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Zuma proposes 'innovative' new land plan

2012-10-22 23:07

Pretoria - President Jacob Zuma proposed a new land reform plan in Pretoria on Monday evening.

"This is an innovative proposal that needs to be tested," he told the first annual general meeting of the African Farmers' Association of SA (Afasa).

The plan proposed a district-based approach to land reform and its financing.

"It proposes that each district should establish a district land reform committee where all stakeholders are involved," Zuma said.

"This committee will be responsible for identifying 20% of the commercial agricultural land in the district and giving commercial farmers the option of assisting its transfer to black farmers."

Implementation of this land reform proposal would include five steps.

Firstly, it would entail identifying land readily available from land already in the market; land where the farmer was under severe financial pressure; land held by an absentee landlord willing to exit; and land in a deceased estate.

"In this way, land can be found without distorting markets."

Secondly, the state would buy the land at 50% of its market value. This, Zuma said, would be closer to its fair productive value.

The current owner's shortfall would be made up by cash or in-kind contributions from the commercial farmers in the district who volunteered to participate.

Thirdly, in exchange, commercial farmers would be protected from losing their land and gain black economic empowerment status.

"This should remove the uncertainty and mistrust that surrounds land reform and the related loss of investor confidence.

Fourthly, a stepped-up programme of financing should also be created, Zuma said. This would involve the Treasury, the Land Bank, and established white farmers.

"The model envisages that the cost of land reform be spread between all stakeholders.

"It also envisages new financial instruments being designed for the purpose of facilitating land reform." These could include 40-year mortgages at preferential rates for new entrants into the markets, as well as land bonds that white farmers and others could invest in.

The fifth step was increasing investment in agricultural research and development.

"We also need to use the investment more strategically."

Zuma said the government looked forward to ongoing engagement with Afasa.

"So that we can develop and harness our vision for agriculture and food security together."

Comments
  • luke.slade - 2012-10-22 23:20

    Even if this was a good idea...Msholozi doesn't have the ability to make it succeed, or appoint people to make it succeed, or ensure that the money is available to make it succeed...In fact, he really should just resign

      merven.halo - 2012-10-23 07:28

      Sadly, who ever replace him will have a much more military approach to the land problem. You must remember, the ANC bred a entitlement mindset and now they must find a way to feed it, otherwise they are going to sit with a civil war on their sticky hands. That is the problem with promising things that you can not deliver on.

  • bennie.kruger.5 - 2012-10-22 23:22

    First fix the F*&^%-ups you made , like Zebediela, Lisbon estate first before engaging in more embarrasing "farm operations".

  • lsfreak - 2012-10-22 23:27

    So in short, each district must look for 1/5 of the farm land which can be bought for 1/2 it's value and given to a "farmer" to produce nothing if the other farmers won't teach them. Does anyone smell a fish here... Man BEE is gonna work now ;)

      maureen.walton1 - 2012-10-24 09:55

      "The current owner's shortfall would be made up by cash or in-kind contributions from the commercial farmers in the district who volunteered to participate." All the farmers in the district will be out of pocket because they have to make up the shortfall of 50% of market value. ... and then you get BEE points. Yippee, what a wonderful bargain!!

  • tony.vanniekerk.35 - 2012-10-22 23:27

    Nothing about actually identifying people who would like to farm and have the ability to be trained as farmers and then developing them into productive farmers. Unless that is done first, any land reform plan will lead to disaster.

      mzwandile.sazona.3 - 2012-10-23 00:00

      Good point Tony, otherwise this can be another scheme for government officials.

      merven.halo - 2012-10-23 07:49

      "Nothing about actually identifying people who would like to farm" Of course it will be ANC cadres that fought the struggle to riches.

      art5SA - 2012-10-24 05:01

      Smells like a "ZIMBOLAND MOVE" to me.... The old MK Vet's will end up as "FARMERS"....They will stop paying back their loans, because the land will just lie there, without any developement, other than a village or two of squatters...whom will be their EXTENDED FAMILIES.... and the odd mealie or sunflower will be seen growing around the odd hut or two... But check the NAVARA BAKKIE and LAND ROVER will be parked for ALL to see.. This proposal is a joke.... and will BACK FIRE with SERIOUS REPERCUSSIONS! WATCH THIS SPACE!!!

