Parties want Cele decision from Zuma

2012-06-07 14:25

Johannesburg - President Jacob Zuma must make an urgent announcement on the future of suspended police commissioner General Bheki Cele, political parties said on Thursday.

Congress of the People MP Leonard Ramatlakane said the party was worried by Zuma's "silence" on Cele's reported dismissal.

"President Zuma must tell the nation if Cele has been fired or not. Cope believes the inevitable firing of Cele, whose office has been riddled with unpopular decisions, will help stabilise the destroyed police morale," he said.

Freedom Front Plus spokesperson Pieter Groenewald said the lack of any official confirmation from Zuma was creating "further uncertainty" in the police.

"It is in the national interest that there is certainty in the police... especially surrounding the position of [the] national commissioner," he said.

Declined to comment

"The Freedom Front Plus calls on... Zuma to finally fire Cele and appoint a police commissioner with a strong police training record."

The presidency declined to comment on Thursday on reports that Cele had been fired.

"We have no comment on the matter at this stage," presidential spokesperson Mac Maharaj said.

Cele's spokesperson Vuyo Mkhize and his lawyer Vincent Maleka was not available to confirm or deny the reports.

The Star reported that Cele was informed of his axing on Wednesday. He was told to vacate his office, and that his replacement was due to report for duty on July 1.

The Times reported that Cele was told about the decision on Tuesday.

Unnamed sources

Both reports were based on unnamed sources.

The Times source said Cele would fight the dismissal "tooth and nail". "The general is not going to roll over and die. He is not that kind of man. He is strong. Stronger than this and [he] will fight all the way," the source said.

Mkhize told SABC radio news on Thursday that he saw Cele at lunch on Wednesday and said no decision had been conveyed to Cele.

He said that when similar things had previously come out in the media, they often turned out to be correct, so the reports might be accurate.

On Wednesday night Maharaj said Zuma would make his decision on Cele known when he was "ready".

Unfit to hold office

Last month, a board of inquiry appointed by Zuma found Cele unfit to hold office and recommended he be fired. He has been suspended since last year.

The inquiry followed a finding in July by Public Protector Thuli Madonsela that Cele's involvement in deals to acquire police office space was "improper, unlawful and amounted to maladministration".

Madonsela concluded that while Cele had not signed the final lease, he had initiated negotiations with property tycoon Roux Shabangu, and had seemed determined to secure the leases despite warnings against them.

The Democratic Alliance said on Wednesday that Zuma must announce whether he has fired Cele.

"President Zuma must tell the police and the public whether he has indeed sacked Cele," said DA spokesperson on police, Dianne Kohler Barnard.

"The ongoing uncertainty about the situation in the top brass of the [SA Police Service] undermines police morale, public confidence in the police and the fight against crime," she said.

  • gerhard.kress.3 - 2012-06-07 14:34

    Zuma once again is paralysed. He is not fit to lead. He knew about this problem for a long time already.

      Charles-Bronson - 2012-06-07 14:50

      The most corrupted useless president of South Africa ever produced can not make a call be cause is is first asking his corrupted party leaders how they can duck-and-dive and scheming a new position for there corrupted friend Cele.

      Felix - 2012-06-07 15:24

      @OverstupidTrolly, how about it, want to join my golf team?

      Rabble-Rouser - 2012-06-07 15:26

      This must be getting very embarassing for Zuma. Firing cabinet ministers followed by the police chief in a rotten police force littered with criminal elements. And of course some of the dubious appointments like Menzi Simelane that have to be overturned. It's an utterly poor reflection on his leadership.

      Glyn - 2012-06-07 16:27

      The answer to the paralyzed president is to vote for the DA in the next elections. If you do not like the DA then boycott the anc.

      sandy.langenstrass - 2012-06-07 17:07

      Rabble...he caused his own embarrassment by employing them in the first place...he should have followed the correct being (making sure they had clean records)...not just appointing friends.

