Zille refugee apology 'not heartfelt'

2012-04-24 08:14

Cape Town - The ANC says it believes DA leader Helen Zille's apology over her controversial refugee comment was not heartfelt, the Cape Times reported on Tuesday.

Zille appeared on SABC TV on Sunday night and apologised for referring to Eastern Cape pupils who flocked to the Western Cape for better education as "refugees". The comment was made on social networking site Twitter last month, in reference to a protest in Grabouw over overcrowding at a local school.

"Very sorry because it was never meant in that context at all, and it was never said in that way at all," Zille explained.

"What I was trying to show up was what [Basic] Education Minister Angie Motshekga calls a 'horror story' of education in much of the Eastern Cape."

African National Congress provincial secretary Songezo Mjongile told the newspaper the party was not convinced her apology was heartfelt.

"She's had more than one opportunity to apologise, but she refused after we told her that it was insulting to call black people refugees.

"Her apology is not genuine, it's a political stunt," he said.

Singer Simphiwe Dana, who clashed with Zille over another tweet, told the Cape Times she believed Zille was pressured into the apology. "It's not from the heart."

  • Sonja - 2012-04-24 08:18

    She shouldnt appologise for saying it like it is. Proud of you Helen!

      Sonja - 2012-04-24 08:21

      anyhow, the cANCer should concentrate on why she said it and not what she said. cANCer must focus on their problem and not go on and on and on and on about nothing. pathetic morons!

      Andres - 2012-04-24 08:26

      She actually needn't really apologise, but she did, few politicians do, so well done. She caused offense to some, not because the term "education refugee" is a bad term. The term, being offensive, is subjective. If the ANC wishes to cast stones, then where's Manyi's apology for saying there are too many Coloureds in the Western Cape? Where's Malema's apology for calling Indians "C**lies" or Whites "Criminals?" The ANC are being hypocrites again: Experts at taking offense, givers of none!

      carpejugulim - 2012-04-24 08:27

      oh PUHLEEZE ... anything Helen Zille says or does will never be good enough for the ANC

      Andrew - 2012-04-24 08:31

      Zille is becoming as arrogant as the rest of SA's politicians. DA, ANC... all the same as far as I'm concerned...a compromised bunch of sell-outs!!

      Andrew - 2012-04-24 08:35

      There is no such thing as a sincere apology from a politician!!

      Koos - 2012-04-24 08:36

      The truth always seems strange in politics.

      TSR01 - 2012-04-24 08:47

      "we told her that it was insulting to call black people refugees." -this article. So a black person cannot be a refugee? I thought a refugee was a person escaping a crisis or degrading condition to a place of safety / refuge, and was NOT determined by race???? Such blithering idiots.

      Glyn - 2012-04-24 09:08

      Only those who want to be insulted are insulted! You can quote me. Vote DA!

      Glyn - 2012-04-24 09:11

      @Andrew .. are you one of those petulant types that would not vote for Tony Leon because of his voice? You would rather the anc rule than to vote for somebody whose voice you did not like??? You gutless twerp!

      bluzulu - 2012-04-24 09:15

      She's a bigger personality than first thought, Good on her for the Apology. Wonder if she has a partner?

      Andres - 2012-04-24 09:16

      @BluZulu: She's married to a professor from UCT :-)

      Ray - 2012-04-24 09:17

      The ANC is just trying to divert attention from the real problem-the collapse of state education[as well as all the other things,such as hospitals,that they "run"].

      Nigel - 2012-04-24 09:21

      @lerato, I agree with you that that comment was not helpful & was a tactical error & that it would have been better to clarify the meaning of the statement earlier, but, to be fair you need to be critical as well of ANC politicians when they say things like "HZ sleeps with he cabinet", or "whites are criminals" or "HZ is the devil" - Tony Enrinriech, or the ANC is only for blacks" there are no apologies from these people for these personal & racist attacks. Besides HZ was not calling all blacks refugees, she said that some school children were being forced to flee their region (i.e. refugees) based on the failure of the ANC to deliver basic education to the EC province, she was not calling you a refugee. Your last statement seems like a threat, which I find the most disappointing, maybe you are emotional, but this kind of thing is unnecessary & is not helpful.

