Zuma has a plan for youth

2011-09-04 16:15

Johannesburg - President Jacob Zuma plans to dissolve the ANCYL's executive and replace it with a 25-member "interim leadership core",  sources have told City Press.

Seven inside sources told the newspaper that Zuma will tell the national working committee, expected to meet on Monday, that the youth league cannot continue with its top leaders stuck in disciplinary hearings.

An interim structure is needed, he will argue.

The decision needs to be finalised by the national executive committee (NEC) which constitutionally has the power to disband any ANC structure.

Two youth leaders, an ANC ­national executive committee (NEC) member, a provincial leader and three well-placed sources close to Zuma’s allies said the ANC leader had been convinced by his confidants that he could no longer ­“co-exist” with Malema.

The plan included packing the interim structure with youth leaders purged or suspended by Malema from the league.


An ANC leader, who is neither sympathetic to Zuma nor Malema, said he was aware of the plan. “Malema is going to be suspended or expelled. Zuma’s people told him he needs to win or lose 2012 now.

“Zuma is clever and won’t contest the conference if he knows he’s going to lose. That is why he’s going for Malema.”

A provincial ANC leader added: “Zuma has been convinced that he can no longer co-exist with this boy [Malema]. It’s either him, as ­president of the ANC and the ­country, leading without being ­undermined or it’s Julius.”

Two youth leaders told City Press they had been ­approached about serving in the interim group in case Malema was suspended.

“The national working committee will check the relevance of the league’s leadership ­nationally ­because of what is happening in the country, such as the burning of flags, and make a final decision,” one youth leader said.

The sources said Malema’s nemesis Lehlogonolo Masoga was the initial favourite to lead the ­interim group, but had since been ruled out because he failed to ­appeal his ­dismissal from the league.

Gauteng league leader Lebogang Maile was no longer an option because the Zuma camp suspected him of having struck a deal with Malema.

This ­entailed Maile withdrawing from the league’s recent presidential race in exchange for the inclusion of his ally, ANC Gauteng chairperson Paul Mashatile, in the league’s top six candidates as ­national chairperson at the 2012 conference at Mangaung.

Thabo Mbeki

For its part, the Malema camp has launched a counter-strategy that includes approaching former president Thabo Mbeki to stand for the position of ANC national chairperson to get rid of Zuma.

Two ANC sources in KwaZulu-Natal said they had heard rumours that the ANCYL and its backers had approached Mbeki to stand.

“We’ve heard that they have been talking to Mbeki to try get him to come back as chairperson to build the profile of their slate and add ­capacity,” said one source.

“This does seem to fit in with their comments around Mbeki’s presidency, the wearing of Mbeki T-shirts and the comparisons of the two presidents raised by the league.”

A source with knowledge of the discussions said that the league leadership will need to bring Mbeki’s nomination to the league NEC - where it will meet “massive resistance”.

“If they propose him, we won’t accept that . . . That man will bring back all the things that made us kick him out. We will reverse the gains of Polokwane.”

According to the source there are only three candidates for the ­national chairperson position - ­incumbent Baleka Mbete, Mashatile or Cosatu general secretary Zwelinzima Vavi.

Foot soldiers

A Luthuli House official said it is clear the league is making overtures to Mbeki. “They are sending messages ­saying they will be the foot ­soldiers if he fights Zuma.”

There is doubt about whether Mbeki would accept such an offer.

“Mbeki is one of those people who have intelligence; I doubt he will soil his hands,” the official said.

Mbeki’s spokesperson Mukoni Ratshitanga told City Press he was not aware of approaches to Mbeki, who he understood was “out of South African politics for good”.

  • lehlohonolo.gumede - 2011-09-04 10:09

    This is the begining of the end of the ANC with that African style power hungry beasts who do everything possible to be in power. Don't forget that the current leadership exiled here in Africa and they know the consequences but never learn. They don't mind repeating anything miserable happened in their midst elsewhere in Africa.

      Netherlander - 2011-09-04 16:47

      Lehlohonolo. Gumede... I will 2nd you on that one mate! By cutting the TIP off the end of the SCHLONG, renders the SCHLONG USELESS!!! At the END OF THE DAY, Zuma FEELS THREATENED with Malema and HIS SLY THIEVES.... and this will NOT BE TOLERATED!!! Between you and me and the gate post, this is the END OF THE ANC.... it will start coming off the rail, little by little... come 2014... Mrs Zille will be the occupant in TUINHUIS and the UNION BUILDINGS!!!!

      THE.SRG - 2011-09-04 17:09

      Well strap on the seat belts everyone cause this is gonna be a bumpy ride!