  • geronimo.feather - 2012-10-22 23:29

    Sounds like a pile of stinking hogwash to me. Other "commercial farmers" [read: whiteys] in the "district" must fork out 50% of the farm value in cash or in-kind? And the "new owners" pay not a cent and therefore have no incentive to make the land productive to guarantee their "investment" that never was? I envisage crumbling farm infrastructure, fertile land lying fallow, perhaps a few mielies and chickens scratching in the dirt. A dust bowl. And the country will be 20% more hungry (but at least the "imbalances of the past" or at least 20% of them will be restored, right? Pah. Go on. Call me a racist.

      Thanduxolo Galada - 2012-10-22 23:42

      Nothing racial just you expressing your concern and opinion on the matter.

      cliff.slabbert - 2012-10-23 00:08

      You are a realist not a racist Gironimo. Give something to someone for free, that they have not earned and they will almost never look after it and appreciate it.

      merven.halo - 2012-10-23 07:30

      What bothers me is the fact that food prices are sky rocketing in the next couple of months, what will happen if we loose more commercial farmers? Everybody that got a yard must start planting their own crops.

  • aj.oosthuizen.7 - 2012-10-22 23:31

    I still don't get why this is still happening...we saw what happened to Zimbabwe, and yet.......im at loss of words....the ANC is in such a big heap of %$@# right now, but they still have land reclamation in mind, greedy a$rsholes...

      jim.dickson2 - 2012-10-23 05:54

      Ideology. Nothing else except empty promises to the illiterate masses in order to steal their votes again.

      merven.halo - 2012-10-23 07:34

      We hope so Jim, but reality is, somewhere in the near future the land issue is going to become a serious problem and none of the ANC 'leaders' got the intelligence or balls to handle the masses. I predict that there will be a increase of farm attacks in the future, the ANC has been scaring and intimidating the farmers for years now.

  • liveby.thesword.1 - 2012-10-22 23:37

    the anc has failed dismally with their land reform program up to date(even with the help of loads of government funding) and now they want to push the proverbial envelope even more.....one can only associate this idiotic thinking with the anc.......maybe the anc will attain vision in 250 years time.....but for now,they aint got none.....

  • moriri.mosweu - 2012-10-22 23:43

    What possessed Malema is busy with Zuma now..

      ntebu.mthi - 2012-10-23 12:52

      Both Malema and Zuma are populist. Populism gets you votes in SA. Until SA politics are about facts, hard evidence, systematic monitoring and evaluation and accountability like in mature democracies, Malema and Zuma will always thrive.

  • Stlouis Heidtmann - 2012-10-22 23:44

    if land reform farmers dont use the land properly then those farms should be sold to commercial farmers at 50% as well ill say thats fair then we might see some new farmers actually farm and not sit on the farm breeding 20 children and make them work for commercial farmer next door while the induna sits at home with his six cows four mielies and ten chickens while his land become worthless and your theory mr zuma will kill food security whats the figures again land reform farms 280000 commercial farms only 35000 food securityis already a problem showerhead

      shirley.brun.3 - 2012-10-22 23:46

      Two-headed snake!

      merven.halo - 2012-10-23 07:39

      I don't see why every one is stressing, SA will follow the African way. The farmers will finally give their farms, the ANC followers will screw it up, we will all go on a quick diet, and in 20 years from now they will advertise to whites to come and farm again to save the people.

      vicker.man.3 - 2012-10-23 08:51

      Well said Merven. The only people who are getting uptight about the deteriorating situation in SA are those that actually still think there is a chance of halting and reversing the decay. Accept and embrace the fact that SA is only now starting to settle into it's natural African state.

      wwrer.ww - 2012-10-23 09:26

      The tiny minority was not strong enough to modernize the majority.

