Zuma: Second transition the only way

2012-06-24 22:49

Parys - South Africa needs a second transition otherwise it would remain stagnant like many other African countries after independence, ANC leader Jacob Zuma said on Sunday.

"We need a second transition, we cannot stay here," he told hundreds of party delegates at the Free State elective conference.

Zuma said many African countries never moved forward after independence.

"If we do not discuss the second transition I do not know how we would handle the problems we have now."

He said the ANC would always be a disciplined force biased to the poor and the working class.

Many of the country's programmes flowed from a negotiated settlement, which might be redundant.

The ANC leader said the second transition must come to address the legacies of apartheid.

The ANC must bring a difference to its people and the party does not have to be loved to do what it thinks was right.

"The time has come to do what we think is right to make the majority happy. The second transition is the right thing."


Zuma asked those who were against it what their alternative was.

The second transition related to a key discussion document for the ANC's national policy conference, which was expected to begin on Tuesday.

The Second Transition: Building a national democratic society and the balance of forces in 2012, suggests the ANC must now enter a second era of democracy.

According to the document, in the past 18 years the ANC has gone through a first transition into democracy, where it focused on political emancipation.

Now the party needs to introduce a 'second transition' that focused on the social and economic transformation of South Africa over the next 30 to 50 years.

In apparent reaction to doubts from senior ANC NEC members regarding the matter, Zuma said it was impossible for any NEC member to not know of the "second transition".

"It was not possible," he said.

He said the NEC discussed the document three times.

The ANC must also look at where it wanted to go.

Renewed ANC

"Mangaung must help to get a renewed ANC."

Zuma said a ten year programme to renew the ANC was necessary and needed to be approved.

"If we fail to deal with discipline, we fail the ANC," he said.

Zuma, who concentrated a lot on discipline in his speech, said no one should be allowed to erode the unity in the ANC.

Referring to recent happenings within the ruling party, Zuma said the Mangaung conference would take firm decisions on discipline.

He said those who were bending the ANC constitution for their own selfish aims must be dealt with and non-conforming ANC politicians would find it "cold out there", outside the ANC.

Zuma was in a happy mood at the Free State elective conference, where it was apparent he enjoyed huge support.

He ended his speech with: "I am happy, very happy to close the conference," with a big smile, before he led with two songs.

  • Staalburger - 2012-06-24 23:12

    What measures will be taken to ascertain what will make the majority happy? I would say water, housing, jobs etc. If you listen to the clueless ANCYL then it will be land, so that we could create a second Zimbabwe and have millions of 'happy' majorities dying of hunger.

      procold2 - 2012-06-25 09:19

      second transition meanig that all the corrupt minister must get their hands deeper in the cookie jar and bring the country to its knees.

      Greg - 2012-06-25 10:39

      History is all about decisions and percpetions. SA govt needs to make decisions to improve the lives of the poor and unemployed who form the majority. The status quo is a grave injustice. Pure capitalism just like pure communism does not work and creates these grave injustices. There needs to be balance. Who must make that decision and action it? A second transition is necessary from an African perspective and not a European / American / Western / Eastern perspective. SA needs to have it's own economic model based on our (African) value system. This shows the maturity and confidence of a govt and the poeple of the country especially when thinking outside the box. Zimbabwe, despite the fallout has shown that text book economics and placating foriegn interests is not in the best interests of an Afican economy stuck in the first transition i.e. political freedom only.

      schalk.mattheys - 2012-06-25 11:58

      As I read the above article I cant help myself ... "He said the ANC would always be a disciplined force biased to the poor and the working class"-- REALLY!? PROVE IT Jacob, what have you done for the poor working class in the last 18 years!? and then..."The time has come to do what we think is right to make the majority happy. The second transition is the right thing....Now the party needs to introduce a 'second transition' that focused on the social and economic transformation of South Africa over the next 30 to 50 years" God help us all. God help all our children who will have to live in the future that this thug and his gang have planned for us...

      schalk.mattheys - 2012-06-25 12:28

      Communism is not love. Communism is a hammer which we use to crush the enemy. ~Mao Tse-Tung A common danger tends to concord. Communism is the exploitation of the strong by the weak. In Communism, inequality comes from placing mediocrity on a level with excellence. ~Pierre-Joseph Proudhon

