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Zille: Freedom must mean a better life

2012-11-24 11:48

Johannesburg - Freedom means nothing unless you can use it to build a better life, Democratic Alliance leader Helen Zille said on Saturday.

"Freedom means little if you cannot find a job. Freedom means even less if our children have no textbooks," she told delegates at the party's federal congress in Boksburg, east of Johannesburg.

"Freedom means nothing if it gives politicians license to steal people's money."

Zille said freedom lost its value when people lived in constant fear of criminals, and those who suffered under apartheid remained trapped in poverty.

She said there were many people who had not yet used their freedom.

"Many of them are unemployed. Some live in informal settlements without services... Intlupheko ibuhlungu [poverty is painful] and the gap between the rich and poor is much too wide," she said.

Zille said if somebody gained a little more freedom, they were to use it to build a better life and to transform society.

She also said there was a myth that Cape Town was more unequal than other South African cities.

"This is not true. Dis eenvoudig nie waar nie [This is simply not true]."

She told delegates the United Nations had published a report last year which showed there was a smaller gap between rich and poor in Cape Town than in any other city in the country.

"There is a long way to go but we are closing the gap between rich and poor. We will not stop working until everybody in South Africa has freedom they can use."

Comments
  • zeepolar - 2012-11-24 11:56

    great speech and it sounded genuine. i enjoyed watching her speak from the heart and not bend down to read something that was written by someone else. am not a member of the DA, but i was inspired by the racial composition of the DA. whether that's window dressing or not is not the issue, but i hope some of the racists here on News24 who claim to be DA members heard wat miss zille said: DA is not a party for a racists. it is those racists who prevent people like me from joining the DA, coz i know they are many and pretend to like their fellow black DA supporters. change ur ways, people.

      moriri.mosweu - 2012-11-24 12:01

      Yes you couldn't have said that better hellen. Now look back over your shoulder, can you see gugulethu? do you see a better life over there? Now your task is to free those poor people and stop your usual mouth dressing..

      clivegoss - 2012-11-24 12:04

      Racism is a mindset. Please change yours. Please note that the DA is a multi party grouping, and democracy means you can vote for who you like. Use your vote wisely.

      zeepolar - 2012-11-24 12:06

      who said i'm a member of the ANC?? can u not speak about the DA without mentioning the ANC?? and wow, danie, what makes me a fool??

      zeepolar - 2012-11-24 12:12

      and i said "the racists here on News24 who claim to be DA members" coz i read the comments on this site everyday. the genaralizations about black people are alarming. the same people who make those genaralizations then claim to be DA supporters. it's not in my mind. i see it on the comments section of most stories that have anything to do with farm murders, politics, failed business, crime. the stuff i read shocks me. am simply asking those who do that to change their ways and stop grouping black people under one umbrella. am not speaking about all white people, it appears u failed to read my post. it is those people who make us doubt the sincerity of some white DA supporters.

      patrick.mampane - 2012-11-24 12:12

      I was told by a friend the other day, that she wanted to join the DA. She says the only thing that is of great concern is that by so doing she would then have to share a political home with some souls that frequent this page. Needless to say, she confided that such a prospect is far from appealing.

      zeepolar - 2012-11-24 12:15

      true that, patrick. the racists on this page dont see the damage they are doing to ms zille's campaign. ai.

      zeepolar - 2012-11-24 12:19

      lol, semonatenate. hahahaha. blonde extentions?? coconut??? hahahahaha.who are you talking about, dear??

      zeepolar - 2012-11-24 12:22

      and the only reason i braid my hair is coz i have a job and am studying. i dont have time to comb an afro in the morning, mr Africa. got nothing to do with my personality. i am sorry to disappoint you, but i will never go for blonde. maybe ginger ;-)

      Erna - 2012-11-24 12:32

      Semona I am 100% sure that Helen is aware of the situation in Guguletho and that it is high on her list of priorities. However, while Gugs took many years to develop into the poverty stricken township it is today, it will also take many years, co-operation from national government and the local people, and tons of money to rectify the damage the NP and, more recently, the ANC, did there. The DA has only been in power in the WC for a relatively short time. The differenc between Helen Zille's speech and Zuma's is that hers is delivered with feeling, while Zuma just reads out a long list of platitudes without meaning or emotion. The only time I have noticed any emotion from our president is when he was defending Nkandla in parliament the other day.

      narike.lintvelt.9 - 2012-11-24 12:34

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      tiaan.vanderberg.75 - 2012-11-24 12:43

      Zeepolar. I am also concerned about the racial slants on this page from both whites and blacks. I wish people can simply take on the issue and leave the colour thing out of it.

      silvia.vaneck2 - 2012-11-24 12:49

      Zeepolar, Totally agree with you. Some of the comments are absolutely appalling...but then again I have seen this trend from both black and white folks. Maybe it is not a matter of colour but a matter of grey matter...or lack thereof??!!

      moriri.mosweu - 2012-11-24 13:08

      Claumedia and alex, typical da members,they cannot finish a sentence without telling people how to be..and claumedia your question what is hellen? you can ask again, to me it sounds like something that bites painfully..

      Andres - 2012-11-24 13:15

      Those who are racists of any kind do not belong in the DA... period! Vote with your head, not your skin and ignore those plagued by bigotry: their presumed political home does not reflect a failing on your part, it is their failing. Support whom you think will build the best South Africa, irrespective.

      luther.kingsley.5 - 2012-11-24 13:47

      Since the ANC came power in April 1994 how do their report card read in 2012 Despite all these achievements, 40% of the population or 20 million South Africans still live below the national poverty line. The healthcare system was "modernise" in the early 2000's,yet the infant mortality rate is still six times higher than the OECD countries by comparison. Similarly, 5.5 million South Africans have HIV/AIDS or 10.6% of South Africa's total population and 17% of their adult population lives with this dreadful illness. On average in South Africa you would currently live 18 to 20 years less than someone somewhere else the same age as you that lives in another country. With constant outbreaks of bickering, infighting and tensions between themselves and their affiliates,the ANC party's showy display of unity and "democracy" is creaking fast and like a ticking time bomb its just waiting to explode. The ANC has become a state within a State and a law unto themselves in less than 20 years time at the helm. Dan Sebabi, leader of Limpopo’s branch of Cosatu,says:"You have leaders in the ANC who are politicians by day and businessmen by night".