  • pjzaayman - 2012-10-22 23:45

    Firstly, most blacks want land for subsistence farming, not commercial farming. Secondly, in the light of farm murders, how significant is the words: "land in a deceased estate", or am I synical?

      geronimo.feather - 2012-10-22 23:53

      "Secondly, in the light of farm murders, how significant is the words: "land in a deceased estate", or am I synical? [sic]" Very, very astute observation......

      lsfreak - 2012-10-23 00:25

      We missed that one...

      tasmee.hylkema - 2012-10-23 21:02

      wow! thats scary! Very significant observation, this thieving liar is more dangerous than we give him credit for!

  • Rhulani - 2012-10-22 23:45

    Zuma must just stop stealing Malema ideas. Farm is private property and no one is allowed just to mumble for other people belongings. You leave farmers alone with their properties and mind your own firm of your family in Nkandla. Whites are also humanbeing who worked hard for their farming investment.\r\n\r\nI disagree with you ANC. Deal with your political bankrupts and continue with your corruptions because soon someone on top of the country is about to go down. \r\n\r\nPlease leave farmers alone and let them sell their properties out off theirs own will.

      cindy.dunn.9 - 2012-10-23 00:24

      Why can't we protest together. Its our country????

      christopher.caine.71 - 2012-10-23 01:42

      IF government pays half the land value and the black guy who wants to farm pays the other half, I have no problem. As long as the guy is a farmer so he knows what the hell he's doing. Govt has to either provide training for these guys who want to be farmers or only let guys who have helped manage farms for years to use the program. But to just say here have a free farm is completely retarded.

      Rhulani - 2012-10-23 06:56

      @ thulanit3 - my first and last question is.... Who is holding the titledeeds?\r\nDo you ever own any property, if you do then what are your sole rights in accordance to the \SA Bill of Rights\?\r\nI still feel that we both equal and should have equal rights in our country (common law). Whites they never came to you and ask shares or steal your shebeen ownerships.\r\nLet's farmers do theirs business their own way.\r\nIf you wise you and your president you were smart enough, you were not gonna direct point whites farmers, instead you were gonna grant them with billions funding capacity that they may also apply for it out of their own will. I think my wisdom is not economically challenged and not abusing racial powers.\r\nWhite farmers, as Zuma pointed in his statement, have beneficiaries, and those beneficiaries are their children, and those children are still YOUTHs of this country and please kist let th invest their own way. They never stole any land from you. You born yesterday and those farms where here manufacturing braai wors for you already. \r\n\r\nIf you still feel that some farmers stole your land, why can't you just come out and point those farmers and deal with them through legal process.\r\n\r\nYour wisdom is mentally challenged and corruptly motivated and luck of economic reasoning, you have wisdom that doesn't understand the freedom. Stop commenting about freedom when you don't free other people(farmers).

      tasmee.hylkema - 2012-10-23 21:03

      Rhulani, your comment is so refreshing. Tired of all the doom and gloom, I dont see how the constitution will allow for this kind of robbery either!

      TaniaSandraSteyn - 2012-10-24 01:28

      I sense a good idea here, which has been lost in translation. If you are a good farmer, but lost money through the vagaries of farming - and you are being offered a lifeline, along with someone that will walk the road with you - certainly not a bad idea. The execution, however, is open to corruption.

  • Thanduxolo Galada - 2012-10-22 23:46

    "Working together, we can GET more!" That is how the slogan is. President Joyce Banda of Malawi puts ours to shame.

      geronimo.feather - 2012-10-22 23:54

      I like your style.

      Divvy - 2012-10-23 00:23

      I want to see this sharp Galada in parliament soon! He has given me so much hope for our country.

      merven.halo - 2012-10-23 07:43

      That is the problem Divvy, the intelligent blacks just never get involve with politics, they are to busy working hard for a good future for themselves and their families. Dumb people take politics as a career because it is little work and a lot of money.

      jacovniek - 2012-10-23 08:10

      Thandu, are you available for presidency? ...I'll vote for you. :)

      TaniaSandraSteyn - 2012-10-24 01:29

      I sense a good idea here, which has been lost in translation. If you are a good farmer, but lost money through the vagaries of farming - and you are being offered a lifeline, along with someone that will walk the road with you - certainly not a bad idea. The execution, however, is open to corruption.

      matthew.kotze - 2012-10-25 12:09

      Absolutely Thandu! It seems as if its going to be up to the people of South Africa to live with Love for each other. Mr Zuma, How about just a bit of common sense with what is acceptable for all South Africans!?

