Zuma advised me to retire, says Buthelezi

2013-02-21 22:31

Cape Town - Octogenarian IFP leader Mangosuthu Buthelezi interrupted President Jacob Zuma in the National Assembly on Thursday to reveal that the president had advised him it was time he retired.

"Some of your ministers... referred to the fact that - repeating almost what [you] said to me - you think I should retire because there are people who are saying... some things about me," he told Zuma.

His comment provoked shouts and laughter around the House.

Buthelezi, who turns 85 in August, rose to his feet after Zuma, who was delivering his response to debate on his State of the Nation address, referred to a letter sent him by the Inkatha Freedom Party leader.

Zuma said Buthelezi had "felt it necessary to raise the issue of the letter that you wrote to me after joining the opposition for a no-confidence debate".

Zuma said he did not want to respond to the letter.

"Let us not score points in a wrong way," he said.

This prompted Buthelezi to rise in his bench, and ask Speaker Max Sisulu if he could ask the president "two small questions".

After Zuma said he would take the questions, Buthelezi then told MPs that Cabinet ministers on Wednesday - and the president himself, presumably at an earlier meeting - had suggested it was time he retired.

Earlier, Zuma had poked fun at the coalition of opposition parties formed to bring a motion of no-confidence against him.

"Certainly, I have no difficulty if the opposition join hands. It defines a particular political landscape in one sense, if you all understand what democracy is. People have a free choice to choose partners, to choose those you can work with.

"It does also define that some people, as parties, have difficulties to have a distinct view on issues; they must hang on others... and be very proud... ," Zuma said, to shouts of delight, laughter and loud applause from government benches.

He described the coalition as "blurred, with no-one knowing which one is what".

Responding to an interjection from the opposition benches - "What about the SACP [SA Communist Party]?" - he said the tripartite alliance, which includes the SACP, was an "alliance in a different way", forged during the struggle, "so you can't compare it".

Parties were elected by voters on the basis of their programmes.

"[But] they [opposition parties in the coalition] abandon that, they campaign for other positions, advanced by other parties," Zuma said, to further loud applause.

  • Masia Masia - 2013-02-21 22:38

    I concur with Zuma. Gatsha must step down. It's leaders like him who drags the development of a political party down.

      franklyn.davies.1 - 2013-02-21 22:51

      leaders like Zuma ?

      derek.francois.3 - 2013-02-22 00:23

      A bit rich him asking if you know what democracy is.....................

      sponono.sangwana - 2013-02-22 00:43

      First ever thing that Zuma got right.....ever.

      john.cryink - 2013-02-22 07:11

      zooma must also retire

      Malizba Liz Mhlanga - 2013-02-22 07:23

      Att to all you Zuma haters the more you hate him is the more he becomes can't even see when he spoke sence you must learn to give credit when it is due

      nu_un_clear - 2013-02-22 07:47

      Zuma deserves NO credit whatsoever, as a matter of fact, he deserves a 6' by 9' cell with a big hairy white biker named butch as a cell partner.

      africa.favouiteson - 2013-02-22 07:54

      Charles Bronson; kindly share the list of the most let's say useless presidents from the most useless to the best in your opinion. Should I save you time cos you will say Zuma; Mbeki; Mandela; Montlanthe (yes he was caretake president); Botha and De Klerk (with these 2 being either or).... I really wish our children and their children and the rest of the generations to come can stand by OUR national anthem and united they stand.

      armand.horn.58 - 2013-02-22 08:00 seems you and your president speak the same type of sense.