      Koos - 2012-04-24 09:21

      @Lerato: 1: Zille never mentioned race or any color for that matter at any time or in any tweet, it was YOU and your ANC that turned it into a race debate as if white and coloreds weren’t being forced to the Western Cape for better opportunities. Now they call it a “political stunt” ? Guess they know all about “political stunts” and what makes blacks so special anyways that they can deny any other race from being refugees looking for a better future in the Western Cape? 2: Not me or my family ever... EVER... owned a farm or stole it but just because I’m white you and fat boy label me a thief that stole NOTHING from your great (or not so great) black ancestors and we are supposed to say “Yes my black master” when you deny the whites opportunities, take away what we created and worked for and punish us (and sometimes kill) for being white? 3: Did she lie? Everyone is up in arms about the refugee statement but is Zille lying? “Political stunt” but the ANC knows all too well how to pull a “Political misdirection” that distracts from the real issue hey Lerato.

      Smile - 2012-04-24 09:22

      @ Lerato. You and the people she "offended" are just ANC troll, and maybe sad insecure people. Get a life. @ Andrew, dontgive up; evey vote counts.

      Randomhero6661 - 2012-04-24 09:32

      @lerato, wait till the table turns, the people you vote for will put you in a refugee status, this is not your country it belongs to all us africans, you don't have to vote for the DA you have a free choice on who you choose to lead or (destroy) the country, but one thing still evades you is logic, not all white and black people fall in your "category" what happens when real south africans makes your type refugees, praise that day we finally move forward... now get back to your simplistic ways of life...

      Shirley - 2012-04-24 09:52

      I agree! In any case an apology is meaningless to the brainless!

      Koos - 2012-04-24 10:44

      *Pointing @ Dazz* .. and there we have it ladies and gentlemen. Definitive proof that stupid pills containing vitamin ANC is indeed bad for you.

      theO rAcLe - 2012-04-24 11:02

      You cannot call black people anything now days, soon the word BLACK is also going to be racist...WTF are these people on about, Rather go and find work instead of looking for people calling you names..Call me as a white, anything and it's like water off a ducks back...I have what I have through hard work and nothing else.. CATCH A WAKE UP BLACK PEOPLE.

      theO rAcLe - 2012-04-24 11:04

      So what do we call black refugees then, Give me a new name... FFS

      Preshen - 2012-04-25 16:11

      "it's too late I said it's too late to apologize"

      jmlongwe - 2012-04-25 20:43

      Racism is due to a lack of knowledge and wisdom, both in blacks and whites. No one really takes you seriously when you start muttering such words in real life because you will look stupid, so why go behind your computer and think people will think of what you say differently there. PS You still sound stupid idiot

  • wynandjsmit - 2012-04-24 08:18

    It certainly was not needed to apologize, as she said absolutely nothing wrong.!!

      Junebugg - 2012-04-24 08:35

      And this Simphiwe Dana chick, she has nerves of judjing people..She is the one who was sleeping with a pastor who is married 2 months ago and justified it by saying "The wife lives in another province" now she is all modest and holly to judge Zille?? Hypocrite when she was on the news she was asking people not to judge her

      Ray - 2012-04-24 09:20

      Junebugg-Just saw your comments after I posted[above].Spot on!!

      Drienie - 2012-04-24 12:41

      You are 100% right Junebugg. Big ups bro!!!

      Grimett - 2012-04-25 09:53

      @ Junebugg, the pastor was a sexual refugee,the sex just wasn't good enough in the other province. lol

  • christo.stone - 2012-04-24 08:19

    Biggest kids in the world work in politics...

      Andrew - 2012-04-24 08:35

      well said Christo

      nsda29 - 2012-04-24 08:56

      @Christo I think its the ANC thats being the kid here! Helen's statement offended a lot of people. She used a right word to emphasize a very important issues but unfortunately the word has a stigma attached to it. At the end of the day what she said was true. Unlike arrogant ANC she swallowed her pride and recognised that her words have offended Certain South Africans and she apologized. I'm not a Helen fan but I respect he wisdom and humility. ANC on the other hand is just being childish. I think the term opposition to them means something else. They are too blind to see that opposition can be right sometimes and they need to acknowledge that and work together to improve the lives of the SAans. Pity that their followers dont realise that that behaviour is a cancer that doesnt bring healing to our country at all. Thank you Helen, you deserve all the respect. I'm saying this as a NON-DA and a former ANC.

