Zuma gives little hope on crime - union

2011-02-10 22:51

Cape Town - President Jacob Zuma's State of the Nation address on Thursday has given South Africans "little hope" in the fight against crime, a Solidarity leader whose uncle was murdered this week said on Thursday.

"One of the burning issues of the country is crime and again as in the past this was a huge disappointment," said the union's deputy general secretary Dirk Hermann, whose uncle Frik Hermann was found dead at his farm near Alma in Limpopo on Tuesday.

"There was nothing in the speech to give South Africans hope in the fight against crime."

Hermann wrote an emotional letter to President Jacob Zuma on Wednesday pleading with the government to turn their intentions on fighting crime into action.

He appealed to Zuma to recognise the pain and suffering of those who lost loved ones to crime in his State of the Nation address on Thursday.

Well balanced

"I am appealing to you to communicate to us the government's serious intention about crime. I am appealing to you to turn intentions into action," the letter read.

"Violent crime is something all South Africans can mobilise against.

Overall however, Hermann welcomed the speech, calling it "bakgat".

"Bakgat, that's the word I'd choose," Hermann said.

"I think it was a good speech. It was well balanced and comprehensive."

Hermann said Zuma had defined the role of the government as an "enabler" in job creation.

"He emphasised that we need to create infrastructure for the private sector to create jobs."

One factor that worried Hermann was Zuma's failure to emphasise the importance of training.

"First is there far too little emphasis on training and development, that is key for job growth," he said.

Decent work

Congress of SA Trade Unions spokesperson Patrick Craven said the federation "broadly welcomed" the speech.

"Obviously we need to find out who will receive money to make sure it is used for job creation," he said.

Federation of Unions of South Africa general secretary Dennis George welcomed Zuma's declaration of 2011 a year of job creation.

"President Zuma has emphasised that decent work is at the centre of our economic policy," he said.

"We want to create that motivation and enthusiasm for creating jobs like we had in the 2010 World Cup.

"We need to see further announcements and proposals in the next week and a half."

George said it was "vital" to align fiscal and monetary policies to ensure a conducive environment for "massive employment creation".

He praised Zuma for announcing the establishment of a R9bn jobs fund and for setting aside R10bn for the Industrial Development Corporation in the next five years.

The R20bn in tax breaks that Zuma announced would also stimulate job creation.

  • morne.naude - 2011-02-11 00:14

    He is a criminal himself!

      bokfan1 - 2011-02-11 07:15

      and this zuma idiot blames it all on apartheid - 17 years later!!!! What a prize prick!!

      Homer - 2011-02-11 09:36

      he is not aware of any crime just like Mbeki did not believe AIDS existed. he is surrounded by several body guards so why should he care.

  • morne.naude - 2011-02-11 00:16

    Naturally, reduce taxes, steal the gold.

  • Matt - 2011-02-11 02:05

    I cant think of one good African leader other than Mandela. All these "leaders" just speak their minds with no regard for public perception, economics or investment confidence. They just plain stupid!

      ArtGee - 2011-02-11 05:47

      Mega... which planet are you from?? Africa only breeds DESPOTS and BIGGOTS!

      BigD - 2011-02-11 06:26

      @mega. Name one

      mollma - 2011-02-11 06:42

      Good african leaders can not always spoon feed you with tact and promises. One day or another , sooner or later you are suppose to grow up Matt.

      megaquadrillionaire - 2011-02-11 06:55

      Festus Mogae, former president of Botswana. John Kuffour, former president of Ghana. Kofi Annan, Former UN secretary general. Boutras Boutras Ghali, former UN secretary general. I could go on and on, but I don't expect SA whites to actually look beyond the depots to the positives on the continent. REMOVE THE BLINKERS

      Weezychest - 2011-02-11 07:06

      Ja Mega, and its surprising that thos country's are still 3rd world and live in poverty, and alot of the own are living here in Sa looking for work. Rather keep quite as we do know what we are talking about. You need to open your eyes

      Alwyn - 2011-02-11 07:12

      Amin,Bocassa,Mugabe,Samora,Zuma ,Amin and Bocassa ate theis opposition,Mugabe dictated his country to an all time low,Samora instrumented a 20 year civil war,Zuma take showers after sex with HIV pos woman and make stupid statements,,,They are wonderfull Leaders,,,

      30.0kwes - 2011-02-11 07:55

      The last good president was Paul Kruger!

      Dewet - 2011-02-11 08:03

      There have been some good african leaders, but currently our country needs one. I was hoping cope would challenge the ANC into being more productive, but it seems a lost hope.

      HAYIKE - 2011-02-11 08:19

      Matt u such an idiot, Mandela is not the only good leader.