      Sharon - 2012-06-25 18:27

      they have come up with another catch phrase,the last one was kill the boer,well that got shot down by the courts,now the new one is second transition,it means the same as the first just phrased differently,the sheeple will fall for it and vote them in,the corruption and mismanagement will continue,the farm murders will continue and the poor will stay poor - wake up people,get these clowns out of power while there is still something left to save

      denise.ryan.5203 - 2012-06-25 23:37

      How did all of this happen? The one moment we were at loggerheads over apartheid, the next a gang of has-been communists & revolutionaries languishing in Cuba, Britain & former East European capitals were imported to come and rule us. In one of the most insane moments in history, the former NIS, amid pressure from Britain, decided to resuscitate the ANC from its near-death state and awaken its so-called leaders from their alcoholic torpor in Zambian camps or sleazy state-owned flats in Warsaw or East Berlin. At the time the FW & NP intelligence operators had decided to negotiate with, and, as it happened, hand over power on a plate to the most radical foreign exiles and puppets of the communist dictatorships in Eastern Europe, otherwise known as the ANC, who were nothing but a surrogate bunch of failed terrorists subsisting on the sympathy of the former communist regimes in the East. Today we are being fed the propaganda diet of a glorious liberation movement founded in 1912 that won victory in 1994 after years of so-called struggle. This is all historical fantasy, invented retroactively. The organisation founded in 1912 was called the 'South African Native National Congress' and had very little to do with the ANC of today, a new organisation that essentially came about in the early 1990s. The ANC is synonymous with outrage, either through its many half-truths and lies about SA history, or in its appointments of former terror operatives to high government posts.

      Susan - 2012-06-26 14:22

      Greg the only transition that is needed is transition from corruption to honesty, from anarcy to rule of law, from incompetence to efficienty. If only those principles were applied the country would be growing, employemnt would be available and we would all be free. What is brewing here is transiton from piece to war. You cannot take from the taxpayers what they have and give it to the beneficiaries - what will be left?

      boltonbarry - 2012-06-26 19:17

      South African "Spring" is in the air

      philip.harris.967 - 2012-06-27 04:43

      Staalburger the masses want LAND. They (the ANC led massses) want to turn back the clock to a Tribal Africa where millions scratch about on their land growing a few mealies , pumkins and chickens and goats scratch about. They want land ...and they will get land.

  • gee.raaf - 2012-06-24 23:13

    Second transition simply means bringing the country to its knees through better planned corruption and mismanagement.

      Press - 2012-06-25 01:49

      This second transition mantra means the ANC will no longer honour the agreement reached between black and white in 1994 - it is now truly onwards to a racist nationalistic black chronyist state based on Marxist principles. There is no other way to wind the clock further backwards for this country – or as disastrously. This is the true price that the country will pay for the corrupt tribalist Zuma regime. Thank you ANC.

      morama.sebata - 2012-06-25 07:31

      I wish second transition be the impelementation of freedom charter.

      tmnqayi - 2012-06-25 10:41

      The President is asking people like you gents, if you are opposed to the new transition what are your alternative, So plz stop cretinism and suggest way forward if you wish for better life for all.

      schalk.mattheys - 2012-06-25 12:04

      @tmnqayi You're deluded my friend, JZ is not asking anything, he has already stated clearly through his actions during his term in office what his plans are for the future of SA. My God have mercy on us all, if anyone thinks things are bad in SA now, I'm afraid, very afraid we have not seen the worst yet.

      denise.ryan.5203 - 2012-06-26 00:23

      The Second Transition proposal is nothing but a litmus test for loyalty. It is a mechanism for the identification of friends and foes by the ruling elite. Connected to this is a need for some of the players to have their "indiscretions" or unresolved "crimes" expunged. Zuma must make sure he stays in office to keep out of jail for his fraud and corruption case... the unresolved Arms Deal, Travelgate and Oilgate cases which just won’t go away. If the Zuma faction stays in power, it would make these irritations quietly disappear. The Second Transition is nothing but an agenda to gain or retain power... those who align themselves with the current political elite by showing support for the Second Transition, will be brought into the fold. Those who don't will be discarded. Ask Juju.

      Richard - 2012-06-26 19:57

      More pearls of wisdom from Alicia Myburgh of Somerset West. Please explain: When you say "many, especially his own people are already on their knees. It's faces in the faeces next." Who are you referring to when you say "faces in the faeces"? 1) He is the president of South Africa, so all of us, "his" people, black, white, coloured, indian? 2) "his people" referring to blacks?? 3) anc members? I am interested in understanding what happens in that empty head of yours when you post a comment...