      omrisho.za - 2012-11-24 13:50

      patrick, what difference does it make if it is a party with white racists or black racists?? they remain racist parties... the enemy should be racism

      danie.strydom.7 - 2012-11-24 14:17

      @ Zeepolar ... amazing. So generalizing against black people, like removing the old SA flag, generalizing against the whites? People in glass houses my dear ... YOU ARE A FOOL because "who prevent people like me from joining the DA". You select your political motivation on the basis of there are racists in the DA. OMFG. Then no one should be able to vote ANC. AA, BEE and STUPID COSTLY name changes to towns and cities to try and destroy the history of the country. If all the tree huggers could just wake up and realize the reason even Nelson Mandela is so quiet is that he also KNOWS his ideals of a rainbow nation has been destroyed already by the ANC. And last time I checked, I didn't spot any black in a rainbow. When it is black, it is NIGHT. No effin rainbows around .. So take your hypocritical stance,and ask the readers not to comment with racist comments. Won't do any good. Until the ANC accepts they have turned into a racist bunch of retards, and ACT to change that, things won't change. Julius Malema for president. He will make Idi Amin look like a saint

      claudia.meads - 2012-11-24 14:24

      Zeepolar.., You say that people (and I have to assume you mean 'white people') generalize about 'black people' - yet people (indeed 'black people') generalize about 'white people'. I would like you to consider the following (kindly read it carefully), Most black people in SA want to rule the country by 'majority rule' - else they would not have voted for the ANC (that is not by any measure the most intelligent choice). This 'majority rule' means that.., Many black people vote for the ANC to oppress whites in the only way they have at their disposal - not because it is the best for SA. Iow out of childish spite. In many instances blacks vote for the ANC because it guarantees them a job and/or a guaranteed salary - while they cannot confidently say that they would get the same job/salary if they had to compete on a level playing field in any other free country in the world. They do this NOT because the ANC can create a globally competitive workforce with a sustainable future. In many other instances blacks vote for the ANC simply because they get a financial hand-out (aka 'welfare'), cheap electricity, etc and not because the ANC can manage a sustainable economy. Now here follows the 'difficult' bit: Blacks want to "rule" SA AS A GROUP (and the privileges accordingly) - and by no other virtue (eg not by intellect, competence, etc) - yet they object when they are judged AS A GROUP..! NOTE - the one goes with the other - GET IT..?

      themba.thwala.775 - 2012-11-24 14:30

      zeepolar, ignore warped minded people like danie and claudia. Their AWB/Boeremag?Witwolve (or whatever they choose to call themselves after a glass or two of coke and klipdrift) has failed and they have infiltrated the only party that seems to make sense. They gather here every second moaning and attacking others under the guise of the DA. I am sure Helen Zille and Lindiwe Mazibuko can kick them them out to that zoo called orania if they were to be brave enough, come out and say half the stupid things they freely write on new24.

      danie.strydom.7 - 2012-11-24 14:40

      @ Themba Dumdwale AWB. Boeremag etc etc. So, when I am critical of the ANC and their political issues that by default makes me a racist? That is so PATHETIC when politically you get challenged, and at the lack of any intellectual rebuff, you just charge the white guy with being racist. Boo Hoo. I feel so insulted :)

      sani.ghana.3 - 2012-11-24 14:48

      I will vote for da even if they win nothing then i know i dont vote for corruption and criminals

      phillip.marchant.52 - 2012-11-24 15:08

      Dear master Danie Strydom, with 7 brain cells - you are a racist, and an exceptionally stupid one, at that. When were you ever "critical of the ANC and their issues", as you so eloquently put it? All you ever do is to attack the person, and in your ignorance, you have the temerity to challenge an intellect which is palpably more astute than yours could ever be. Do not for an instant associate your name, or your minions with that which is the Democratic Alliance - there is no place for you there, and neither will there ever be. You are nothing short of a disgusting disgrace to South Africa, and indeed, all that is mildly cognitive in the realm of human kind. Life - get one, but preferably somewhere else.

      danie.strydom.7 - 2012-11-24 15:10

      Dear Philip Don't worry about my intellect. It has served me well being retired at 40. I like that you now start insulting me, fine. I have a life, and I am living elsewhere. Just go visit your mummy and we c an catch up

      themba.thwala.775 - 2012-11-24 15:27

      Danie, if you live elsewhere, as in orania, why are you poking your racist nose in the affairs of SA? Get a life wherever you are mannetjie and stop wearing us down with your idiocy

      beverly.young3 - 2012-11-25 18:15

      @ Zeepolar. Oh you so reminded me of Mbeki who used to read his speeches, having to point along the sentences as he read. (always with his left finger) I digress. I thought it a marvellous speech. I feel hope.

      jenny.nel.92 - 2012-11-25 18:45

      Zeepolar, your caution is perfectly understandable. I have also read some comments here that have made me roll my eyes to the heavens in despair. We are at a place in our history now where colour does not feature. If we have any hope of a future for our country, we need to place our trust in people with a proven track record. If the ANC, by some miracle, actually started to deliver, I would have no problem at all with their rule. However, the situation as it is now is grim and getting grimmer. I think the racial slurs from both white and colored people on this forum results from anger and frustration at our inability to improve things. How do we stop the corruption? How do we stop them from stealing billions for their own purposes (shout NKANDLA here) while the education system is falling to pieces and people are dying from lack of care in provincial hospitals? We turn on one another instead of focusing our anger at the root of the very serious problems that we all face every day. Of course, there will always be out-and-out racists who spew venom because they are sick individuals who need help. There are such people in every country on the globe. Take no notice of them. You seem like an intelligent young woman. All you need to do is think for yourself, make up your own mind and place your cross where you believe it should be the next time you vote. No political party is perfect, but some really have much more to offer than others. I wish you well.

      antebellum.axiom - 2012-11-25 22:06

      Claudia, You should not bother them with logic, they detest it. I have allready proven (on numerous occasions) that Themba is an anti-white racist even though he tries his best to mask it. He cannot fathom why people want to be governed by those who have their interrests at heart, rather than those who actively try to destroy them economically, culturally, historically and to some degree physically. To him it is a mystery. He not only wants you to accept the injustices, but he wants you to be thankful for them. He sees himself and the ANC as merciful rulers who spared all us "racist whites" from anihalation. Our presence is merely tollerated. So don't rock the boat, just be greatful that our "benevolent" rulers have allowed us to have any say at all.

  • kyle.chetty3 - 2012-11-24 11:59

    Clapping hands

      frederick.kaczynski - 2012-11-24 12:16

      standing ovation.... now come on people... lets give them 4 years. whats the worse that could happen?

  • clivegoss - 2012-11-24 12:00

    GO girl troika ! ! Give these thieves hell and oust them

  • deon.jansevanrensburg.58 - 2012-11-24 12:01

    And what exactly, Mrs Zille, would a better life constitute? A better life for somebody in Brakpan means something totally different than somebody in Tembisa. You speak with meaningless political forked tongue to garner votes. Politicians should be consigned to Boswell Wilkie circus.

      strikeback.strikeback - 2012-11-24 12:10

      Deon. A better life means simply that - better than you had before. If a person in Tembisa can get access to clean water, and that means life is now better, then it is an improvement. If you can afford to buy a better cellphone that gives you access to the social media, that is your improvement, and it makes life better for you. It would be fine to take on politicians and demand that they deliver on their promises, but find something you can show the rest of us and don't generalise. However if you posted the comment to see if your new cellphone can do this social media thing - we forgive you! www.strikeback.co.za

      Earl O Tool - 2012-11-24 12:10

      both of your examples are in the ANC district and not DA districts. so u are stupid. well done dude

      Carlton - 2012-11-24 12:12

      Did u even read what she said freedom is not just the ability to go any toilet u want, u cant be forever fearing criminals fearing that this country will suddenly not work when u wake up the next day.