      Kenko - 2011-02-11 08:37

      Mega, anyone who can whip up the masses is considered a good leader. I mean, he leads, others follow. Those are a dime a dozen, and even the idiot Malema is one. What Matt means is the absence of good leaders who can make good decisions. The GOOD DECISIONS is at the crux of the matter.

      OTR - 2011-02-11 08:52

      @Weezychest: remember, some African countries started from nothing and are trying to build themselves. Preidents like Hefekepunye Pohamba of Namaibia, Former President Mogae of Botswana, Joachim Chisano of Mozambique, and the President of Mauritius are some of those that one can say are/were "good" if not execllent. The fact that they are still 3rd world is simply because they started from nothing, but by the time they are 100+ years like all the other countries that you are comparing them with (including SA) they will be developed too. Remember, income per capita in all these coutries, except for Mozambique is higher than that of SA.

      lean - 2011-02-11 09:42

      OTR what do you mean nothing? What did Europeans, Americans, SA Boors started with? It's not like Namibians and Mozambicans was born yesterday...Look at European/ American Weather condition, Africa is a paradise compare to them, but African countries are living in sh**t, and apparently only starting to develop in 2011...Logic bomb)))

      Weezychest - 2011-02-11 11:24

      OTR- I respect your comments but like Lean just said. How did those countries start off. Europeans developed the coutrie into what they are today. How far do you think would have gotten , if it wasnt for Europeans. So maybe some are doing alright jobs ( and i refer to Namibia), but the rest have just stayed in Neutral and are struggling to find first gear. Thats the facts and thats why we and the rest of Africa are 3rd world. Should there continue to black presidents , we will always remain 3rd world

  • Zion - 2011-02-11 06:46

    It was rather sad but amusing at the same time when Zuma praised what had been done in the years since apartheid. In fact the infrastructure made a move in reverse. The amusing part, which was predicted, is the statement that South Africa cannot have done better because the apartheid regime ended only 17years ago. Here is a clear indication that Apartheid is still blamed on todays woes and apartheid has become a crutch to support the failing ANC Government. Last time it was 5 million jobs of which few materialised: What guarantee does the SA public have that these "new" jobs will materialise. Here we have a wolf in sheeps clothing with a bark worse than its bite. Now we can re-predict the future.

      63Starlight - 2011-02-11 08:22

      Siener van Rensburg......

      Kenko - 2011-02-11 08:39

      In a 100, 200 years it will still be apartheid's fault.

      BigAl - 2011-02-11 10:45

      well said Zion - Zim has had 30 years so we have a long way to go yet. I once see a documentary on the Pan troglodytes which had learned to dig out insects from a hole in a tree with a twig – so don’t give up hope learning takes centuries for these kink of creatures.

  • goyougoodthing - 2011-02-11 06:59

    Zuma should be in jail, along with 90 percent of his cabinet. And the worst of it it, he may be a crook, but he's probably the best of a very bad lot.

      Singo - 2011-02-11 08:05

      you will go there first then he will follow.

      lean - 2011-02-11 09:50

      Singo if he is not going to be punished on Earth, he will be punished else where and else how... Did you notice how yellow the guy Look's, He is 98,9% have AIDS, HIV positive or have liver disease... So do not steal, rape, cheat and so on...cos you are going to be punished somehow... Live a dissent life and try to be a good person!!!

      2c - 2011-02-11 13:04

      Karma is a bitch!

  • Alwyn - 2011-02-11 07:06

    And the Famous "Blame it on Apartheid "was also part of the state of the nation adress, Apartheid was to blame for poor service delivery,,,KEY positions filled by idiots should be blamed ,and corruption of course

      63Starlight - 2011-02-11 08:24

      It is merely a way for the ANC to remind the majority to vote ANC. Keep the fire of hatred burning bright and strong.

  • 1gascan - 2011-02-11 07:13

    Blah blah blah - sounds like our annual meeting we have at the office! Same sh#t different day! Its all just words and empty promises! We have all been burnt one too many times by this government!

  • coolwaynie - 2011-02-11 07:14

    Of total and complete importance for the Regime is to eventually nationalise the mineral wealth of the country, thus creating black billionaires. The nationalisation of mines will be the start of a whole new elite society like ZANU PF....from there it will be mass takeovers of rich white farms. Anarchy!

      wattalotokak - 2011-02-11 07:33

      Yeah when he was giving examples about great examples of successful job creation: he should have mentioned Aurora BWAHAHAHAHAHA! I thought it was absolutely classic when he mentioned that some parts of the country are poorly run where it comes to service-delivery and then he said some parts are VERY well managed : someone shouted "Like Cape Town" Even he was laughing - I thought it was hillarious...!