  • jerry.medina.756 - 2012-06-24 23:16

    People of South Africa must wake up and get rid of all these political parties with historical luggage.

  • Henk - 2012-06-24 23:16


      schalk.mattheys - 2012-06-25 12:05

      definitely a la "Animal Farm"

  • gladstone.dyonase - 2012-06-24 23:28

    During your First transaction we lost jobs, we are starving to death as you, your family and NEC are very much corrupt. Eighteen years no books, I'm not talking about this free educations you'd always been promising us to no avail. Why are you doing this to us?

      Dee - 2012-06-24 23:59

      because we can. You voted for us and knew what we are about. Shut up and vote for us again

      Sharon - 2012-06-25 09:16

      because they love you gladstone ha ha ha ha

      infijar.ken - 2012-06-25 09:57

      Allowing the people to vote for their own constituency MP's who they will send to Parliament, an MP who will then be accountable to their electorate, will go a long way to ridding the country of this corruption and ineptitude. As long as a small clique select who the MP's will be, and then selecting a President, the country will remain undemocratic!

  • poosthuizen - 2012-06-24 23:29

    All i can think of of taking from white upgrade black man...why not empower black kids by making sure they have ALL the tools at school to get THE best education ever.....make them the leaders of the future..because they are!!!!They can bring sooo much prosperity to the country.!!!!DO not fo us on taking away from obe group to give away for free to another group..focus on ..the failure of delivering textbooks to young future leaders of South Africa!!

      poosthuizen - 2012-06-24 23:31

      Please mind my spelling..ipad and my eyes not a good combo!!

      Bless Boswell - 2012-06-24 23:44

      Not delivering books is a deliberate ploy to keep em stupid. The ANC would stand no chance of a win if this country's electorate was educated.

      Irene - 2012-06-24 23:59

      It's far easier to take than create.

      Johan - 2012-06-25 05:59

      @poosthuizen...My reply has nothing to do with the subject but just imagine if your name was Deon or Danie

      Johan - 2012-06-25 06:02

      @poosthuizen...I agree with what you say

      msalim002 - 2012-06-25 09:02

      Well Done , The first REAL thinker in here...I LIKE YOUR STATEMENT,IT CAN WORK.POOSTHUIZEN for PRESIDENT

  • mmredlana - 2012-06-24 23:30

    Second transition my big toe nail! But African National Corruption the first failed dismally.Blab blab blab yup yup and chow our money thats what you know!

  • Digger - 2012-06-24 23:35

    They can come up with whatever policy they want, but it will not change the fact that you will always have the majority of Africans poor. This is the same in every, EVERY country in Africa and it’s because the ‘majority’ of the population are unproductive, unmotivated, uneducated and unable to be individual creative thinkers. All the Africans that are productive and have what it takes to achieve, have achieved and are successful people, but unfortunately they are in minority group. So in short from a previous post I found: "You cannot bring about prosperity by discouraging thrift. You cannot help small men by tearing down big men. You cannot strengthen the weak by weakening the strong. You cannot lift the wage-earner by pulling down the wage-payer. You cannot help the poor man by destroying the rich. You cannot keep out of trouble by spending more than your income. You cannot further the brotherhood of man by inciting class hatred. You cannot establish security on borrowed money. You cannot build character and courage by taking away men's initiative and independence. You cannot help men permanently by doing for them what they could and should do for themselves." William Boetcker (1873-1962) German-born Presbyterian clergyman

      brett.rosenberg.75 - 2012-06-24 23:44

      You summed it up perfectly Digger and the truest of all you have said, is the bit about Africans that have made it to the top already. There will always be the have nots and haves in every society. No government will ever change the conditions of 50 Million people if they are not prepared to work.

      sisa.mtwana - 2012-06-25 10:37

      @Digger I like what you are saying ,But for me its a European way of looking at things .The European way is to always compete with one another .African way is. You can bring about prosperity by opening other avenues to jobs and that doesn't discourage thrift . You can help a small man by giving him tools and teaching him how to stand on two feet and when he can do that ,he is the Big man . You can strengthen the weak by looking after them until they are strong nothing to do with weakening the strong . You can lift the wage earner by demanding fer living wage(witch is paged at current interest rates)nothing to do with pulling down the wage payer. As an African it doesn't sit well being rich when your neaber is starving .Nothing to do with destroying the rich. Yes brother on the last-ones I'm with you on those.We don't need to compete we can all share .This country is big enough for all of us . Minority can not rule over Majority forever .I still think you have a point

      hennie.buys1 - 2012-06-25 12:08

      @sisa.mtwana: What I want to know is, What is the "African" system that we are aspiring to? because Communism, that is so espoused by many of our leaders was a European Idea. I would really like to know how such a system would compete in the world economy from which we cannot escape and how it will bring about a productive well educated middle class(which we need to compete). I also see a Huge love affair between our current leaders and the so called "western" capitalist system. - 2012-06-26 16:43

      love it ... really sums up what we have here now!!