      NkandlaSpearshaker - 2012-11-24 12:13

      Ag, jere, ou Deon: This was a speech, not an academic dissertation presented to a plenary. Go and read the DA's policies and just do something for yourself for a change rather to expect to be spoon fed and even digested on your behalf! Wake Up, dude!!!

      JanGrimbeek - 2012-11-24 12:21

      Aparrently you only read the heading, if you read most of the article the answers are there in in paragraph to answer your stupid question. "Zille said freedom lost its value when people lived in constant fear of criminals (brakpan), and those who suffered under apartheid remained trapped in poverty(tembisa)." Just say if you have a problem underanding straight fwd speeches.

      deon.jansevanrensburg.58 - 2012-11-24 12:27

      @EarloToole - would it then be more apt if I used Meyerton and Khayalitsha. You imply I am stupid but apparently you have trouble discerning the trees for the forest. And as Rhoda Kadalie so amply demonstrate - politicians should keep to speeches, they suck at academic dissertations...or even political opinion pieces.

      shirley.steenkamp - 2012-11-24 13:02

      I gather then that you are from a family of politicians and will shortley be joining the circus?

  • mondli.dlomo.73 - 2012-11-24 12:05

    mxm

  • stefan.kruger.1297 - 2012-11-24 12:09

    I love this woman, she is pretty much the only thing that still keeps us together... and if you don't believe me... come to the Western cape... Look at its beauty and REALIZE its because she respects us to make it like that...

      nhlanhla.kambule.5 - 2012-11-24 12:20

      which part of the Western cape you referring to I know it is not khayelitsha or gugulethu

      narike.lintvelt.9 - 2012-11-24 12:36

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      thutothegreat - 2012-11-24 12:59

      Yes Stefan, we have visited Lavender Hill, we have visited Phillipi, Atlantis, Nomzamo, Gugs, delft, elsiesrevier, nyanga, langa, khayelitsha, grassy park etc. , it does not sound like you have. But its okay because the whole country knows that the beauty that is Cape Town only exist in white dominated areas. I expect to get a lot of dislikes for this comment, its okay.

      silvia.vaneck2 - 2012-11-24 12:59

      Nhlanhla, The DA have done a lot for the areas that you mentioned. Unfortunately they are dependant on tax payers money which comes to them via the ANC. Unfortunately the ANC are so intent on wasting the taxpayers money that not enough money is available to develop areas...there are plenty of informal settlements in ANC run areas that are being neglected by the ANC!! Secondly the WC has had a great influx of people from ANC strongholds. Why do you think that is?? In my books there is only 1 of two reasons. a) life is better in the WC or b) the ANC are sending in people so they can reclaim the WC!! 2014 will tell us whether they were successful. BTW did you know one of the top 10 schools in the Western Cape is actually in Kayelitsha??

  • Montagnes.Bleues - 2012-11-24 12:10

    Without any doubt this DA will very soon be the majority party in politics and set about getting SA back on good track again. Very accountable and inclusive and invigorating! The QUALITY of people proud to come forward and who can speak and debate intelligently is astounding!

      mfanafuthi.mhlungu - 2012-11-24 12:56

      Stop smoking weed man da is not even making 23%.

      brian.exmachina - 2012-11-24 13:15

      Mfanafuthi, the DA was making just 12.37% in 2004, they doubled their vote in 7 years. What do you think will happen in the next 7? Watch the 2019 and 2024 elections closely.

      themba.thwala.775 - 2012-11-24 14:34

      mfanafuthi you seem to be ignorant of the fact that the DA wrestled the Western Cape from the incompetent, thieving ANC. It has also been steadily taking wards as more and more people realise how they have been voting for thieving scum like Zuma only to enrich themselves and their children

  • openopportunity - 2012-11-24 12:14

    News24 is Zille's personal blog now? How can something like this be news worthy? Well done News24 for showing once again your clear bias toward the liberal industrial complex (News 24 -> Media 24 -> Naspers -> Anglo American + De Beers and associated interest groups that have been running South Africa for the last 300 years). Zille's view that freedom + emancipation is second to the neo-liberal global project is a typical response from an oppressive capitalist system. Wake-up South Africa.

      riaan.hermann - 2012-11-24 12:48

      Huh can not believe you just said that - ANC can not form a blog becuase it is covered with Crime and corruption.How do you start a blog when in default. Well done News 24 at least you can BLOG on some positive outcomes.

      NkandlaSpearshaker - 2012-11-24 12:50

      I see my previous response to your post has been deleted. It must have struck a sensitive nerve. In essence I said that your myopic views do not contribute anything to the national discourse about the useless ANC. Also, I said, that you have borrowed your non de plume from the DA which advocates and open and equal society with open opportunities for all. So, your non de plume is not original in its conception much like the ANC which can copy and paste nice sounding policy statements without a blink and then either do nothing or just the opposite. Mind blowing, it is. So, try your best to make a positive contribution, won't you please?

      brian.exmachina - 2012-11-24 12:56

      Don't see you complaining when we read about ANC speeches.

      shirley.steenkamp - 2012-11-24 13:00

      Ptt that crak pipe down-its making you speak gibberish!

      JanGrimbeek - 2012-11-24 13:17

      openopportunity, are you sure you are on the right page to make a comment like this, currently there are 7 front page articles on News24 about other political parties, and not negative or positive but unbiased, and only 1 about the DA. Think you are suffering babalaas after your party last night, or maybe you were drinking all by your lonesome and got very very drunk because nobody wants to mention your political affiliations, if any.

  • mbuti.manopole.3 - 2012-11-24 12:15

    @ Mbudalezo :The ANC under zuma,malema,zwelinzima vavi and others poisoned and divided us from blacks-whites-indians To indians-whites-blacks vise versa by using zim policies and forgeting that S.A is multilingual and multicultural society.DA must be given a chance to apply its logik and activate this beautiful and making sure it reach its full potential ...even DA logo tells it all

      narike.lintvelt.9 - 2012-11-24 12:37

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      mbuti.manopole.3 - 2012-11-24 12:50

      I almost forgot that tribalist Sibusiso Dlamini and the un-rebooted face man Blade Nzimande

      themba.thwala.775 - 2012-11-24 14:37

      Amen mbuti. Vote for a party that stands for good governance. I doubt that Zuma and his gang of thieves in the ANC even know what that means or they would not be openly stealing from the taxpayer in broad daylight as they have been doing. We need to give another party a chance, and also vote it out if it fails and give another, etc.

  • dhavandran.palavar - 2012-11-24 12:16

    still the mindless will vote for oppression, lack of service delivery, no text books, corruption, and complain.