  • andrez.kolesky - 2012-10-22 23:50

    What a nerve !!!

  • www.internationalflyerz.co.za - 2012-10-22 23:50

    With the size of this country, surely there is enough space to start a new farm if so desired, instead of the "state" buying an existing farm? Laziness and greed comes to mind.

      andrez.kolesky - 2012-10-23 00:30

      @www.internationalflyerz.co.za (Goodness but it's long) The national and provincial government owns about 24,5-million hectares http://mg.co.za/article/2009-01-23-who-owns-what-land-in-south-africa Why not "give" some of this land to the people that feel they are "entitled" to land, problem solved, Not ??

      paul.bester.50 - 2012-10-23 07:39

      " Laziness and greed comes to mind " More like stupidity !!!

      merven.halo - 2012-10-23 07:43

      They can start with Onderstepoort, 90% of the land is currently unused and going backwards very quickly.

  • No.You're a handbag - 2012-10-22 23:50

    Okay Zuma. You give back 50% of Nkandla, and 50% of your salary (including your vast family's susbidy), then you have a deal. Oh. Yes. And half of your income for the rest of your life, and half your pension. Kthanksbye.

  • cliff.slabbert - 2012-10-22 23:53

    There are too many farmers who have been pushed from pillar to post by this mobster and his goons. His rooster's are on their way home to roost!

  • pawel.poniatowski.3 - 2012-10-22 23:53

    wow, crazy policy.....

  • Onufry - 2012-10-22 23:58

    Everybody knows what will be the only goal of the "district land reform committees" (or any other new public institutions under this peasant) - accomodating uneducated cadres of the ruling party.

  • cindy.dunn.9 - 2012-10-23 00:09

    Please I'm am on my knees as a mother . How can we stop this government????? Is there a way we could arrange a rally or protest. All Africans have a stake in this country. Who can we speak to in order for it to be a legal gathering. South africa our children are ate stake. Can any one give me a number or email address so that we can make it happen. *tears in eyes* I don't care about politics or being rich I just wanna feed and educate my kids

      jacovniek - 2012-10-23 08:13

      Why can't we protest together. Its our country????

      marion.wannenberg - 2012-10-23 08:15

      Eish, you sound desperate! Contact your local Municipal Office, they will give you forms to complete. Please ensure that you apply timeously as they have to present your request to a panel who will also have a very expensive lunch at tax payers expense. If they are fed and given enough to drink your request will be given the thumbs up. Please ensure that your followers are sane working people as you may be held liable for any damages caused enroute. If you are in the Cape Town area please let me know when the march is so I can join you.

  • denzil.bignoux - 2012-10-23 00:11

    Why can we not just follow the successful examples in the world and start running the country on sound business practices with out the politics and black and white mentality. The only way to reduce poverty and increase employment and investment would be unselfish true leaders being placed in power. If we continue to follow the failed countries great land plans we too will fail. We have already failed our people and this will create more poverty and unemployment. Let's at least thank Zim for showing us what not to do with our land and economy. They got 100% for failure.

      cindy.dunn.9 - 2012-10-23 00:14

      Why can't we protest together. Its our country????

      johann.vandenberg.9 - 2012-10-23 00:39

      We just haven't got the people...to answer your opening bid.

  • ndyeboreginaldmazawule - 2012-10-23 00:12

    This would be all good if wena President u just exclude the 50% and the BEE in all this 'innovation'.

