Zuma encourages constructive criticism

2012-06-26 08:02

Johannesburg - South Africans need to constructively criticise the ANC's policy discussion documents, ANC president Jacob Zuma said on Monday.

"I get very happy when people criticise our policies because indeed they are participating in its development, in its evolution," he said.

"One of the critical points [we make] as we talk about policies is that we [the ANC] believe we are not wiser than anyone."

Zuma was talking at an ANC Progressive Business Forum Brics banquet ahead of the party's four-day policy conference in Midrand.

Wide range of views

He said the party considered a wide range of views, including business, when developing its policies.

"We now publish our documents for people to look at and comment and discuss and add views... I haven't seen any other organisation doing this," he said.

"It goes a long way to show the confidence the ANC has... That it believes people have a contribution to make. We have never deviated from that culture, we say: we are here... What are your views about South Africa?"

Even though the conference might adopt certain resolutions with regards to the documents, it would still consider "recommendations" before the policies were finalised at the ANC's elective conference in Mangaung at the end of the year, Zuma said.

"We will open ourselves, so that you know what is the thinking of the ANC when this conference comes to an end. But you still have an opportunity to intervene whether you think it is necessary to intervene," he said.

"Participate in the evolution of the policies that will guide this country."

Robust debate

Earlier ANC secretary general Gwede Mantashe said the party was confident its policy conference would produce "outstanding" outcomes.

"There have been very robust debates within our branches, regions, provinces [and] alliance structures, and [among] the public, on the policy," he told reporters in Johannesburg.

He said robust debate among some 3 500 delegates was to be expected.

"This is a source of excitement. The fact that people have expressed different views is indication that there will be robust debate."

The four-day policy conference is set to start at Gallagher Estate in Midrand, Johannesburg, on Tuesday.

The delegates consisted of branch delegates, national executive committee members, the ANC leagues, its alliance partners, deployees and business representatives.

The Brics economic grouping - Brazil, Russia, India, China and South Africa - accounts for more than 40% of the world gross domestic product.

  • gavin.lott.9 - 2012-06-26 08:10

    Sounds to me that you don't have a clue! - 2012-06-26 08:24

      I think they've already made up their minds that the "outstanding outcomes" will only benefit the ANC elite.Any criticism will fall on deaf ears.

      christelle.james.7 - 2012-06-26 08:35

      "We now publish our documents for people to look at and comment and discuss and add views... I haven't seen any other organisation doing this," he said. And we know what the documents say and what you do are two very different things. And you clearly indicated that your policies will be to benefit the majority.

      spartanx93 - 2012-06-26 08:46

      zooooooma.... can you even spell constructive???

      christelle.james.7 - 2012-06-26 08:57

      Sorry, have to bring an irony in here - on the side the have your daily horoscope and it is now the zodiac period of the cANCer. their suggestion for them for the day: Today, you need to try to be logical and rational about managing your finances. It is an idea to haul out that budget and to update items to see where and what you are spending your money on. LOL - I found it very funny, appropriate under ironic circumstances.

      nigel.burgess.52 - 2012-06-26 09:02

      Yeah sure - like you've ever listened to us before. What Zuma says in this statement and what the ANC do are two different things. I have no faith left at all in the ANC. They have progressively destroyed every bit of optimism I once had for this country.

      ianon.ym - 2012-06-26 09:04

      LOL - What use is constructive criticism when you the ANC ignore it in any event.

      fussed.anderson - 2012-06-26 09:17

      Well get the DA to do it

      Charles-Bronson - 2012-06-26 09:22

      Go for it Mr Corrupted useless President!!

  • TheVern69 - 2012-06-26 08:16

    Doubt you will listen honourable Zums ppfftt

  • ben.bezuidenhout3 - 2012-06-26 08:16

    Do you know what Constructive means JZ?

      martha.stclair - 2012-06-26 08:43

      Everybody is allowed an opinion.... As long as they agree with mine!