  • mmoledis - 2012-11-24 12:19

    What Zille is saying is true in the name of politics and benefit of her party, if DA can win this government we will go back to the apartheid era whereby a white citizen in this country will be superior than his or her black counterpart, if her parliament fails to have blacks in it and also women then this shows clearly that DA IS FAR FROM BEING A PARTY TO CAN UNITE AND WORK FOR THE ENTIRE sa CITIZENS. This party is still having some elements of old National party because most of its members were former National party members so this tells us that the same ideology of National party is still there in practice but not in full scale because they are not in the national government,once they can be in Union building things in this country will change quickly where those ideologies will then be put in use in full totaly and this country then be back to era of 1940s till 1990s. Wxample of that is what is happening in Egypt, where people fought for their rights and certain individuals claim then to be the one to take them from dictatorship to freedom instead take them from bad to worse, so in this country we do not want apartheid to operate in the name of democracy.I am afraid if DA can rule this country......

      glpkruger - 2012-11-24 12:38

      You are blind, racicst, xenophobic and probably not very bright. Yhe current rulers are prime examples of how to divide a country. They openly perpetuate racism, corruption and theft. A word has been coined to describe the government you prefer. Ineptocracy. Look it up, be educated http://www.politicalhotwire.com/general-political-discussion/69645-ineptocracy.html

      willem.d.jager - 2012-11-24 12:48

      mmoledis, Zille fought against Apartheid long before most white people realised how wrong it was. She could not have done that if she had some ulterior white supremacist motive. Her motives are real. What's happening in this country is the New Apartheid: Apartheid between the fat cats in the ANC and the township folk who are still poor. Because the government are too busy lining their own pockets to care. That's no freedom. Again, Helen Zille is fighting that oppression.

      brian.exmachina - 2012-11-24 12:55

      You're delusional son. The world has changed, nobody can or wants to go back to Apartheid. It was an unworkable system, which is why white people voted to have it abandoned. The entire world isn't out to get you. Stop reading ANC pamphlets.

      Strikeback - 2012-11-24 12:58

      Mmoledis, Your example is an excellent one!!! Just like in Egypt, in South Africa people fought for their rights and certain individuals instead took them from bad to worse and to dictatorship. You must cover your body with your other hand when throwing a punch! www.strikeback.co.za

      silvia.vaneck2 - 2012-11-24 13:06

      mmoledis, Can you substantiate your claims with credible proof?? Don't you give blacks more credibility than to think they would allow any government to take them back to apartheid?? It is people like you that will forever hold SA shackled to it's past. BTW..Did you know that the NP was incorporated into the ANC?? Maybe that is why they are so good at oppressing the blacks!!! And as proof of that oppression I bring you high crime rate, no jobs, failed education system, incompetent leadership...oh and the list goes on and on ad infinitum!

      SarelJBotha - 2012-11-24 13:06

      ja boet, clearly the Egyptions also were to stupid to never vote for a fundamentalist party.

      themba.thwala.775 - 2012-11-24 14:38

      We will go back to apartheid? You have been listening to the lies of the ANC and seem to have suspended your brain. Use it boet, and repent from your self-inflicted idiocy

      irene.buthelezi.1 - 2012-11-24 14:50

      @mmoledis ~ Aren't you embarrassed to show you ignorance in public?

      jenny.nel.92 - 2012-11-25 19:03

      Mmoledis it, do you think so little of your countrymen that you really believe they will sit back and allow the reintroduction of apartheid? That ship has sailed, dude, it's time to do what it takes to claim the freedom you deserve. I hate to be the one to tell you this, but under ANC rule you will never be free. Unless you are one of the many old cadres on the gravy train, you will get poorer every day, the systems that keep a society safe and functional, have fallen apart (even you must understand the dire consequences of the failed education system) and this has resulted in crime, unemployment, moral decay ..... You can surely see this for yourself. So you can go to movies and live where you like, but what good is that when there is no clean drinking water and you are too afraid to go out at night? That is what the ANC has done for you, sunshine. Don't you think the DA deserves a chance? They could'nt do much worse now, could they.

  • shirley.steenkamp - 2012-11-24 12:26

    People must stop generalising their views on racists! If you belong to the DA,then you are affiliated with racisim??? What about ALL the anc members who dont think twice to sing "shoot the boer"??? Your right to vote at the end of the day is your key to improve your future. If you are going to vote by colour and not what the party can do for you,then you desrve to be going nowhere slowly. Transformation takes even longer by all the bickering and in fighting. Bottom line-when you vote,vote for a party who has morals and values human life. As for people like Semonatenate-STOP trying to detract from the good that has been done by talking about Gugulethu!!! Most of these townships would be way better off by just leaving the drugs and alcohol alone!!!!! Change starts from within yourself!

  • Karabo Phetoane - 2012-11-24 12:27

    who fought for that freedom?

      Erna - 2012-11-24 12:37

      There were many whites, including Helen Zille, who supported and fought for that freedom. Definitely not the majority of whites, but many of them.

      silvia.vaneck2 - 2012-11-24 13:09

      Karabo, And who helped you get that freedom?? Yes the Europeans and Americans etc with their sanctions against the NP. Had it not been for that pressure the NP could possibly still be governing.

      karel.dutoit.50 - 2012-11-24 16:26

      What freedom? The only freedom I see is for some corrupt anc oficials to freely fill their pocets and forget about the poor.

      beverly.young3 - 2012-11-25 18:21

      And Helen Suzman? The grand old lady of equality. RIP

      barnie.huysamer - 2012-11-26 09:41

      Freedom was attained through sanctions against the NP government, many anti-apartheid individuals/groups/parties within SA and the yes vote of the majority whites in a referendum.

  • Fathima Khan - 2012-11-24 12:28

    too many racists in south africa, white people are living in d past!! always complaining! wen whites ruled, the world sanctioned us... need i say more pshhhh

      shirley.steenkamp - 2012-11-24 12:39

      Pot calling the kettle black?

      wesselo1 - 2012-11-24 12:41

      Whites living in the past???? Its the blacks who blame apartheid, that ended 20 years ago, for everything.

      vivian.harris.73 - 2012-11-24 13:52

      And you a rascist too then...against the white people. And who always blames apartheid for the problems we have today? Apartheid is like 2 decades ago...

      attie.stone.3 - 2012-11-24 16:18

      Fathima; You happy with all the crime & corruption taking place, the unaccountability, the lack of serice delivery....[I could give a long list here]....You happy with this? You don't think people should hold the government they vote into power, accountable for that vote? Maybe thats why many people [not just whites] are complaining....

      karel.dutoit.50 - 2012-11-24 16:27

      It is Verwoerds fault. Bwhahahahahah

  • Mzondi Wakwa Maqina - 2012-11-24 12:30

    When will Zille concentrate on DA? This woman is spending her time flocking a dead horse. No need to bash ANC with every opportunity she gets. Its time she tells us what she can do better. we all know ANC is f#€king up and they are destroying their party and the nation. Madam Zille if you want my vote tell me what you gonna do for the nation.