  • johann.vandenberg.9 - 2012-10-23 00:14

    This turd also wanted a big airliner, has Nkandla, blamed apartheid for not having delivered the text books, appointed an incompetent police commissioner, were involved in a rape case, were involved in the Shaik corruption scandal without prosecution,flies around the world doing photo ops and has a bottom end failed education...and now this no brainer. The mines are obviously still to come. As somebody said "the problem with the world is that intelligent people are cautious and apprehensive and the morons are confident and secure". Our great fear should not lie with him but rather with those who secure his nomination and election. Whatakant street here isn't it?

      johann.vandenberg.9 - 2012-10-23 03:13

      He also presides over the Tollgate debacle which is a textbook exercise in poor planning and execution, appointed a supreme judge that blew up in his face and failed to intervene in the Dalai Lama visa application. As head of state he could have wished him here and it would have been cut and dried. He fathered a child with a soccer bosses daughter isn't it? And this is our head of State. A man is poor when he has no money, the more so if he has only money.

      mike.bundy.73 - 2012-10-23 09:33

      Don't forget GUILTY of taking bribes from Shabby Schaik

  • smalefane - 2012-10-23 00:15

    Plan has to be implemented as a matter of urgency. How can a minority group own so much land? It just doesn't make any sense. Land redistribution is imperative.

      cindy.dunn.9 - 2012-10-23 00:16

      Why can't we protest together. Its our country????

      Stlouis Heidtmann - 2012-10-23 00:25

      you just dont listen or see that would be the end of this country you bloody fools just dont learn you actualy want poverty destruction hunger you lot want this country to turn into zim wtf is wrong with you people???

      mark.a.fysh - 2012-10-23 01:28

      Smalefane. Farmers are a minority group in any developed country you care to mention. Why is land-distribution a matter of urgency, when the recipients will not be able to succeed without long and arduous training? What you need is a good education, so you don't need to go scape a living off a patch of land that barely feed you and your family. Just look north to Zim, Malawi, Zambia, Rwanda, Kenya and much more extreme examples, where they now need food aid. Your argument has no basis and you have not put much thought into this comment of yours.

      long.tom.509 - 2012-10-23 08:44

      Well how much land do they own ? have you got the facts ? how much land does the goverment own ? land that has been redistributed how much of this is now productive ? let's say that all commercial farm land is redistributed,will the people that get given this land have the skills to make this land productive,I have a feeling that you do not think to deeply,and that you just throw comments around with no real thought,much like the Zuma and his cronies!

      frans.visserdsb - 2012-10-23 17:09

      Please do some research. Pre 1994 approximatley 13% of SA's land was owned by blacks (not sure if this includes the tribal lands in KZN and Eastern Cape, but assumes so) The government owns approximately 25-30% of the land area of SA - this excludes the property owned by parastatals such as Escom, Transnet, etc. (Another 5%) Then you have large listed companies -who has a BEE rating and would therefore be considered at least partly black-owned - like SAPPI, MONDI, Tongaat-Huletts,the mines....This is approximately 10% - Where would that fall? Remember that Tongaat for example has a BEE score of 2, and uses a lot of black farmers on land 'leased' to them. Furthermore there has been approximately 5-9% of land transferred to Black hands since 1994. This means that the white commercial farmers are left on approximately 30% of the arable land - which compares well with the approximatley 20% in possession of Black farmers.

      TaniaSandraSteyn - 2012-10-24 01:33

      I sense a good idea here, which has been lost in translation. If you are a good farmer, but lost money through the vagaries of farming - and you are being offered a lifeline, along with someone that will walk the road with you - certainly not a bad idea. The execution, however, is open to corruption.

  • norman.buchalter - 2012-10-23 00:15

    Why are the Mulders so silent all of a sudden? Bring back someone with guts. Like Constand Viljoen had. Our temperature and tempers are rising.

  • shirley.brun.3 - 2012-10-23 00:16

    The UN will bring the maize in packages while the "new farmers" sit around breeding and breeding and inbreeding. No wonder they are not all there. Yup they will probably kill those farmers so that Zuma can buy them the land

      daniel.mahoney.za - 2012-10-23 09:33

      Shirley - You really got some people going with your earlier comment.. LOL

  • Jacques - 2012-10-23 00:19

    Ja well no fine, but give whoever wrote this speech a break. At least the phrase 'investor confidence' is featuring there. It's refreshing to hear actual cognitive output, not just commie-rhethoric.