      Christo - 2012-04-24 11:41

      I'm referring to the ANC here, not Helen Zille. I really don't see her comment as racially targeted and I see it as well put...if you flee a certain problem area to another area, you are basically a wasn't meant as an insult or labeling certain people. It was to highlight the problem in the Eastern Cape.

  • mariuskowie - 2012-04-24 08:19

    What do they want Zille to do? Donate her left kidney as an apology?

      spartanx93 - 2012-04-24 08:24

      In the eye of the refugees, what Zille does will never be good enough.

      Sharon - 2012-04-24 08:25

      There is just no pleasing some people! Stuffed if you do, stuffed if you don't! Looking at the 1.5 million children in the EC still waiting for their textbooks, she was totally justified in speaking up about their plight. The ANC certainly does a wonderful job in deflecting attention from their ineptitude!

      mariuskowie - 2012-04-24 08:39

      How could Zille highlight the educational fubar in the Eastern Cape without offending the ANC spin doctors. Whatever words she used would have created a similar backlash. There are educational refugees from all ethnic groups seeking education away from the Eastern Cape. Now how is that racist or offensive? It can only be offensive to the ones responsible for the Education mess-up.

      Glyn - 2012-04-24 09:14

      Only those who want to be insulted are insulted! You can quote me. Vote DA!

      wesley.bischoff - 2012-04-24 10:07

      Keeping the people from gaining a decent education = power to manipulate easily and gain easy votes...

      nsda29 - 2012-04-24 10:12

      @ JAja and Morrone This is MAalema we are talking about, even black people are disgusted with him, even some ANC members because He's arrogant and his apologies are just too fake even a fool can see that. On the other hand Zille apology was authentic! Thats the difference. Zille respects people Malema on the other hand respect no one He insults everyone who says nay whe he says yes. So lets not compare the two!

  • Riaan - 2012-04-24 08:20

    Do you want sauce with that chip on your shoulder? Why should she apologise to people too stupid to grasp what was meant by her comment and who think there is a racial connotation to the word refugee.

      spartanx93 - 2012-04-24 09:32

      ANC spins everything to have a racial connotation. I personally think Zille should never have apologized..... For what? She spoke the truth and now all the animals get rowdy and call foul. All to quick to play the race card.

  • William - 2012-04-24 08:21

    Why is it insulting to call black people refugees? There are literally millions of black refugees around the continent. Lol. That is such a useless, stupid, inane comment I don't actually know what to do with it.

      mariuskowie - 2012-04-24 08:45

      Zille did not call black people refugees! She called the people of all race groups from the Eastern Cape refugees. I live in the Eastern Cape and am highly offended that the ANC implies that there are only Black people from here. Making the word Refugees into something black racist is derogatory to any of the other people living in the Eastern Cape. The ANC did not chase the other ethnic groups into the sea. At least, not yet.

      Glyn - 2012-04-24 09:15

      Only those who want to be insulted are insulted! You can quote me. Vote DA!

      wesley.bischoff - 2012-04-24 10:09

      Glyn, get a better comment, jissis. That is lame, repeated how many times?

      Glyn - 2012-04-24 10:51

      @Wes .... You are right, repeated too many times. But you noticed it! And it is true.

  • Tony Lapson - 2012-04-24 08:21

    Good lord. South Africans are pathetic. Any excuse to get offended. Everyone has some hang-up about something. Bloody sensitive imbeciles will find any reason to create further division.

  • Marion - 2012-04-24 08:22

    Even though I believe it was taken totally out of context, and certainly wasn't racist as the ANC claimed, it offended many people and I think Helen should have apologized long ago for the apology to be considered sincere.

      TSR01 - 2012-04-24 08:51

      "we told her that it was insulting to call black people refugees." -this article. So a black person cannot be a refugee? I thought a refugee was a person escaping a crisis or degrading condition to a place of safety / refuge, and was NOT determined by race?? What is there to apologize for? Nothing. Therefore, they cannot be so head-up-their-arses about the "sincerity" of an "apology" that was never meant to be made.

      Gestoffle - 2012-04-24 08:51

      @Marion - Oh cheese and rice - are you still here? I feel so sorry for your husband waking up to that sour face every morning. Unless you cant get a husband, witches normally stay single......

