Zuma 'misled' Parliament: Opposition

2012-11-18 19:30

Johannesburg - Opposition parties on Sunday lashed at President Jacob Zuma for "misleading" Parliament about the bond he had on his house in Nkandla.

"As the President was speaking under his oath of office he seem to have knowingly misled Parliament and the nation that he had a bond and this amounts to perjury.

"This is a very serious offence under the Constitution and the law as indicated in Section 89 of the Constitution of the Republic," said Congress of the People leader Mosiuoa Lekota.

The City Press reported that the land on which Zuma's home stands was owned by the Ingonyama Trust, headed by King Goodwill Zwelithini, which managed 32% of all land in KwaZulu-Natal on behalf of the state for the benefit of its occupants.

On Thursday Zuma told Parliament: "I took the decision to expand my home and I built my home with more rondavels, more than once. And I fenced my home. And I engaged the bank and I'm still paying a bond on my first phase of my home."

The newspaper said it had been unable to locate public records to support Zuma's claim that the Nkandla property was bonded.

The deed document for the property showed that the Ingonyama Trust was the owner.

Belinda Benson, Ingonyama Trust's property manager, confirmed to City Press that the deeds office records, uncovered by the newspaper, were for Zuma's homestead.

Democratic Alliance parliamentary leader Lindiwe Mazibuko said: "Serious consequences must follow if President Zuma misled Parliament this past week about having a bond on his private home in Nkandla.

She said what Zuma did reflected negatively to his office and warranted the most urgent and immediate consideration by the National Assembly.

"I will today [Sunday] write to the Speaker of the National Assembly, Max Sisulu, and urge him to request clarification from the Presidency as to the reports in the City Press today, as they seriously risk bringing Parliament into disrepute," Mazibuko said.

  • craig.decks - 2012-11-18 19:36

    I am convinced there has never been a more corrupt individual in power with as many 'allegations' against his name still in a position of power! Let this story have a happy ending and all the perpetrators be dealt with accordingly swiftly and not at the tax payers expense !

      Michael - 2012-11-18 19:41

      I totally agree with you! It's a joke!

      Synomore - 2012-11-18 20:39

      what puzzles me is if indeed he lied in paliament didnt it sink in him that the media will found out? Did his advisor give him the greenlight to lie to the nation? If so does he think that everybody in mzansi is a fool ? The more he tries to justfy this issue it doesnt make sense at all after all this whole issue was meant to secret. But i must say whoever is paying for these leaks must be really very upset with his boss

      lacrimose.wolf - 2012-11-18 22:32

      @Synomore - watch this space! More spin-doctoring to come. After all he said *a* bond. He'll probably prove he bonded some other property to finance Nkandla. But that will take a few months to fudge the records to back-date the transaction, by which time Mangaung would have come and gone.

      charlesbronson.bronson - 2012-11-19 08:53

      What did you expect from a liar and thief!!!

      carl.debeer.52 - 2012-11-19 09:27

      He is up there with the best...but dont forget Mugabe or Mswati III (King of Swaziland) who equally rape and pillage their respective countries!

      amanda.vandenberg.758 - 2012-11-19 09:40

      When he was elected he was already drowning in corruption lies and deceit, what amazes me is that there are still people that would die defending him, morons! Maybe they know that they would be able to continue with their own corruption if he is president once again!

      freddie.miff - 2012-11-19 09:42

      No bank will grant a bond on a building on land owned by the Ingonyama Trust. The resident of the property can never get full unencumbered ownership and is thus not bondable. This is a commonly known fact. So Zuma who gave you the money? Shaik, Gupta, or some other corrupt crony? Or did it all come from us, the long suffering taxpayers?

      heathway.master - 2012-11-19 10:11

      Zuma has now got himself into a very serious situation. The DA or the public should insist on a full forensic audit on the Nkandla debacle. If it turns out that Zuma has lied to the Nation, legally he is liable to immediate impeachment. This is the common law of the world. He would them lose his Government pension and other related perks of an ex-President. If he is called to repeat his claims in a court of Law, he will then be guilty of Perjury, a criminal offence. I doubt whether Zuma will be oily enough to squeeze out of the deep trouble he has landed himself in by blatantly lying to the Nation. I will watch further developments with great interest.

