Zille's Zuma remarks 'have no credibility'

2012-12-19 15:49

Johannesburg - DA leader Helen Zille's remarks on the re-election of Jacob Zuma as ANC president have no credibility", the Eastern Cape ANC said on Wednesday.

"Anyone who, accidentally, came across the statement she released following the elections of top six officials of the ANC, will agree that this clever by half statement has no value, sense and credibility," spokesperson Mlibo Qoboshiyane said.

He said Zille's remarks were "less clever than the utterings of a drunken person".

Her comments were part of her "decaying attacks" against the ANC.

Sad day for SA

Zille earlier said the ANC's national conference election results were a sad day for South Africa because it sent out a message that the ANC was a movement that put "powerful people" above the law.

Zille, who is also Western Cape premier, said "corruption and abuse of public resources that has so far characterised his [Zuma's] time in office" would continue.

Qoboshiyane said Zuma had never been convicted of corruption in court.

"Making insinuations contrary to this is utter disrespect," he said.

Democratic Alliance spokesperson Mmusi Maimane defended Zille's criticism of Zuma.

"I think what we must argue as South Africans is that the ANC is aware that its own choice of president has implications for our country."

  • christelle.theron.3 - 2012-12-19 15:58

    I believe if you speak to most South Africans (all groups) they would agree. Zuma was not elected by the people, he was elected by an elite group - I believe benefactors of his work ethics

      christelle.theron.3 - 2012-12-19 15:58

      That is agreeing with what Zille is saying, not the article.

      lacrimose.wolf - 2012-12-19 22:09

      So the people still have an opportunity to overturn this elite decision in 2014.

  • moses.m.masilela - 2012-12-19 15:59

    Zille you wont be a president of this country in your lifetime and that is a fact.

      FarmerJoe - 2012-12-19 16:02

      but a corrupt showerhead is an overwhelming shoe in. cANCer can be beaten

      Erna - 2012-12-19 16:03

      She probably agrees with you!

      richard.hipkin - 2012-12-19 16:04

      Maybe but Mmusi Maimane will be... hahahaha!! Viva DA! Oh, I noticed that the top 6 of the ANC are all black... tut tut..

      dimitripappas - 2012-12-19 16:25

      Amen Inhlanzi. That is the true reality of the situation. Moses just made an assertion out of racist arrogance - this proves that he fails to use his mind, but is a clear racist, nothing more and nothing less.

      danie.strydom.7 - 2012-12-19 16:26

      @ Moses Masilela - Let me summarise the complete content of what you call your brain : " "

      moses.m.masilela - 2012-12-19 17:01

      @danie strydom, ignoring facts is a direct route to stupidity and delusion. I'm not in support of Zuma neither Zille, forgive me for stating an obvious fact which has been proven over and over again.

      moses.m.masilela - 2012-12-19 17:05

      @danie strydom, ignoring political facts leads you to a direct route of stupidity, delusion and immaturity. I'm not in support of Zuma neither Zille. Forgive me for stating an obvious fact which doesn't need a research. Grow up

      kimard - 2012-12-19 17:26

      yay inhlanzi - finally a person making sense

      danie.strydom.7 - 2012-12-19 17:58

      @ Moses Mamparra - " "

      annalene.nel - 2012-12-19 20:12

      Unfortunately you are right moses, and why is that a fact ? : because the majority of this country is stupid and they all vote for the anc and that will never change - all uncivilised, uneducated morons.

      mthetheleli.ntshobololo.1 - 2012-12-19 21:08

      Godzilla is the product of apartheid, South Africans would be fools to vote her in. She can make much noise as she can but to be the president of this country is dream that will never come true.

      wimpy.vanderwesthuizen - 2012-12-20 07:13

      what a pity moses

      roi.boss1 - 2012-12-20 09:01

      Well observed Moses. and don't mind that dannie character he is Afrikaaner and they always have a tendency of being delusional hence apartheid and recently trying to bomb the ANC conference lol I think its down to the brandy and coke

      kvanbreda - 2012-12-20 09:16

      The fact that you are trying to make Zille the baddy is a sign of your education. If she was in power you would have to work for your results at university and not buy or get it for free. That's why stupid remarks like this is made. Just look at the difference in service proving in the W/Cape and Gauteng and other places in the country then you think again. You are supposed to be an educated person. Don't follow the dumb masses, think for your self

      Robert - 2012-12-20 13:01

      Zille might not be but, the "sheep" will eventually get to end of the cliff and when asked to "jump" will say haai kona...voetsek.It's coming boy it's coming.