      Junebugg - 2012-04-24 08:52

      How can Zille be racist when she was one of the people who played a huge role against the Apartheid regime?? I usually declare anyone who thinks of Zille as racist mentally disabled brainwashed idiot...I guess if you are white u are not supposed to have an opinion if you not in the ANC ,, otherwise u are racist as MF...

      Marion - 2012-04-24 09:15

      @all above - maybe you would like to read my comment again so that you can actually understand what I said.

      Glyn - 2012-04-24 09:15

      Only those who want to be insulted are insulted! You can quote me. Vote DA!

      bluzulu - 2012-04-24 09:18

      Good morning .....MY QUEEN, As usual on the money comment,

      siyadyosiba - 2012-04-24 09:22

      @Marion, just ignore selective listeners.

      Jaja - 2012-04-24 09:24

      @gestoffle. Why do you feel the need to insult marion, simply because she does not agree with you! Your comment is sexist and its because of that kind of thinking that some feel that women are inferior to them and hence the huge amount of violence we have against women in this country. Its because of your disrespect!

      bluzulu - 2012-04-24 09:40

      Queen Marion, Forgive this pest Gestapo as he is Mentally challenged. Take pity on this soul,

      Gestoffle - 2012-04-24 10:14

      @ Jaja - the things is, you dont know what a wet blanket she is; dig around the forums a bit, you understand what i mean. She is racist with a hidden agenda, here she is a liberal, but really the opposite......

      Gestoffle - 2012-04-24 10:24

      Bluzulu aka coconut - mentally challenged, hows that? I own you, you have never got an answer for any of my comments, because you are too retarded too answer. You cant think quick enough. Your juvenile comments they you did put up have all been deleted by yourself, because you know you have been made a fool of. Why dont you explain what the difference is between alluding and eluding, or perhaps the difference between advise and advice, why dont you tell the people what lies you have been telling here. Like how you have travelled the world and that you have so much money, but still have to work. You are fraud and what is worse you havent never denied not one lie. You are thief, stealing portnets (richards bay) time when you should be working. But hang in there, I will expose you very soon, I am closer than you think....

      Marion - 2012-04-24 10:32

      @Gestoffle - please quote ONE INCIDENT on the forums where I am racist. Just one with the link. Please. I beg you on bended knee.

      Glyn - 2012-04-24 10:52

      @ Marion .. I usually agree with you but not on this one. The anc want to be insulted! No apology was warranted.

      bluzulu - 2012-04-24 10:53


      Gestoffle - 2012-04-24 11:07

      "here she is a liberal, but really the opposite......" We will just ask her domestic........

      Gestoffle - 2012-04-24 11:11

      @coconut/bluzulu - short of an answer? looks like you have a stuttering problem? why would you write "he" consecutively like that....he what ?common spit it out!

      Liz - 2012-04-24 14:19

      @Gestoffle - your comments about Marion are uncalled for and telling us a lot more about your sick and slanted view of life than putting Marion down. It seems to me you have nothing really to say other than unleash personal attacks on other people.

      bluzulu - 2012-04-24 14:47

      heehehehehheee....What bout me Liz??....heheehehehee

      Gestoffle - 2012-04-24 16:03

      @liz - Bang on airhead - I have to fight these trolls one by one as they come...and its personal. But I only have to look at the thumbsdown to get consensus. If you new here you would not understand.....if you been here a while, do you still not get it???? Sit back and watch the slander it's fun. They getting as much as they give. If you easily offended, you better run now. Incidentally, there only about 6 of them. Bluzulu is first on my list, because he lies and is a MAKE OUT. Marion is actually okay, I dont mind her too much, she is just miserable. So i wont be too nasty to her anymore. Sorry Marion, you beautiful and i wish i was your husband! However it looks like i have been chiselled out by the snake bluzulu........

      Gestoffle - 2012-04-24 16:18

      Oh yes bluzulu, I will keep on campaigning as to what a blatant liar you are. Remember telling me your comments are purposely trying to wind white people up? - Yes @LIZ did you see that one? Didnt think so.

      Liz - 2012-04-24 19:35

      @Gestoffle - oh well blaze away .. thanks for the explanation about your personal mission to neutralise trolls real and imaginary. least I know I can skip your comments and not miss out on anything of substance.

  • zybt99 - 2012-04-24 08:22

    I wonder what gave everybody that idea. Hellen is very sincere when it comes to the rights of the poor. Just look at the number of potholes she has fixed...

