Zuma 'not suitable' president

2012-12-07 16:28

Johannesburg - President Jacob Zuma must take a leave of absence until his name has been cleared, the DA said on Friday.

"The full story will come out eventually, but until then President Zuma must take a leave of absence from his office until these allegations have been proved or discounted," said Democratic Alliance MP James Selfe, who is also chairperson of the DA federal executive.

This followed a report in the Mail & Guardian on payments a KPMG draft report said were made on Zuma's behalf, and of various debts he owed banks.

Selfe said the report fully justified the need to review the decision to drop corruption charges against Zuma, which the party is attempting to do through a court.

"The DA calls on President Zuma to do the honourable thing and take a leave of absence from his office until all allegations against him have been dealt with."

The KPMG report was prepared ahead of Zuma’s high court appearance in 2006, when he was to appear on corruption charges, but it was not used once the charges were dropped.

Corruption charges

The DA had been trying to get the record of decision which led to the corruption charges being dropped, but Zuma's legal team and the National Prosecuting Authority (NPA) have used delaying tactics, Selfe said.

"The DA believes that we are quite possibly justified in going directly to court to review this decision without having to wait for the record," said Selfe.

Subject to legal advice, this is what they propose to do, he said.

According to the report, a 2006 forensic report on Zuma's finances revealed that former president Nelson Mandela gave him R1m to help settle his debts.

According to the 500-page KPMG report, Mandela came to Zuma's rescue in June 2005, a few days after he was fired as deputy president and after the NPA announced it would charge Zuma with corruption.

The report also says that a total of 783 payments were made to Zuma by his corruption-convicted, former financial adviser Schabir Shaik, amounting to more than R4m.


It says Zuma also benefited from several businessmen, including his nephew, Khulubuse Zuma, and Durban businessman Vivian Reddy.

The report says large commercial banks "bent over backwards" to accommodate Zuma because of his political position, writing off bad debt against his name.

Standard Bank reportedly wrote off a bond account as bad debt and Absa reportedly opened accounts in spite of his history, because of his "strategic positioning".

Asked for comment on the report, Standard Bank spokesperson Erik Larsen said: "Standard Bank is bound by law not to discuss clients' financial affairs. This applies to all the banks."

Absa spokesperson Patrick Wadula said it was attending to the request for comment.

A request for comment was also sent to FNB, where a senior official reportedly wrote that rules would be "bent a little" for Zuma's bond.

Fear of being stopped

Sello Hatang, spokesperson for the Nelson Mandela Centre of Memory, said he was not in a position to comment on Friday as he did not have the information contained in the KPMG report.

Comment from presidency spokesperson Mac Maharaj could not be immediately obtained as he was out of the country with Zuma, who was on a working visit to Tanzania.

An official in the presidency said only Maharaj could comment.

Mail & Guardian editor Nic Dawes said the paper ran the story without seeking comment first from Zuma or others named in it, contrary to their right of reply practice.

This was because the risk of being prevented from publishing it "was real".

The publication invited comment, which it said it would publish immediately.

The Christian Democratic Party's Rev Theunis Botha said Zuma could now no longer be considered a suitable candidate for president, and called for him to step down, and for a caretaker president to be appointed until the controversy around the funding of his home at Nkandla was resolved.

  • kalabafazi - 2012-12-07 16:31

    I totally disagree!!!! A leave of absence would imply that we still have to pay the Mofo whilst he is investigated. He should be arrested and dragged to the nearest prison cell.

      francois.snyman.98 - 2012-12-07 16:39

      It will never happen. He will now reign till Cheesus comes because after the Info Bill, he'll have the constitution amended and before we know it all our roads will be tolled and his Durban Benefactors will be laughing all the way to the bank. He is the puppet of the real rulers of this country. The rot runs much deeper than the press has the balls to publish.

      warren.rodel - 2012-12-07 17:02

      And throw that other thief back in prison, the Shibia Shaik prick/thief. Why is he playing golf in Durban? Huh? You ANC people are a bunch of retards!