      LBS - 2011-09-04 17:24

      Oooohhh I'm going on a very happy holiday now, NETHERLANDER, you make me feel much, much better. I like to think you are right. Or at least, that all this nonsense can just stop now and that we can all begin to build a happy nation. Is that possible??

      Schalk - 2011-09-04 17:26

      Good grief, this is like a good old soap opera. JZ and JM star in "The Young and the Jobless", a true African tale of power politics and ignoring the people you are supposed to serve. Too bad this is the real world... While these morons spend weeks of time and millions of taxpayers' Rands fighting each other, the country has to teeter forwards with all of its top leaders otherwise engaged. But hey, then again, one could argue that it is not such a bad thing to be relieved of the services of these "leaders" for an extended period of time...

      cliffarc - 2011-09-04 17:49

      - Maybe not the end of the Anc, but certainly a fractured,dysfunctional party. Based on the mob power concept that has become the trend amongst these political leaders , it could come down a battle of the mobs. In this scenario maybe Malema's militant mobs hold the upper hand and certainly appear to be more disenchanted and desparate . This outcome was always likely given the 17 years of inept, corruption riddled Anc governance.

      THE.SRG - 2011-09-04 18:34

      all he is doing is replacing a naughty @pe with an @pe that he can control.

      Thandiwe83 - 2011-09-04 19:28

      Goo riddance to Juju. He drove me out of the ANC with his anti-growth policies and racism. Am sick of division so think divisive people should be dismissed from the main parties. Let him setup his own party - he won't get more than 20% of the vote.

      Spyker May - 2011-09-04 22:46

      How is any of this, going to contribute to the minimum 7% annual growth the SAcan economy needs, if there is ANY hope of addressing the current rate of unemployment. One can only shake one's head in disbelief at people who ask for "economic freedom", but they do not even understand the first thing about 'economics'. How can you conceivably ask for the 'freedom' of something that you cannot even begin to comprehend..? It is like asking for freedom from gravity.., when you do not understand the first thing about physics... Ye right.., imagine that - off into space you go dear friend, let us see how long that will last. Are we then surprised that the vast majority of African countries (so-called democracies) collapse within a few decades after the end of colonisation. It is easy to demand something you do not understand – the test is what you do when you have it. Anybody can walk into the cabin of a large passenger aeroplane, put a gun against the head of the pilot and demand to fly the plane – that does not in ANY way mean, the person with gun, can fly the aeroplane... There is not a single political party in SA that has ANY plan, of any sort, how SA is going to attain anything near 7% economic growth per annum. You can nationalise things until you have turned every colour of the rainbow, none of it addresses economic growth – in fact, ALL the evidence points at the diametric opposite..! cont. below..,

      Spyker May - 2011-09-04 22:46

      Why am I saying all of this here – while it seems to be off-topic..? Because NOTHING that is happening around us in SA, in any way, addresses the issue of economic growth..! Creating jobs do NOT create economic growth – it is an emphatic fallacy. Economic growth creates jobs - that is the valid sequence. To reiterate: jobs do not create economic growth, but economic growth creates jobs – so growth has to come first. Let me use a simple example (there are a plethora of others): the ANC proudly announces it has created thousands of jobs; the “jobs” turn out to be, food vouchers for people collecting waste. So what happens in practice – people simply go to a rubbish dump, collect waste, then they get a food-voucher – that is NOT creating economic growth, not in ANY way conceivable..! You can take every single Rand and sent from white people in SA, all their land and other -property and give it all to the masses, but still you have not created a single decimal point of economic growth. In fact there will probably be such a massive party with all the free stuff that economic growth fall..! If you listen to the people outside Luthuli House, they think “economic freedom” is being given white people’s stuff... To summarise: The entire SA is under siege of an overwhelming political side-show, while we do not have a cooking clue, how we are going to attain a minimum of 7% economic growth per annum.

      Schalk - 2011-09-04 23:32

      True words Spyker. The ignorance within the electorate is overwhelming. This is a really sad state of affairs. People are too ignorant to realize how ignorant they are. It really seems that the only way they will learn is when Julius, the crime and the idiotic ANC socialist policies have chased every taxpayer and investor out of the country and the economy collapses. People need to learn that their single greatest asset is their ability to earn. If you take a rich man and a poor man, give all the rich man's possessions to the poor man and check back again in a year, the rich man will be comfortable again and the poor man will be broke again. I wish we could explain this one simple concept to the masses...

      (YNPL) Youth in need of a proper leader - 2011-09-05 10:03

      Maybe this is an on going process of a spliting party, first cope, now this. Hopefully this time a strong opposition will be created and we shall finnally no longer have 1 monopolizing party.