  • richard.hipkin - 2012-12-19 16:05

    Eastern Cape?? One of the poorest performing provinces in SA... lol!!! What a bunch of muppets..

      richard.hipkin - 2012-12-19 16:29

      Mbuso, it should have already gotten there... But the amount of infighting, corruption and backstabbing going on there who are the people suffering? That's right! The very same people who the previous government neglected... So what difference is there between the ANC and the NP?

      kimard - 2012-12-19 16:33

      almost 20 years down the line and its still a ef-up shame haha

      bobby.rosewood.1 - 2012-12-19 17:18

      Mbuso, this year alone 6 billion rands was stolen through corruption. Do that over the 18 past years, invest that in the EC and the province would be more developed by now then Hong Kong.

  • No.You're a handbag - 2012-12-19 16:06

    Lol. I love the way they stick their fingers in their ears and sing lalala - and expect everyone ELSE not to hear. Reason number 100,000,001 that the ANC will fail.

  • richard.hipkin - 2012-12-19 16:06

    Resorting to petty insults... shame, must suck to be such a bitter and twisted person. "Qoboshiyane said Zuma had never been convicted of corruption in court." Um we still waiting for the tapes...

      djmain1 - 2012-12-19 17:23

      And uhmmm - the judge found that there was a generally corrupt relationship between Schaik & Zuma. That was the judgement in a court of law! Zuma has been doing everything possible (by legal & illegal means) to stay out of court. Phantsi cANCer, phantsi!!!

  • darryl.maze1 - 2012-12-19 16:08

    Mlibo your comment is pathetic. Seriously even a 2yr old could have said something better. You and the rest of your brainless and idiotic ANC dont know what you want. If it was the ppl that could vote Zuma out, well he woul;d have been out, but because only the elite can vote and are getting the golden hand shake welll there is no future. It's amazing how only you ANC idiots cannot see how this country is being ruined by your ANC government. You are all to brinwashed.

  • osmaseko - 2012-12-19 16:08

    hah hah hah you gotta love politicians....this guy should be scared, Madame will take her to court for these utterances

  • mmudzielwana - 2012-12-19 16:10

    Hellen Zille must stop thinking like an idiot. Attacking Zuma always means undermining us all. Who does she think she is? We are not fools

      charl.malan.12 - 2012-12-19 16:17

      yes you are

      graham.horn.505 - 2012-12-19 16:17

      She learnt that from your other ANC buddies. (Malema, Shivambu etc.) Ha ha ha

      terry.burne - 2012-12-19 16:20

      Sadly mmudzielwana - it appears that you (and lots of your friends) are fools.

      helen.watermelon.16 - 2012-12-19 17:44

      mmud.... you are an idiot

      jerry.pres - 2012-12-19 19:52

      Sorry to say, but you are

      willem.louw.16 - 2012-12-19 20:15

      apparently you are

      Robert - 2012-12-20 13:06

      you are not WHAT???? EISH WENA.... My dogs non existant left testicle has more intelligence than all the ANC fools combined. I know some of these words are difficult but....if you need a dictionary...

  • francois.lacock - 2012-12-19 16:11

    Zille must learn to speak slowly and loud so that the illiterate Eastern Cape ANC members can follow what she has to say!

      hugh.olphart - 2012-12-20 14:12

      ramon, that still wont work cause they dont have any books...

  • wesselo1 - 2012-12-19 16:14

    Yes, and the eastern cape anc knows about drunken people

  • david.wolpert.39 - 2012-12-19 16:15

    Every time they open their mouths,ANC spokespersons reflect their intellectual bankruptcy.

  • chaze.damonze - 2012-12-19 16:22

    So you need to tell people it has no credibility instead of letting them decide for themselves. Face palm. Damn anc sheep are just gonna follow blindly... Its like experiencing the animal farm novel 1st hand...

  • ahmien.vanderwalt - 2012-12-19 16:27

    You the fool #idiot

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  • piero.mendace.5 - 2012-12-19 16:28

    Yes Charles and you are well versed in politics, which kind the racist, corrupt politics practised by your beloved ANC. Whether Z has or has not been tried in court the population has largely convicted him already. Just sometimes, facts speak for themselves.. Just another pot calling the kettle black comment.