  • michael.i.wright - 2012-10-23 00:20

    It all suddenly becomes clear now. This thing has coffee grounds where its brain is supposed to be.

  • tiaan.truter - 2012-10-23 00:33

    Lol government take the land at 50% of its value...then what? give it to idiots that doesnt know jack sh*t about farming ? Yes ANC thats the way to think u bunch of sheep...

  • Zimzon - 2012-10-23 00:33

    I own a business and have several black employees. We have an open and sound relationship. Most of them have property and cattle in the Transkei. When they moved to Cape Town they again get a house free and then own 2 properties, I do not have a problem with that. Thousands and thousands of black people got property free, paid by tax payers money. This is a form of redistribution, I do not have a problem with that. I have a problem with this obsession to throw white people of commercial farm land and give it to blacks.

      TaniaSandraSteyn - 2012-10-24 01:37

      That's why I am "howling" for a proper audit of who owns what. Our Government lack the guts and capacity to do that.

  • Wendy - 2012-10-23 00:38

    Our fiscus, our economy, our sustainability is reliant on a sophisticated property tenure system which has been in place since the 1600's. How to flush it down the toilet in the single swoop. Have we learned NOTHING from the complete collapse of our neighbour's economy?? Place a value of 50% on a piece of land, extrapolate within the region, banks cannot (and will not) support agricultural loans against land to sustain the next crop - food prices through the roof, inflation through the roof. Who suffas first? The poh pee-pull. Dear God - does stupidity know no bounds???

      KReddy - 2012-10-23 01:32

      It does. The extra lump on zoomers head shows its expanded its presence

  • mark.a.fysh - 2012-10-23 00:39

    Maybe we, as Commercial Farmers, should stop financing the AFASA leaches as we are forced to through levies from our Farmers-Associations. Secondly, we should ask Zuma to sell his Nkandla fortress for half it's value and donate to the 50% dispossessed Commercial Farmers, their deceased estates and struggling farmers Thirdly, we demand that 50% of all equity in SA must be donated as well, thus ensuring a civil war. Yeah, lets get it over with if that is what Zuma wants.

  • thulanit3 - 2012-10-23 00:43

    Most comments are simply fuelled by hatred, rather than common sense! Stop whining, Land Redistribution must happened, its a freedom charter concept. Just cooperate fo a smooth redistribution process to happen!

      brett.michielin - 2012-10-23 06:04

      I agree but at the price of starving our nation come on.

      Rhulani - 2012-10-23 07:08

      @ thulanit3 - my first and last question is.... Who is holding the titledeeds?\\r\\nDo you ever own any property, if you do then what are your sole rights in accordance to the \\SA Bill of Rights\\?\\r\\nI still feel that we both equal and should have equal rights in our country (common law). Whites they never came to you and ask shares or steal your shebeen ownerships.\\r\\nLet's farmers do theirs business their own way.\\r\\nIf you wise you and your president you were smart enough, you were not gonna direct point whites farmers, instead you were gonna grant them with billions funding capacity that they may also apply for it out of their own will. I think my wisdom is not economically challenged and not abusing racial powers.\\r\\nWhite farmers, as Zuma pointed in his statement, have beneficiaries, and those beneficiaries are their children, and those children are still YOUTHs of this country and please kist let th invest their own way. They never stole any land from you. You born yesterday and those farms where here manufacturing braai wors for you already. \\r\\n\\r\\nIf you still feel that some farmers stole your land, why can't you just come out and point those farmers and deal with them through legal process.\\r\\n\\r\\nYour wisdom is mentally challenged and corruptly motivated and luck of economic reasoning, you have wisdom that doesn't understand the freedom. Stop commenting about freedom when you don't free other people(farmers).

      long.tom.509 - 2012-10-23 08:51

      So who should get the land ? which previously disadvantaged ? how many people want farm land in SA ? will they be able to do succesfull commercial farming or just continue with sub sistance farming,you do not have to re do the wheel just look north to your neighbour,and see what humanatarian aid is been shipped in there,to a country that was once the bread basket of southern africa,

      heathway.master - 2012-10-23 23:47

      I sincerely suggest that we show empathy for thulani3, rather than criticize him so harshly. Rumour has it that he went to his doctor for a brain scan last week, but they found nothing.