  • JuluisMalema - 2011-02-11 07:32

    So then but now infact especially you e-e see the crime and curruption she is no problem in South Africa. You all make it worse than it really is. You see the thing is lets start from the begining, Brett Keble was killed in a car accedent, e-e Jackie Celebi did not take any bribe money from Glen Aglytoti, e-e in South Africa the are absolutly no corrupt police officers or police officers that kill other people the police force are the best and honest. Jacob Zuma never raped anyone, e-e the lady she jumped in tobed naked wat was he to do, he is a man of action putting happyness to the body, and afterwards wash off the stinky sweaty resadue that play time left in the shower. Eugene Tereblance died of a heart attack, yes his heart attacked him and not two pigmentally challenged, IQ robbed, porridge driven bleck gardening technitions as was speculated. And the french couple e-e-e really killed them selfs. And that R100m 42c the whole amount e-e was used for that youth fest, no money ended up in our leaders pocket really. And that R20.2-billion e-e-e was really used to build all the 2010 soccer stadiums, not one parliament minister or anyone else infact took R1 or a cent of that money really. And ther is no more farm murders in South Africa, we thank every South African for controbuting e-e-e to this, I know it was a problem a few years back, but no more farm murders. And there is absolutly no rape cases, armed robbery's and murder in SA. Goverment must think we are stupid..

      JuluisMalema - 2011-02-11 07:55

      Eish I clearly forget to mention, that the e-e-e-e R800million will really be given to flood victims, us bleck leaders will really not take a cent of the money really you have to believe me. This Goverment really does think we are stupid and that they can bullsh(t us, but you see you can not bullshi(t a bullsh(tter.

  • Ni-hao - 2011-02-11 07:35

    You get what you voted for and that is that.

      JuluisMalema - 2011-02-11 08:02

      I did not vote for this bleck pigmentally ill, IQ robbed, poridge driven gardening technitions. They are useless, corrupt people, and by corruption also they win all the elections. I vote for the right party, that will protect and prevent.

      2c - 2011-02-11 13:06

      Giggle, giggle.

  • Peter - 2011-02-11 07:38

    I suppose that if a criminal mind got you what you wanted way back when, you cannot change your mindset to address reversing what you worked so hard to create in the first place.

  • mullervince - 2011-02-11 07:52

    As long as this country's leaders are corrupt, uneducated and dishonest, things will not change. People follow their leaders and that is why crime is our country's downfall, as it is with our government.

      TheNewSA - 2011-02-11 08:52

      That is why I'm beginning to think the ANC is keeping education crippled on purpose. The less educated people are, the easier it will be to vote for ANC when the free chicken and T-shirt comes around.

  • lldoidge - 2011-02-11 08:02

    He will never fight crime seriously as that would opnen the floodgates for him and his lackays to be investigated. Bunch of criminals the lot of them.

  • ji - 2011-02-11 08:12

    zuma and the ANC cant stop the crime as they cant even run the country . absolutely useless governmunt .

  • Paul - 2011-02-11 08:15

    crime is job creation for Zuma and his cronies.

      cptnhk3 - 2011-02-11 11:29

      Dude, you guys can not think on a macro level can you? Job creation will bring crime down on the long run. While you have millions of unemployed people you are going to have high crime. Jobs will also bring education and better living conditions and more tax income which can result in better policing etc... Nationalizing marginal mines is a good thing for South Africa at this stage, companies need to show profit, the state just needs to break even, and those are the mines targeted by the ANC and not the ANCYL. I do agree that there is a lot of corruption in government etc but the on a macro level they have the right ideas. Give Zuma a break, I am not saying I support him but he's touching the right buttons and are tackling the problem at the roots.

      Paul - 2011-02-11 12:34

      @cptnhk3, dude zuma and the anc have failed as far as job creation is concerned, income is still only paid by a very small percentage of people in this country and that will not change anytime soon. As for nationalisation they will only be lining their own pockets nothing they do is for the benefit of te country. maybe when you can see through the window dressing then maybe you would understand. All he is doing is touching the buttons its called kissing @rse before the elections.

  • Guy - 2011-02-11 08:15

    Should we not blame Affirmative Action as this is apartheid in Sheeps clothing. Maybe he is right it is apartheid (affirmative Action) that is the reason things are not up to date now

  • My Name is.. - 2011-02-11 08:21

    Why would he comment on crime when him and his cronies all get nice big fat cat houses, with high walls, personal security guards and who knows what else.. Same thing when he went to some township and saw the running water situation and was outraged at the conditions but then proceeded to go home, swim in his nice big heated pool and afterwards releaxed in his nice big 20 seater jacuzzi with all his wives feeding him strawberrys and champagne... Do me a favour, this government doesn't care one bit for the poorer people in this country.. Funny thing though how all this talk about all these billions going for job creation right before elections once again... What happened to all those jobs that were promised last time!? Only way this is worse is that there is now a monetary value attached which no doubt will find its way into some new up n coming BEE billionaire.. Its all a joke as usual...