      Andres - 2012-04-24 08:48

      And the new R650million Khayelitsha hospital. The new temporary Grabouw school, even though the Nat'l Dept. of Public Works has been delaying the handover of land for the permanent school for 3 years, the Rapid Bus Transit system Phase 2 to Cape Flats, the Violence Prevention through Urban Upgrading program, also in Khayelitsha... and list goes on... they are trying.

  • Greg - 2012-04-24 08:23

    Really no need to apologize Helen, anybody with half a brain understood exactly what you meant!!

      TSR01 - 2012-04-24 08:51

      And the rest with half a brain completed twisted what she said... so sad really.

      Glyn - 2012-04-24 09:16

      Only those who want to be insulted are insulted! You can quote me. Vote DA!

      bluzulu - 2012-04-24 09:19

      This is AFRICA...Helen needs to be precise and concise to ensure there can be ONLY ONE MEANING to comments.

      spartanx93 - 2012-04-24 09:37

      @Bluzulu - so you are admitting that african country men are stupid? That Zille has to spell out the meaning of everything she says? We understand Homo habilis about your cognative disabilities.

  • brionyl.french - 2012-04-24 08:23

    It was a missunderstanding on the part of the uneducated of course they wouldnt get an apology either... Get a life people, get over it!!! She has explained herself how many times now? Grow up

  • Terry - 2012-04-24 08:25

    It is the ANC who should be apologising for the state of education in the Eastern Cape - Zille has nothing to apologise about. People who are forced into moving from one area to another because of a disaster in their home area, are refugees - regardless of whether the disaster is natural or man-made. In this case - the disaster is caused by the ANC's hopeless running of education in the Eastern Cape. That makes the people fleeing that disaster refugees - and has nothing to do with race.

      Glyn - 2012-04-24 09:17

      Only those who want to be insulted are insulted! You can quote me. Vote DA!

  • Jonathan - 2012-04-24 08:27

    Someone play the worlds smallest violin

  • Angela - 2012-04-24 08:27

    Effers and we are supposed to forgive them ALL the bloody time for their mistakes which actually do affect lives. Zille could rent her clothes and wail for forgiveness and it still wouldn't be enough. ANC has no morality anymore- they've lost my vot.

  • damonsb - 2012-04-24 08:28

    what the hell,did she steal millions like the ANC? hahahahahaha

  • Nigel - 2012-04-24 08:30

    haha, the ANC is not happy with the apology because they want to milk the statement even more, such a bunch of pathetic lying hypocrites, we don't care if you accept the apology, what we care about it the shocking education mess in the EC & Limpopo, that you, the ANC, are trying to hide with this smoke screen, its true the ANC is becoming a dictatorship.

  • Jaco - 2012-04-24 08:31

    The ANC should appologise for not "bettering" the lives of the people in the Eastern Cape (old Transkei) after Apartheid! The progress is way to slow there.

  • christian.helberg - 2012-04-24 08:31

    Helen shouldn't have apologized at all, the truth is the truth. What the ANC should apologize for it ruining this country, for running it into the ground.

      Ingi - 2012-04-24 12:04

      Absolutely, when an A.N.C. member apologises for the ghastly crime, corruption and bribery which is plagueing our beloved Country, then I will sit up and listen to their unfair, un-informed, ridiculous, stupid criticism!!! ITM - get a life you half-wits!!! Vote D.A. and let's put a stop to all this un-necessary rubbish and let's get on with running and living in our glorius Country, FGS!!!

      bluzulu - 2012-04-24 12:13

      Is there a God?

  • Anthony - 2012-04-24 08:32

    will the anc appologise for there failure of running this country..... NO

      Shirley - 2012-04-24 10:45

      Tsheko: you dont need to be a magician to be honest,free of corruption,fair and work to the upliftment of ALL in S.A.!!!In 18 years they have stolen,lied,cheated and turned this country into the backsliding capital of :corruption,rape,crime and numerous other horrific elements!