      wesley.bischoff - 2012-12-07 17:09

      What good side? Oooh!! You mean his awesome ability to marry often and make babies whilst using public money... I forgot, woops

      nic.nomicos.3 - 2012-12-07 17:14

      @ssmonareng...GOOD SIDE ???? HAHAHAHAHA !!!!!.....

      mc.tyandre - 2012-12-07 17:16

      Ssmonareng: Enlighten us ?

      christelle.theron.3 - 2012-12-07 17:19

      I believe he is doing more good for change in the country whilst sitting in power. People are - barring some posters below - starting to see the light with the current leadership and they will not vote for the ANC because of the lack of accountability and ability to lead the country and her people to prosperity. The voters are maturing and the ANC is doing a good job distancing it own supporters.

      mc.tyandre - 2012-12-07 17:39

      SsMonareng: i think you need to start looking for your IQ.

      herman.burger.5 - 2012-12-07 17:40


      morne.demeillon - 2012-12-07 17:53

      Eish SS, still not convinced boet? I guess when one is brainwashed one cannot be convinced!

      thato.seloane - 2012-12-07 18:15

      Hehehe, that's like asking a crack addict to rather smoke Craven A

      rowan.clark.10 - 2012-12-07 22:55

      If anybody else had these notches on their track record where would they be?Now be truthful.

      JohnB - 2012-12-08 04:16

      @SS, ""The President single-handedly rolled out ARVS and thus saved millions of lives."" Yours was probably one of them.

      malcolm.james.macleod - 2012-12-08 10:01

      Single handedly rolled out ARVS? How on earth did you come up with such absolute nonsense?

      jesibelle.krueger - 2012-12-08 12:24

      The reality is that Polokwane 2007 was the most profound political coup in the history of SA (ever). It was a mafia take-over of the most profound proportions. None of this should come as a surprise. SA's entire Constitution and its legal 'checks-and-balances' are flawed - hence the reason such a 'coup' was possible and will likely continue if rational SAcans do not take dramatic action. Zuma is not a politician (let alone a president). He is a gangster and a terrorist that has zero economic worth. He is a goon without a useful brain and the little one he has sits in his pants. He is a chauvinist, psychopathic, sex-addicted, fraudster, thief, murderer, racist, pathological liar, largely illiterate, with the intellect- and reasoning prowess of a two-year old child (and I am not exaggerating - analysts who have dealt with him confirmed this verity). OMG - is this what you call a 'president of a country'..? Zuma is the worst in SA's entire history. Not the worst the NP could dish up came even close to this freak. He should be locked away, in the deepest dungeon on earth for ever more, or he should go the way HF Verwoerd did. SA simply cannot afford him anymore - the country's economy is on a Zimbabwe-highway-to-hell. If the DA cannot get rid of him before the middle of next year - then a more decisive action is needed. There are a number of individuals inside the ANC that will partake – even if only in secret. GET IT..?

  • sharmay.thuynsma - 2012-12-07 16:32

    He should have stepped down before he was elected... Nice example of ethics he gives the country. bleh.

      fanie.viljoen.73 - 2012-12-07 16:39

      Stepping down is suicide, ask his pal Robbert.

      rob.bancroft.94 - 2012-12-07 22:10

      Selfe says he must do the honourable thing and step down. Honourable is not in his vocabulary, so why use a word like that!

  • craig.decks - 2012-12-07 16:33

    The Scary thing reading an article on mugabe and how long he has been in power sick, twisted and corrupt as he is .. Why would SA be any different? Truly hope impeachment proceedings start soonest!

      nic.nomicos.3 - 2012-12-07 17:10


  • retlaw.yelmoc - 2012-12-07 16:33

    Who came up with that brilliant conclusion? ROFLMAO!!

  • michael.kleber.376 - 2012-12-07 16:34

    Oh please he will never take leave of absence , he should never have been in this position in the first place he should still be in jail and no we will never know the truth about nkandla if they can make corruption charges go away then nkandlagate will too be swept under the carpet .

  • JohnDough - 2012-12-07 16:37

    He should rather just leave, permanently.