      wesley.bischoff - 2012-11-19 11:26

      @alicia Shabir isn't in jail... he is on the golf course...

      clive.wannenburg - 2012-11-19 11:33

      He was corrupt before he took office so why all the concern now. We know what we have in leadership and is our responsablity to vote out and bring in a new and fair Goverment we can be proud of and follow.

      squeegee.pilot - 2012-11-19 12:18

      As usual my posts were delete...Ho Hum... Fire Zipper now! Throw him in prison!

      travis.centor - 2012-11-19 12:25

      If you think apartheid was bad wait till you see what corrupt african leaders can do to a country.

      wesley.bischoff - 2012-11-19 12:46

      Lol @ alicia, you are right there ;)

      sean.bagley.50 - 2012-11-19 12:57

      Where's yesterday's comments on this story?Again News24 removed them as per their usual self.What the hell is wrong with this News24 people?

      wesley.bischoff - 2012-11-19 13:32

      Ugh sean, there is no point. The editor tells me i must send my complaints to the community editors. I do this, they read the emails, yet cannot be bothered to reply. They are a bunch of f**king morons.

      morris.khunou - 2012-11-19 13:47

      @Alicia> Hahaa! You hate Zuma with passion neh! You have only two choices Zuma or Malema? Some of us who are pro-Zuma are already preparing for his Third term! How about that? We just want to extend your self chosen suffering a bit! Hate is very painful and it hurts the hater. We dont use your comments,opposition views and newspapers to decide on our leaders. They cannot be impartial! But I love your smile, hope is not serpant!

      wesley.bischoff - 2012-11-19 14:43

      morris.khunou - 2012-11-19 15:47

      @Alicia > I dont think you are for real! Mr Zuma is a very nice person once you get to know him personally. Should you meet him one day, be restarsured the will be no turning back to Nkandla. There are still some roundavels that are vacant!

      adam.gardener.12 - 2012-11-19 18:40

      zuma is the joker in this house of cards.

      morris.khunou - 2012-11-20 12:00

      @ Alice> politics has a potential to stereotype! Non of us is writting drivel. We are sitting opposite sides of the fence, talking past one another. Non of us will give in! Only stones in the air! But ours is still a beautiful country! I just hate anymosity!

  • profesas1 - 2012-11-18 19:36

    The twincab head is full of lies

      younus.bux - 2012-11-18 20:42

      you're quite right the first head is to lie,the second head is to steal and not forgetting the third head busy milking the cows in Nkandla.

      wesley.bischoff - 2012-11-19 11:26

      Lol twincab head ^__^

      stirrer.stirrer - 2012-11-19 12:28

      The Fiat Multiplas was modelled after JZ's head.

  • JohnDough - 2012-11-18 19:37

    How do you know when Zuma is lying? His lips move.

      andre.ackermann.14 - 2012-11-18 21:03

      No, the shower is running...!

      emilyjane.elson - 2012-11-19 08:51

      He must be a VERY clean man Andre!! Ha Ha

  • Erna - 2012-11-18 19:40

    'Misled' parliament is a really polite way of saying the president lied. This seems to be part of SA culture.

  • eugene.muller.7 - 2012-11-18 19:42

    Come on...he's got a gazillion charges of corruption against him...of course he will lie through his grunting and teeth.

      brad.ken.18 - 2012-11-18 21:12

      Gorillian charges!

  • izan.botes.7 - 2012-11-18 19:43

    why must newspapers / media always alert parliament of corruption. this actually indicates to a bigger problem witch is that our whole system is broken.

  • eugene.muller.7 - 2012-11-18 19:44

    Vote of no confidence... oh sorry, that did not work either.

      tw2066 - 2012-11-19 01:30

      should be a no brainier vote, but a certain type of voter keeps the likes of Zipper in power.