  • patrick.hoppe.7543 - 2012-06-24 23:39

    Stagnation is the best we could hope for. Right now SA is going downhill very very fast. The 2nd transition is another way to say, we need to take more away from those who have (worked for it) and those who have not (worked for it)Read: Land grab.

      schalk.mattheys - 2012-06-25 12:35

      Communism possesses a language which every people can understand - its elements are hunger, envy, and death. ~Heinrich Heine

  • Sharon - 2012-06-24 23:41

    "He said the ANC would always be a disciplined force biased to the poor and the working class." That is the point where I stopped reading the article, because I know what follows is more lies and meaningless drivel.

      Digger - 2012-06-24 23:56

      Well he supports the "working class"....great because I don't know any farmer or "white imperial pigs" that don't work for what they have!!! And yes I know what's meant by working class....

  • Bless Boswell - 2012-06-24 23:52

    He looks like Malema when he waves his arms around like that.

  • rasthami.m1 - 2012-06-24 23:56

    1st transition ? When did it start and when did it end -under that so call 1st transition what where the goals and are this goals achieved...

      Dee - 2012-06-25 00:06

      to steal as much as we could, now we want the land.

      indianajohn - 2012-06-25 00:23

      The first transition never happened. In fact, we need a transition just to fix everything the ANC has broken before even talking about the first transition. SECOND transition? And the world laughs...

  • anneck.cranke - 2012-06-25 00:03

    This thick idiot has just made it clear he has caved into ANC youth league policy!

  • indianajohn - 2012-06-25 00:12

    What utter claptrap.

  • nazeer.vawda.5 - 2012-06-25 00:18

    does he mean land expropriation???

  • simphiwe.buthelezi.71 - 2012-06-25 00:20

    I hope this presents us with a possibility of a new beginning. Current policies have clearly not worked

      Sharon - 2012-06-25 09:21

      simphiwe,if you give someone a job and they continually screw it up,would you employ them to do your next job.if you do then you deserve to get shafted

  • shayne.welman - 2012-06-25 00:21

    Idiot This is one useless guy. Damn we can do better.

  • phumlanin3 - 2012-06-25 00:21

    I admit I used to be your porn ANC, but NOT ANYMORE, you embarrassed us to other nations, u betrayed your own people, you used and exploit the poor, you failed to unit us as one nation, you fail in every sphere

      Robin - 2012-06-25 06:22

      He said the ANC would always be a disciplined force biased to the poor and the working class.

  • msaka.lekhosi - 2012-06-25 00:29

    IF you tell us about Apartheid, then it is clear that you don't have any way forward.

      Ryno - 2012-06-25 08:09

      There we go!! Give this man a job in parliament!!

  • Steven - 2012-06-25 00:36

    You Sir, and your so called political party are the cause of all the cr&p in SA.You like to think you big and powerful when it comes to world economics but I am afraid to say SA is but a small dot on the map and most people in the Western world would not buy you a cup of tea for your struggles!!!!You cannot even supply a simple set of text books to your own kind and now you talking about a second transition.Why dont you and your ilk get back into your spaceship and f$$$off back to where you came from.!!

  • banks.motsoeneng - 2012-06-25 00:50

    I've alwys let people mke decisions 4 me by not votin n hell thse who hve cstd ther votes 4 ANC r doin a great job killin us. I'm currntly doin my third year in engineering n hve a job lined up 4 nxt year, however I'm not certain if things keep on like this I'll hve 1 stil waitn 4 me. I'm mkn a plea 2 all SA specially old people 2 c wat ANC is al abt. I say f***k em, come nxt electn I'll cast my vote 4 da write party. Like Obama said we nid CHANGE in bold.

      banks.motsoeneng - 2012-06-25 00:55

      I'll cast my vote 4 da right party. My bad

      Digger - 2012-06-25 01:45

      banks, you my friend are the minority of black SA's that actually use your own mind....well done and don't let anyone tell you different. You are correct, if the ANC continue like they are, they will bring the country down like Zim and people like you will not find work. All of SA, white and black will suffer. Keep studying hard my friend and good luck.

      jacqui.daanevanrensburg - 2012-06-25 11:45

      Banks, I get what you say. Hope you get permanent work soon. But can you do something about the English young brother?.

      banks.motsoeneng - 2012-06-25 19:02

      @Jacpui, thnx a million times boet. I try my best however its never enough.

