Zille to fight police in court

2012-11-08 22:37

Johannesburg - Western Cape Premier Helen Zille will oppose an application filed by Police Minister Nathi Mthethwa and police leadership challenging the establishment of the Khayelitsha commission of inquiry, she said on Thursday.

The commission is investigating allegations of police inefficiency in Khayelitsha, Cape Town.

"We have indicated that we intend to oppose the application," Zille said. "Our lawyers are currently studying these papers to prepare our responses to their legal arguments."

On Tuesday, lawyers acting for Mthethwa, General Riya Phiyega, Lieutenant General Arno Lamoer and others filed papers in the Western Cape High Court to have the commission temporarily suspended, pending a review of the decision to establish it.

All parties had agreed to postpone the court application to 10 December and would be made an order of the court on Monday, she said.

Postponing the hearing would allow lawyers adequate time to study the application.

"Part of this agreement is that the public hearings intended to begin on 12 November will not proceed and no effect will be given to the subpoenas issued to the SAPS," she said.

"However, this does not mean that the commission itself has been suspended and the other investigative work being done by the commission is not affected by this agreement."

The commission said earlier it had been suspended.

"The minister of police and seven other police applicants have filed papers for an urgent interdict to stop the work of the commission," commission spokeswoman Amanda Dissel said.

"In view of this application, the commission will not proceed with the public hearings."

It was due to begin its work on 12 November and continue until 14 December. A full report was due on 24 February 2013.

It was headed by retired judge Catherine O'Regan and advocate Vusi Pikoli.

Zille cited a breakdown of trust between Khayelitsha residents and the police as the reason for doing so.

Dissel said the commission would give notice of the date when hearings would resume. It would depend on the outcome of the litigation.

  • jy.wilmos - 2012-11-08 23:06

    Unfortunately, in South African courts you always stand the chance of being judged by a half-witted apartheid-era throwback who is normally torched on brandy by noon, or an ANC cadre deployee who knows less law than your beloved family dachshund. So even though Mthethwa's case has more holes than a penguin colony, he may win in the SA justice system lottery!

      koos.vandermerwe.372 - 2012-11-09 03:15

      I know the feeling.

      ronald.stilianou - 2012-11-09 11:28

      That was sooo funny, I pee'd a little

      leselmarie.waters - 2012-11-12 14:56

      In the western cape woman leads, cos white and colored men there don't have balls !! Prob on the bottle or taking drugs, ct men disgust me. In all of queer land there is no men to take over from Zille and her female partners.

  • thulanit3 - 2012-11-09 01:42

    Is Lindiwe Mazibuko married?, I just love her...! - 2012-11-09 01:55

      Get in Line..!

  • mshiniboys - 2012-11-09 02:11

    What do you expect in a country where police are seen of cctv walking side by side with criminals using state vehicles to pick up contraband.

      Nigel - 2012-11-09 07:22


  • duane.low - 2012-11-09 03:37

    What a joke!!! you guys all wanna fight and swear but you that dont live there want to judge? how funny!! the process has taken its course..... , Zille gave the cops more than enough time to fix the problems (reported to her)............... now they still have a problem and she is taking the steps to look after THE PEOPLES INTERESTS (not whites by the way) ........... now the cops want to stop the process of hearings??? it is a cover up and corruption of note!!!..... wait till it all comes out!! ..................... THIS IS NOT A WHITE PARTY PEOPLE IT IS THE RIGHT PARTY!! i cant believe that any "black ANC suporter " would allow himself to be ROBBED for another 4 years of taxes while his BROTHERS get rich of his one little vote and lunch pack on voting day!....... STUPID where is your promises from your party? and now the RIGHT party stands up for you??????

  • evans.mohale2 - 2012-11-09 04:20

    Mss hellen zille\we dnt just oppose anything solely because we are an opposition party\ i welcome the investigation by ministe nathi mthethwa

  • jan.reinecke.792 - 2012-11-09 04:50

    Bravo Helen!

  • Mzondi Wakwa Maqina - 2012-11-09 05:04

    I stay in some suburb in CT, and i go to Khayelitsha often. If you report a crime and the suspect being known by police then you wasting your time. A police friend told me of how they cover up for each other's crimes. Harare police station is a mess!!!!! Oh its in Khayelitsha.

  • fanie.gerber1972 - 2012-11-09 05:45

    Go for it - they know you are going to uncover their ineptitude on a public forum and are trying to hide it

  • Erna - 2012-11-09 06:01

    Me thinks the police minister is scared the commission may discover how corrupt the cops really are. Why else try and stop something that the people have asked for? ANC playing right into the DA's hands.

  • waz7710 - 2012-11-09 06:07

    Why are the ANC being so blatantly obvious about a cover up of the truth...........Again!!! Can nobody see this? Its just another typical day of our current corrupt government.......Hiding the truth and preventing it from coming to light. They have had their cross hairs on the Western Cape and will do ANYTHING to have it and destroy it too!

