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Zille scathing on Zuma's re-election

2012-12-18 20:22

Johannesburg - The ANC's national conference election results will hasten the "disintegration" and collapse of the ruling party, Democratic Alliance leader Helen Zille said on Tuesday.

"Many ANC members and many more ANC voters are feeling alienated by today's decision in Mangaung."

Zille said it was a sad day for South Africa because Jacob Zuma's re-election as African National Congress president sent out a message that this was a movement that put "powerful people" above the law.

"This is particularly clear globally, where it is just inconceivable that a president who has avoided, for three years, facing trial on over 700 counts of corruption, could be re-elected a party president."

She was referring to Zuma's previous legal battle against corruption allegations, resulting from the fraud conviction of his former financial advisor Schabir Shaik.

In April 2009, the National Prosecuting Authority dropped the charges against Zuma, just months before he was elected into the country's top post.

The DA recently called on Zuma to take a leave of absence until allegations against him were dealt with.

Zille said Zuma's re-election also sent a message that "it is acceptable to use positions in government for personal enrichment, and not for public service".

She was referring to a multi-million rand upgrade at Zuma's Nkandla home.

Zille said Tuesday's results showed that the abuse of public funds was acceptable in the ANC, and that there were no consequences.

She said Zuma's lack of leadership on any major policy questions would continue "as will the corruption and abuse of public resources that has so far characterised his time in office".

Zille said the unemployed and poor South Africans particularly felt let down by the results.

"... as it is they who bear the real brunt of a president and government that cannot offer any implementable solutions for economic growth and job creation. "We invite all South Africans who are disappointed by the ANC's decision today to join this movement [the DA] - this new majority that is working for, and delivering, meaningful social change and job creation in South Africa."

Comments
  • patrick.saunders123 - 2012-12-18 20:28

    ...not to mention the country as well.

      christelle.theron.3 - 2012-12-18 20:40

      Absolutely. But I think it was ultimately the result which will serve the country well going forward. The ANC is FAR to powerful as it stands for SA to be called a true democracy. We need the party to lose power!

      kndobe - 2012-12-18 22:39

      @Sean, you do not mean that now surely? Civil war? comeon now

      kvanbreda - 2012-12-19 05:37

      Kndobe did you fall out of a tree on your head? Shame

      bob.mcmillen.564 - 2012-12-19 08:34

      Give the corrupt pig HELL Zille, make his life as uncomfortable as possible, the good to come out of this as you rightly said, his re-election will hasten the disintegration of the ANC, and that can't happen soon enough.

      bob.mcmillen.564 - 2012-12-19 09:27

      roiboss, have you been drinking ?, not sure what you are trying to say or who it is directed at.

      bob.mcmillen.564 - 2012-12-19 10:31

      roiboss, nah I have Levi genes, yes I do understand plain English, I just don't understand "If you guys are not happy leave you" what does this mean ? judging by your answer to me you your initial comment was directed at White South Africans, not sure why you want Africans to move to Europe, and "come to Europe" infers that you live in Europe, drinking the finest Scotch Whisky suggests you are on the gravy train, you don't sound intelligent enough to be able to afford the finest Scotch Whisky by any other means, am I getting close to the mark. You all rubbish anyway, is that aimed at white South Africans including, like me, whites from Europe that reside in South Africa, have you ever thought that could be construed as a racist statement, I hope I haven't confused you with some of the big words I have used, I'm just trying to clarify your initial comment.

      rob.vanjou - 2012-12-19 10:47

      Rooibos - Confusing individual you are. Working in europe yet making racist comments about white people. Well done. You speak about patriotism yet you live and work in europe. Again well done. You obviously have an inflated perception of yourself, europe will do that to you. Enjoy all things white while you are there.

      nkosinathi.maseko.39 - 2012-12-19 16:46

      Zille and her supporters must leave the ANC alone and canvass support in Australia or New Zealand. As much as I am not happy with some of the ANC at this stage, it does not mean that we will then vote for the DA. I am certainly not a 'rent a darkie' for a DA vote. Fact is, DA or any other white party will never rule SA again. Those not happy with the ANC should just the country for Aussie or NZ or Holland(whatever is called these days)

      paulvernonza - 2012-12-19 18:13

      @nkosinathi You are the epitome of what is wrong with African thinking or rather the lack thereof. Until you understand what a democracy is you will always be that "a poor black" not economically but intellectually. You do not have the cognitive skills to rationalize your idiotic statements. You want all South Africans to be treated equal but only if they are black. Whether you like it or not everything that blacks aspire today is as a result of European intervention. Please show me the great monuments, libraries, schools, universities, hospitals, roads , or any contribution that your culture has created prior to white settlement. You can bleat on all you like about what whites took from you. Apartheid will always be a blemish on SA history. The ANC lack of ingenuity and vision will go down in history just like every other revolutionary organization. "Revolution meaning turning round in a circle if you can understand that" Your problem is that when you hear criticism the only thought that comes to mind is that "it's because i am black " You are an insult to all hard working South Africans who strive to better themselves and this country. I have no problem what colour your skin is. I do take exception that you are satisfied with below par government that has no credibility and you worried about the 5,5% whites You need to get to grips with reality. The ANC are the weak link not the DA Stop smoking weed and go to school!!

      eduard.homes - 2012-12-20 04:37

      read the "Times" an international magazine and see what these journalists say about Zuma and the current leadership......it is going downhill.....

      morris.khunou - 2012-12-20 11:47

      Just another madness from Zille worth not reading!!!!

      piet.boom.90 - 2012-12-20 18:31

      Zille may she please concetrate on building DA,and less worry about ANC.