      Rob - 2012-04-24 10:45

      Tsheko...The ANC are amongst the finest magicians in the world....They make money & criminal charges dissapear !

      damonsb - 2012-04-24 11:40

      Tsheko- to me,Mandela made a big mixed race get together party this world has ever seen ,by the grace of God.Its the leaders after Mandela that you may callc "refugees" their the ones that only care about themselves ,and how fast they can make a mess of a good thing.DA,and `im not even a DA supporter,is doing alot in a small frame and that is impact considering ANC and their 18 years.Now!! what is this,Da says this,ANC says that ...Parties calling its other names like sissies...if this continue,Unity is slowly being smothered in our country.Jaslikit man,the news suck on all channels of the sabc

  • Vuyo - 2012-04-24 08:34

    Vuyo - Just posted Report comment It's time for us blacks to stop the culture of always being against things and to start talking abount what we want to do . What are we doing to teach our children . Why must our children be taught by whites when there are so many black teachers . These are the questions we need to ask . Is it about incompetence , because it can't be about apartheid . Al we do is wait for a white person to say something negative about us and we jump like a swarm of BEES to attack him/her .This has become to predictable . This, while other groups are focusing on becoming economically independent . The next thing we fight for is when other people chase us away from their restaurants . Why can't we just learn to be competitive and form our corporates . A mind-shift is necessary here

      Nigel - 2012-04-24 08:53

      yes Umkhwetha, the mind shift you talk about that is needed, I think, is a shift from wealth distribution to wealth creation, which starts with education & skills, which unfortunately are currently not being delivered, but I appreciate you approach, you are right, black people need to become more self-sufficient, more entrepreneurial, & need to take responsibility for their future, rather than waiting for the Government to provide them with jobs, which ends up in a failed state.

      Junebugg - 2012-04-24 09:01

      Well said Vuyo/Umkhwetha...These petty politics are getting old now.

      Marion - 2012-04-24 09:06

      @umkhewetha - I agree that a mindshift is necessary. I disagree about your comment about white teachers though. There are exactly four white teachers in the school my son attends. Just yesterday he was complaining about how totally ineffective some of the teaching is. Write stuff on the board to be copied, hand out worksheets, talk about totally unrelated stuff. Teachers, of all races, should be employed because they are competent educators and not simply because of the colour of their skins.

      siyadyosiba - 2012-04-24 09:11

      @umkwetha, you are completely out of your mind. If you wait for a white person before you do something, speak for yourself dude. I know that black people are trying their best to be economically and socially well off with and without the involvement of a white person. We are just dissapointed by the ANC government (corruption, nepotism, denialism, maladministration etc.) So be careful of assuming that you are with the rest of the blacks in that mindset (whites are supreme) of yours.

      nsda29 - 2012-04-24 11:02

      Siyadyobisa I think you live in a dream world. Its time you face reality. We dont like it when white people say negative things about black people, I agree with you but truth is 80% of the time they talking truth. Instead of being embarrassed and try to solving the problem address what do we do we call them racists. If we keep focusing in racism we will remain blind forever and our country will sink deep deep like the titanic. I'm from the Eastern Cape, born and raised there, but I left after I finished my studies because I didnt want employment there, I wanted progress in my career and EC cape wasnt going to help me there. when it comes to education the only good schools in EC are multiracial schools and private schools and unfortunately they are too expensive so poor pupils settle for what they can afford and unfortunately that is not good enough. Zille was just reminding us of the crisis in EC schools and if she was a black ANC person no one was going to complain. Because She's white and opposition Yhoooooooooo 'she insulted us! wake up sisi

      Liz - 2012-04-24 13:37

      @nsda - I liked your comment but I remind myself that maybe you are well into a career and you are the master/mistress of your own destiny and you make things happen for yourself! So many others that contribute here are not seeing any light at the end of tunnel and are angry and cannot take any criticism of themselves and need to blame others and so it goes on and on till as you say "we will sink deeper than the Titanic." But I am sad that the EC which pioneered education for African people and had great places of learning like University of Fort Hare and Lovedale College has just disintegrated like this. Where did it all go wrong?

      Saleé - 2012-04-24 21:31

      Hahaha - never laughed so hard, umkhwetha - Thobi here next to me says "umkhwetha" should've been just "Mkhwetha" to make it a person's name. The nuances of "these Bantu languages" are not easy to get on top of, are they?

  • Johann - 2012-04-24 08:34

    Dear Mrs Zille A few thousand education refugees are nothing. Wait till you see the e-toll refugees flocking to your province..

  • Tumelo - 2012-04-24 08:36

    So Mjongile is a heart specialist! Knowing what's heartfelt and what's not. Funny how the focus shifted from the state of education to singling out the refugee comment, which by the way happens to be true! So instead of correcting the education situation, you attack whoever tries to point it out.