  • Stewart Croucamp - 2012-06-25 00:56

    you want to start a second transition when the first clearly didn't work. Step off the gravy train and let those that Know, lead the country.

  • jones.mkandawire - 2012-06-25 01:19

    second transition it is so long encompasses upliftment of my brother on the farms,my mother,sister and aunt in the kitchens and my father,uncle and grand dad in the gardens. My little girl needs educational equipment in time and my sickly grand mom need better health care

      justin.hall.355138 - 2012-06-25 05:30

      Maybe u shouldn't think before having sex or use condom.

  • nightflight68 - 2012-06-25 01:35

    The second transition that is needed is a country that can educate its children and that does away with a line of leaders who are just queuing up to get their hands in the tax till. I would love to come back - but at the present rate the outlook looks dismal.

  • - 2012-06-25 01:39

    President Zuma is choosing his words very carefully.He is expressing indirectly that which the Ancyl is expressing directly.

      jacqui.daanevanrensburg - 2012-06-25 11:47

      Ditoare, it is what ever you want it to be.

  • ditoare.gypsy - 2012-06-25 01:40

    Is news24 got a platform to air your views or a stage to insult each other?

  • Richard - 2012-06-25 02:11

    Ah yes and in the back room I hear a little voice shouting..."agent" it will be total nationalization.

  • Pat - 2012-06-25 02:52

    jus a thought, those two anc kids that took ownership of those gold mines in the joburg area and ran them into the ground forcing closure, those two knobs will make more money from all the illegal miners they put down there!! shaft looks closed from the surface, but no 1 knows about the full illegal production system they got going on down there!! the black market is a booming market, tax free!!!

  • Hitro Dive - 2012-06-25 04:47

    Amandla! Awethu! great step Zuma! Its for the greater good of the majority nd as for the future of Mzansi Africa i see a great future ahead in this transition. S.A. Must take its new role we are Africans.Black.and beautiful And we shall conquer through this transition. Together as the majority we can truly do more!

      jacqui.daanevanrensburg - 2012-06-25 11:48

      Hitro, another speech by the empty headed.

  • Hitro Dive - 2012-06-25 04:49

    Viva ANC! Amandla! Awethu! A great step indeed Zuma!

  • Muffin_man_can - 2012-06-25 05:36

    The time has come for the opposition of all races to unite! The kind of radical anti democratic talk zuma is spewing here, once it is implemented will not only ruin our economy but also destroy the unity between the different races in our land. We need to take out those in power that support these ideas a.s.a.p before it is too late.

  • Phelamanga - 2012-06-25 05:50

    And so the dictatorship of the wealthy, corrupt and decadent minority elite manoeuvres itself into the total control of all levers of power. Instead of talking about transition and transformation in national terms, the ANC should go through these processes itself, rid itself of its communist baggage, pseudo-intellectuals and quasi-communists. Like charity, transformation begins in the home. South Africa can ill-afford, financially and in terms of human lives, to go through the type of transition that Zuma's puppet masters, the SACP, are proposing. The first casualty will be opposition parties. BTW, most of our neighbouring countries have also had a second transition, and that was to one party rule. Most of those have gone through a third transition - back to multi-party democracies. Let us skip the second transition or else the next leader of the ANC will be another Zuma and there are 21 (and counting) of them.

  • carlo.vos.7 - 2012-06-25 05:51

    Second Transition = Land Reform = Zimbabwe = Vat jou goed en trek Ferreira!

      Freddyvdm - 2012-06-25 11:21


      jacqui.daanevanrensburg - 2012-06-25 11:50

      Lukaas, my creator never commanded me to pray for the ridiculous.