  • Erna - 2012-11-18 19:50

    Can't wait till Monday to hear how Mac 'defends' this one. He is being kept real busy lately.

      brad.ken.18 - 2012-11-18 20:16

      You wont hear anything until about Thursday. They dont wek on week ends! Ooooops. Sorry. I made a mistake. They dont wek at all, except EFT's to their personal accounts!! Rotten thieves to the core!

      sthembiso.jali.50 - 2012-11-18 20:17

      He won't keep with all this guy's BS, soon he's gonna have a heart attack.

      lacrimose.wolf - 2012-11-18 22:54

      Waiting for the statement about "'misplaced' documents from the Deeds Office".

      charlietlo - 2012-11-19 11:39

      Here is what you can expect counter-revolutionary,imperialism, apartheid and their trump card RACISM. whatever he is gon say we've heard it before

  • christopher.m.lowe - 2012-11-18 19:51

    Zuma didn't just 'mislead' parliament. He LIED to parliament. And he wants our respect? This conman belongs in jail.

      frederik.vanas - 2012-11-18 20:51

      he comes from jail.......

      RudiErnst - 2012-11-18 23:11

      He is having to legislate respect. Can you imagine for a moment being so pathetic and immoral that you must force people by law to respect you?

      morris.khunou - 2012-11-19 13:50

      You are not capable of respecting him either!

  • sthembiso.jali.50 - 2012-11-18 19:51

    Zuma mislead the whole nation.

      frederik.vanas - 2012-11-18 20:52

      no only the dumb idiots that follows him......other people knows better than to listen to his lies.....

      zak.burger - 2012-11-20 10:51


  • Desiree.D.Rowe - 2012-11-18 19:51

    According to the laws of nature, what goes around comes around. Did he really think that what he did to Mr Mbeki wouldn't come and bite him on the .................? Honestly! Time someone grew up and actually did what he is paid too.

  • vivian.harris.73 - 2012-11-18 19:57

    Nothing will happen. Mac will spin the story as always....

      thabo.modiba.7 - 2012-11-18 20:05

      Obvious he will say something like \The president meant emotional bond. His words have been taken out of context\

      marius.koen.16 - 2012-11-18 20:41

      The Sisulu siblings are just as corrupt. Their father must be turning in his grave.

      frederik.vanas - 2012-11-18 20:56

      think old Walter is saying well done my son....:-)

  • lisa.evansdominick - 2012-11-18 19:58

    Proves that he is a bloody liar, he take the nation as fools. Fire his ass out of there and appoint someone worthy, he has lied to us far too often. in a first world country he would be in jail

  • thabo.modiba.7 - 2012-11-18 20:01

    Delicious lies. JZ can lie, ever wonder why has so many woman ? He also lied about passing grade 2, he has never been to school.

      talana.malherbe - 2012-11-19 12:54

      Whahahahaha thank you for a good laugh Thabo

  • khethu.ndlovu.3 - 2012-11-18 20:02

    There will be no sleeping at inkandla kraal today, every retired member of the cadres will be routed in and page by pages the constitution will be scavanged for a law that was probably passed by jan van reebieck which allows the president to lie in parliament if the country safety is at stake, and of couse chicken licken staff will sweat it out untill the early hours of the morning.

      thabo.modiba.7 - 2012-11-18 20:09

      You meant Simon van Der Stel. The was in his league.

      johanttblom - 2012-11-18 22:55

      You are correct Thabo the van der stels were a real bunch of zumas using public office to get land and enrich themselves . The thumbs downers this is well documented at vergelegen and constantia ;)

      RudiErnst - 2012-11-18 23:07

      Too funny! And sadly, probably prescient.

      talana.malherbe - 2012-11-19 12:57

      Very true, as Jonathan says.

  • rob.gunning.1 - 2012-11-18 20:04

    Mr. Lekota is like a pitbull. He chooses his target and won't let go till it's finished. I like this man a lot.

      jacqui.daanevanrensburg - 2012-11-19 10:07

      Rob. Yes I like him too but they keep throwing him out of parliament while drama queen Sisulu can insult people to high heaven. Hypocrites.

      wesley.bischoff - 2012-11-19 11:30

      Yeah, she can insult someone and say he has flea's, but nothing happens to her. Lekota says something, and he is thrown out of parliament. Why didn't brother Max condemn sissi when she insulted a fellow member of parliament?