  • thabo.matlala.714 - 2012-12-18 20:29

    This is typical...

      phillip.marchant.52 - 2012-12-18 21:23

      Yes, it is rather typical, isn't it? But is this because Zuma's nemesis is just clutching at straws and looking to score political points, or is it because she feels duty bound to protect you from yourself and your choices? How is it possible for Madam Future President to 'cause trouble about Zuma', as you put it? How could anything she might dream up 'stick', as you are alluding, if there was no shred of evidence to back up her claims? Shabir Shaik was convicted of bribing Jacob Zuma, but Jacob Zuma is innocent, according to you? That's how water-tight your prejudiced little viewpoint is, Thabo. So be thankful that Helen Zille is looking out for you, for it is you that will first suffer, when you run out of money to pay Jacob Zuma, for the honour of voting for him. Already many have died by Jacob Zuma's hand, because monies for clinics and rural doctors has had to be re-channelled into a private military compound for when his time as a free fugitive runs out. The blood of those innocents is on many the hands of those who choose to be blind to the killing. Perhaps you might reconsider, therefore, before you gleefully give vent to your purile and racist mindlessness. This country has a better future for you; do not merely become Jacob Zuma's obedient little drone, with no other aspiration in life. A bull needs a ring to be led around by the nose - don't allow Jacob Zuma to control you with lies and false promises. He wants your life, and he'll take it, if you give it to him.

      dorette.forrester - 2012-12-18 22:46

      @ganon.nhubunga - nobody hates pure marginalised people - we hate people who complain about service delivery, schools etcetera and then DO ABSOLUTELY NOTHING - to change their situation. If you are happy with the way that this government is stealing tax papers money and using it for their own benefit and not yours - then go ahead - but PLEASE do strike, dance and toy toy when you are not receiving service. Do not complain when your children do not receive school books or proper education. JUST PLEASE DO NOT COMPLAIN - you've voted this government in then accept it and stop blaming Apartheid because that is long gone!

      rontheogre - 2012-12-18 23:02

      Gannon, thankfully the man on the street differs in view from yours. I do work in the townships in the Western Cape on a weekly basis, and even those that have come here from the Eastern Cape and KZN for work sing a different tune to yours. Yes, there are those that are fiercely loyal to the ANC, but that is also starting to waver. This is noticeable throughout the economic demographic, from rich to poor. Those that have flooded to CT have seen the ability of the DA to deliver with limited resources, and the word is spreading. Throughout all the forums I have visited online, more and more ANC supporters are indicating that they are going to support other parties, so in essence the Zuma victory is a victory for all the parties accept the ANC, but only 2014 will tell.

      Denny - 2012-12-18 23:13

      @Ganon - "there is no way the majority of blacks will give it back to whites to rule because of your attitude towards us". The majority of whites overcame a similar viewpoint way back in 1992 (also despite your attitude towards "us"). You do remember that the DA (via its predecessor parties) was *also* part of the liberation movement?

      jimbajen.dalton - 2012-12-19 07:12

      Lol, God help this country

      jeremy002 - 2012-12-19 07:52

      @ganon - naah, rubbish. Nice try, but the race card is worn out now, and contrary to what you believe, this has nothing to do with race, but everything to do with competence to lead and get South Africa back on track. There may be some hope for the country now with Mr Zuma's re-election though, because the divisions within the ANC will only widen, and people will begin to wise-up in time for the next election. Hopefully!! In the meantime, I believe we will have more of the same. The 'delegates' have just expressed their desire for more. They do not want things to change. They want more ANC in-fighting and less getting the country back on track. More lawlessness, more corruption, more theft of public funds, more unaccountability, more shifting blame, more self enrichment, more tender fraud, more degradation of the education system, more people with an inferior education, more teacher's strikes and pupil stayaways, more non-delivery and dumping of text books, more service delivery protests with trashing and burning, more economy destroying strikes with murders and intimidation, more hungry people, more power for the unions, more unemployment, more crime with violent and vicious fatal attacks on the victims, more illegal immigrants taking jobs at low wages, more housing shortages, more people on social welfare, more tax contributors leaving. They clearly have not had enough. More dancing and jiving, eating and drinking, and less actual work. That is what they do best.

      theo.konings.9 - 2012-12-19 08:55

      Yes typical CancER sheeple !!!

      maredi.mello.75 - 2012-12-20 11:00

      You sound very dump, morwarre!

  • debduplessis - 2012-12-18 20:30

    Here here... we all scathing! Its barbaric day for RSA history - the day the ruling party turned their backs not only on their members but all people of RSA --- now its time for us all to fight back & welcome a party in that can uphold our constitution, democracy & our rights as citizens of RSA .... Go DA!

      aphiwe.stivie - 2012-12-18 20:47

      Such astonishing acts shouldn't be allowed, a dignifyied and loyal citisen motlanthe is oppossed by vandalism and hypocritical culprits,he deserves to lead us to eternity,not hell and steal our wealth,,,just like the so called president of sex and scandal

      rontheogre - 2012-12-18 23:15

      Dirian, not a very good representative of Accenture, are you? I am sure they will agree when they read your comment. Amazing feat of deduction that you read into debduplessis' comment. How did you do it? Not once did I see a mention of race. Aaaah, I see that you must have read his/her state of mind when the comment was written. So you practice the black art of mind reading, .....oooops, the balck word, now I am being racist. Naughty boy, oops, racist again, you read my mind!