      Michaele - 2012-06-26 09:27

      Ofcourse Zuma knows what constructive is [well parts of the word at least]-----"construct" new houses for his new wives, "con" people into believing the ANC will provide services to the poor, "ive" got it all and want more.....

      oomkrummel.krummel - 2012-06-26 14:28

      Well it all sounds very fair and rosy on the surface, but if I stood up and said..”WHAT ABOUT DROPPING YOUR RASCIST POLICY OF BEE AND AFFIRMITIVE ACTION” you think I will make it out alive...???? Nooooo , it’s not that kind of fair nor constructive silly, it’s the other kind of constructive....!!!

  • tumelo.mabua - 2012-06-26 08:19

    Of course anyone can critisize but then they'll go ahead and do whatever they had planned anyway!

  • allen.bullard.9 - 2012-06-26 08:20

    Where do we begin?

  • frans.vanderpoll - 2012-06-26 08:20

    'The Spear' was constructive criticism and he did not appreciate it.

  • Michael Varikas - 2012-06-26 08:20

    Your a prick

  • Ben Nel - 2012-06-26 08:20

    Dear Mr Zuma. With all due and constructive respect: a fish rots from the head. You are the main cause of the rot and decay. You are corrupt, both financially and morally. You are a populist who will abuse the trust of the ignorant to stay in power. The aim of this power is ego, wealth and targets for the spear. The most constructive act from your side would be to grow a conscience, apologies for the damage you have created and to leave this country. With all due respect.

  • Gerald Jordaan - 2012-06-26 08:20

    Then why did you get rid of Malema ? everything he said of you was constructive and true !! You speak with forked tongue..ALWAYS !!

  • E=MC2 - 2012-06-26 08:21

    "we [the ANC] believe we are not wiser than anyone."... well that kinda goes without saying. Fact is, although the majority dont (for good reason) think they're wiser than anyone, doesnt stop them from abusing their power of numbers... Its sad that many fools have their say over a wise few.

      Ben - 2012-06-26 09:14

      Chadjason, honest mistake. He left out the D.

  • chadjason.wilson - 2012-06-26 08:24

    Perhaps Zuma has got evolution and devolution mixed up... please refer below to references..... Free Dictionary ev·o·lu·tion (v-lshn, v-) n. 1. A gradual process in which something changes into a different and usually more complex or better form. See Synonyms at development. 2. a. The process of developing. b. Gradual development. Wikipedia Devolution, de-evolution, or backward evolution is the notion that a species can change into a more "primitive" form over time.

  • Brad - 2012-06-26 08:25

    Its times like this when they come up with thier bright ideas which inevitably will fail because of a deep imbedded culture of self enrichment and corruption. If the anc can tackle those two MAJOR issues in goverment, I believe that many issues we face today such as inequality, unemployment, education, social development, crime, health, lack of service delivery will be easier to manage.

  • Justin.D.Glenn - 2012-06-26 08:28

    As long as they don't criticise Zuma or else he will take them to court.

      zukile.marcus - 2012-06-26 09:54

      To court Justin?...Not a chance they may win there take them to the NDC and get them fired...end of story

  • Henk - 2012-06-26 08:35

    You could not handle a painting!!!

  • Steve - 2012-06-26 08:40

    Constructive criticism, lively debate? One can only imagine what will happen to any cANCer delegate who has the audacity to disagree with the document. They are avoiding the very real issues that should be uppermost in "applying their collective minds." Could this degenerate into another chaotic chair-throwing exercise that has become popular at cANCer meetings. We wait with bated breath.

  • wbroli - 2012-06-26 08:45

    I came accross this blog, some scary sh1t

      christelle.james.7 - 2012-06-26 08:52

      I just read this blog - the real scary part is that it is REAL and TRUE. Not the figment of somebody's imagination or an ascewed perception. And that is just a short list of libraries full of similar stories.

  • Pat - 2012-06-26 08:45

    wot's the use, u dont listen to the constructive criticism!! in fact u just dont listen at all!!! in the 1 ear out the other, nothing inbetween to catch the words!!!

  • andrew.mckenzie.566 - 2012-06-26 08:48

    Always talk a much better game than they play.