  • karel.vanrensburg.56 - 2012-12-07 16:40

    He will probably keep his post until it is pried out of his fingers in jail. The ANC is all used to crooks these days to disavow him.

  • Justin - 2012-12-07 16:42

    Mr Pravin Gordhan and Oup from SARS - make sure that you get you Donations tax from all concerned with penalties and 89quat interest on top. Donor and Donee are joint and severally liable for these taxes. If this was anyone of us we would take it in the ... from you. We should all be equal. The "Last Comic standing" must pay his share

  • vandeventer.sarel - 2012-12-07 16:43

    Some of his suporters says why now? Are u stupid? These charges were brought against him in 2005 already. This has been dragging on for to long, he should be arrested!!!

  • Khofu - 2012-12-07 16:44

    He is not a man of honour, so he can't do the honourable thing. You expect the impossible maybe.

  • sandor.l.varga - 2012-12-07 16:47

    President ??? My back side. Corrupt uneducated bastard.

  • andre.vandeventer.16 - 2012-12-07 16:47

    Zuma is a scary being. I deliberately refrain from calling him a person.

      warren.rodel - 2012-12-07 17:17

      I call him what he is, a thief!

  • solanga.maluleke - 2012-12-07 16:49

    Shower cant make you clean bra Zuma just go on holiday and stay overseas for ever to avoid all this.

      nic.nomicos.3 - 2012-12-07 16:57

      Yes, tell him....

      warren.rodel - 2012-12-07 17:18

      Yes leave this country you thief, I hope your plane crashes.

  • terrence.holtzhausen - 2012-12-07 16:49

    Go on DA get rid of this thief and his corrupt government, well the people stand behind you!

      zapadela.tistarocha - 2012-12-07 17:10

      unfortunately ....not enough people...aag shame...arme kind.

      terrence.holtzhausen - 2012-12-07 18:06

      LoL zapadela my man cant wait for the elections 2014, I feel sorry for you though as there is still allot of time for the DA to bring out all the corruption in the ANC cabinet HAHAHAHA .!.

      zapadela.tistarocha - 2012-12-07 18:27

      Come 3014, The DA are their own worst enemies......

  • muke.matshaba - 2012-12-07 16:51

    Somebody didnt call him a dictator for nothing.

      warren.rodel - 2012-12-07 17:19

      the spear, yes he is a dicktator.

  • gary.doyle.520 - 2012-12-07 16:51

    Jacob Zuma's life and lies are testiment to the fact that he's an absolute rubish and an insult of a president. This man couldn't lead a herd of goats with honour and dignity let alone a country.

  • stuart.lidstone.1 - 2012-12-07 16:53

    Really annoyed at STD, ABSA & FNB, I sweat buckets to pay my way and they cuddle up to reported crooked politicians... Makes my blood boil!

      Justin - 2012-12-07 17:07

      Use Capitec people, STD are big mates with Ramaphosa as well. ABSA are tight with treasury and FNB "How can we help you - help yourself"

      Justin - 2012-12-07 17:09

      Nedbank are good because their Charirman has guts to criticise things and stimulate debate with regards to the leadership vacum

      malcolm.james.macleod - 2012-12-08 10:23

      Justin - Maybe their chairman should focus less on politics and more on his bank, as a bank they are an absolute pathetic joke.

  • zapadela.tistarocha - 2012-12-07 16:53

    And I suppose Godzille is............Give up a break. Off to your eggnog and fruitcake, We will see you DA clowns next year.

      nic.nomicos.3 - 2012-12-07 16:55

      REALLY ?????

      zapadela.tistarocha - 2012-12-07 17:09

      yes please just give us a break from the DA American Fedocracy style politicking.

      warren.rodel - 2012-12-07 17:20

      no why, are you scared?

      zapadela.tistarocha - 2012-12-07 17:26

      Scared for the DA...yessss The DA Leadership is a joke to take the path they have chosen. They will never rule RSA.