  • Erna - 2012-11-09 06:10

    Maybe Mthetwa is worried that the police will come out looking as bad as they are by the commission in Marikana.

  • Montagnes.Bleues - 2012-11-09 06:14

    South Africa now being the only remaining place on earth where the police go to courts to ensure they continue with supporting crime and criminals! In line with the disruption and undermining of Democracy by the tribalisation since zuma imposed himself as the zulu dictatorship - and is determined to do everything in the african shifty and untrustworthy subversive way! And to all the black racists trolling - uguh uguh uuuguh! nxa

      mshiniboys - 2012-11-09 07:05

      You see, it is so astonishing of you to first of all that you can tribalise Zuma and his political statements.your statements seeks to patronise me and my people.It suprises me more when you think that you have a right to disrespect our traditions and call them names in our own country.I dont want to say this but you really do disgust me when you do are of the most insolent trolls ever seen on this platform and you should be proud of yourself.

  • joe.smit.549 - 2012-11-09 06:18

    Oh! To be a lawyer in SA. Certainly rich pickings. What category do lawyers fall into, on the stock market. Need to acquire a few shares.

  • Marco van Rensburg - 2012-11-09 06:32

    ingwani sithole, dum statement! Blacks only use one word when debating: you whites are racists! That is not debating lol!

  • Anthony C. Onwudiegwu - 2012-11-09 07:06

    A racial and politically motivated and guided course mostly come difficult for people who follow with open mind to contibute.\r\n\r\nThe DA may have good intenssion by ordering pannel of enquiry to look into policing in Kailesha, but the party's attitude and ways of applying themselves to issues of nation building is very worrysome that every move they make raise some kind of suspition of sabotarging an interest or to cause distruction for the rulling paty or to find loophole to score political point and to run down somebody or a section of ANC ruling body.

      Nigel - 2012-11-09 07:30

      OK - so you would rather be kept in the dark and not be made aware of the massive ongoing corruption and inefficiency of the ruling party. Surely if you love your country you would want the best for it and all the people. Thank God someone is prepared to stand up for all of us, and reveal the incredible failure of this corrupt government. What 'other way' do you suggest they follow? There is only one way and that is to expose the truth.

  • blip.noodlum - 2012-11-09 07:27

    Rip them apart, Godzille!

  • hudayfah.newman - 2012-11-09 07:29

    Well someone wants to cover up something. These crooks needs to be removed from the police force.

  • Louise Whittingstall Barnard - 2012-11-09 07:29

    The Police ministers actions here just confirm what the DA already knows, There is a policing problem in Khayelitsha!!!!!What a blatant cover up!!! Its almost laughable!

  • rory.n.price - 2012-11-09 07:30

    Sganya agree as what Zoooooma said do it the African, way why turn to courts when a couple of tyres will do

  • lucky.mabunda.92 - 2012-11-09 07:31

    Go Zille,Go Zille

  • jaysonpaul.beckwith - 2012-11-09 07:33

    Trying to pull the wool over our eyes!!!! Baaaaaaaaaaaaahumbug!!!!!

  • MAVHUTSA - 2012-11-09 07:45

    Why are we all always surprised,shock,“can't believe it” etc etc By the actions of the government and anc,I mean we voted the guy fresh from court just after an amazing “shower statement” you want him to be decisive and all...let's take the blame.

  • brenda.butcher.7 - 2012-11-09 08:35

    Why do the police want to stop this commission? Is it not in their best interest to get to the heart of the problem in that district and get on a better relationship with the people they are supposed to SERVE? Unfortunately it seems that the SA Police use their position to be authoritarian rather than to the "serve and to protect" motto that is the intention of all police forces in the world.

  • brenda.butcher.7 - 2012-11-09 08:43

    Why are they trying to stop this commission? Would it not be in their best interest to have this investigation completed and get to the heart of the problem? Then a better relationship between the populace and the police could be encouraged.The police service is just that ..a service to protect, not an authoritarian dictatorship. If it is found that the police are not efficiently doing their jobs they should go back to training. Especially in their knowledge of the law and the rights of the people.

  • petr.valcik1 - 2012-11-09 09:06

    I think people are missing the point here. Think of this as an audit - if there are no issues then the commission will run and find that. However if there are issues - then it will expose those and hopefully create the necessary attention to fix them. Rather than being against it - I would actually be happy if it was done all over the country. Corruption could be reduced and tax payers money could be used more effectively - even for training up the police force to be more effective/skilled and better equipment. Not only that - better crime fighting means a safer South Africa for everyone which is ultimately what every law abiding citizen should wish for.

  • jacqui.daanevanrensburg - 2012-11-09 12:49

    Mthethwa should have resigned after the mine shootings.

  • vivian.harris.73 - 2012-11-09 22:41

    Why Zille still bother? SA voted for the ANC to replace the NP. Now the people aren't happy about the way things are...They still gonna vote ANC and keep complaining.

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