  • byleveldt - 2012-12-19 16:28

    There are a very special place in hell for the ANC! Nick is waiting... Insult bullfrog Zuma and all hell turns on you, but they can through insults around like desert sand Bunch of bush apes

  • Paul - 2012-12-19 16:28

    Attention seeker

  • rowan.maulson - 2012-12-19 16:29

    Damn, the EC ANC are too funny. They should get their own comedy show.

  • aspruyt - 2012-12-19 16:29

    The words credibility and logic have never been associated with the ANCYL. They can't even get trolling right! What a tosser hahahahaha. Shame.

  • peter.jordaan.5 - 2012-12-19 16:40

    wonder why the storm is coming their way ??? the ANCestors are not happy ... it spells a bad omen for the ANC

  • piero.mendace.5 - 2012-12-19 16:41

    Which heroes, the ones that steal from the poor to line their own palms, never realise we had Robin Hoods in S.A. Sorry he stole from the poor.. Did the ANC heroes get it wrong again?

  • piero.mendace.5 - 2012-12-19 16:43

    Gumede, really and you and the rest of the ANC are not taken for a ride by Z... What's it like in Lala land?. Stop using the races card its old now, may you and the ANC one day face facts.

  • intenetdebris - 2012-12-19 16:50

    Although Zuma has never been convicted of corruption in court, doesn't mean he won't be in the future. ...And one can only hope.

      richard.hipkin - 2012-12-19 16:55

      He is already in violation of a Con court ruling.. this alone should tell people something, but the defenders will blindly roll around on the road protecting and looking like fools.

  • derek.bredenkamp.3 - 2012-12-19 16:51

    When is Helen going to see that the more she attacks the credibility of Zuma the more popular he becomes?

      richard.hipkin - 2012-12-19 16:54

      Have you ever asked the question why she never "attacked" Mbeki... maybe because he was never as corrupt, immoral and useless as Zuma?

  • musawakhe.ngubane - 2012-12-19 17:00

    Madam refugee: Do you have time for your man? What else do you do except making noise at Zuma? Tell your man to give you attention. We are tired of your evil, racist attacks.

      richard.hipkin - 2012-12-19 17:04

      You the only racist here...

      gawie.gatvol - 2012-12-20 07:56

      musawakhe, again with the empty as your iq remarks of racism attacks towards the double headed turkey, how can it be racism if its true but when the word thief or corrupt leaves her mouth then its rasict, pity you got a pass at school due to lowerd standerds

  • rob.bayliss.94 - 2012-12-19 17:17

    I am convinced that the reported statement is either an early April Fool's Day joke, or it was constructed by a severely mentally incapacitated person. It is certainly not OK to mock anyone who is suffering from any sort of mental incapacity...but surely the anc has the sense not to employ such unfortunate people in public positions. If I am wrong about his mental status then Mr Qoboshiyane needs to apply his mind to improving his abilities.

  • khanyisani.ndlovu - 2012-12-19 17:26

    I think its time Zille stop critisizing Zuma and form a very strong opposition to the ANC cause the more critism the more popular Zuma becomes. Strong opposition and great policies can build a better future for South Africa not a one party State rule.

  • Vuyi Kalipa - 2012-12-19 17:31

    mxm another 5 years in hell RSA will be DRC and maybe Durban will be New York wait and see

      chris.rama.18 - 2012-12-19 17:43

      go back to goma

      Themba Lukhele - 2012-12-19 18:53

      kalipa what de hell is that u r correct go to DRC its where u belong, ANC wil win n de Doom Afrikaners (DA) wil never even on a christmas day beat the peoples organization n u suck with your stupid comments, we never commented when u go to your congresses n stop commenting about our congress

      Gareth Deeble - 2012-12-20 10:12

      Themba you need to understand the drc is the same as south africa rich in minerals but greed has destroyed a lovely country (and yes ive been there) dont tell people to leave they could be a doctor for all you know at a hospital near you were your loved ones are being treated.Lets think before you comment

  • jabulile.mngomezulu.10 - 2012-12-19 17:54

    My vote will always go for the ANC it doesn't matter who leads the party,I live in a small town in Mpumalanga where there is still places where only whites are allowed to go in there and it's well known so DA can forget they'll get new memberships in my hometown.

  • piero.mendace.5 - 2012-12-19 17:56

    Chris, you are such a pig. If you have nothing intelligent to say - shut up!

  • piero.mendace.5 - 2012-12-19 17:58

    Khanyisani, true valid point. Without a strong opposition this is the type of government we will have.