      wesley.bischoff - 2012-12-07 17:32

      @zapadela America's democracy works. But they are not perfect.. What African country is truly democratic? Maybe Liberia is on the way. It seems the ANC and its supporters don't know the true meaning of a democracy. That place up North... used to be a successful country... That is now what you call a DICTATORSHIP.

      zapadela.tistarocha - 2012-12-07 17:54

      RSA is a true Democracy. Maybe we should have reversed the entire Apartheid regime, maybe then you would understand the Democracy you enjoy today. Up North , I hope you don't mean Zimbabwe....cos these poor people were worst off than us under Colonialism.

      wesley.bischoff - 2012-12-07 18:02

      Ah there is no point. He is a mindless sheep. Zapadela, I can tell you are educated, yet you remain stupid. It has nothing to do with skin colour. You are stupid because you have been indoctrinated.

      seanrossouwslr - 2012-12-07 18:29

      The DA will never rule SA, you are right! Because their objective is not to rule SA! They want to govern SA. Thats the difference between a democratic government and a dictatorship. One rules with one big boss up top stealing and bullying everyone else.

      zapadela.tistarocha - 2012-12-07 18:29

      Wes, Nice one. Yes Maria, I am a Gardner over the weekend however I am a NZ qualified Civil engineer during the working week.

      jakkie.jvr - 2012-12-07 20:00

      Zapadela your comments are very ironic given your (claimed) background. Troll?

      cyril.mpanza.1 - 2012-12-08 15:58

      zapadela - be a man. Admit the ANC Zuma is a failure.

      nic.nomicos.3 - 2012-12-08 17:58

      Eggnog and pap hands-down...

  • michael.jackwood - 2012-12-07 16:55

    Classical example of how DA draws conclusion from media stories, people i dont know how many times we have to remind you that this is a constitutional state, this is different from apartheid state that unfortunately many of your parents were administrators thereof and you grew up under, things dont work the same way anymore, why dont you go to nearest police stations and lay criminal charges againts our president. We dont find people guilty in the court of public opinion. What stops you from laying charges, its free afterall.

      Justin - 2012-12-07 17:04

      You are such a wet!! It's perfectly acceptable to find him guilty in the court of public opinion, just like many other democracies around the world (called freedom of speech). And they are not drawing only conclusions from media stories, they have copy of the audit report/s from what i have read - The fact that they are leaked is neither here not there. Maybe before you go on about the constitution, go and tell the ANC MP and Cabinet Ministers - who don't actually understand it themselves.

      phae.rayden - 2012-12-07 17:08

      Who is we, and what evidence would any of us hold to back up laying criminal charges against the president? Any info we have is from the media. Zuma's obvious crooked and shady past must be acted on and all power to the DA if they manage to stop this madman before Mangaung (Place of Cheaters). Your advice seems pretty questionable and odd.

      michael.jackwood - 2012-12-07 17:18

      President Zuma is your president, whether you like it or not, he is going to be your president for another six years, Helen Zille is the premier, only a premiers, she report to Zuma about Western Cape affairs with othere eight premiers, incase she havent told you so. Wake up! When Zuma enters the office she stands on her two feet? She knows she cant reamin seated, so only you her followers dont respect the president.

      zapadela.tistarocha - 2012-12-07 17:28

      Well said Michael.

      1amAlan - 2012-12-07 17:38

      No michael. A president is a civil servant. A civil servant is meant to serve the people, not his own selfish agenda. Idiots like you will continue to support them because you are incapable of thinking or even seeing what is being so clearly put in front of your face.

      herman.burger.5 - 2012-12-07 18:06

      You are right, no one stops anyone from laying charges but the ANC will stop the charges from going to court through their interference with the NPA. Surely you know this? And soon they will stop the gathering of evidence through their Secrecy Bill. Surely you know this too?

      phae.rayden - 2012-12-07 18:50

      I certainly have no respect for this man, and unless it was guarenteed I would go to jail, I would refuse to stand for him. Do you understand the concept of an opposition party? If so what is you problem, they are doing a fine job under the circumstances. In any law abiding reasonable country, Jacob and most of his cronies would have stepped down in shame at their deceit and dishonesty, but no not ours, they just steal more money and build walls around themselves. I can only deduct his followers suffer from pimp worship, its the only thing that makes sense.

      nic.nomicos.3 - 2012-12-08 17:48

      Classical example of a......poephol...

      bryan.coulter.180 - 2013-01-20 11:13

      What a sad, unintelligent conclusion. That fact we DO have a constitutional state requires everybody adhered to the rule of law. Being the president does not exempt you whatsoever, in fact, requires, as the first citizen of the republic, you do do everything in you power to ensure the constitution is not used as your personal ass wipe.