      SiquB - 2012-12-19 12:35

      Listen here bunch of stupid/idiots you claim to be clever but the black man taught you democracy and on top of that you are ruled by the man who never went to school cause you are so clueless

  • iqola.iqola - 2012-12-18 20:31

    DA supportes are like headless chicken, they are supposed to be dancing for joy cause they say if Zuma wins they will gain more votes, yet they are disgruntled DA supportes, have backbone DA supportes please

      Thalente.sithole - 2012-12-18 20:32

      Indeed!!

      bobby.rosewood.1 - 2012-12-18 21:00

      The DA doesn't want to be handed a bankrupt state when they win the majority vote, so they are worried.

      brian.exmachina - 2012-12-18 21:01

      That's rich, coming from the spineless jellyfish in the ANC with their corrupt elderly womaniser as leader. Haha, Zuma is one of the weakest leaders in any country ever. He doesn't make decisions, has lost the party 7% in electoral support, is 70 years old and going senile, is uneducated and ruled by his Spear, and doesn't take responsibility for anything. Headless chicken? Looks like the Greater Broad Chested ANCdog to me. Woof woof. Have fun at the Absolutely No Consequences re-election party.

      sandy.langenstrass - 2012-12-18 21:04

      @iqola.iqola....How short sighted you are...Zille is concerned of what this re election will do to our country....maybe it would do you good to have listened to Sky News today...when a discussion was held by Political analyst on the future of S.A with Zuma as it's President....let's just say they were not very complimentary about Mr Zuma. Sorry if you missed it....you would not have posted your above comment if you had heard it.

      iqola.iqola - 2012-12-18 21:20

      Sandra, Zille said Zuma will win in Mangaung and its good for DA will get more votes, why crying now??

      rontheogre - 2012-12-18 23:17

      Iqola, we like to keep you guessing, and you make it so easy, too.

      tamlynloraine.liebenberg - 2012-12-19 04:26

      Iqola DA supporters are not power hungry, they are more concerned about the welfare of our country. Just as the DA is not rejoicing for the same reason.

      wo0two0t - 2012-12-19 07:36

      Because Iqola its very very bad of the country and the DA cares about SA unlike the ANC.

      dewaldmontgomery - 2012-12-19 08:17

      Trust us, we ARE dancing for joy. But we also care for our fellow South Africans, unlike ANC morons who only care about themselves. The DA has told the ANC before Zuma's FIRST election as ANC president that it will come back to bite them in their asses. Back then, we were told ### off, racists. So well, now we'll just sit back and relax while things take a turn for the worst over the next five years.

      monique.jackson0 - 2012-12-19 08:25

      You calling the DA supporters headless chickens? HAHAHAHAHAHA! Hilarious! But keep voting for a corrupt man and enjoy paying for his mansion while you scrape your cents together every month... THEN you decide who the headless, brainless chickens are Sir!

      lorraine.polson1 - 2012-12-19 12:39

      You're a moron!! You don't even make sense!!!

      maredi.mello.75 - 2012-12-20 11:03

      they probably will gain more support. But deal with the issue at stake here, and that is the fact that JZ is athief that belongs behind bars, not leading the country.

  • patrick.george.7758 - 2012-12-18 20:31

    Well said!

  • hannah.p.mostert - 2012-12-18 20:31

    AG I give up with this government I can only make my vote count when its my chance again.

  • Twolips - 2012-12-18 20:31

    It is indeed a most disappointing, yet expected, result. Most of those in Mangaung have benefitted by Zuma's presidency one way or another. The DA must continue their good work, but some change in tactics will be required.

  • bongani.zwane.37625 - 2012-12-18 20:33

    Zille u r misleading the poor n unemployed...u using them 2fight ur political battles...DA will never b in power.if u cn get that thought ur skul(thick) then realize that ANC will rule even if u get more members 2join u(UDM,COPE...)Whts next???

      stefan505 - 2012-12-18 20:43

      @bongani, Zille is pointing out how corrupt your ruling party is. Self-enriching, corruption, complete lack of leadership. How you cannot comprehend this fact is beyound me....

      lacrimose.wolf - 2012-12-18 20:48

      Yep, thank JZ & friends for expected growth of 2.5% (used to be about 6%), more unemployment (circa 26%), more downrating (which makes our borrowing more difficult and more expensive), 16% Eskom electricity price hikes, more road deaths, more dysfunctional hospitals, more holes than roads. You ANC supporters are so predictable - dancing and celebrating and singing today and tomorrow tearing up the roads and setting fire to things

      brian.exmachina - 2012-12-18 21:13

      LOL. Shame Bongani. Does reality hurt? ANC in 2004: 69.69% of the vote. ANC in 2011: 62% of the vote. DA in 1999: 9.56% of the vote, DA in 2011: 24% of the vote. Western Cape in 2004: ANC majority, since 2009: DA majority. Gauteng in 2004: 68% ANC, in 2009: 64%, in 2011: 61%. Near losses in Tshwane, Johannesburg and Nelson Mandela metro's in 2011. And the man under whose "guidance" this has happened has just been re-elected. Viva Zoomer, viva; couldn't have asked for a better Christmas gift.

      rontheogre - 2012-12-18 23:22

      Stefan, seeing that Bongani is talking of thick skulls, even Motlanthe in an official speech expressly mentioned that the corruption under the ANC leadership is weakening the ANC, but that went unnoticed because the truth hurts, even more when exposed by their own leaders.

      derek.francois.3 - 2012-12-19 06:02

      Whts next is you go back to school and learn how to read and write PROPERLY

      dewaldmontgomery - 2012-12-19 08:19

      Bongani, you're in denial. The DA will govern. Town by town, province by province. Word is spreading, and you can't stop it. No matter the racist COSATU and ANC propaganda you're fed. The DA's results speak for themselves in 23 traditional ANC wards in Western Cape that have turned their backs on the ANC and now vote DA.