      NkandlaSpearshaker - 2012-11-24 12:41

      Good starting point, Mzondi. Now check the DA's website, attend their meetings and engage with them. That's the way to do it. The focus on the ANC & Zuma now because therein is the doom of SA and all its people. They're not perfect but, believe me, much better than the ANC because they have policies that offer hope for a better future. Just engage the DA, Mzondi.

      shirley.steenkamp - 2012-11-24 12:45

      Whatever it is will be one hell of a lot better than the cr@p we have to put up with now!

      jenny.nel.92 - 2012-11-25 19:17

      Just check their web site. They DA is making good progress. There are still serious problems, and drug lords are holding back a lot of the good work the DA could be doing as tHey have to use precious resources to stop the gang wars and the serious issue of thousands streaming into the WC for the EC so that they can get decent health care and schooling for their children. This is a drain on their resources, but they are up for the challenge. Don't take my word for it. Read up on them.

  • Khetha Hlophe - 2012-11-24 12:32

    Kungasa ngifile ngiyilunga le da

      mfanafuthi.mhlungu - 2012-11-24 12:45

      Akujiki jengoba usho nje kunjalo nakimi.

      sanele.mqadi.9 - 2012-11-24 12:58

      Y ungafi manje ngoba U don't want change. Abantu abamnya akuve beyizilima sometimes nxa.

      themba.thwala.775 - 2012-11-24 16:23

      Sewafa ingqondo kudala Hlophe. Usuyi zombie :)

  • Meister01 - 2012-11-24 12:32

    Freedom means nothing if you cannot even walk to the corner cafe at 7 in the evening, because criminal barbarians rule the street. And government does nothing because they do not want to lose votes.

  • Karabo Phetoane - 2012-11-24 12:33

    I wont be deceived by pretending,opportunistic,two faced DA.What does she know about freedom,freedom means people who were segregated racially,oppressed,arrested wrongfully,abused and discriminated against have been set free by a revolutionary movement called the ANC

      shirley.steenkamp - 2012-11-24 12:43

      Free to be dumbed down by inferior education,free to be robber blind by the very people they voted for. Free to be hungry whilst the cadres live in luxury,drive snazzy cars and eat like kings. Free to listen to empty promises made by your saviours,free to die uneccesarily because of shocking health care??? You have a strange view of freedom!

      glpkruger - 2012-11-24 12:47

      Just another example of your lack of education and konwledge, prefered by your current government. Mrs Zille fought hand and tooth, probably hardeer than most of the so-called "freedom fighters" for a fair and non-racial South Africa. She exposed the real reasons behind the death of Steve Biko, she was Black Sash (look it up if you don't know) and she offered up her home as a safe house for political activists. But believe what you believe. That is what keeps South Africa where it is

      brian.exmachina - 2012-11-24 12:52

      Um no. Freedom means freedom of association, freedom of press, freedom of movement, freedom of / from religion; freedom means many different things to many different people. Freedom is not limited to race. Furthermore, the ANC is not the only organisation who fought for the end of Apartheid by a LONG shot. The Anti-Apartheid Movement, Black Sash, Voelvry Beweging, the Liberal Party, PP, PAC, UDF, IFP; people like Nelson Mandela, FW de Klerk, Helen Zille, Helen Zusman, and everybody who VOTED for the end of Apartheid in the 1992 referendum. Yes that's right, white people voted to end Apartheid in a Referendum. Now tell me again how the ANC saved everybody. Don't buy into populist propaganda. It took white South Africans across the boundaries of class and political power (including MP's, ministers and the President), international sanctions by other "evil" white Western capitalist countries, in addition to the efforts by black South Africans to end Apartheid. The ANC does not get to call dibs.

      siyabonga.mbuthuma - 2012-11-24 12:58

      Karabo, you are right. Zille is saying the gap between rich and poor is very narrow in the Cape but we are seeing farm workers still on strike in her province. Whites will always undermine Blacks mentality. During apartheid only Blacks were beggers and now that ANC has gotten rid of job reservation, Whites feel SA is going backwards. ANC has only been in power for 18 years vs centuries of White domination

      silvia.vaneck2 - 2012-11-24 13:13

      Karabo, No they weren't. It was the sanctions imposed on the NP that brought SA to it's knees!!

      vivian.harris.73 - 2012-11-24 13:21

      So you would rather be deceived by the ANC who are stealing and wasting billions while the people who voted for them live in poverty. And the ANC wasn't the only movement to free the people from apartheid.....

  • obadia.segwape - 2012-11-24 12:36

    SAME OLD STORY BY OUR BELOVED POLITICIANS AGH

  • narike.lintvelt.9 - 2012-11-24 12:37

    I've started a petition supporting SA's opposition parties' motion of no confidence in Pres Zuma. Please take the time to sign and share this. Thank you. http://www.thepetitionsite.com/372/889/450/sa-taxpayers-support-opposition-parties-motion-of-no-confidence-in-president-zuma/

  • siphiwo.maurice - 2012-11-24 12:41

    When opposition, speaks in this manner, this brings hope that, one day, we can move forward as a united nation, where colour is not the issue. Where we all build this country from within ourselves, putting all our people first.

  • timothy.mbele.3 - 2012-11-24 12:54

    I have voted for the ANC since I started voting. I never evaluated what they brought in the table to do that. It just felt right. I think that time is over now. They were supposed to have started taking my vote seriously. I now realise that some of the opportunities that I was supposed to have myself are taken by the same people that I vote for. So we vote for them so that they can have an upper hand in the opportunities that they promised to create for us. Think about it, if your company bids for a tender with another company where Cyril or Tokyo have ownership or just shares, are you going to win? Everyone who is in the ANC have relatives and friends that benefits from government tenders. Suddenly they family and friends became business men.

      themba.thwala.775 - 2012-11-24 14:55

      Good decision my brother. We need to vote to save SA from going the route of all failed African states, which is the route we have been forced to travel under the thieves calling themselves the ANC. Hopefully kickiung them out of power will get them to start treating us with the respect we deserve. For now they seem to think we owe them a good life for sitting in robben island and in exile, forgetting that we also faced bullets, smelled teargas, got sjambokked, detained, etc. fighting for the same freedom that only the leadership seems to be enjoying at the expense of the voter and of the entire country

      narike.lintvelt.9 - 2012-11-24 16:58

      I've started a petition supporting SA's opposition parties' motion of no confidence in Pres Zuma. Please take the time to sign and share this. Thank you. http://www.thepetitionsite.com/372/889/450/sa-taxpayers-support-opposition-parties-motion-of-no-confidence-in-president-zuma/

      maylani.bezuidenhout - 2012-11-24 22:01

      Yeo and that is corruption and nepotism. How can they be politicians and business people at the same time? Who's interests are they really serving? Tim123 do you think its by accident that the education dept has failed so miserably in improving skills and training? Its by design - they want to keep everyone uneducated and voting ANC because of devotion. Otherwise people start asking interesting questions like you have...