  • Shrike - 2011-09-04 16:38

    Replacing the head of the snake may be a good first step, but ANCYL has become a "BEE Mafia" that can not now be easily changed or corrected.... Good luck ANC in becoming a credible political party again.....instead of the "Fat Cat" club that you have become....

      Netherlander - 2011-09-04 16:51

      This is what happenes when you give the Chief Tstotsie a LOT OF MONEY... and POWER.... He tends to LOOSE HIS HEAD and believes HE IS A GOD, amongst GODS!!!! WOnder how his followers are going to "ACCEPT" this? After all, they got bussed to Lootfreely House to support PLUMPY... and suddenly he is "NO MORE"... Phew... what a RELIEF... he just DISSAPPEARED OFF THE FACE OF THE HEADLINES... INTO ETHERIAL SPACE!!!! Who the HELL was Julius Malema???? ANYWAY?

  • Frans Smith - 2011-09-04 16:38

    power struggle for the few with selfinterest at heart - it has been seen and done before all over the world and all over africa - the difference normally in africa is that it follows or leads to bloodshed. Lets hope not?

      LBS - 2011-09-04 17:26

      I don't think for one minute Malemmer and his cronies will bail out gently.

      Leoster - 2011-09-05 11:15

      Credo Mutwa predicted the recalling of President Thabo Mbeki and he recently predicted an event that is going to devide this country come 2012. I hope he has lost his touch since President Mbeki was recalled or else what has happened in Africa as you state, might happen here. Check in chess is built from the start of the game, I hope the current moves are not going to undermine the democratic integrity of this nation.

  • Shrike - 2011-09-04 16:42

    Zuma has plan for the Youth? more like a plan for the Youth League....clearly the only plan Zuma is making is for protecting his own career.....and never mind South Africa's youth.....

  • Proffie - 2011-09-04 16:46

    Do the banks know about this? Juliarse has enough money for maybe 4 bond repaymenmts, then it's hello!!, reposession time!!

      LBS - 2011-09-04 17:27

      Ha! Never thought of that!

      Netherlander - 2011-09-04 17:53

      "HAMMER TIME"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! "R2 million going ONCE.... GOING TWICE..... GOING THREE TIMES............ Sold to No 785... Mr Floyd Shivambhu"!!!!!!

  • Frans Smith - 2011-09-04 16:48

    If i was the CEO of Kentucky, i would run for president - i could buy the votes with 1 x piece meals and t-shirts with cocks on it (um..i mean chickens on it)..That would be a total cock-up...not that it isnt now? All the outlet owners could become regional managers - LOL.

  • Allan Rufus - 2011-09-04 16:59

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  • kplkasteel - 2011-09-04 17:00

    cut of the snakes head but just lets not hope 2 will grow in its place. But the start is good. get rid of the cancer that grows inside this country while they still can.

  • John - 2011-09-04 17:10

    Zuma should rather draft the ANCYL leadership and the entire membership into the army, keep them there for two years and teach them some basic skills -- reading and writing to start with.

      LBS - 2011-09-04 17:35

      Yes?? and to learn how to use fire arms properly against the very people they want out of this Country and out of their stupid lives????? I don't think THAT is a good idea.

  • Phaedioux - 2011-09-04 17:11

    This all sounds positive, but my 'gut feel' is that it is all rumourmongering......

  • Coachbrad - 2011-09-04 17:13

    Julius Malenoma - like any cancer, needs to be cut out!

  • Phlegm - 2011-09-04 17:15

    "End of the ANC" - I doubt it, Malema may be a clown, but the ANC has the bucks and in this country money is the power, the "sheeple" will vote ANC regardless, the ANC can still "manipulate" elections. The question is what about the supporters of Malema, not the corrupt "businessmen" or benefactors of questionably awarded tenders , but the uneducated, unemployable, frustrated angry youth that his racist rantings appealed to? They will still exist and continue to grow in numbers, there is no plan that the ANC or Zuma have that is really going to help these people, in fact under the current circumstances their numbers will swell and this could result in a revolt with unpleasant circumstances!

      Phaedioux - 2011-09-04 17:25

      Yes, you are right - it is not even worth putting them through army training/service for a couple of years to try to solve the problem - they first need a basic education!

  • Seth - 2011-09-04 17:21

    Lady Gaga 'Julias' Viwa Julias.. I'm gonna miss him :'(

      LBS - 2011-09-04 17:40

      HA HA HA - PRICELESS!!!!

  • umhlopo - 2011-09-04 17:38

    This could just be a smoke screen,before everyone gets too excited i suggest we wait for monday

  • Slapper - 2011-09-04 18:18

    Zuma has his man in charge of the Police. Is trying to get his men in charge of Justice and now his man in charge of the ANCYL???? Zuma might just be the most dangerous man in Africa?