  • lukaas.vanhout - 2012-06-25 05:53

    Ok I know we are all upset about many issues but Zuma is still the president and we are commanded by our creator to pray for our leaders not judge them. We need to be praying for his salvation not fueling the divide and widening the gulf. We can be hateful and be part of the problem or we can be the good Christians that we are commanded to be. I for one will pray for Zuma and anyone else that needs prayer. The least that I have is salvation and I would not wish Yahwehs judgement on any one! Pray for our leaders even the ones we may not like, it is our duty. It's easy to pray for people we like but what good is it if the only time we pray is for the things we want or the things we like. The real test and proof of our faith is praying in times of adversity and distress for those we may not like or agree with. Peace.

      carlo.vos.7 - 2012-06-25 06:28

      Lukaas is jy ernstig? Glo jy dat YHWH hom daar geplaas het om Sy wil uit te voer? Respekteer jou geloof maar my vriend Zuma is nie gestuur deur YHWH se hand nie. Vrede vir jou.

  • christopher.rimmer3 - 2012-06-25 05:59

    This all sounds like ANC speak for a Mugabe style land 're-distribution' plan of action. Haven't these knuckleheads learned anything from history?

  • tobydt - 2012-06-25 06:02

    No Jacob. The only other way is to get rid of corrupt and incompetent government officials. Making them pay back all the money they stole.

  • anneck.cranke - 2012-06-25 06:04

    People let's forgive our president... I have done extensive studied of his head, and found the back of his skull is made largely of a thick plate of bone at the back, with a very small cranial cavity at the front. Therefore indicating his brain could be no larger than a walnut or peach pip. Based on these findings we have to understand why he has such limited knowledge and use of speech. No kid could ever have made it through primary school with a head like that.

      ramohapelwa.berries - 2012-07-14 20:28

      @crankle, I archived this post to make own experiment. The results shocked me like I was snaked by a spear

  • simon.pearce.790 - 2012-06-25 06:09

    "If we do not discuss the second transition I do not know how we would handle the problems we have now." Pretty scary admission from JZ there!

  • Richard - 2012-06-25 06:15

    Since 1994, South African government has: Built 1.2 million homes. In 1994, two-thirds of South African households owned their own homes. Seven years later, this figure has risen to 77% Provided running water for 7 million people. Water is piped into 76% of households, compared to 68% in 1994 80% of South African households now have electricity in their homes. In 1994, this figure was only 58%. Real wages and productivity have increased by over 20% Spending on education has increased tremendously. In 1994, the government spent R31,8 billion and by 2000, this figure had risen to R51,1 billion. At 6% of the country’s GDP, the country’s investment in education rates among the highest in the world 23% of South Africans have matric, compared to 14% in 1994. Basic literacy is also up, from 87% to 92% Government’s deregulation of the airwaves increased number of radio stations, 90% of the rural population listens to the radio, compared to 79% in 1994. In 1994, 74% of all households had a monthly income of less that R2 499. Households earning a monthly income of R2 500 to R5 999 are up from 16% to 20%, and households that now have a monthly income of over R6 000 are up from 10% to 18%. Productivity - In the past 15 years, South Africans have become 50% more productive. In the same period, American productivity has improved by 30%. The pace of improvement in South African labour force productivity is among the four highest improvement rates globally

      jacqui.daanevanrensburg - 2012-06-25 11:52

      Richards, whose election pamphlet are you quoting?.

      schalk.mattheys - 2012-06-25 13:42

      Rich, since we're being selective... Since April 1994, the ANC has governed South Africa Below are some key indicators of change since they won power: Population: In 1994: 40.4m / In 2011: 50.6m Unemployment rate: In 1994: 26% per cent / In 2011: 48% HIV/Aids prevalence among 15-49 yr olds: In 1994: 2.5 % / In 2011: 21.6 per cent Life expectancy at birth: In 1996: 61.4 years / In 2011: 49.3 years Maternal mortality rate per 100,000 live births: In 1994: 150 / In 2011: 625 Murder rate per 100,000 people: In 1994: 31.9 / In 2011: 66.9 Transparency International Corruption Perceptions Index In 1994: - 21st best in the world / In 2011: 64th best in the world.