      Nicolaas - 2012-06-07 19:41

      @Gerhard, nope he is not paralysed, you do not rememeber that his spear was hanging down in the painting, he is down and out! LOL!

  • nikondaniel - 2012-06-07 14:35

    Zuma lacks 2 things... a left testicle and a right testicle.

      Alan - 2012-06-07 14:48

      haha ! And also a coin to flip when 'big' decisions come along.

      Raymond - 2012-06-07 15:23

      Cele needs to warm up his Wok and give his pip a good ironing.

  • mthokozisi.madlala.7 - 2012-06-07 14:39

    Governement is not a patiant!! the president has a prerogative to announce when he want to do so....there is no legislation compeling to announce his decision because you want to hear it.....!!

      nkosikos - 2012-06-07 14:41

      ha ha ha ha I like it

      Henk - 2012-06-07 14:44

      And that is the reason why Africa is Africa. Bunch of idiots who has no inclination of accountability. But then again that is why corruption is in your culture.

      Antipoaching - 2012-06-07 14:45

      The Prez and his ilk are the ones treating govt like a stokvel my boet!

      Charles-Bronson - 2012-06-07 14:52

      Correction: Buffoon idiots!!

      Lourenzo - 2012-06-07 15:16

      @Mthokozisi, you are a moron

      berni.venter - 2012-06-07 16:03

      @mthokozisi.madlala.7 You have a valid point there. If the Government was being run by a stokvel they would not tolerate one person doing what they please and undermining the rest of the members interests. Trust me, decisions would be made swiftly to eject the one bringing shame on the Stokvel. Not only that the Chairperson of the Stokvel can also be voted out by the members if they are not doing their job or not upholding the constitution of the Stokvel. Mini democratic principals apply. So if the Chairperson (read President ) of the Stokvel (read country) does not respond to the members (read citizens) enquiries timeously and sufficiently, a hidden agenda is afoot. If the members do not have confidence in the Chairperson the Stokvel is doomed.

      Nicolaas - 2012-06-07 19:44

      @domkohozi, and it is our perogative to demand that he actually start working for the salary he steals every month by taking the right decissions when it comes to matters like this!!!! It is also our perogative to acceot that your are stupid!

      balan.morgen - 2012-06-30 12:14

      Zuma is 'n groot Bobbejaan finish en klaar.

  • Gavin - 2012-06-07 14:41

    why does everything that zuma does draaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaag on for weeks while he studies a document that can be summed up in a few words: you appointed a boy to do a mans job - now reap what you sewed and fire the moron. when you appoint a successor, actually read his f'ing CV first !!

      Henk - 2012-06-07 14:44

      He can't read....

      Charles-Bronson - 2012-06-07 14:57

      Grade 6 does not offer this benefit. They are busy drawing some stick art images for the most corrupted useless president this country produced so he can have some understanding!!

      Vic - 2012-06-07 15:03

      Henk, I think he can read word for word, but can't understand anything.Probaly trying to string a sentence together, when all he has to say is " Cele is Fired !"

      Nicolaas - 2012-06-07 19:47

      @Henk and Vic, he is still waiting on his commision of communication to write him the sentence! Then they need to explain the meaning of each word, just in case he is being asked questions of what he just read! Do you understand nw why every thing the spear does takes time? The only thing that does not take thaaaat long is him spearing his wifes!

      Vic - 2012-06-07 20:48

      Nicolaas, you're one up on me !

  • njdejager - 2012-06-07 14:44

    Silent as always. Whats the point of him being president. He was quick to respond about the painting. But not matters of national importance. Same old same old.

      bernpm - 2012-06-07 15:54

      he never responded, just had his loyal friends to do the job. cowardice behaviour!

  • Ditantane - 2012-06-07 14:51

    he will announce at midnight,

      Glyn - 2012-06-07 15:11

      he will announce at midnight, on a jungle drum, ......?

      John - 2012-06-07 15:59

      And you know this how???