  • sounesc - 2012-12-07 16:56

    Funny how its all Indians that are financially supporting him.

      zapadela.tistarocha - 2012-12-07 17:06

      Where did you retrieve this gem from ??

      herman.burger.5 - 2012-12-07 18:17

      This Zapadela character needs a picture, preferably drawn with a wax crayon.

      zapadela.tistarocha - 2012-12-07 18:34

      If the rage against the Machine is inappropriate you may send me a few of your crayon images. I may choose one out of pity..........

      nic.nomicos.3 - 2012-12-08 17:42

      @Zapadela...the breeding machine ? HMMM ??

  • johnny.august.31 - 2012-12-07 16:57

    This ANC is going to split after Mangaung MARK MY WORDS

      zapadela.tistarocha - 2012-12-07 17:06

      100 years and counting

      warren.rodel - 2012-12-07 17:26

      100 better years after this ANC falls

      wesley.bischoff - 2012-12-07 17:45

      82 years of being a struggle party ja... 18 years experience in being an unsuccessful governing party.

      nic.nomicos.3 - 2012-12-08 17:37 will be counting the roots and seeds to see who will be fed and who will more's gone..

  • ian.robertreid - 2012-12-07 16:59

    JZ? smoke and fire~ maybe u will have 2clear yr office?

  • edward.coote - 2012-12-07 17:00

    He should be in court and, if found guilty, he should be in gaol!

      zapadela.tistarocha - 2012-12-07 17:07


      Nicky Wims Ndlovu - 2012-12-07 17:29

      to hell with stupid diggings into zuma s life why now is it because he is about to be elected in mangaung?

      wesley.bischoff - 2012-12-07 17:46

      Gaol (synonym for jail or prison)

      herman.burger.5 - 2012-12-07 18:21

      Zapadela will find that "goal" is indeed also applicable to the criminal justice system as suggested by Edward and not just football. Don't try to be clever. You are making an even bigger fool of yourself.

      zapadela.tistarocha - 2012-12-07 18:35

      Animals are clever , the correct discriptive adjective utilized for Humans is intelligent.

  • bophelo.malapela - 2012-12-07 17:03

    What a load of bs, in terms of which sec in the constitution are they proposing this nonsense. In this age of political judicialisation why don't they run to the Courts

      herman.burger.5 - 2012-12-07 18:23

      Trying hard but the ANC is trying just as hard to obstruct justice through the NPA.

      nic.nomicos.3 - 2012-12-08 17:34

      Bophelo....eish broer...

      hein.huyser - 2012-12-08 23:32

      @bop, so we are all equal before the law, but some are more equal?

  • nokwanda.ngcobo.71 - 2012-12-07 17:06

    So after all Mbeki was right to fire him, I think ANC of today lack morals,enthics and honour. The president must step aside and the full invistigation. Now is the time that we stand against this nonsense

      nic.nomicos.3 - 2012-12-08 17:26

      @Jamba...too many skelms hiding too many things...

  • davy.botha - 2012-12-07 17:11

    The ANC should recall him and criminal charges should be laid and the law should take it's cause. That said with these puppets that surround and support this moegoe that will probably never happen and this then means that opposition parties must take the route of our slow grinding justice system!