      Nigel - 2012-04-24 09:00

      I could't have said it better myself, more smoke screen & diversion away from the real issue, the failure of the EC education system

  • Phumi - 2012-04-24 08:39

    Like any other genuine democrat with integrity she should do an honourable thing and resign from politics! Why do African leaders when they have erred in their ways not do that? Helen should lead from the front!

      Anthony - 2012-04-24 08:51

      what are you smoking?

      Nigel - 2012-04-24 08:56

      lol, wishful thinking troll

      Andres - 2012-04-24 08:56

      Yes, so Jimmy Manyi should resign for his Apartheidesque social-engineering utterances? ANC claims THEY lead, so they should set the example... oh wait... they don't even apologise!

      Smile - 2012-04-24 09:11

      @Phumi, What the hell is wrong with you? Has the cANCer gotten to you? Let me guess you are one of their uneducated voters? Shame... We both know if politicians in the cANCer party resigned due to scandal, corruption, aids denialism, racism, idiocracy, rape, promiscuity, ineptitude, murder… then the cANCer would not exist anymore. Go educate yourself and stop fighting against people who are trying to help you. You and I both need Zille. We all need her because she is the future of SA.

      Henry - 2012-04-24 09:14

      Educated in the eastern cape will make you think like that phumi

      Shirley - 2012-04-24 10:46

      Like the corrupt anc leaders?? Dont see any of the gravy floaters leaving!

  • Freddie - 2012-04-24 08:41

    No apology was needed for telling the truth. The ANC owes us an apology for being a poor excuse for a political party. Incompetence and corruption are rife.

  • Vic - 2012-04-24 08:44

    Get over yourselves ANC. At least she had the guts to apologize, which is more than I can say for you. It's just 'sour grapes' because you don't control the Western Cape

  • Ben - 2012-04-24 08:45

    I'm disappointed to the fact that she apologized.

  • Andrew - 2012-04-24 08:45

    What does the ANC call all the Black people in RSA who are claiming assylum from their countries of origin? If they are not refugees please tell us what they are!

      Sean - 2012-04-24 13:08

      you delusional old man go and take a nap

  • leigh.ridgway - 2012-04-24 08:45

    So, she's damned if she does and damned if she doesn't! Where is YOUR apology ANC? The apology that you owe the COUNTRY for your insincere promises, your failures and your lies??? If there was ever a pot calling the kettle black, this is it right here people!

      bluzulu - 2012-04-24 12:18

      Whats the call on Nipples this morning? Young Leroy got arrested last night , thanks to your advise. heheeheheheehee

  • Nicholas - 2012-04-24 08:45

    Would Songezo Mjongile like to see Zille dress up in sack cloth and ashes and get down on her knees and start wailing for forgiveness in the streets? would that make her happy? The fact that she is apologizing in the first place is as a result of unrelenting pressure from those who pretended to take offense to a word that was used in context, in order to divert attention away from a monumental disaster, being committed against the school pupils of the eastern Cape by the ANC government.

      Nicholas - 2012-04-24 09:20

      Wouldn't you just like to see that Tumelo! Then you really wouldn't have to think about the real issues at play!

      Tumelo - 2012-04-24 09:25

      @nicholas, was being sarcastic! Now do I have to apologise?

      Nicholas - 2012-04-24 09:46

      yes please, and make it heartfelt..

      Smile - 2012-04-24 09:52

      @ Tumelo, he just assumed you were just another ANC fanatic ;) No need to appoligise. Seems alot of people have lost their humour in these threads :(

      bluzulu - 2012-04-24 12:19

      Thumelo , will never learn. Don't be token, please...............

  • ndyeboreginaldmazawule - 2012-04-24 08:46

    What do they want frm Zille now? Th woman is eating a humble pie nd well apolgised. Wht is a heartful apology.

  • Gert - 2012-04-24 08:47

    Calling black people refugees and still expect them to vote for your part,we are not going back to apartheid,under the DA we will be even called by the K word everyday.tell afrikaaners to breed faster to help you govern this country!!!!!

  • lydonmcg - 2012-04-24 08:47

    You assume we care what the ANC thinks.

  • Carlton - 2012-04-24 08:47

    One wonders are they that scared of Helen. In that case she must lead DA till they are out.