  • Jacques - 2012-06-26 09:01

    Here goes my constructive criticism. STOP. Stop doing what you are doing. Stop breaking the laws. Stop trying to change the laws that make it harder for you to break the laws. Stop breaking down our education system so that your voterbase remains uneducated. Stop playing the race card, it only serves as further polarisation of South Africa. Stop trying to make me feel ashamed of the colour of my skin. Stop taking bribes from people who want tenders but cant do the job, there are plenty who will bribe you WHO CAN DELIVER. Stop with policies that makes it harder for foreign investment in this country, with Eurozone debt crisis, investers are looking for more sure places to invest, if only they were looking this way. Stop throwing parties with my tax money. Stop spending my tax money on useless crap and buy the necesary hospital equipment, firefighting and emergency equipment, develop roads, infrastructure and schools. Stop apointing idiots to positions they cannot competently occupy, instead there have to be more gems such as the Public Protector, my hero, Thuli. Stop trying to cover up coruption, but root it out like the cancer it is, for it kills people due to lack of services they need to SURVIVE. I get that the ANC is a large body comprised of three, a Democratic Party, a Socialist party and a Labour Group, which are three woefully conlicting of interests in a single alliance, but you should stop letting that affect whats best for everyone. Till then, no proposal can help.

      oomkrummel.krummel - 2012-06-26 14:48

      If they read this, they will think you'r mad...sad hey..!

  • Bois-Tête - 2012-06-26 09:03

    One bag of mieliemeal, one yellow t-shirt and one word of useless criticism. You see, the ANC is a good party so please vote for us again next time and thank you.

  • Cassandra Eileen Olivier - 2012-06-26 09:04

    Step down as president so we don't have to pay for all you wives and bring back the death penalty.

      gavin.lott.9 - 2012-06-26 09:40

      Will not matter. Presidents in office or not still get paid till they die!

  • anneck.cranke - 2012-06-26 09:07

    Here's some constructive criticism, Jacob. You are a thick, brainless, racist idiot! Now go take a shower!

      oomkrummel.krummel - 2012-06-26 14:51

      And drop BEE

  • cynthia.d.plessis - 2012-06-26 09:10

    Bwhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha *takes breath* hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

  • winifred.watson.9 - 2012-06-26 09:13

    They are only topping up the gravy train, thats all, and covering their backsides for the future. How can they set policies up for the next 3 to 5 decades, a lot can happen in that time and do they believe they have physic powers to do this. While they are debating all this, can they also discuss something constructive for the poor pensioners. How about 50% off electricity, 50% off medical aid and 25% off everything else, that would be a help. Maybe it might even get you a few extra votes. Other countries look after the pensioners, here when you have finished taxing the life out of them you leave them for dead. Instead of giving grants, why dont to give out food parcels and a work for food scheme. A lot of these people who get numerous grants for their huge family dont want to work prefer to sit at home be lazy. Even my domestic worker was shocked when she tried to get an extra worker to help out for few days, people not interested, happy to stay at home.

  • Gavin - 2012-06-26 09:17

    Every now and again you make sense, then you go and do stupid things like free 40,000 prisoners or appoint a cowboy as chief of police. Seems to me that the ANC has lost what little direction and sense it started off with. I think you need to gut the organisation and bring in new (honest) blood. This will allow you to evolve more rapidly into the kind of organisation that will not only survive, but help SA become the African continents powerhouse and not the circus you have have made us into. You need to prove to me that you're still about change for the benefit of the people and not the enrichment of your cronies.

      oomkrummel.krummel - 2012-06-26 14:50

      And drop BEE

  • maokeng.mankge - 2012-06-26 09:20

    Stop buying ppl 2 vote 4 ur stupid leadership.Give d educated politician an opportunity 2 bring bck d state of economy..Petrol increased dramatically since u wr a President without knowledge.Mbeki ws beta dan u.Now discuss real things of d country dan ur stupid policy

  • Andre Lombard - 2012-06-26 09:31

    Encourage public participation? When the media are banned from the discussions.