      ezelna.jones - 2012-12-19 09:53

      Bongani.. You must clearly live in a country with no poverty, no townships and the ANC rule has not increased unemployment, corruption and crime. I gather you don't live in South Africa. The educated people of SA has long moved on from the ANC. And dear Bongani.. you won't forever keep the people uneducated like the ANC has tried. People are learning, people's eyes are opening to the disarray of a government the ANC is running. It's just a fool, who believes one party will rule "forever". The national party thought the same, you should have joined them.

      jerome.rothman - 2012-12-19 11:03

      No party in the history of mankind. No Nation,No race no one is to powerful to rule forever.No one not now not ever .Change is inevitable and in our lifetime we will see the demise of the ANC

  • debduplessis - 2012-12-18 20:35

    So true ... !!!!!!!!!! This is the day the people of RSA meant nothing to almost 3000 people attending a conference they only started voting for at midnight! .... wouldn't be surprised if all where made drunk & handed pre-completed ballots papers in Zuma's favour!

      patricia.zwane.39 - 2012-12-18 21:06

      So true!!!they sold us, don't they see where this is heading? Mzanzi going down,hope millions fix this by voting different party. Ashamed to be South African under JZ leadership

      derek.francois.3 - 2012-12-19 06:06

      Aiiish Rahim has daddy got a tender? don't didli on this site and all.........................

      SiquB - 2012-12-19 12:43

      Thanks to mangaung and Zuma's re-election the rand is very strong Viva Zuma Viva

  • matla.khasake - 2012-12-18 20:35

    Gozilla, why do you have to shout from the top Clifton, you ought to be elated. We also don't care who was elected at your conference. Leave the ANC alone, MORON

      jerome.rothman - 2012-12-19 11:03

      No party in the history of mankind. No Nation,No race no one is to powerful to rule forever.No one not now not ever .Change is inevitable and in our lifetime we will see the demise of the ANC

      george.frangs - 2012-12-20 10:34

      We'll just wait for Zuma to shout from the hill-tops of NKANDLA then...

  • khanyo.ngwane.9 - 2012-12-18 20:36

    Political opportunism vs democracy

      debduplessis - 2012-12-18 20:48

      Political opportunism = ANC (Anarchy Nepotism Corruption) Democracy = DA (the only party with standards, moral fibre & know-how)

  • hezekiel.lefopane - 2012-12-18 20:36

    Zille if you think people hate Zuma like you do let's wait and see in 2014...your votes won't do any harm to ANC...Viva Msholozi Viva

      hannah.p.mostert - 2012-12-18 20:41

      you are so wrong hezekiel.lefopane but by 2014 you will be begging for DA and it will be too late because more jobs will be lost and more people will be starving and your government will be watching you die.

      debduplessis - 2012-12-18 20:49

      only 2900 like him .. there is 50millions more!

  • fdalana - 2012-12-18 20:39

    why does she sound defeated already? she is suppose to be planning on how to turn the tables around in 2014.

      rontheogre - 2012-12-18 23:27

      Not defeated, just disappointed in the gravy trainers that they con sell out their own people. Go and research how little control the average citizen, or even ANC supporter has in who is appointed(not elected) to represent them at Mangaung, then get worried, seriously worried.

  • matla.khasake - 2012-12-18 20:39

    DA is not going to win any election even with the help of Terror Lekota, we are going to trounce it again and again, and a.... Congrats comrade gedlethlekisa,

      nkhensanifaith.maluleke - 2012-12-18 20:47

      We love Zuma and there is nothing that anyone can do about it.yes he is building a house so what.black people let's unite and support ANC.Zuma people have voted and it shows that they love you.viva ANC viva,viva msholozi viva.I love you my president and I believe that one day is one day,you can not just woke up and make everybody happy

      lacrimose.wolf - 2012-12-18 20:58

      @nkhensanifaith.maluleke - "love is insanity. The ancient Greeks knew that. It is the taking over of a rational and lucid mind by delusion and self-destruction. You lose yourself, you have no power over yourself, you can't even think straight.” [Marily French]

      FooFunk - 2012-12-19 10:05

      @nkhensanifaith.maluleke you obviously didnt take maths at school because R250 million isnt a house its a town and you obviously dont pay taxes because its not fine to spent my money on irresponsible, unnecessary driville like that.....and for the millions living in shacks, you just betrayed your own people with a statement like that.....but then again your probably living in a nice big house so what would you care.....it astonishes me that the so called "racists" as we keep on getting labelled as seem to have more compassion for the very people who blindly continue to support these thieving degenerates...

      SiquB - 2012-12-19 12:48

      Infact they must all come together from Lekota ,Holomisa,Buthelezi and their surrogates ANC will beat them by far

  • kobus.hattingh.5 - 2012-12-18 20:40

    What's the problem Ms Zille? Surely this will work to your favour? I mean more years of self enrichment, more violent strikes, more unemployment, more downgradings, more theft for self enrichment! I would say that Zuma is the best man for the job and the job will be to self destruct the ANC. So, don't worry, be happy :)

      rontheogre - 2012-12-18 23:31

      Kobus, what you say is true. The election of Zuma will do more for the DA than any electioneering by the DA can do. Zille should offer him honorary membership to the DA for the votes he has driven to them.

      raath - 2012-12-19 07:45

      The problem is the damage it is doing to the country. At what point will all the looting and theft be irreversible? How difficult will it be to recover from it, if possible at all?

      konstabel.koekemoer - 2012-12-19 09:13

      The difference is that Zille and most DA suppoters are concerned about the future of the country ... not just about winning an election. Zuma and his fellow criminals don't care about South Africa, they aree only in power to enrich themselves.

      elsie.mnguni.9 - 2012-12-19 10:02

      shame Kobus...