      Richard - 2012-06-25 14:24

      Schalk, you have good points, but the unemployment rate is high, but not 48%. I don't take a blanket approach to the ANC, government or SA. I evaluate government policies on a case by case basis. I support the ANC government conservative fiscal and SARS revenue collection approach along with the economic growth strategy based on infrastructure development and expanding the tax collection base. I support the inflation control, conservative monetary policies of the Reserve Bank, and measures like Affirmative action to redress the past (which you would like to forget), and broaden the pool of people who could benefit from the economy. I do not support the anti-freedom of information policies, the endemic corruption, the labour market inflexibility, elitist, and nationalist/centralist approaches in many cases. Here there is an attempt to move the country and the economy forward... I'm going to wait to see the details...

      schalk.mattheys - 2012-06-25 15:05

      Unemployment rate is a projection for 2011 figures based on stats collected over the last decade, according to an independent statistics report generated by a pretty reputable body, namely the CIA, google CIA fact files if you want to cross reference. As for AA and your assumption I would like to forget why its being implemented, I'll leave you to your assumption, as I don't have the time or inclination to give you a break down of my personal history and how AA in Africa has affected me, or all the other guys like me, or how its inevitably going to affect the majority of South African in the long run for that matter. But yes, I agree, whether or not this "will move the country forward" remains to be seen. I'm not holding my breath. I have seen enough in my lifetime to understand that nationalization and land reform in Africa translates into economic decay brought on by cronyism and corruption.

  • Lesiba C Mmotlana - 2012-06-25 06:16

    the first thing 2 b solved ,He must step down,Zuma is da problem to this country

  • lerato.kay.3 - 2012-06-25 06:21

    \The time has come to do what we think is right to make the majority happy. The second transition is the right thing.\ Well said Pres Zuma, we are waiting for economic transformation and you must see it through don't be apologetic about it, rule you got the majority support!

  • Tiaan Liebenberg - 2012-06-25 06:24

    More importantly - who is going to be the leader of this 'second transition' that had to be already 10 years ago? And, where to will this transition be, and at whose expense? Expense - not monetary, but socio-demographically

      Tiaan Liebenberg - 2012-06-25 06:31

      Because you, the ruling cANCer has seriously messed up. Time has come for you to acknowledge it. You were given a successful country and have brought it to its knees.

  • hilton.haley - 2012-06-25 06:25

    Well it was just a matter of time

  • Chumscrubber1 - 2012-06-25 06:29

    I hope part of this transition involves at least some focus on governance. The legacy of apartheid may be one thing, but the ANC has already created a poor legacy that needs fixing - in just 19 years. Failed policing, failed education, extremely poor race relations, failed land reform. The sewage in our rivers and litter on the sides of our roads is a legacy of the ANC. Please fix the mess you have so far made of a country that you took over, ANC. Please. And stop focussing on self enrichment and nothing else!!!!

  • sizwe.bwana - 2012-06-25 06:48

    When Bob started losing he did land grabs to stay in power. And the land he grabbed was for himself and his buddies. This is just deja vu !!!

      justin.hall.355138 - 2012-06-25 06:52

      Finally so there is hope! You admitting it now

      Tiaan Liebenberg - 2012-06-25 06:53

      One very likely direction this second wave of assault can take

  • Danwill Theys - 2012-06-25 06:49

    All good on words but never real.promises promises even the da wants to give youth free money.promises promises

  • vivian.harris.73 - 2012-06-25 06:55

    I'm sorry, but if the ANC didn't fill their pockets and focus on the people that need them, handle the wide spread corruption for the past 18 yrs...there wouldn't be a need for a 2nd transition.

      Bless Boswell - 2012-06-25 07:33

      There is not a need for a second transition - they are trying to plaster over the cracks - what we need is for the game oars to be swept clean and for the game to begin again There should be a referendum - do the people want the ANC? Or there should be a vote of no confidence in government. Zuma and his band of clowns must step down.

  • ptmakgato - 2012-06-25 07:01

    Huuu shame Mr Zuma u are so defuse and so on and on about ANC, still trying to win the votes by all talk n no action...shame on u

  • vusi.nhlabathi.31 - 2012-06-25 07:03

    “He said those who were bending the ANC constitution for their own selfish aims must be dealt with and non-conforming ANC politicians would find it \cold out there\, outside the ANC.” I am stating 2 like dis man u deserve a second term Mr president.

  • musawenkosi.mvubu - 2012-06-25 07:04

    Its a pitty the poor people who vote and put you in power get nothing at the end of the day, basic things like housing,electricity and water. Instead those who come to power help themselves and when found guilty they get fired and no criminal charges are layed, again another one gets deployed to the same position and the same happens. They call it operation dedela abanye. The day will come when the electorate will change.