  • lerato.kay.3 - 2012-06-26 09:32

    Zuma is got a point SA will be better if there is constructive debate, some comments I see makes me wonder what’s in stock for the next generation. Why just insult Zuma without offering an alternative? The problem with our opposition is that they are the masters of criticising and picking the bad ANC does without offering us an alternative. I have just been to DA website; you can’t really see their policies one thing that stands out is “make a donation”. How can I make a donation if I don’t know your policies? ANC has its fair share of good things, for example globally most countries are in the red experiencing recession including US, Uk but SA is experiencing economic growth. I think we have to build on such positives while at the same time dealing with negatives like crime. In social housing and the development of poor communities ANC have tried but more still needs to be done.

      maokeng.mankge - 2012-06-26 11:58

      Ooooh pls since whn is Zuma on point.. - 2012-06-26 13:03

      Lerato, our opposition are NOT the masters of criticizing,they have actually got the Western Cape working and a lot of working class citizens are happy about that. Don't believe what you read or are told by ANY politician, believe only what you can see them doing. In social housing and education, it is clear that the ANC have failed dismally. Our financial fundamentals are good, but fortunately our economy isn't run by politicians, it is run by businessmen. The ANC cannot take credit for that - the only increase they're responsible for is in the level of corruption. I pray that our voters will use their heads and not their hearts at the next election.

  • seeni.moodley - 2012-06-26 09:44

    Lerato.Kay.3 , you make a lot of sense. Thank you. Even if you don't vote for the ANC or dislike the majority, you are still South African and want a better life for your children. So try to make a contribution instead of silly comments. My children are shocked at how stupid some of your comments are. Grow up please

      maokeng.mankge - 2012-06-26 11:22

      Myb she ws one Zumas camp

  • Sagin - 2012-06-26 10:53

    Ban the youth league and disband the anc. bring in a new government that is competent and wants what is best for south africa. Constructive enough?

  • Freddyvdm - 2012-06-26 11:38

    Constructive?....uuuhhh ,eish construction he...? eish ooo ok i be constructive ,eee you as Dumb as a Brick .yebo

  • maokeng.mankge - 2012-06-26 11:49

    Enuf of 2lkng spear all w want is 2 c our tax dng d best nt dis conference,galler dinners n useless trips.W want u out JZ..U want 2 turn dis country 2 Nkandla

  • - 2012-06-26 12:53

    Mr Zuma, I have been around long enough to recognize someone who is being patronizing (no, that doesn't mean sponsoring the ANC Gallagher Estate jamboree). Nowhere in any of your quoted words do I see that you will do anything about what we say as a people. You welcome comment, you want us to feel we are participating, you want robust debate, but you don't say a word about DOING anything about what we say. You say that the ANC 'is not wiser than anyone',I say you'll only become wiser by LEARNING from others. Try it, you might like it........

  • devenjoey.theron - 2012-06-26 14:41

    There was a stage that whites didn't wanted to believe that the ANC can make it. We never given you a chance. Then there was the stage, that we thought we can do it together! But you"ANC", had not kept your promise. Whites feel alienated. You had used us to better your situation. Rather set us free from your "one sided democratic land-grab" yes, you use people. you cannot control the assets of this land. the poor that you"ANC" had created through your corrupt dealings, had broken our "trust in each other" I cannot believe that you fall victim to the youth. should the ANC not inspire the youth, give them hope, lead them to compete with global standards. Create a proud people, for all its precious people? you give us a democracy of hatred! What is this!??? We have to find little fragments of hope in what is left. The "New" generation that need to take us forward, is without hope. Step down man! you took it on yourself to lead my White people, too make us one! But you brought us to the table of divorce! Let us deal with the fragments. Let us alone to protect our families that is MURDERED by your doing. open this cage, so we can fly to freedom. Away from your troubles you brought unto all of us. I cannot even look at you, so very, very disappointed i am. The positive side is that there is an opposition that will take you on, and they will try to build our youth again. You cannot destroy that which will be left after you had your way. the sun go down...

  • stephen.j.dickson.3 - 2012-06-27 07:49

    Constructive Criticism = Destructive Policies by the ANC.....................bottom line.

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