  • GregGow1234 - 2012-12-18 20:41

    Zille why don't you just shut up for a change. Cyril Ramaphosa is there now and he will bring stability. Zille you big mouth alienates the minorities in this country.

      PointBlank - 2012-12-18 20:46

      cyril? He's marikana.. Lest you forget. He will look at ways of making more money. Jees, but you guys deserve the rot..

      GregGow1234 - 2012-12-18 20:55

      Marikana was created by other forces. Cyril did not give orders at Marikana. He is a business man and the country needs that confidence. The rand is stabilising and investors will be more comfortable with this. Julius Malema is totally out of the way.

      lacrimose.wolf - 2012-12-18 21:00

      Cabinet, NEC and ANC Parliamentarians don't even listen to JZ - the President, the Commander-in-Chief. What makes you think they will listen to Cyril, the 2ic?

      rontheogre - 2012-12-18 23:33

      She has as much right to speak as you do.

      richard.hipkin - 2012-12-19 08:59

      Greg, you delusional, sit down.

      FooFunk - 2012-12-19 10:16

      Do you honestly think a billionaire is concerned of the peoples well being.....thats hilarious.....and an example is the strike for LOW PAY at the Lomin mine which Cyril owes and is a director at etc......seems to me like hes a business man, in the business of making money not a public servant looking after the people interests.....which is what a polition is supposed to be.......

  • lanyardm - 2012-12-18 20:41

    I honestly have to say that I have not heard any great ideas from the DA about what they would do better for the country. the mantra for their campaign is if you do not like the ANC then vote the DA. their last election campaign went like Stop Zuma, I mean WTF Stop Zuma then what? DA is trying to take us for a ride.

      PointBlank - 2012-12-18 20:44

      that was 2 elections ago, try keep up.

      lanyardm - 2012-12-18 20:51

      @PointBlank lol I am not keeping up what were they saying on their last election? she is still saying the same thing though on this article!

      brendan.k.shaw - 2012-12-18 21:53

      Ek sien u volstruis mentaliteit steek kop uit. Please read the DA's ideas on their website

      solo.mathe.5 - 2012-12-18 21:57

      Ditto!... If this gogo doesn't stop insulting our intelligence with her lame campaigns, we would actually give the DA a chance. But she's too racist to comprehend that Africans do know the difference between a speech from the lips and the speech from the heart. This is where the ANC has superior understanding, cos we all know they are full of crap too... But at least they are not down right offensive with their lies... Maybe with their corrupt and incompetent actions!... Two evils neh!!!

      derek.francois.3 - 2012-12-19 06:13

      Hey Solo you really make me laugh "superior understanding" ha! ha! ha! ha! ha! ha! ha! ha!

      wo0two0t - 2012-12-19 07:42

      Who cares how they do politics all that matter is how they run the country - isn't that what they're there for? They are here to lead not rule.

      elsie.mnguni.9 - 2012-12-19 10:04

      Thank you Lanyardm.

  • sthembiso.jali.50 - 2012-12-18 20:41

    Ah our noisey neighbours, what is she complainig about now ?..

      tersia.louw.12 - 2012-12-19 09:47

      Maybe if you read the article, you'd know. Don't read? Ah - ANC education.

  • hezekiel.lefopane - 2012-12-18 20:42

    one wonders whether Zile was going to join ANC if Zuma lost..she can't just shut up

      PointBlank - 2012-12-18 20:43

      why should she? Just sit down.

      FooFunk - 2012-12-19 10:19

      Truth hurts hey......like everything else in the country, you just expect it to be swept under the cartpet

  • michael.jackwood - 2012-12-18 20:45

    Helen Zille and her followers and some are found here at news24 enjoy fantacy, they have this dream where they see ANC dead, and them being in power, guys its NOTgoing happen in your life time,let me bid my farewel on this site, i will again comment towards 2014 election, enjoy throwing insults at ANC and our president, thats what you and your leader Helen are good at, as for us, we will deal with you at the ballot box later. CHEERS.

      lee.brand.73 - 2012-12-18 21:26

      Bye. You running away from Tannie Helen? She scares you hey!

  • mfaniseni.thusi - 2012-12-18 20:46

    People have spoken, long live ANC long live, long live Msholozi long live, long live Cyril long live. Zille talk about DA and those blacks who enjoy your hugs. Real people voted.

      debduplessis - 2012-12-18 20:51

      the gravy-trainers voted!

      Fundukululukunjakunne Why Cano - 2012-12-18 21:05

      Real people voted? the fate of 50mil South African has been sealed by 4000 people?

      talana.malherbe - 2012-12-18 22:15

      Sorry Mfaniseni, real people won't vote for a lying thief.

      rupesh.hari.7 - 2012-12-18 23:55

      justanotherguy.fromsa - your condescending comment is one reason why blacks won't vote for the DA. They associate DA (unfortunately) with racists like you. It was you white people who started this with apartheid. Don't forget that. This comes from a DA supporter, so take that.

      derek.francois.3 - 2012-12-19 06:17

      "Real people" REALLY!!! Long live idiotic ANC voters leading to the short lived rule of the ANC.....

  • mfaniseni.thusi - 2012-12-18 20:49

    Zille what is your comment about the Mangaung terrost?

      milan.daniz - 2012-12-18 23:05

      terrost?

      will.hodge.524 - 2012-12-18 23:15

      I bet a terrost tastes nice.

      tersia.louw.12 - 2012-12-18 23:18

      Does it come with fries?

      derek.francois.3 - 2012-12-19 06:23

      "terrost" aaaaaaiiiish thusi you've been in the son too long my boy it's ter roast your brain............

      richard.hipkin - 2012-12-19 09:01

      Why would you want her to comment on useless right wingers? Strange question??

      elsie.mnguni.9 - 2012-12-19 10:08

      what is nice is you understood what he meant. TERRORISTS

      maylani.bezuidenhout - 2012-12-19 20:25

      you have a terrost with jam, mnguni jam

  • tj.maseko3 - 2012-12-18 20:50

    If u don't bea them join them u will be next president

  • sandy.langenstrass - 2012-12-18 20:51

    This will be a joy to watch as this regime tumbles....no party can be successful while they are corrupt and enrich themselves, and forget the poor, that they claim to be fighting for....interesting times lie ahead.

