to understand ANC internal politics!!

  • Eddie - 2011-10-26 18:59

    One criminal being a character witness for another criminal!! What bull.

  • Madulla - 2011-10-26 19:04

    Call Madikizela-Mandela anything but please don't refer to her as "The former first lady". A women she may be, but a 'lady', she never was.

  • Winsome - 2011-10-26 19:10

    Winnie M Mandela is a convicted criminal herself - how is she a credible witness - but then look who she is tesitfying for! The whole thing is a huge farce.

  • Wayne - 2011-10-26 19:49

    Zuma growing a Spine and the ANC NEC growing some b@lls... hmmm... methinks 1 out of two is plausible... but we shall see... !!!

  • John - 2011-10-26 20:36

    n 1993 3 top South African communists went to Russia ( not USSR anymore ) and were told that the central control economy of Stalin did not work. The "national democratic revolution" (NDR) central control of the economy of Julius Malema DOES NOT WORK.

  • John - 2011-10-26 20:51

    JM really is scrapping the bottom of the barrel with Winnie as a spokesperson on his behalf..Another new low..

  • neo.giftgee - 2011-10-26 22:48

    In Animal Farm all the animals worked together to outcast Mr. Jones. But at the end the animals did not realize that they were helping the pigs to enrich themselves. Malema's objectives are unrealistic. He seems to act like an opposition government nor party. The people who seem to support his dream are very questionable role models. One of them 'Ghaddafi' is already dead. Home and away he is flanked by wrong advisers who have fast tracked he political dream to downfall.

  • Skhanyo - 2011-10-26 23:51

    Winnie the only one I trust to never give into the agenda of the oppressors, we live in the era where the people who have oppressed us for many years now pretend to be the people who know what is best for us! how crazy is that? The struggle continues!! Maybe we still have to go back to exile!

      jody.beggs - 2011-11-02 15:20

      The struggle is in your head and with your ANC leaders not white civilians ! You are not oppressed, if you feel you are its by the current cANCer government . Take it up with them.....

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