      TaniaSandraSteyn - 2012-10-24 01:48

      I sense a good idea here, which has been lost in translation. If you are a good farmer, but lost money through the vagaries of farming - and you are being offered a lifeline, along with someone that will walk the road with you - certainly not a bad idea. The execution, however, is open to corruption. Thulani, I have increased my herd of Nguni's to twice their number in two years. If I had your money, I could feed them twice a day, and increase my profit. That means an investment of R40'000, with a return of R6'000. It wil take about 5 years to show a real profit - if we don't have a flood or a drought, or people coming over from Kwanobuhle and slaughtering all our cattle. Do you still want to play this game? This is REALITY my friend.

      frank.hall.7509 - 2012-12-19 09:37

      look what happened to the farms in Zim.......just waste land today

  • candicehickman312 - 2012-10-23 00:52

    Here we go South Africa- This is a major warning sign!!! This is all part of the ECONOMIC GENOCIDE!!!

  • denise.wilshire - 2012-10-23 00:55

    My!O'My! The spin doctors have been working overtime to divert this weeks Nkandla debacle! Gotta hand it to the bunch, they really did a nice job of garnering the rural vote this time! On the other hand Darren, they have now made it clear why they haven't really had interest in the white farmer genocide that has been going on for years. Deceased estates....Hmm. Cash strapped farmers...Hmm. This government has never delivered any of it's promises successfully, how do they think that they can make this work to the benefit of all concerned. Better start growing your veggies in any old container which you can find. Our food security is about to be seriously challenged!

  • rouen.heiberg - 2012-10-23 01:05

    These ANC clowns can't even distribute textbooks on time to the correct schools now they want to redistribute land. Another stupid plan by the ANC that will be executed poorly due to greed, incompetence and corruption on a national level.

  • mark.a.fysh - 2012-10-23 01:06

    After 50% of my farm has been stolen from me by the ANC gvt, they then suggest I go begging to my district farmers for them to cough up the 50% THE STATE STOLE FROM ME.

  • KingPun - 2012-10-23 01:08

    \Zuma\ and \innovative\ in the same sentance?

  • mark.a.fysh - 2012-10-23 01:11

    I don't know any farmers who use the Land Bank, which is lever these ANC cretins will use to enforce bankruptsies, so I pity the poor fools who willingly borrowed from this gvt - WHAT WERE THEY THINKING?

  • heinrich.laubscher - 2012-10-23 01:15

    Do you really want to own land? Then clean up your goddamn act, get a job and buy it like the rest of us. This occupy traffic light mentality runs deeper than I thought. You don't just become a farmer, it's something that gets passed on from generation to generation, something you get born into. Great example from our commander in chief to encourage people to look at the materialistic things in life, than rather to value life around us. Get a job and educate yourself as education is something no one can take away from you, but land as many can tell you, can and eventually be taken away in the blink of an eye...

  • mark.a.fysh - 2012-10-23 01:19

    Zuma is trying to say 50% theft is permissable. Half a Land-Grab. 50% ANC gvt theft visited on farmers is quite a good idea according to this wannabe Mugabe. This is not Zimbabwe, Mr. Zuma, no matter how hard you try to equate the two. I am sure the international Human Rights organisations will hear of this and SA will auto decline another few pegs to a failed state status.

      merven.halo - 2012-10-23 08:16

      But Rustic, that is the average guidelines for tender fraud, steal 50%.

  • Martha1234 - 2012-10-23 01:31

    Why doesn't the government do a "trial run" with some of the land they own first. Let the people who wish to farm use the land but give them targets, so if they don't reach a certain quota in a time frame, sorry you had your chance, then it goes to the next person in line. But if they are successful, they can buy shares of the land with the profit. This way everybody who is willing to work hard wins. Plus the government, instead of having to buy land from existing farmers, actually makes money from their own land, and we create more jobs, more farmers and more food for everybody. And of course, the more successful a farmer becomes, the more land he can buy. This sorts out the "I wants" from the "I want to work". Just a thought...

      thembapat.mthini - 2012-10-23 05:41

      A very good plan Martha, i wish someone from the government can read this.