  • toofaan.monsoon - 2012-12-18 20:54

    Dear Ms Zille, please concentrate your efforts outside of the WC. I assure you that there are plenty of people (especially in KZN) just looking for some hope. The DA is not visible enough here. Also, please campaign for what you do or can do. Don't make everything about what the ANC is not. People know this already. I find the DA too reactive. Take the initiative instead. More ideas etc please. Own the high ground. Do not make the mistake of thinking that uneducated people are stupid. They need to see the good that you can do, not only the evil that you stand against. Just my 5c worth.

      tersia.louw.12 - 2012-12-18 23:20

      Have a look at the DA website, toofaan.monsoon.

      elsie.mnguni.9 - 2012-12-19 10:09

      Amen my brother!

      maylani.bezuidenhout - 2012-12-19 20:29

      they are the opposition, in a democracy they are suppose to be doing what they do... sigh. If you want to know about what the DA does come visit the Western Cape and look around, speak to people. The ANC has a habit of taking DA policies and ideas and selling it off as their own so why should the DA continue taking them to school? Pity they can't make any of it actually work.

  • alananthonygreen - 2012-12-18 20:56

    ANC is rotten. DA has proven they can and do help all South Africans.

      mfanafuthi.mhlungu - 2012-12-18 21:07

      so they must win the election 2prove it da are the terrorist of the country.

      bongani.zwane.37625 - 2012-12-18 23:16

      U tlking rubbish cos u dnt how its like 2b oppressed...u r rotten cos ur forefathers treated my forefathers like animals...

      richard.hipkin - 2012-12-19 09:01

      Huh? I couldn't understand the last two comments...

      richard.hipkin - 2012-12-19 09:02

      bongani, tell you forefathers to take it up with our forefathers.

      elsie.mnguni.9 - 2012-12-19 10:10

      what have they done for South Africans not WC.

      hugo.mcdonald.7 - 2012-12-19 12:12

      @elsie: The WC is also populated by South Africans.....

  • Pops Rampersad - 2012-12-18 20:57

    Fellow South Africans, this was for the election of the ANC leadership for the next 5 years by ANC Members. Should you wish to participate in future ANC elections (that also applies to “know it all” Zille), sign up as a member and join an ANC Branch near you. This process is not complicated!!!

      lee.brand.73 - 2012-12-18 21:22

      Why would we want to join thieves? Rather IFP, ACDP or DA. They are not corrupt to their core.

      talana.malherbe - 2012-12-18 22:13

      You are joking right?? Why on earth would we want to join a bunch of lying thieves?

      derek.francois.3 - 2012-12-19 06:30

      Hey 'Pops' its not complicated to figure out that you're just another 'Moodley' on the gravy train - so hows uncle Mac?

  • thabo.modiba.7 - 2012-12-18 20:59

    Knock knock. Hello DA...

  • louis.langenhoven - 2012-12-18 21:00

    aag my dear Helen- this is a time for Xmas spirit and goodwill. You were never in the race- the guy got 2900 votes vs his competitors 900. Congratulate him and wish him well, pray for our country and start giving him hell in the new year...You are at risk of sounding like a sore loser (not that I necessarily disagree with you but its a timing thing and the DA seems to become more and more an opposition of whiners and bad timing- just saying). Have a merry Xmas

      louis.langenhoven - 2012-12-18 21:08

      PS pretty photo of you

      tersia.louw.12 - 2012-12-18 23:22

      Of course she was never in the race, Louis; it was an ANC race. Did you not get that?

  • thabo.manganye - 2012-12-18 21:01

    Zille it looks like you have already accepted defeat in the upcoming elections because you are saying Zuma will ruin the economy of the country meaning you have already endorsed him as the winner of 2014

      will.hodge.524 - 2012-12-18 22:51

      It is sad when you cannot even interpret a simple article. Aaah the sa education system has done wonders for you.

  • Stewart Croucamp - 2012-12-18 21:02

    So good to hear an intelligent leader speak.

  • tsebe - 2012-12-18 21:03

    idiot why dnt u go to court cos thts u d bst :-)??

      richard.hipkin - 2012-12-19 09:11

      It's "don't", "cause", "that's", "you", "do" and "best". The complete sentence would look like this, "idiot, why don't you go to court cause that's what you do best."

      theo.konings.9 - 2012-12-19 11:51

      why dnt u go bck to skool cos u mk no cents

  • lawrence.sambani.3 - 2012-12-18 21:03

    Which do you prefer???Motlanthe win and bring Malema back or Zuma stays on.

  • liezl.haramis.7 - 2012-12-18 21:05

    tj...shame...didnt learn to spell or articulate...shame...

  • shadyVan.der - 2012-12-18 21:07

    Zille is more pathetic than Malema really she should work on strengthening her party instead of meddling in internal affairs of other parties. She is no better n sounds like a broken record coz she never says anything that brings lightinto our life only moans like a hag that she is!! All u ever hear us moaning rather than what she can improve, leave the ANC alone magogo!!!! Viva ANC till the 2nd cumin of Jesus!!!!!!

      lee.brand.73 - 2012-12-18 21:11

      She is meddling in the affairs of South Africa. I note that you anc types are really scared of her. She will stop your thieving in 2014. Ha ha

      lee.brand.73 - 2012-12-18 21:31

      She is meddling in the affairs of South Africa. I note that you anc types are really scared of her. She will stop your thieving in 2014. Ha ha

      alexcon85 - 2012-12-18 21:41

      i heard a rumour the 2nd coming of Christ will be around mid-year 2014

      tersia.louw.12 - 2012-12-19 17:27

      We could miss the cumin among the coriander, nutmeg and cinnamon.