  • sebastian.manka.7 - 2012-12-19 17:59

    This is all very amusing, it seems there are lot of folk on this thread who seem to be convinced that the ANC is imploding and that the DA has a chance at winning the next presidential election. If this is indeed the case why do all the DA supporters on this thread sound so worried, according to most of you the ANC will be weakened by a Zuma second term and thus pave a way for the DA to win!! I suspect that the majority of the DA supporters who posted a comment on this thread, know in there heart of hearts that as once predicted by Zuma, "The ANC will rule SA until Jesus comes back". DA supporters (White South Africans), are you so arrogant that you would insult a black majority and thereafter turnaround and ask that same majority to vote for a white imperialist party? This many years down the line you still suffer from entitlement? I would have thought by now you realized that we the black "foolish" majority stopped caring what a white minority thinks about us a long time ago. At first you were all going to leave when according to some of you the "terrorist" Nelson Mandela was elected president, well apparently most of you stayed, then you all promised to leave when the "racist" Thabo Mbeki was elected president well apparently that too failed to materialize, when Zuma was elected most of you said that the country would not survive two years with him as president, well it seems it did....It's really simple no one is buying your BS, so just accept that this is how democracy works, all SA citizens get to vote and then we tally the votes and then we must respect the results either way. When the results of the DA conference where reported, ANC supporters did not care to comment, I implore you DA supporters to have some dignity and self respect and stop trying to convince black people to vote for a white party, I never try convince white people to vote for the ANC!! And yes don't fool yourself in SA we vote based on race and nothing else, we don't trust whites it's that simple!!

      brenton.tyrrell - 2012-12-19 19:00

      Sebastian, the only real problem with democracy in Africa is that everyone over the age of 18 has the right to vote. Your brain dead comrades are copulating and producing more brain dead voters. And so the cycle continues... It really is a pity that Democracy doesn't have a minimum IQ requirement. The results would be a resounding turn-around and we will shoot right back into first world status...again. But, this is not to be and every goat herder will be showing support for their fellow goat herder with a painstakingly drawn X, thereby dooming the intelligentsia to 'dine with the swine' Sucks, doesn't it?

      Gareth Deeble - 2012-12-20 10:06

      And it is with that attitude south africa will never be a first world country,with our resources we should be a super power but alas south africans(black,white,indian and coloureds) all think that we are better than the person standing next to us.If we remove the chip on our shoulders life would be so much easier

  • piero.mendace.5 - 2012-12-19 18:01

    Jabulile, tell me are there not places in Mpumalanga only blacks go?. But you vote ANC..

      jabulile.mngomezulu.10 - 2012-12-20 02:22

      Only because whites won't come where we live,I've personally experienced racism and racial comments from white people,I work for a private company as a service agent,you still find white people who don't want to sit on the same chair as blacks,you'll service them standing with a smile on your face,where I live you still find medical practitioners where white are serviced before any other race and even worse there is different waiting rooms,they still call us you people,your gov,so I'm not gonna give them more power

  • Mfundo Thabo Radebe - 2012-12-19 18:15

    Why is everything racist?

  • piero.mendace.5 - 2012-12-19 18:20

    No, no Sebastian, what you are picking up is the lack of intelligence to know what is good for this country. Whether this government is good for the country or not is of little consequence. Eventually the masses will continue to believe lies and propaganda. Unfortunately majority will win even if t he choice is poor. The country has survived not due to the fantastic work of your beloved ANC, it survived barely and simply because the world needs our resources - don't be misled by what you think is a job well done. And by the way, the DA to the best of my knowledge has both black supporters and white supporters. Maybe the difference is that those defectors have seen the light.. Time will tell, arrogant are those who say rediculous things like the ANC will rule until... When the country is a banana republic like Zim, you can thank those you voted for as opposed to leaders with value and integrity. But you carry on voting for black because its black.. Ha, ha.

  • xolani.sulanimalghas - 2012-12-19 18:25

    It is very sad to know that people like you(mlibo)are so stupid that they don't even know their responsibility.Instead of addressing the issue factually,you chose to show the world how uncouth you are.I remember before the mangaung conference you compared Mr Mbeki with Vervoed that was stupid bro.and again you attack Zille without brining any fact forth. For your information the people are not stupid,they can differentiate between right and wrong.As a leader you need to tread carefully,we as a public don't your utterances against zille infact against anyone. It suprises me that everytime Zille sayz something she is labelled as a racist.must she shut up and let the ANC do as it pleases?hell no!to the ANC members,you need to imancipate yourselves from mental slavery non but yourselves can free your mind

  • piero.mendace.5 - 2012-12-19 18:27

    Typical Justin, you are completely blind. Do you when live here?. The only reason that all the claims are allegations is simply because unfortunately government is above the law. Your ANC cannot even hide their greed, it has nothing to do with black or white. Just because you are a racist does not mean everyone else is. The fact is we have no faith in your Z mainly due to the things he says openly indicating his thought process - this is what scares us. What is worse is that you and the rest of the blind followers think just like you.