  • Andile - 2012-04-24 08:48

    Helen Zille was spot on about the state of education in the Eastern Cape but she was wrong by using the word 'refugees'. The people can't be refugees in their own country.

  • NrGx - 2012-04-24 08:48

    "Her apology is not genuine, it's a political stunt," he said. And what do you call this "un-acceptance" speech?

  • Christo - 2012-04-24 08:49

    It was heartfelt - it just did not come across like that on camera, she could not show emotion in her face because of the Botox ;-)

      Jacqui - 2012-04-24 11:51

      Anyone wearing a stupid shirt like yours, should not speak.

      bluzulu - 2012-04-24 12:20

      hehheheheh Botox,

  • mastersvoice - 2012-04-24 08:51

    Of course its a political stunt! she is a politician, and that's what they do! Just like Zuma's "apologies" about his inability to keep his member in his pants! This response to Zille's apology is also a political stunt. I have yet to see a politician do something purely because its the "right thing". By the way - I hear the education boss there is also about to become a refugee? Perhaps the focus should be on the fact that our education is a disgrace, much like our beloved president.

  • Jane - 2012-04-24 08:52

    What should she apologise for? Speaking the truth? The ANC are like a bunch of children throwing tantrums as soon as they are reprimanded.

      Saleé - 2012-04-24 21:57

      I doubt she's apologising to the ANC, Jane. In fact, I am sure of it. Give her some credit - she's bigger than that. She's apologizing to her "fellow South Africans".

  • Dave - 2012-04-24 08:54

    What did we expect from the ANC

  • Jacques - 2012-04-24 08:55

    when does the ANC worry about heartfelt?!!

  • Reuben - 2012-04-24 08:56

    I I live in KZN and go to university in GP im a refugee because i have to get used to the ways in GP which will be new to me. I dont think there was a need for an apology. ANC need to sort out their own party before they point their fingers at other parties.

  • Carlton - 2012-04-24 08:56

    How dare does Helen Zille over estimate the inteligence of the masses. She must start using plain kitchen enlish eg the ANC es not triting east cape small ones right, they serch educachin far from umata, dis must stop now. Every would of understood.

  • - 2012-04-24 08:56

    If you check out the video, she only apologised "for the impact of those words" she did not apologise for calling them refugees. Well done Tannie Helen ;-) And how was it ever aimed at black people secretary Mjongile?? It was aimed at anyone who suffers from poor education in the Eastern Cape.

  • Reuben - 2012-04-24 08:59

    I I live in KZN and go to university in GP im a refugee because i have to get used to the ways in GP which will be new to me. I dont think there was a need for an apology. ANC need to sort out their own party before they point their fingers at other parties.

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  • marumobongani - 2012-04-24 09:04

    get over it damn it if you think you could use that for a political battle well thats lame let get to some serious politics

  • Pussycat44 - 2012-04-24 09:05

    That's rich, coming from the ANC!

  • Hugh - 2012-04-24 09:05

    ANC; you're a bunch of chops! Why should Godzilla apologize for a situation YOU caused?? Where's your "heartfelt" sympathy for the chaos you've caused in the Edu system?? Corrupt hypocrite thieves!! May the fleas of a thousand camels infest your armpits!

  • Rob - 2012-04-24 09:05

    Almost apology for the distress caused (because that was not the intent, maybe) is 100% right. Apology for the word usage, pointless really because her usage is easily supported by precedents in the public domain. So Helen certainly exposed how close to the surface the emotional nerves of many are, and because politics is about ketting people to your view I am with Helen on this. But she is sensible enough to realise that without a teeshirt and cake she has little hope of any real gains.

  • Glyn - 2012-04-24 09:06

    Of course the anc says that the apology is not heartfelt! They are desperately hanging onto anything that they can to dis the DA. What have they said that was heartfelt in the last 20 years? Equality? No! Crime "we will leave no stone unturned"? No! Education? No! Has Zuma apologized for singing about his machine gun? No! Now get things into perspective! Just think for yourself... the semantics of one word and the anc go crazy compared to the corruption, mismanagement, lies, destruction of infrastructure and behavior of the anc? Now which party would you want to manage your country? Will the anc hold a live TV debate on any subject with the DA? No, they will lose! Vote DA! For South Africans! For South Africa!