  • liezl.haramis.7 - 2012-12-18 21:07

    Smile people...theybare trying to.push buttons...they still hsve hair that grows " funny"...hehe...

      tersia.louw.12 - 2012-12-19 00:17

      How is the way hair grows relevant to anything? You're not in a strong position to criticise ANYONE'S lack of articulation.

      richard.hipkin - 2012-12-19 09:12

      Wow, Liezl, go away. We don't need your racist diatribe here please..

      richard.hipkin - 2012-12-19 09:13

      Fake Facebook account - I think you black..

      johleneh - 2012-12-19 09:35

      You are a disgrace Liezl, a racist, ignorant and ILLITERATE disgrace.

      tersia.louw.12 - 2012-12-19 17:31

      PointBlank, I think you're right about the fake Facebook account, but I don't think she's black; I think she's from a different, less evolved planet.

  • musa.kamashobane - 2012-12-18 21:07

    Helen we have said this a while back in 2009 when Zuma got elected as the Pres. of this country. I welcome his appointment because its going to cost ANC substantial votes in 2014. I am not sure if Cyril will rescue Zuma after Mthlante has failed

  • gift.ndebele.14 - 2012-12-18 21:09

    Helen Zille has a crush on Zuma straight!!! Its a pity Msholozi doesn't have a thing for white women. They could have made cute babies though, kwaaaaa!!

      talana.malherbe - 2012-12-18 22:04

      No woman worth her salt would have a crush on Zoomer and thank goodness Zille have better taste than That!

      theo.konings.9 - 2012-12-19 12:03

      Helen has a husband who is a lecturer at UCT.What would she want with a goatherder with grade eight who can't keep it in his pants !!!

  • dewaldmarais - 2012-12-18 21:09

    Helen the ANC showed a complete lack of progress by re-electing the same leaders. Please show some initiative and mentor Lindiwe to stand for election come 2014, also get Motlanthe to join your cause - you might just win. Food for thought...

  • thabo.modiba.7 - 2012-12-18 21:11

    True, the people are tired of corrupt leaders. Mangaung might have said otherwise but that does not mean we agree. It can not be that everyweek allegations are levelled against head of state. Hense you will understand why Kgalema left.

      Seponi Anna Mfikoe - 2012-12-18 23:07

      very true

      Seponi Anna Mfikoe - 2012-12-18 23:07

      very true

      Seponi Anna Mfikoe - 2012-12-18 23:08

      very true

      tersia.louw.12 - 2012-12-18 23:31

      Turning down a position on the NEC told me Mr Motlanthe was distancing himself from the ANC upper echelon.

  • osmaseko - 2012-12-18 21:11

    The ANC never commented on the DA's conference however the DA always has something to say about the ANC internal issues. MADAME should get a life and focus on growing the DA

      Erna - 2012-12-18 21:20

      That's because the anc's internal issues affect every person in SA.

      osmaseko - 2012-12-18 21:25

      So Erna, since the DA's issues don't affect every South African we can safely say that they are useless and only good at moaning? Viva Azapo Viva What was so hard to congratulate Zuma as he was in competition with a good candidate?

      retha.vosloo.5 - 2012-12-18 21:51

      If the DA doesn't comment on the mess the ANC is doing they are not doing their job. And because the ANC is messing up everything the poor DA can't rest one second.

      sexyfancyface - 2012-12-19 04:52

      So because the ANC never commented on the DA conference does it make it wrong for Zille to comment? Geez you people are pathetic. It was their choice not to. There are political analysts who say all sorts of things so you reckon we should all shut up? No Maseko the madam should not shut up but you are right she should focus on growing the DA which is growing automatically, its not easy but it will be worth it in the end

      richard.hipkin - 2012-12-19 09:14

      Er, osmaseko, you do realise that Azapo is one of the opp. parties bringing the vote of no confidence against JZ alongside DA?

  • hezekiel.lefopane - 2012-12-18 21:14

    So called great leader never said anything about terrorists but she is quick to comment about ANC internal processes....it shows hatred to other race....

      lee.brand.73 - 2012-12-18 21:16

      ANC were experts at planting bombs in bars ....

      hezekiel.lefopane - 2012-12-18 22:21

      @lee ANC was fighting for their own country against racists

      sexyfancyface - 2012-12-19 04:55

      This is the beginning of dictatorship am telling you Blade, Hezekiel and all these people will start legislating what we should comment on and what we should not comment on, whats new we are in Africa for Pete's sake!

      richard.hipkin - 2012-12-19 09:16

      @hezekiel, you mean the multi-racial top 6 of the DA being racist against the entirely black top 6 of the ANC? HAhahaha!! You believe you own cr#p..

      jerome.rothman - 2012-12-19 11:05

      No party in the history of mankind. No Nation,No race no one is to powerful to rule forever.No one not now not ever .Change is inevitable and in our lifetime we will see the demise of the ANC

  • kingdom.mbetserious - 2012-12-18 21:14

    The reality is between the two parties you wanna enrich yourselves and while building your names in RSA's History books. I see no progress in both parties..... All u can do best is talking too much, please stop accusing one another and perform on service delivery as you always promise during the election season.