      Glyn - 2012-06-07 16:18

      @John ... My ancestors told me!

  • pmalungana - 2012-06-07 14:57

    Please Mr. President do nt give another chance to take you to court to compel you to speak. We do not need another political storm on this one. Be brave and show them that you are in charge. I know you will before the end of the day, let them cry first

      Alan - 2012-06-07 15:08

      and roughly translated, that means ...????

      Glyn - 2012-06-07 16:20

      @Hasani p ... Roughly translated that means "time to perform as a real president or get lost!"

  • Bob - 2012-06-07 15:04

    He is too busy running his families personal businesses interests to take time to make this decision final!

      balan.morgen - 2012-06-07 15:40

      missing in action - phumi, poloyatonkidonkey, Sganja, bluezulu, Tamaranui, Tsotsi-Baby.

  • nathi.siphala - 2012-06-07 15:06

    What is he waiting for because he didn't wait to late Shiceka.

  • Alan - 2012-06-07 15:07

    Hmmmm - anybody see Carte Blanche, and how many Millions of Rands SA is forking out monthly to pay for corrupt and suspended Civil Servants? These okes are making a killing by being suspended, so there should be no dilly dallying by Govt. If the man is guilty - he should get fired without delay!

  • njdejager - 2012-06-07 15:11

    He is trying to "apply his mind" again. Thats whats taking the loooooong time. Indecisive as ever.

      Lourenzo - 2012-06-07 15:22

      He is too slow?

  • sean.murphy.165 - 2012-06-07 15:16

    Maybe he is busy posing for a new portrait with correctly sized penis. It takes a lot of time a patience to paint such small detail.

  • mzuvukile.mbanjana - 2012-06-07 15:19

    President Zuma is compromising himself and his government. He makes decisions and delay in communicating them. These decisions find a way out to the public , without being officially communicated the time he makes an official announcement, that is already known. It is not supposed to be like that. We need to first hear from him. What is happenning seems to suggest that Zuma is not in control of his own decisions. This opens the government to possible lawsuit. This is totally unacceptable.

      Glyn - 2012-06-07 16:26

      The answer to the paralyzed president is to vote for the DA in the next elections. If you do not like the DA then boycott the anc.

  • William - 2012-06-07 15:28

    Zuma has got no balls whatsoever!!! He is so terrified of getting in the bad books of his buddies!!! What a miserable coward!!

      gerhard.kress.3 - 2012-06-07 19:55

      Exactly, he is already shivering in his boots come Bloemfontein.

  • nigel.burgess.52 - 2012-06-07 15:28

    What a wop - oops!!!!!

  • Morne - 2012-06-07 15:29

    Is there really nobody in the government who tells JZ and his boys what an ass they are making of themselves or worse, the state of the nation? Pleeeeeease Mr. President, catch a bloody wake up already!

  • thulanit3 - 2012-06-07 15:35

    Who has fired Cele if the pres has not announced anything,,,the media publish a story and then they want to push the pres to go confirm it,,,this is silly,,,! It ok mr pres u must announce when u ready,,,who said they must publish unconfirmed stories,,,,those who try to push u are sick! Some people have so much verbal diarrhoea!

      Glyn - 2012-06-07 16:29

      Viva verbal diarrhea!

      Andrew - 2012-06-07 18:02

      Would you keep him employed?

      Nicolaas - 2012-06-07 19:51

      @DOMLANI, Can zoomer at the same time, when ever that will be also anoounced that you, DOMLANI is his priced most stupidist suppota!

  • Lourenzo - 2012-06-07 15:36

    Zuma is an ASS

  • siphiwom - 2012-06-07 15:39

    Bheki Cele you are fired, what is so difficult on this.

  • Patience - 2012-06-07 15:42

    I dont think people does respect our president.

      nigel.burgess.52 - 2012-06-07 15:45

      Noooooo. Do you think?

      Lourenzo - 2012-06-07 15:45

      Would you respect a Strip dancer?