  • tobela.maki - 2012-11-18 20:04

    My PRESIDENT U're a joke SIR.jst do URSLF n ME a favour,jst step down as a PRESIDENT of da COUNTRY Man...

      asdhasgd - 2012-11-18 21:13

      lol where the trolls at tonight?? looks like they got nothing to say >:) ZUMA is going going goin...

      eland.snitbul - 2012-11-19 07:54

      Well said.... get someone educated and who loves the country to lead... NO MATTER WHAT RACE.

  • narike.lintvelt.9 - 2012-11-18 20:09

    I have created a petition supporting SA's opposition parties' motion of no confidence in Pres Zuma. Please take the time to sign and share this. Thank you.

  • julio.sanfona - 2012-11-18 20:13

    I'm sure that the president's spokesman, Mac Maharaj, will try and explain what the president really meant when he said in parliament that he had a bond for Nkandla. This just shows that when the president speaks from the cuff, i.e. without being coached or without prepared notes, he invariably puts his foot in the dwang. I don't think he understands the seriousness of lying to the mp's in parliament or he thinks that he can just deny it all!

      malcolm.james.macleod - 2012-11-19 09:25

      Mac will no doubt have some nonsensical explanation about how we are all stupid racists who don't understand and the president meant something entirely different, he always does.

  • lee.brand.73 - 2012-11-18 20:13

    I think you okes are being unkind to jz. You are not taking account of his \un European\ culture that he spoke about recently. He doesnt lie - he misspoke. Somebody told him that he had a koi pond. He misunderstood. In fact the whole anc misspeaks a lot because they get confused with big english words like \corruption\, fraud, theft, dishonesty, lies etc

  • chirnsidep - 2012-11-18 20:13

    All Zuma wants is to live like royalty. Where an emperor runs an empire and a king runs a kingdom, Zuma is neither. But he does apparently run a COUNTry ! And in the spirit of this statement - for that he is well suited !

  • vosloo.jaco - 2012-11-18 20:13

    And he will jump in a shower and every thing will be over again

      edwin.dinake.1 - 2012-11-18 20:26

      Lol. I dont think showering will safe him this time.

  • asdhasgd - 2012-11-18 20:15

    WOOP! WOOP!! sh**s gonna hit the fan now xD what do you ANC sheep have to say about your president now?? there is now UNDENIABLE PROOF he is a liar and morally corrupt!!

  • don.mug.3 - 2012-11-18 20:15

    Zuma is very far above the law,the laws obey him .

  • ctomose - 2012-11-18 20:16

    We all knw he ws lying and he is good @ defending lies

  • pamela.jacobs.509 - 2012-11-18 20:16

    I am shocked and hurt, I can't believe a politician misled someone else, shocked I tell you! Really, NOTHING surprises me anymore. I am too scared to ask who will supersede the man we should now "respect"

  • sello.molekwa.1 - 2012-11-18 20:18

    The plot thickens. But watch as the ruling party and the Speaker defend him in parliament, disregarding the severity of the issue at hand and even going on to suggest that citizens of this country are being disrespectful to the president. Sometimes I don't believe my ears when I hear the unbelievable things being said in this country.

      talana.malherbe - 2012-11-19 13:00

      I know sello, and we hang our heads in shame.

  • truthbetold221 - 2012-11-18 20:19

    He's a nightmare! Now watch the zulus come in his defense.

  • aroka.murombe - 2012-11-18 20:21

    I'm not surprised.....

  • mammudi.makgaleng.3 - 2012-11-18 20:22

    Take the ass***le to jail period.