  • sipho.zuma.796 - 2012-12-07 17:13

    Headline of the year. Couldn't believe seeing his clearly extremely well educated daughter on tv today and how she still supports him and the ANC. Just shows that greed overrides brains when it comes to badly behaved people

      lee.brand.73 - 2012-12-07 17:25

      Well educated? Wonder which school she went to and which buddy paid the fees? Wish i had buddies like that who expect nothing in return....

      nic.nomicos.3 - 2012-12-08 17:23

      Ready....I mean REDDY...steady...GO!!!...

  • phillip.mvundura.5 - 2012-12-07 17:18

    ronald.vantoorn.9, thats exactly the type of politics I called stupid... its doesn't DA even a pen, nor gain them any numbers, just serve to polarize the nation... no mergers at all. The I ask what have they achieved? Nothing, but only alienated them further into poltical oblivion and defeat the purpose of official opposition party or party in waiting. Lack of direction, maturity, you name it rules wildly in DA. If you also check the ANC in the western cape, they are quite sleep, they have failed to expose DA core corruption. To name it just an ice tip: small sections of road repairs or construction, which in reality are supposed to take 3-4 weeks take more than 10 months. Tell me who foots that bill for that long? Does anybody bothers to check the original tender contract, NO.Nothing. So what is tha DA?

      ronald.vantoorn.9 - 2012-12-07 17:37

      Philip, you misunderstood! Its not about politics! Its not about polarizing political parties! The president of south africa represents all south africans! The masses deserve an honest leader who cares about poverty hunger education etc!

  • craig.thom.376 - 2012-12-07 17:19

    his been absent for the past 4 years any way so what's all the blow about?

  • ronald.vantoorn.9 - 2012-12-07 17:22

    Unfortunately loyal cadres will keep on supporting him! They argue that it is a DA thing, racist plot etc. Not a single rational argument as to why he is suitable!

  • douglas.reid.921 - 2012-12-07 17:26

    Cadres don't go to jail, winnie got convicted and never went to jail. Zuma will never go to jail. Malema will never go to jail. The anc will be in power forever. If you don't like it go live somewhere else. If you want to know where we are headed just take a look next door, zimbabwe, mozambique, namibia etc.

  • maqhinga.mchunu - 2012-12-07 17:28

    It is my strong conviction that if DA had its own court it would hv long ago put our president behind bars! Genuinely speaking, DA can govern this country by jst putting everyone they suspect behind bars without asking them to plead!

      Erna - 2012-12-07 17:37

      This is not the DA publishing the evidence but the media. The DA is merely responding, which as the opposition it is entitled to do. How much more evidence do you need before you will believe that your president is unsuitable to lead this country? He is an embarrassment and immoral on so many levels.

  • Makhavele - 2012-12-07 17:31

    We should not worry if Presedent Jacob Zuma is re-elected in Mangaung later this month. Let's make sure that ANC will not rule this beautiful Rainbow Nation country in 2014. Let's have a confidence in the DA becuase the future this Nation. I believe that DA won't bring Aparthied again. DA is not corrupt and it do better than other parties. We cannot put Democracy on the table and eat it. We need a partie that will give people decent for better living, a partie that will speed up service delievery and fight corruption against government officials. I know where I'm coming, I know the history of this country and I am black Xhosa man.

      wesley.bischoff - 2012-12-07 17:53

      ^ great, informed, objective comment :)

      TaniaSandraSteyn - 2012-12-07 22:03

      At least we should give them a chance. They certainly cannot do worse. What they are going to do about the lack of work ethics amongst the civil servants, is a problem that I don't believe even the DA can solve.

      nic.nomicos.3 - 2012-12-08 16:23

      Well said...

      tielman.karovsky - 2012-12-12 15:26

      We could be more businesslike with the civil service. Performance related income for a start. And No Bonuses for wrecking what has been entrusted to you ( S.A.A. Escom etc etc)

  • valerie.hancock.102 - 2012-12-07 17:33

    The spokesman for Nelson Mandela Center of Memory says he doesn't remember.

      nic.nomicos.3 - 2012-12-08 16:17

      Brilliant one Valerie, you deserve a Bells !!!...