      Lourenzo - 2012-06-07 15:46

      Would you a man who raped you sister or mother?

      Glyn - 2012-06-07 16:30

      You are a fast thinker!

      butch.poulter - 2012-06-07 17:25

      No S$^t Shurlock

      phosa.peter2 - 2012-06-07 17:40

      Respect others before then you ll earn a respect.

  • berni.venter - 2012-06-07 15:55

    Think it is time for a referendum (remember those) where the public votes on if they have confidence in the Government... This nonsense has to stop and NOW! What on earth happened to being servants of the people that elected them? What happened to HONOUR and DUTY! Solidly had enough of this spineless administration!

  • magoro.mags - 2012-06-07 15:57

    news24 comments are so predictable and raciallybased.One only have to read the comment to know the race of the person who posted it.You dont need to guess the colour of the skin of the people who "liked" and "disliked" your comment.Almost every article is dragged into a racial debate.This country's addiction to racism is a serious concern.As i am posting this comment,i have a feeling that my grammar will be more scrutinized way more that the message it carries

      Lourenzo - 2012-06-07 16:00

      You are a moron for saying that, i am black but Zuma is an ASS.

      magoro.mags - 2012-06-07 16:18

      Am neither a zuma fan and i also believe that the earlier he recuse himself from his position,the better.Zuma and his cronies are not corrupt and incompetent because they r black,but because they have developed a self-serving attitudes.If i have power i would de-politicize government straight away...sumthin like "Minister of finace= minimum of commerce degree as a minimum requirement.

      Johann - 2012-06-07 16:21

      Black or white get over yourself,it is about service delivery,and people taking pride in what they are doing.It is simple stop voting for people that is incopotent black or white get rid of idiots that are corrupt.They are not contributing just taking.

      butch.poulter - 2012-06-07 17:31

      So what you saying?

  • Johann - 2012-06-07 15:59

    why do people still vote for the anc , people that do wake up you are contributing to all this negativity.....anc you need to be replaced with competent people that can do their work with pride an honor and no corruption .....

  • Renard De Souza - 2012-06-07 15:59

    @ Magoro, shame do u feel cheated! Get a life seriously

  • Renard De Souza - 2012-06-07 16:06

    Phumi u seem to stand behind anybody , see the association or same mentality to those whom you defend. That's why they say winners breed winners and losers breed losers unfortunately u associate with the later. Viva 2 steps back viva

  • Glyn - 2012-06-07 16:26

    The answer to the paralyzed president is to vote for the DA in the next elections. If you do not like the DA then boycott the anc.

      magoro.mags - 2012-06-07 16:36

      I'd rather boycott the current anc leadership which is incompetent and corrupt,not the ANC as a whole.I mean it is still the same anc which produced leaders like mbeki and mandela.i still hav little hope that one day,with right leadership, things will cum back to normal

  • sandy.langenstrass - 2012-06-07 17:00

    Zuma is weak....he should join Malema and visit Winnie to have his nappy loose respect every time you don't do what has to be done.

  • Wayne Klasen - 2012-06-07 17:09

    The salary been paid to Cele is enough to pay 9 constable, that could be dedicated crime fighters, preventing crime. Now its paid to a man to sit at home while we wait for an announcement from the Presidency. This must be wasteful expenditure.

  • Tolo - 2012-06-07 17:55

    Ey zuma when are gonna be ready man.we don't have time to wait for us what is wat.

  • Shiko - 2012-06-07 18:47

    He motivated the lower ranks and encourage them to perform their duties with pride. Members are crying for him and they pray to hv someone like him. Sorry general, go well.

  • Shaun - 2012-06-07 19:24

    The problem with South Africa = 5million taxpayers and 25million voters. Fix this first and perhaps we can have constructive debates about accountability and governance. Until then, dumb voters will always be led astray by greedy self serving politicians, and JZ is currently the head boy of this pack!

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