  • Gary.desousa7 - 2012-11-24 12:56

    A speech from the heart and showing the heart of the DA. Yes its a massive job to reverse the injustices of guguletu and other townships that was inherited not only from the anc but also from the nat gov. Find new ground,re settle and then raze the old stuff to the ground, build new rdp and mixed use suburbs(not townships) get sexwale involved fully,the WC will keep you in power for ever and good luck with ither provinces.

      sonja.brandt1 - 2012-11-24 13:58

      Excuse me, but as I understand guguletu existed long before the ANC came into power. U make it sound as if the ANC had the biggest hand in it. That is completely and utterly incorrect.

      maylani.bezuidenhout - 2012-11-24 22:04

      How many people from EC are streaming into cape town each month? 30 000? Even if Zille put every cent into these areas she would not be able to help everyone.

  • isaac.hlalele.3 - 2012-11-24 13:02

    Zille was taught how to oppress blacks not freedom n democracy.

      brian.exmachina - 2012-11-24 13:11

      Spoken like a true ignoramus. Why don't you go read up on Helen Zille's history a bit.

      timothy.mbele.3 - 2012-11-24 14:01

      @Isaac- Time for ignorance is over. ANC must put a better deal in the table. We voted for a corrupt guy in 2009 who they are still shielding. If they bring him back I am not voting for him. The government must create a good business environment for its people and stay away from that business. The ANC create opportunities and compete with the public on these opportunities. When are you going to be famous enough to benefit as well. Everyone in their families is business man.

      maylani.bezuidenhout - 2012-11-24 22:06

      Isaac that's a barefaced lie! Shame on you! If this woman hadn't done her job you'd still be thinking Biko died from a hunger strike!

      jenny.nel.92 - 2012-11-25 19:25

      Isaac, don't say silly things like this. Do research. Get facts. Make sure you know,what you are talking about otherwise you just invite ridicule. Your hatred of white people is your worst enemy. It will keep you tied to the past, with no hope and no prospects because your ANC will have stolen even that from you.

  • SarelJBotha - 2012-11-24 13:04

    Real freedom means firstly that any human being is governed by someone he had a role in electing, that is from his own nation. Secondly freedom should be measured in how few laws, rules, regulation and taxes is placed onto that person, the less, the more freedom thus. Lastly, freedom should be measured on a much longer term, ie, the system should be such that it is sustainable and that the money of the human being and state will never run out. Sadly in any democracy, especially in unity states, not one of these are possible and most people are best slaves who have no clue to how they are robbed and cheated on a daily basis.

  • johannes.mosimanegape - 2012-11-24 13:10

    Closing the gap between rich

  • Mbuso Siera - 2012-11-24 13:13

    this woman has nothing new to say......e.g textbooks issue.....all we hear 4rm the DA leaders is criticizing the ANC....the DA has no miracle to fight youth unemployment in a year..even developed countries with the best education system r struggling with youth unemployment....BLACK kids should choose the right subjects in school work hard nd enroll in courses that lead to profession this country needs the most...change takes time the more years the ANC stays in power....enough time to bring the change to many black south africans......it took the Whites more than 100 years to oppress blacks and not give them equal opportunities.......

      brian.exmachina - 2012-11-24 13:19

      The ANC is terrible at governing. If you keep voting for them, then yes, it will take 100's of years to achieve anything. Germany was bombed to dust in the 2nd world war and 20 years later were back to being one of Western Europe's leading economies. Ireland, New Zealand and many Asian nations are other examples of countries that weren't that great off but built great economies in less than 20 years. How could you expect the ANC to achieve anything at the rate that they're scaring away investment, destroying the economy and stealing money?

      vivian.harris.73 - 2012-11-24 13:32

      And what miracle does the ANC have for the youth? The only real change over the last 18yrs was their bank accounts, expensive cars, posh homes and private schooling while the poor masses that voted for them still struggle. Japan had 2 Nuclear bombs destroy their country and it didn't take them 100 yrs to rebuild. ANC took over a working country and still can't provide proper services to the people after 18 yrs. But they living lavishly for the last 18yrs.

  • Mbuso Siera - 2012-11-24 13:20

    South African democracy is still a baby....we must not expect our leaders to perform miracles....but working together we can achieve more....since the ANC came into power many opportunities/programs were established to empower South African youth....to fight unemployment the ANC is doing what it can.....but we as black kids should take the advantage and study....

      karel.dutoit.50 - 2012-11-24 16:32

      I've never in my live seen an eighteen year old baby Shame when will this baby ever grow up?

      jenny.nel.92 - 2012-11-25 19:32

      These certainly are not my leaders. They treat you, and millions like you, like fools. They steal and lie, their greed is profound and their disrespect for South Africans could not be more blatant. If the DA speaks often of the textbook saga, inkandla and the e-toll debacle, it's because these issues are very serious. They must not be ignored. After 18 years, we don't have clean water - just check for on google how many sewerage plants in South Africa are working properly. You will be shocked. We have no rail system (we had one 18 years ago), our precious environment is being sold off to foreigners, government departments are putrid with nepotism and incompetence. Stop making excuses. I am sure it must be bitterly disappointing to realize that people who were once held in high esteem, have turned out to be nothing more than common criminals and the ideals that are once held with pride, have been trampled underfoot in the cadres' stampede to fill their pockets. Move on. We deserve a lot more than this.

  • isaac.hlalele.3 - 2012-11-24 13:23

    Zille you supported n benefit from apartheid even in black's evolution u're still in...

      john.thabethe.7 - 2012-11-24 13:54

      Isaac, Helen was anti-apartheid activist . Had it not been for her you wouldn't even know about the death of Steve Biko.

  • megalos.savvas - 2012-11-24 13:32

    Born and living in south africa as a white person I was to young to understand apartheid only what I hear today now I see oppresion against south african whites, call it reverse racism or whateva , call it fair or call it what you will . 2 wrongs don't make a right. I have friends of all races , and sometimes we joke at the state of our country and sometimes we are shellshocked .but we all agree that Zille has got very good points and. That she can make a difference no matter she's white , afrikaanse or a woman . And I think most whites understand now what it feels like to be on the other side . I don't think any white if ever elected a leader of this country will ever lead this great country as a apartheid country again . Let's give her a chance if she fails we can vote again in the next election or end up killing eachother anyway

      attie.stone.3 - 2012-11-24 16:20

      Call it apartheid2 megalos; cause that's what it is period....[Two wrongs don't make a right, ever.