  • douglas.reid.921 - 2012-12-07 17:33

    Cadres don't go to jail, winnie got convicted and never went to jail. Zuma will never go to jail. Malema will never go to jail. The anc will be in power forever. If you don't like it go live somewhere else. If you want to know where we are headed just take a look next door, zimbabwe, mozambique, namibia etc.

      lee.brand.73 - 2012-12-07 17:34

      Yes. In a nutshell.

      wesley.bischoff - 2012-12-07 18:09

      @phillip Please provide evidence

      nic.nomicos.3 - 2012-12-08 16:18


      tielman.karovsky - 2012-12-12 15:32

      Hey doug reid 921 you're way off course. Malema MUST NOT go to jail. It'll only mandelalise him. So lets see what the ANC does with the retard?

  • lee.brand.73 - 2012-12-07 17:33

    The destruction of JZ as president will initiate the destruction of the anc and lead to the destruction of democracy in SA. Why? Because at some point the rat in the corner is going to turn and say stuff you all - we are in charge and we will do as we please. They will pi$$ on the constitution and put ttheir critics in jail.

      nic.nomicos.3 - 2012-12-08 16:13

      And that unfortunately is the scary truth....African democracy at it's best....

      tielman.karovsky - 2012-12-12 15:33

      It's all happening already.

  • ricus.nieuwoudt.9 - 2012-12-07 17:34


  • jade.lounge - 2012-12-07 17:36

    I just find it so hard to believe why people still keep voting these idiots in to power. It seems as though people just don't care if we end up like Zimbabwe. Maybe our shocking standard of education has something to do with this madness...

  • john.s.stalwart - 2012-12-07 17:44

    For all we know it was superflous and stupid for the ANC to let a man of Zuma'statute to replace President Mbeki,but what is the DA trying to achieve? Once I thought it was a reputable and credible party but now they have lost track completely,I personally don't like President Zuma's leadership style but I find it coward and stupid to be so desparate to replace him so much as to dig to his past,why not for once allow a guilt conscience to take its course if Zuma is really involved in all that mess,why try so hard to sink a man who's already sinking in his own pit,do we want to be called a nation which unconstitutionally removed their voted president,didn't we at all know when he got coronated that he had over 700 corruption charges pending against him of which were dropped in honor of the presidential office? It's lawful to impeach him for breaching his official vows and I support that,but to try and dig every dirt to get rid of him is just childish because we all know that he's the worst outstanding corrupt president in the world.The only people who can get rid of Sir Zuma are the ANC's delegates but unfortunately so they are vehemently backing him while the expected contestant is quiet,we are in a mess it's admittable but my word of advice to the DA is that don't use an individual's weaknesses to discredit a party,the ANC is not wicked but the people who currently run it are,so do the right thing and campaign with exhibition of the cleannes and beauty of your party. You don't seek guests'attention to your own party by telling them how ugly the birthday boy in the other party is,it's up to them to decide,so DA stop making noise and gather loyalists silently and reputably with all honesty,Zuma's sins shall follow him.

  • chris.phago - 2012-12-07 17:48

    Corrupt president

  • Peter Zylstra - 2012-12-07 17:51

    Give us some news we don't know. We all know this slime ball zuma is a corrupt bastard!

      jakkie.jvr - 2012-12-07 20:24

      Yes, yes Zapadela your attempt of a clever comment gone wrong (yet again) is noted, time read the definition of the word first. For your own sake, stop trying to prove that you are "intellectually superior" you are just busy painting a large target on your back and it would have been funny were it not so pathetic...

  • lincoln.nkosi - 2012-12-07 17:53

    Why when a report about corruption is out there and pretend on it by burying our heads in the sand. People like Mthokozisi and Smonareng must stop being hypocrites. I am an ANC member and we are sacrificng the ANC principles and its autonomy for Zuma. What does Zuma has against the ANC that people are bent on changing the subject and telling us about rolling out ARV's. What does it has to do with the corruption charges. Mthokozisi if its lies why is Zuma not going to court to disprove these lies?? I will tell you why, he knows he is guilty. We are talking about a man who prevented diaries from being obtained in Mauritius and now he is delaying the court processes through his patronage from the NPA. Jiba has long been on the defence of Zuma and Radebe will do everything in his power to ensure Zuma does not go to court. Malema is hving his day in court, i'm so pleased he says he wants to go to court. Please try and encourage Zuma to also do the same, we want these so called lies to stop.