  • tebogoasterr.metswamere - 2012-11-18 20:26

    I dont knw what is Zuma saying about a bond, he continues to be a joke, yes he mislead the parliament, i think he must just step down becuase he has already mislead the country too. TO MR ZUMA PLEASE SIR JUST LEAVE THE OFFICE YOU HV DISGRACED OUR COOUNTRY

  • corncob - 2012-11-18 20:31

    When you visit a prison and speak to prisoners not one will admit to be guilty but it's always somebody else that caused their downfall That's part of the criminal mindset they don't know right from wrong ,truth is what they speak ,They believe what they do is right .They have a major sense of self entitlement Make you think ,just saying.

      lacrimose.wolf - 2012-11-19 00:05

      You don't have to visit prison, we see it daily from people in all walks of life. They DO know right from wrong, they simply refuse to be accountable for their wrongdoing. It's always someone else's fault - extenuating circumstance etc. Physical adults with the emotional intelligence of a 10 year old.

  • terrylee.heuer - 2012-11-18 20:31

    The DA has filed for an urgent interdict to allow the motion of no confidence against President Jacob Zuma to be debated in the National Assembly....let's just hope that the Courts allows this to happen!!!!

      narike.lintvelt.9 - 2012-11-18 20:37

      I have created a petition supporting SA's opposition parties' motion of no confidence in Pres Zuma. Please take the time to sign and share this. Thank you.

  • sello.molekwa.1 - 2012-11-18 20:35

    Mac Maharaj will say the president was quoted out of context, he didn't say he had taken a bond on the Nkandla property, what he meant is that as a citizen, he has rights like other citizens and is also eligible to take a bond on a property if he wants to. The president has applied for the bond and the application is still being processed by the bank. LOL

      issy.monar - 2012-11-18 20:47

      Nyc one bro.

      aroka.murombe - 2012-11-18 20:55


      sheik.mohammad.378 - 2012-11-18 21:19

      I think you are closer to the truth than you think.

      archie.mooki - 2012-11-18 21:27

      spin doctor heh ...I will appoint you when I'm a minister of nkandlaville

      tiaan.vanderberg.75 - 2012-11-18 21:49

      Sello your job is cut out for you. Brilliantly said my man. That is exactly what will happen.

      Antipoaching - 2012-11-18 22:16

      Sello, how do you know when Zuma is fibbing? Answer: Mac Maharajs lips are moving!

      oliphant.mzolisi - 2012-11-18 22:27

      Whow dont mention Mharaj that one was proven wrong not so long ago when his inteligence was tested on the Ngcuka issue of being an apartheid spy or agent he confused the agents numbers ruther lied and now he is a spokesperson of JZ i wonder if u mix dirty water with dirty water what will be the outcome?

      toxicater - 2012-11-18 22:37

      Sello well said ,

      glen.e.huysamer - 2012-11-19 08:23

      Mac should be arrested as well, he was the one who probably wrote the lies in the presidents speech. He is also a 'cousin' to the "Gumptas' who are in reality controlling the ANC via the new "KING of the Zulu's Zuma' and his 'Cadre' disciples' he is also the one who has the ANC in a constant spin....

  • ncinci.xesibe - 2012-11-18 20:40

    South Africa my beloved country.

  • ashley.rhulani - 2012-11-18 20:48


  • issy.monar - 2012-11-18 20:51

    Oh Lord save South Africa

  • johan.vermeulen.127 - 2012-11-18 20:51


      wesley.bischoff - 2012-11-19 11:33

      ^ That's a bit much... We aren't living in Medieval times...

      asdhasgd - 2012-11-20 10:25

      Point taken wesley. LETS NECKLACE HIM :)

  • thabo.mkokeli - 2012-11-18 20:55

    nw future presidents will knw that being a president asss neeee Pap en Flass thnx 2 the likes of Zooomer.

  • Ntutu Dlova - 2012-11-18 20:56

    @narike.lintvelt.9: Just checked out the petition ,would like to sign ,just one ? why is USA the default country or is only on my side?

      wesley.bischoff - 2012-11-19 10:35

      The company managing the petition site must be based in America. Or they just put USA as the default. I just selected South Africa :)

  • sibusiso.makamole - 2012-11-18 21:04

    Come on people this is Jacob Zuma that we are talking about.