  • piero.mendace.5 - 2012-12-19 18:38

    @ Xolani, valid point. As Khaniysani stated, without a strong opposition no political party will be on its toes and look after the people as they should. Its strange how everytime a racist thing is raised about Zille it seems that the very people that are raising the issue are racist. Maybe they need to take time and reflect on who they are, and why the vote black just because its black.. What logic is that?

  • graham.harrison.94801 - 2012-12-19 18:43

    Viva Anc Viva ANC viva corruption.....vivaANC viva corruption... viva ANC viva banana REpublic

  • graham.harrison.94801 - 2012-12-19 18:48

    W ANC now featuring planet of the apes ANC ..... welcome the Planet of the Apes

  • graham.harrison.94801 - 2012-12-19 18:50

    Viva Anc Viva ANC viva corruption.....vivaANC viva corruption... viva ANC viva banana REpublic

      sly.gooding.9 - 2012-12-20 00:34

      is ths the same zille who dance wth black people n cll them refugees hayi abodaki.

  • sabelo.mcondobi.7 - 2012-12-19 19:00

    Zille will never lead this country...l said so before Mangaung. Her statement are tantamount to a desperate individual seeking to mislead this country and its people. We remain stagnant in our belief that people who are not informed of how the anc is working will never understand how the anc is working. Zille is white and is a product of former white colonialists and oppressors.

      tersia.louw.12 - 2012-12-19 22:31

      You remain stagnant? You're joking, right?

  • bongani.blose - 2012-12-19 19:12

    Hellen Zille can't u please concentrate on DA

  • lex.holmes2 - 2012-12-19 19:38

    You have to brain dead to vote for Zuma and it is the ANC that has lost all credibility.

      solo.mathe.5 - 2012-12-20 11:10

      And you don't have a brain, period...

  • willem.louw.16 - 2012-12-19 20:18

    This idiot is quick to point out that Zuma has never been convicted, but not so quick to mention that the only reason is because Zuma has been avoiding justice by misusing his political power to side step a trial. Under his watch the country has suffered and worsened and any body who doesn't see that is wilfully ignorant which in my opinion is an affliction that should be punished. No one is as blind as he who doesn't want to see....

  • adri.conradie.96 - 2012-12-19 21:47

    I don't care if this is seen as being disrespectful,but the only reason "Pres Zuma" has not been convicted on any of the numerous charges against him yet, is the amazingly inventive ways of keeping him out of court despite his claims of being willing to prove his innocence in a court of law.With people like Qoboshiyane speaking on behalf of the ANC there is no need for anyone to say or do anything to harm the party.They are becoming quite proficient in doing it all by themselves.

  • joe.spirit - 2012-12-19 22:11

    Zille really has surrounded with these blacks who couldn't get into positions in other organissations thus settled for the DA nad got their 60 seconds of fame

  • bongani.nsele.58 - 2012-12-19 22:17

    i think nothing of this woman....let her people sing her they disappear in the horizon

      tersia.louw.12 - 2012-12-19 22:32

      You think nothing, full stop.

  • ron.samuels.129 - 2012-12-19 22:31

    I think we all agree that Mrs.Zille,should she ever be drunk,still makes more sense than Zuma and the ANC combined!

  • bongani.nsele.58 - 2012-12-19 22:34

    It seems our Honourable President is a sore thumb to self impossed race supremacy........ Long live ......... President Zuma, Hail in SA your Africa for Africans, who can touch you??????

      willem.louw.16 - 2012-12-21 19:51

      Perhaps it is prudent to point out that statistically support for the DA has steadily increased over the past couple of years. Like wise the support and favour of the ANC has diminished. Granted that the shifts in favour are not big enough to facilitate a major shift in power, yet... But people are already noticing the good work the DA does and compare it to their own shortcomings. Every small victory for the DA is a step in the right direction. They are holding the governing body of this country accountable for its mistakes and corruption and side stepping justice and fair transparent governance. I think the ANC is afraid and with good cause