  • mazterminda - 2013-02-21 23:15

    hahaha,hahahaha,haa!!! Zuma is funny

      mazterminda - 2013-02-21 23:16

      That really pissed off Buthelezi.

      squeegee.pilot - 2013-02-22 07:48

      Yes he is funny... in the head.

      africa.favouiteson - 2013-02-22 07:57

      Yes people of the lighter colour will like Mr Buthelezi. He never went on exile; and he was not prisoned at Robben Island. Why? He sold out. He must retire; nothing he says makes sense. Should be prosecuted for all the murders in KZN too

  • mantsho.tlali - 2013-02-21 23:23

    I dont understand why Zuma is so confident, He is acting untouchables like even if he is not doing what he is supposed to do nothing will happen to him, He is old and have no brain at all to govern the country, He should take a look at himself first.

  • wreford.white.9 - 2013-02-22 00:43

    It's also time that Zuma takes up Skydiving as a weekend recreation. Without a parachute!

  • john.tex.395 - 2013-02-22 00:56

    You go Bothalezy you Zulu guys must really f.>%# them up

      womba.wonder - 2013-02-22 03:29

      Zuma's a Zulu.

      Annelien Jones - 2013-02-22 05:46

      zuma is a bad zulu

  • ANASKA - 2013-02-22 01:21

    I had the honour of meeting Buthelezi in 1996 at the by-elections in Lyndhurst (the anc was slaughtered that day) - I have the highest respect for him and still do - Why in heavens name should Buthelezi retire Zuma?? He has reached the age of 85 years old AND more lucid than you

      Tlotlo Phele - 2013-02-22 05:09

      Politics aside , but Buthelezi has been president of IFP for 38 years , you vote him into power he won't step down

      Tlotlo Phele - 2013-02-22 05:09

      Politics aside , but Buthelezi has been president of IFP for 38 years , you vote him into power he won't step down

  • sue.viljoen.7 - 2013-02-22 03:30

    The first time ever I agree with Zuma!

  • andrew.mackie.90 - 2013-02-22 05:06

    Gatsha, Issue a challenge to Zuma to step down if you retire.

  • ron.samuels.129 - 2013-02-22 05:34

    Zuma should retire as well for very different reason,he and the ANC have nothing to contribute to this country!In 19 years you have done nothing and the state of the nation address is nothing but big words and plans but nothing will come of it.One thing you have managed to do year after year,you and your government have been stealing from the ppl of South Africa in bigger numbers every year!

  • andy.mathabela - 2013-02-22 06:30

    Hope Mr president will fill the same when it's your turn.

  • Colleen Erasmus - 2013-02-22 07:10

    JZ should retire and save himself from any further embarrassment!

  • T-bos Man - 2013-02-22 07:12

    Dr Buthelezi, tell me the difference between you and Mugabe, you both in your late 80's, been on the helm of power for decades , the list is endless and if Jacob had suggested you should retire, I do concur because you guys must be home relaxing watching news on t.v... Anc = Mandela, Mbeki, Kgalema and now Jacob. IFP = Bhuthelezi, buTHELEzi , BUTHEleziN tried to write it different but it is the same old you

  • arthur.salvado - 2013-02-22 07:48

    Blind leading the blind ? NOT. Fool leading all fools.

  • flynn.govender - 2013-02-22 08:05

    People should stay in politics only if they are willing to make a difference to SA. Is Buthulezi making a difference in KZN?

  • nazeem.dawood - 2013-02-22 08:23

    zuma you are only thinking about yourself what happen to for the people and by the people. you are corrupting the system of this country or shall i say crippling the system dont take this beautiful country down to the ground with you you rather step down and fall yourself . if you dont want to step down im cumin to take you on because mandela made this country and scrapt the apartheid system and you taking this country back to the apartheid error . you are the worst president in SA history it either you buck up or step down and let the right people run this country. im indian south african but my heart goes out to the south african blacks your own race your people who vote for you dont you have any class or dignity that you let them suffer. what you need torealise now its a RAINBOW NATION not the time of the natzi,s anymore so please do for the people of this country and not yourself.

  • NKAISANA - 2013-02-22 10:10


  • jacqui.daanevanrensburg - 2013-02-22 10:44

    Yes, and if Zuma will leave office and go fly a kite, we will all be happy.

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