      Wally Wal - 2012-11-18 21:47

      WTF is he ?

      sibusiso.makamole - 2012-11-19 08:19

      Its Jacob Zuma the guy who took a shower to cure Aids.

  • samgaf - 2012-11-18 21:04

    he has been misleading the nation long before he took office,when is it going to stop?????Well no-one can stop mugabe!!!

  • Dazza22 - 2012-11-18 21:08

    The King owns 32% of the land in KZN? Give some to the poor, they want land, give them this land. They are his subjects after all!!

      issy.monar - 2012-11-18 21:28

      Who gave him that land?All this will come to pass.

  • nic.becker.79 - 2012-11-18 21:09

    how can he spent taxpayers funds on a property which is not registered in his name??????on socalled security!!!!!!pls let him answer this.

  • nic.becker.79 - 2012-11-18 21:11

    taxpayers monies on a property which is not registred in his name. how come??

      morris.khunou - 2012-11-19 15:56

      The issue is clarified already, but alas your news sources will not tell you i.e. radio sonder grense, Die Beeld even News 24 because they want to keep you pumped up! I am not sure you guys are free!

  • peter.finlayson.90 - 2012-11-18 21:12

    The shower head is getting lower and lower and the water is gushing out faster and faster...The man's days are numbered!

  • tlou.andries.58 - 2012-11-18 21:28

    We dont hv a president guys.lets hope one day God wil sent us the right person to lead our beautiful country.

      Simon Maabe - 2012-11-18 21:37

      We have a president! the question is what kind of a person he is? who elects them? and we don't have to wait for God, coz God also loves him. You need to do something.

      victor.tshikovhele - 2012-11-18 22:14

      How can we have a good pres while these other mongols bussy protecting him.Tutu annd others said it before about him.

      wesley.bischoff - 2012-11-19 11:34

      Ja if god loves him, it just shows what a moronic god you believe in...

  • Dogmaticmad - 2012-11-18 21:34

    Ever wondered why the goverment is so persistent to implement the protection of the information bill. For examples like these. To cover up their lies!!

  • Simon Maabe - 2012-11-18 21:35

    Who? Belinda Benson? Goodwill Zwelithini and his friend Jacob Zuma don't even have a trust and faith in their many wives nor other Zulu girls, and instead get's managed by a girl from a minority group. And we expect this JZ to transform this country, but he can't transform the power of the land ge sleeps in?

      wesley.bischoff - 2012-11-19 11:36

      Maybe he is building an empire there in Nkandla. Zweletini will join him. They both get money from the treasury. Zumba with his R2.5million, and Goodsh*t with his R60million per year.

  • Dogmaticmad - 2012-11-18 21:36

    The ANC wheels are coming off and fast!!

      Erna - 2012-11-18 21:39

      The wheels turn and the fun and games are starting.

      mbuti.manopole.3 - 2012-11-18 21:54

      Keep fooling urself plonker

      zingisa.makuluma - 2012-11-18 22:37

      Jacob Zuma is Mampara lol

      jacqui.daanevanrensburg - 2012-11-19 10:39

      Mbuti.manopole.3 Why do you people always have to call other people names?. is this how you treat each other?. Your mother for instance?.

      asdhasgd - 2012-11-20 10:31

      Jacqui they call intelligent people names because they themselves are insecure of their own intelligence so their only logical reason would be to call the sensical and educated people IDIOTS. there is clear and cut evidence that the president is corrupt but the supporters are like "HAI! HAI MAN! NO BRAH!! THE DA IS MED BRAH!!" and the reason people like mbuti cant hold up a proper argument is because of 2 reasons: 1: They lack the mental capacity to act civilized and fear of moving forward 2: Hold a grudge and always look to the past Eitherway its a Lose Lose situation so i dont feel sorry for you. All i know is that I'm a good citizen, i pay my taxes (wherever the hell they goto), I abey the law and I vote DA every time. As for you guys, HA, the ANC's demise will come sooner than you think. Have a nice day.