      Ex-employer - 2011-09-04 18:41

      Stupid people with power are dangerous people, look over the border. Zuma is filling all top positions with YES men.

  • Mike - 2011-09-04 19:04

    Zuma are you running away from Malema now???

  • braamc - 2011-09-04 20:01

    Running out of options, there is no one competent or intellectual, that counts for the entire ANC. Savage, thieving, criminal bastards.

  • Jacqueline - 2011-09-04 21:03

    And so the games begin. The Malema-ites are not going to be pleased.

  • Thandi - 2011-09-04 21:13

    OMG, the intrigue and skullduggery at loot-freely house has me on the edge of my seat - I am so looking forward to jumping up and down on my seat when fatboy gets his marching orders.

  • Gewete - 2011-09-05 08:04

    The plot thickens...

      Hope-101 - 2011-09-06 13:40

      @ Gewete: Absolutely, just like Malema.

  • mosali - 2011-09-05 09:14

    When JuJu and his buddies brown-eyed the world way back in Bloemfontein he was just showing his elders what he thought of them / South Aficathen- they let the MONSTER grow into this thing we all have to contend with now - see spare the rod and spoil the child NEVER was the answer they just grow up and bite you in the butt!

  • piempies - 2011-09-05 09:32

    what a circus!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • sonny.brilliant - 2011-09-05 09:50

    The beginning of the end....

  • Kgopotso Ngoato - 2011-09-05 09:52

    if malema wins this round. i guaranttee this will be marking the end of the anc as a powerhouse. then we must expect huge chaos in terms of looting and running, the rise of the 'silent opposition' and the margin between the rich and poor will grow wider. this will lead to only one thing. a chaotic civil unrest. we are millions of hopefuls who live everyday with the promise of days that will not come. that social lift of our living standards, will never be delivered because it is unrealisitic. we are a nation of uneducated masses. if we cannot fight intellectually, there is only one ulternative. not good i'm afraid.

  • BloodRiver - 2011-09-05 09:58

    Hey Zuma I have a suggestion, how about only allowing youths to join? You know, people under the age of 21?

  • bjm79 - 2011-09-05 10:10

    action speaks louder than words!!! get back to the credible party you were and let this country rise and become the nation that we were meant to be.

  • SalesMon - 2011-09-05 10:15

    Guys, I don't necessarily think this is a good thing for the opposition. Another (probably more realistic scenario) is one which sees the current ANCYL executive expelled from the organisation and starting a new political party - one which is far more militant and populist than the existing ANC regime (which is starting to seem conservative). Julius has an immensely strong following who are unemployed, disulluisioned and unhappy ... just the right bedding ground for a new revolutionist regime ...

  • Sleepazoid - 2011-09-05 13:44

    Youth has a plan for Zuma.

  • Mike - 2011-09-05 15:14

    Zuma plans to dissolve the ANCYL's executive HaHaHaHaHa Ja sure right !!

  • waine - 2011-09-05 15:15

    Who needs reality TV, watch the news? Who needs a novel, read News 24? Brilliant entertainment right on our doorstep!

  • bmavundla - 2011-09-05 15:22

    People should stop complaining..lets vote against these people(Anc) before they take our beautiful country down!

  • Free Man - 2011-09-05 15:32

    Confucius summed up the importance of knowledge this way, “Those who are born with the possession of knowledge are the highest class of men. Those who learn and readily gain possession of knowledge are the next. Those who are dull and stupid, and yet manage to learn are another class next to these. As to those who are dull and stupid and yet do not learn—they are the lowest of the people.

  • Free Man - 2011-09-05 15:37

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  • diehardSA - 2011-09-05 16:05

    so if i understood this story correctly... The ANCYL is going to ask the President they help untoppled at Polokwane in 2009 (Mbeki)to willingly / able assist them unseat the President they elected at that party... Thicker as manure... How stupid / ignorant

  • Ivan - 2011-09-05 16:55

    Better for us if they focus on each other in the ANC rather than focussing on f*cking up the country. I am beginning to enjoy this....

  • Verdade - 2011-09-05 18:10

    Geez....Shrek Showerhead you never fail to make me laugh and realize what an IDIOT you are...You have so many plans for stuff that's not realated to our country however you have plans for the hooligan youth...Shrek best you plan you life a bit....

  • mninela1 - 2011-09-05 20:51

    Pitty a number of africans are happy that things are not going accordingly in the ANC. If ANC no longer serves this country, no other African party is capable of doing this, I Foresee big issues.

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