      Kenko - 2011-02-11 08:50

      This "care for the poor" thing is getting lame. Government do care, they even pay the poor to punch out babies like a billeting machine. We all know it is only for getting votes and in fact, I wish government would care LESS for the resource-gulping POOR. We alreeady have more than we can feed, so why reward them for making more?

  • Jakes - 2011-02-11 08:23

    Responding to JZ's no hope on crime - If ever the time was right for the Death Pennalty to be put to a Referendum in SA it is now!

  • Jakes - 2011-02-11 08:24

    Responding to JZ's no hope on crime - If ever the time was right for the Death Pennalty to be put to a Referendum in SA it is now!

  • lacisnesnon - 2011-02-11 08:28

    Australia is looking good :-)

  • Cassels Madingwane - 2011-02-11 09:31

    There goes the ugly snake rearing its head again! Does any of you guys consider the harm you are putting against fellow white people who are genuine about progress in SA? I can tell you now even those (black people) who were considering DA for a vote would definitely vote against it just to silence and quash the aspirations of the racist leftist like yourselves. Whatever happened to judging a person by the content of their character and not the colour of their skin? I'm so glad I regard myself as part of the youth that doesn't give a toss about these stereotypes! Truly disgusting to read through these comments when one is hoping to hear intelligent responses to the subject on hand! Faceless hypocrites’ because deep down you know that your comments are racist and the timing is just priceless in stupidity terms.

      daboss247365 - 2011-02-11 10:09

      Bro give it up, these online forums are a racism nest. faceless expats most of them, but in the end you gotta do the maths, & try count the users posting racist comments (note that some have 2 or 3 aliases) & there are max 20 ~ 50... out of a nation of 50 million, so do the maths Dont stress cuz, empty vessels make noise here, but in reality, we still all good & proper

      mpanzame - 2011-02-11 10:57

      Brooo - I lost hope ssome time ago. Say what you want - the wit ou is screwed either way. JZ stills blames apartheid for all his mistakes. The white folk have nothing to lose anymore so give it - your comment is a load of k4k considering the ANC policies.

      Smaal - 2011-02-11 11:26

      I agree with mpanzame except for one point. The whites haven’t lost everything in fact they have a lot more to lose. The day a white looks to his left and his right and see a fellow white with nothing and nothing to lose just like himself, that day things will get interesting.

  • Cassels Madingwane - 2011-02-11 09:32

    There goes the ugly snake rearing its head again! Does any of you guys consider the harm you are putting against fellow white people who are genuine about progress in SA? I can tell you now even those (black people) who were considering DA for a vote would definitely vote against it just to silence and quash the aspirations of the racist leftist like yourselves. Whatever happened to judging a person by the content of their character and not the colour of their skin? I'm so glad I regard myself as part of the youth that doesn't give a toss about these stereotypes! Truly disgusting to read through these comments when one is hoping to hear intelligent responses to the subject on hand! Faceless hypocrites’ because deep down you know that your comments are racist and the timing is just priceless in stupidity terms.

  • LADYD - 2011-02-11 09:42


      Kenko - 2011-02-11 10:52

      You seem to be quite the MORON here with your mindless SHOUTING. It would take a 100 years if any of you would be fairly awarded a doctorate. You cannot possibly understand how stupid you appear, so I'm just wasting my time here.

      sessisie - 2011-02-11 11:04

      What are you actually ranting about. Please use some relevant full stops and commas sometimes.

  • sean.carbutt - 2011-02-11 09:45

    What utter crap. He couldn't get pissed if the instructions were printed on the bottle.

  • mpanzame - 2011-02-11 10:54

    Zooma, without a weed eater and a rake gives me little hope period

  • lotus.lindi - 2011-02-11 11:52

    Need jobs for the people? Hint: Increased PRODUCTION adds to the capital base of the economy - the economy grows - jobs are organically created. We need a culture of WORK which presupposes RESPONSIBILITY. Starting at the top please......

  • willow - 2011-02-11 12:05

    Billions of rands get spent by citizens trying to protect themselves every year against criminals - goverment gets it's 14 % + - Easy cash

  • libunts - 2011-02-11 12:06


  • Spartan - 2011-02-11 22:48

    Charles Nqakula: "If you dont like crime, get out" HAS ANYTHING CHANGED? HOW MANY INNOCENT PEOPLE HAVE DIED IN SOUTH AFRICA?

  • Riaan - 2011-02-22 22:14

    We had Apartheid... because we knew this was going to happen!

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