  • Mbuso Siera - 2012-11-24 13:35

    Yes BrianExmachina u right.....South Africa was not bombed into dust....but it deprived the majority ( Black ) of its country many opportunities...nd focused on the minority....nd that created a huge gap....that came with many complications that the ANC is fixing moving forward....

      kimsaiyanprincess.murison - 2012-11-24 13:47

      - It's been 18years and counting and people are worse off except the black diamonds.

      brian.exmachina - 2012-11-24 13:52

      Let me just ask you this: are you really happy with their performance? Can we agree that spending R250m on Nkdanla while people are struggling to survive is a bad move? Can we agree that the collapse of the education system is a bad thing? Can we agree that public health care is in a terrible state? Do you agree that murder is bad? You are voting for a President who was accused of rape and corruption; who had children out of wedlock; who took a shower to prevent AIDS; who is basically uneducated; who compared himself to Jesus. You are voting for a party who appointed a head of Crime Intelligence who was accused of murder, two corrupt Police Commissioners, and has a spokesman who shows up drunk on the job. A party responsible for Travelgate, Nkandlagate, the Joburg billing crisis, the education crisis, the health crisis, the Arms Deal, the municipal bankruptcy crisis, the Secrecy Bill, the e-toll controversy, the Marikana Massacre and throws R100m birthday parties. Do you really, really think that things are improving or that a party less corrupt couldn't do a better job? The ANC is, in my opinion, the worst political party in the country, possibly the world. I'm not sure what they could do to have you vote for someone else. Because you clearly see nothing as immoral and bad performance is not a phrase you seem to recognise.

      bongane.zwane.948 - 2012-11-24 14:10

      Brain oh pls man... nkandla was yesterdays news boet! how about giving back some farm owned land to farm workers and some natural resource earnings e.g profit share to mine workers and develop some around structures and enviroments in and around mine companys for a change simple.

      themba.thwala.775 - 2012-11-24 14:59

      Zwane many so called ANC war veterans were given farms and loans to farm. They bought themselves Range Rovers and neglected the farms. Leave farming to real farmers boet. If you want to starve, go and live in zimbabwe were peasants own land from which farmers were evicted, but now the land is not producing any food because peasants hav realised that they cannot farm and are braving crocodiles swimming across the Limpopo to crowd SA

      attie.stone.3 - 2012-11-24 16:26

      The country 'looks' more "bombed into dust" now than it was twenty years ago.....looking at the general state of affairs in almost every sphere of government run departments.

      karel.dutoit.50 - 2012-11-24 16:35

      And what did you physically do to help yourself? Opportunities comes to those who work for them. not demand or force or make laws Pure hard honest work.

      glpkruger - 2012-11-24 18:06

      The ANC isn't fixing anything! They are widening the gap, spreading racism and ignorance

  • JohnnoBfree - 2012-11-24 13:42

    Seems that everybody has forgotten that the DA fought against Apartheid just as fiercely as the ANC. Remember Helen Suzman??? DA does not want to return to the old system but to progress to a free and just society for all South Africans. No South African black or white can say the ANC is doing a great job, if you can you are obviously in cohoots and on the gravy train or just stupid and naive.

      abner.malema - 2012-11-24 14:20

      Helen suzman never fought apartheid she was an MP. When their view point are not taken they used all sort of argument to advance them like apartheid. Ruth First and others fought against apartheid

      themba.thwala.775 - 2012-11-24 15:02

      abner if she did not fight apartheid, why was she the leader of the opposition (the Progressive Federal Party)? What was she opposing? Why was she so highly regarded by Mandela? Why did Mandela allow her to visit him in Pollsmoor? Please check whether your bum or your brain is chanelling your thinking, whether you are sitting on your brain

  • Karabo Phetoane - 2012-11-24 14:01

    @JohnnoBfree just name one person from your DA who was executed because he/she fought against apartheid.

  • Karabo Phetoane - 2012-11-24 14:04

    @john.thabethe.7 she was working for the apartheid government and that was her duty to write about the Biko story.

  • Mbuso Siera - 2012-11-24 14:05

    Brian u cant expect an intern to perform like an experience professional.....the mighty be loopholes in the ANC leadership as government...they have been identified nd strategies set in place....nd r being fixed....the R 250 M media exaggerated story....is under investigation....

      karel.dutoit.50 - 2012-11-24 16:37

      Same old excuse for incompetence. Hard work can take any intern to the top.

      jenny.nel.92 - 2012-11-25 19:38

      Loopholes. Ha! That's an understatement if ever there was one. Even if only R1million of taxpayers' money was spent on inkandla, it would be way too much. He has no right to help himself to state funds. But if its okay for you to watch your country rot, knock yourself out. It is, after all, your country now.

  • mzondistanley - 2012-11-24 14:06

    Lectures on Democracy from Zille is like Waerewauti talking about Democracy while Blacks were not allowed to vote!!

  • mkgatla3 - 2012-11-24 14:08

    Its Anc or Nothing! U can't trust opposition parties they always think that they are smarter than others....Da can't be trusted because its afrikaaners party,and they don't believe that a black person can lead them and they still have apartheid....

      brian.exmachina - 2012-11-24 14:14

      LOL! Two of the most important leaders in the DA are Lindiwe Mazibuko and Mmusi Maimane. Some Afrikaners think the DA is too liberal, most of the white leaders in the DA are English speaking. Please give evidence for your ridiculous assertion that the DA "still have apartheid".

      Jaco JP Venter - 2012-11-24 14:54

      @Mk3 the Da is not a Afrikaans party! Freedom front Plus is the afrikaans party.The DA was started by the English people just get your facts strait if you want to comment on N24 pls

  • Mbuso Siera - 2012-11-24 14:09

    End of story.....the DA cannot bring change to the majority of this country....let the ANC continue fixing what it fought for.....The DA is only Failing our fellow black brothers in the western cape...

      brian.exmachina - 2012-11-24 14:17

      The ANC is worse and more corrupt now than it ever was. They are getting worse, not better. The ANC is failing the ENTIRE country. It is an evil, corrupt, immoral organisation who steals, murders, and plunders. Most of the Western Capes problems is due directly to interference from COSATU and the ANCYL as political maneuvering on behalf of their criminal buddies in the ANC. They said they want to make the Western Cape ungovernable and that's what they're doing. Farm wages are negotiated nationally, why is it only a problem in the WC. Stop being happy with so little and vote for a government that will perform.

      mncedisipride.blakfesi - 2012-11-24 15:16

      Point of correction on you Brian,the fact that people are not happy with some of the ANC leaders does not mean those people have forgotten all about their past and present challenges.ANC brought change in this country and is busy doing so.The people have not forgotten about the National Party(changed to DA),Don Platto's comments on a national television about the toilets in Khayelitsha,the bucket system that is currently in use in the areas of Khayelitsha and the DA advert scandals before the elections.DA can never better the people's lives anywhere in the world as it does't have the paople's interest at heart.

      mncedisipride.blakfesi - 2012-11-24 15:16

      Point of correction on you Brian,the fact that people are not happy with some of the ANC leaders does not mean those people have forgotten all about their past and present challenges.ANC brought change in this country and is busy doing so.The people have not forgotten about the National Party(changed to DA),Don Platto's comments on a national television about the toilets in Khayelitsha,the bucket system that is currently in use in the areas of Khayelitsha and the DA advert scandals before the elections.DA can never better the people's lives anywhere in the world as it does't have the people's interests at heart.

      karel.dutoit.50 - 2012-11-24 16:38

      Only honest hard work can change this country for the better. No threats or demands. Start at the top and get people in there to set the example.

      brian.exmachina - 2012-11-24 22:27

      "National Party(changed to DA)" Um, no. The National Party changed to the New National Party and then promptly became part of the ANC. The DA on the other hand was formerly the DP and before that the Progressive Party who actively fought apartheid. Can you at least TRY to get your facts straight? You're spreading typical ANC misinformation. Think for yourself and do some research. Tell me, have the ANC covered their own toilets yet? Because if you care to be fair you'll remember that they had done the exact same thing. You'll also remember the DA covered up those toilets numerous times only for the ANCYL to tear them down again in typical destructive and criminal ANC fashion.