      brian.exmachina - 2012-12-18 21:25

      That's where you're demonstrably wrong Kingdom. DA municipalities keep getting clean audits, winning good governance awards, and outperform ANC municipalities. In 18 years the ANC has dug and dug for dirt on them and could only come up with a few uncovered toilets (mostly due to ANCYL breaking them down) and alleged irregularities in Midvaal. According to the governments own census data the Western Cape has the lowest unemployment rate in the country, and the highest rates of access to education. Economic growth in the Western Cape for 2012 is expected to be 3.9%, well above the national growth rate of 2.8%. They also have extremely well educated and articulate black leaders coming through the ranks. This can be contrasted with constant provable corruption in the ranks of the ANC. Murders, drunkards and thieves being appointed in positions such as head of Crime Intelligence and Police Commissioner nogal. Scandal upon scandal: illegitimate children, racism, draconian laws, Nkandla, e-tolls, Travelgate, the Arms Deal, downgradings by ratings agencies, uneducated ministers placed because of their struggle credentials etc. You have to be high to put the two next to each other, compare them objectively and say "I see no progress in both parties".

      alexcon85 - 2012-12-18 21:45

      What Brian said - couldn't have said it better myself

      solo.mathe.5 - 2012-12-18 22:04

      @brian. Thx for yet another essay... Don't you gogo people know anything else?.... Geeezzz.... Sit down!

      brian.exmachina - 2012-12-18 22:16

      Ag shame Solo, u mad? The truth rub you the wrong way? Damn all those alphabet characters to heck, hey? You only need 3 letters after all.

      richard.hipkin - 2012-12-19 09:27

      And even when you present fact and evidence of a better life under the DA the sheer arrogance and denial of the ANC members is quite amusing.. They say Zille should focus on growing hte DA? The DA have grown from 6% to 20% and STILL growing. Thanks!

  • Mbuso Siera - 2012-12-18 21:17

    Zille is going crazy......

      will.hodge.524 - 2012-12-18 22:57

      Are u scared? You better be

  • iqola.iqola - 2012-12-18 21:17

    ANC will rule until the Lord our Savior Jesus Christ himself comes back

      brian.exmachina - 2012-12-18 21:27

      Which will be between 2019 and 2024. I'll tell him hello from you.

      retha.vosloo.5 - 2012-12-18 21:31

      Hahaha.

      talana.malherbe - 2012-12-18 21:55

      Yes and you will still be poor, without a house or proper education by then!

      dylan.claude.752 - 2012-12-18 22:12

      Quite a hipocrate aren't you?now you want to tell us that you can see the future too.I don't think so.can you tell me if I will have a good game of golf tomorrow?I didn't think you were capable of telling me.

      sexyfancyface - 2012-12-19 04:57

      Hahahahaha then Jesus is coming soon He is coming very soon for real. For the fact that you always taint Jesus' whilst you continue to loot, Jesus will remove you lot from power before he comes though

  • pucksonsibusiso.gumede - 2012-12-18 21:18

    What an obsession with the President Helen Zille has ,she is delusional and really needs her head examined if she thinks that she can ever be the president of the country! She must forget it and concentrate on her racist party, she will never be the president of the country and has to live with the hard facts that JZ is the president of the country

      talana.malherbe - 2012-12-18 21:58

      Sadly you must also live with the fact that your president will keep on stealing your money and getting richer and you will remain poor.

      jerome.rothman - 2012-12-19 11:08

      No party in the history of mankind. No Nation,No race no one is to powerful to rule forever.No one not now not ever .Change is inevitable and in our lifetime we will see the demise of the ANC

  • mapale.peter - 2012-12-18 21:20

    I want to advise Zille tolook after her federal party(DA)and leave our democratic movement(ANC). your federal party know nothing about the democratic election. your paty does have experience in oppressing black people. Back off our president and look after your spaza party.

      alexcon85 - 2012-12-18 21:48

      History fact. The DA was (and still is) anti-apartheid - just saying.

      talana.malherbe - 2012-12-18 21:52

      Whahahaha ANC democratic party! What a joke! Thanks for a good laugh!

      will.hodge.524 - 2012-12-18 23:02

      There's not much we can say or do when the education system failed you

      sexyfancyface - 2012-12-19 05:00

      Hahahahahaha what a joke. Did you read and see, Winnie is being investigated for a crime she committed in 1988. That is Zuma for you, those who exercised their democratic right of voting for Kgalema are in for it and thanks to your thuggish version of democracy. Why now hmmmm?

      brian.exmachina - 2012-12-20 14:38

      Democratic? Trying to kill people who don't agree with you is democratic? Trying to stop freedom of speech is democratic? Trying to keep people from exposing corruption is democratic? You don't know what democracy is sister. Your use of the word is disgusting.

  • iqola.iqola - 2012-12-18 21:22

    Zille said Zuma will win in Mangaung and its good for DA will get more votes, why cry now??? you DA supportes behave the same as your mother Hellen Zille

      talana.malherbe - 2012-12-18 21:50

      From your comment one can see you have as much brains as you father Zoomer.

      sexyfancyface - 2012-12-19 05:01

      She is not crying. Vavi is crying too and many within your own ANC...OR DON'T YOU KNOW IT?

  • Sige Gorabeb - 2012-12-18 21:25

    Antie Zille, ken u miskien waar Malema is?

  • oupa.makombila - 2012-12-18 21:28

    sorry 2 malemas n zilles mayb in hell u wil bt zuma not in paradise. zille u wil luz ur position if u keep on chasing wind coz u dönt know when n where its gonna stop

      talana.malherbe - 2012-12-18 21:44

      You think its paradise while your people are starving? Real clever!

      nic.nomicos.3 - 2012-12-19 00:05

      And illiterate....