      terence.wessels - 2012-12-07 19:04

      You speak sense and I understand you. Thank you for opening my eyes. Are we doomed now? I see no way to stop what I call the Zanufication of the ANC?

      hein.huyser - 2012-12-08 23:46

      @Lincoln, "so called lies"? So called using of taxes to sort himself and his family out? So called non functioning svhool system (13% maths), so called failing municipalities etc etc etc? Quite real if you ask me

  • Gert van Coller - 2012-12-07 17:58

    ag shame Thabani. It's not allegations. It's facts!

  • lee.brand.73 - 2012-12-07 17:59

    To Thabane and all my other learned ANC friends. Help me to understand why JZ is such a great president. Write down what he has done FOR HIS PEOPLE in the last two years. Try to keep it under 1500 words!

      lee.brand.73 - 2012-12-07 18:06

      Dont be lazy now and just give a thumbs down. Show us some balls and tell us about the great things that JZ has done for us all. I will be happy if you can come up with 3.

      sam.ntshangase - 2012-12-07 18:10

      @Lee,he has plan to bring our land back like Mugabe did

      melikaya.grootboom - 2012-12-07 18:20

      Sam ntshangase you dumbest black man, do you really think what mugabe did is good for Zimbabwe... You really need to grow up and stop being a dumb ass.. I'm a black man and I stick with the truth not color of my skin.. Grow up pls

      melikaya.grootboom - 2012-12-07 18:20

      Sam ntshangase you dumbest black man, do you really think what mugabe did is good for Zimbabwe... You really need to grow up and stop being a dumb ass.. I'm a black man and I stick with the truth not color of my skin.. Grow up pls

      sam.ntshangase - 2012-12-07 19:09

      @Melikaya,you are small boy read stop listening to haters

      zapadela.tistarocha - 2012-12-07 19:20

      Grootboom has a kleinkop. Zim failed due to Western sanctions. Mugabe is an African leader with balls however his greed eventually tainted him.

      sam.ntshangase - 2012-12-07 19:37

      @Zapadela,melikaya is one of those blindfolded by whites he must read,this week Ian Smiths farm has been seized and donated to university for research purpose I don't know what it say to him about that when blacks will benefit academically from a land possesd by selfish monster,sad with black man sad

      nic.nomicos.3 - 2012-12-08 15:59

      @Melikaya.Grootboom...have a Bells !!! Peace be with you...

  • leka.mad - 2012-12-07 18:03

    Yerrrr, come 2020 my kids will have interesting history lessons. Forget Jan van Rieebeck there'll be an Arms deal, Nkandlagate, Financial Mismanagement (this will need to be a few chapters), the ANCYL and their shenanigans. I also see a movie about JZ. Trick will be deciding whether it'll be a drama or a comedy.

  • justin.b.whittaker - 2012-12-07 18:06

    Thabani...another moronic zuma sheep

  • danny.levin.33 - 2012-12-07 18:14

    He deserves another term.... IN PRISON, @#R$%ing THIEF

      machoene.kaizer - 2012-12-07 18:35

      Lol,do u thnk is gonna Jon

  • Mbuso Siera - 2012-12-07 18:15

    National elections should be held every after 100 years....nd only ANC internal elections every 5 yrs....

      terence.wessels - 2012-12-07 18:59

      Chop. You probably can't afford the wooden begging bowl you'll need soon.....ignorance is bliss I suppose.

      nic.nomicos.3 - 2012-12-08 15:47

      @Terence soon there will be no wood to make the begging bowl, he will have to make one with Africa's easily accessible mineral...MUD...

  • mrp721 - 2012-12-07 18:18

    Ha ha ha, JZ take a leave of absence, yeah right, like that's ever gonna happen...

  • mawandewonderman.mkuba - 2012-12-07 18:19

    This is big.