  • abner.malema - 2012-11-24 14:12

    The apartheid government used the police and Inkatha to keep them in power and said the black parties are terrorist whilst they kill and give blacks lethal diseases now they use DA and media to cause black on blacks hatred. They inflarate black leaders with advicers to make them as if they are corrupt. One by one any black leader will be deemed corrupt, they lure them into corruption and blow the whistle

      bongane.zwane.948 - 2012-11-24 14:24

      Hola boss!... you are right on.

      themba.thwala.775 - 2012-11-24 15:06

      "They inflarate black leaders with advicers to make them as if they are corrupt." Please explain what you mean and give examples. I know, you are going to throw insults like all ANC sheep who believe their own lies and expect everyone else to. I will be patiently waiting for your answer

      bongane.zwane.948 - 2012-11-24 15:18

      en noi?.

      byron.scott.754 - 2012-11-24 20:54

      Ha ha ha. The name malema says it all. Jabber jabber jabber!

  • Mbuso Siera - 2012-11-24 14:29

    The DA is only causing division amongst fellow blacks....lets wake up Africans nd not let the white man ideology divide us....this type of skin color cannot be trusted so is any 1 who befriends them...

      Billy - 2012-11-24 14:40

      its good that your face is on that picture. :)

      themba.thwala.775 - 2012-11-24 15:03

      How is it causing division to fellow blacks? Blacks have always been divided along ideological lines. That is why we have the PAC, AZAPO, the ANC, SOPA, UDM, the African Nationals (who are) Corrupt (ANC for short).

      karel.dutoit.50 - 2012-11-24 16:39

      No need to divide blacks they can see for themselves how hard work pays.

      douglas.reid.921 - 2012-11-25 19:26

      If whites can't be trusted then tell me why 99% of the prison population is non white? Same in america and there the non whites are in the minority.

  • abdul.cassiem.9 - 2012-11-24 14:38

    Attention attention!!!!! Does anyone on this subject knows whts it was like to growup in t apartheid era anyone And by t way Zille fought against apartheid you silly mamparas

      lindani.zulu.714 - 2012-11-24 16:50

      Shut up you blooody terrorst

      glpkruger - 2012-11-24 18:10

      @lindani: People like you are taking SA to the mud where it is trampled upon by the ANC Pigs

  • Mbuso Siera - 2012-11-24 15:32

    DA or no DA the ANC will continue to rule.....whether zille fought for apartheid or not....

      themba.thwala.775 - 2012-11-24 16:25

      That's what idiots like you said before the DA took the Western Cape

      karel.dutoit.50 - 2012-11-24 16:39

      Get competent leaders then please.

  • Karabo Phetoane - 2012-11-24 15:50

    @abdul.cassiem.9 don't talk hot air she was one of them and she still is.

  • Karabo Phetoane - 2012-11-24 15:54

    @themba.thwala we have been divided but we have always been fighting a common enemy which is white supremacy and the dare devil apartheid.Zille was always voting,using the Europeans only public toilets,having access to the beach,having acess

      themba.thwala.775 - 2012-11-24 16:10

      Karabo, I take it that you agree that we have always been divided and that Mbuso is probably high on tik. Now please tell me how can someone risk her life as Zille did working for the anti-apartheid Black Sash and exposing how apartheid deathsquads killed Steve Biko when at the same time she was voting. If she was voting, it was for the Progressive Federal Party which was the opposition. How do you even know which toilet she was using? And what is the relevance of your statement if she was using white toilets given that Marthinus Schalkwyk, Pat Davies, Maria Ramos, Andries Nel and many other whites who joined the ANC after 1994 were most probably also using white toilets and voting too? Why do you not find somethng wrong with the fact that they were voting too and using white toilets?

  • Karabo Phetoane - 2012-11-24 16:00

    @themba.thwala we have always been divided but fighting the common enemy which is the dare devil apartheid and white supremacy.Zille have always been voting,having access to the Europeans only public toilets,having access to our beaches,buying land cheaply,having access to parliament and all the privileges white people had in the apartheid government and you must not come with that crab story,if she fought against the apartheid government she fought for you not us the black majority.

  • Karabo Phetoane - 2012-11-24 16:37

    @Themba most of the DA federal council if not all them are from the Conservative Party and National Party and they were the drivers of apartheid and the DA federal council is highest controlling division of the DA.How can apartheid drivers quickly transform into pro-democratic gurus?Zille was part of apartheid government,if she wasn't,after she exposed the story of Biko she could have been assassinated because people who exposed the apartheid government were murdered or disappeared.I wont be deceived into pushing the agenda of white supreme by the DA and be used as a front like Lindiwe Mazibuko,Mmusi Maimane and the others.

      john.thabethe.7 - 2012-11-24 19:11

      What about the ANC members in KZN who were formerly members of the IF P in place like NoNgoma and ULundi ? Some of them killed Anyone who was not IFP but today they are full members of ANC. Should people accuse the ANC because of them?

      brian.exmachina - 2012-11-24 22:32

      Liar, liar, pants on fire. The precursor to the DA was the DP and the precursor to that the Progressive Party. All were considered extremely liberal and were intensely disliked by the NP for their liberal, pro-black and anti-apartheid stances. You, sir, are a brainwashed, racist, ANC zombie.

  • Karabo Phetoane - 2012-11-24 20:18

    @John.thabethe who have those guys racially oppressed because of the colour of their skin? Those guys were paid by those whites you protecting to kill fellow brothers and sisters and they are using you again to fight a black government,I don't know if you getting paid as well.

      themba.thwala.775 - 2012-11-24 21:28

      You also have crocodile skin Blade Nzimande, a former inkathat idiot who is now the Minister of Education that was not elected by anyone. Your so called "black government" is corrupt. Wise people have reason to be concerned. If you want to live in a sewer, go to Zimbabwe. Some of us are going to stop the anc from turning SA into another zimbabwe. Oh, and nobody pays us

  • kholisile.gumada - 2012-11-25 06:47

    Hellen d freedom fighter! Was Hellen detaind 4 being against apartheid? Did she had a taste of Robben Island? I guess nt (bt stand 2 b corrected),I think She must first unify Capetonians,I mean Colourd,Africans and whites b4 talking freedom wich in my view seems 2 b lacking in d Cape unda her rule! Theres a lot going on in d Werstern Cape and its nt ryt... So, d leaders there, must focus on solving such crisis! And stop preaching freedom dis,freedom dat!

  • isaac.hlalele.3 - 2012-11-25 18:33

    Freedom without economic power is farce n ours is EVOLUTION.

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