      TaniaSandraSteyn - 2012-10-24 01:51

      Happening, Martha. It's not working.

  • mark.a.fysh - 2012-10-23 01:32

    Can't we have Zuma arrested for inciting criminal activity? Ah no, it wouldn't work - he would go to his Nkandla fortress with his family nation.

      johann.vandenberg.9 - 2012-10-23 01:46

      He has a way of skipping the law...remember!? He even appointed a man of supreme office in the justice department. I don't think he could organize himself out of a burning telephone booth

  • christopher.caine.71 - 2012-10-23 01:35

    How about this... If the government paid for half the land and the potential farmer (who has worked in farming before and knows how to farm, but wants to be his own boss) paid the other half. Then there's land reform, but it's not a free farm, it's easier for a black man to start farming but he has to be trained and invest his own money in the farm as motivation to make it succeed.

      ernest.lwandle - 2012-10-23 02:02

      thats a good point chris like me ihv been working under hospitality industry since from the beggining now im aproaching the highest level so icant just quit that and go for farming tha to think of opening my own mini bar or restaurent its an example

  • KReddy - 2012-10-23 01:47

    That pre 1994 ratio of 87 verse 13 percent of land owned between white and blacks was scrapped immediately after democracy came as the government was black. This ratio must not be punted as a valid fact anymore and is quite outdated. Furthermore, the Deeds offices do not keep records of \race\ in their transactions so the real white vs black land ownership stats is not available coupled with the State not knowing what land they own therefore the state land audit that the rural development department is doing. We cannot have radical policy shifts to fast track reform (think Zim) and neither can we have that ratio sticking so unfavourably to a minority. That is a fact, I'm not being racist. A compromise needs to be reached. 1 option would be to use state land to redistribute to black willing and capable people. Will cost the state far less that buying and transferring existing farms and supposrting the incumbents who know nothing of farming. 2 would be to negotiate with large commercial farms to subdivide a portion of their farms where expertise can be transferred and blacks owners (compromise) therefore over time, becoming more financially secure to purchase more farms (compromise by existing farmers) to further balance the land owner by race ratio. The sooner the State realises that sustainable, un dramatic moves and ultimately guaranteed food security is the better option will other aspects like rural crime stats drop, employment accross most major sectors increase favourably. Its cheap politicking Mr Zuma for votes. Why not speak on current pertinent matters which needs your urgent attention in your capacity as the president of the republic instead of shying away from that duty to politic your way to Anc president re elections and presidential Term 2?

      KReddy - 2012-10-23 01:53

      And build more houses and communities so ppl can move out of shanty towns and get physical address to unlock their access to services? By doing so they will be able to actively participate in the economy and be less of a burden to the State. Wake up Mr Presidente.

      johann.vandenberg.9 - 2012-10-23 03:02

      I tend to go with this kind of action. In moderation, incrementally and well directed... I would also like to submit that if they had used the billions which they have squandered and corrupted and stolen/lost through i.e. the horrendous tenders, they could have bought ALL the commercial farms at twice the market value. This seems to evade them totally.

      Christoff - 2012-10-23 13:56

      KReddy is heeltemal korrek. In die weskaap is kommersiele boere lankal besig om van hul plaas aandele en eiendom in hul arbeiders se hande teplaas en ander optebou tot selfstandige kommersiele boere. Dit word gedoen sonder om 'n bohaai daaroor temaak, ANC leer gerus van die weskaap.

  • mmotsamai - 2012-10-23 02:12

    I see whats happening, if u read the sub clauses carefully u realise zuma wants to buy bankrupt farms his friends own with state money and then give back the farms to them, what a plan

      Notrax123 - 2012-10-23 02:20

      Mm, I missed that angle - nice.

  • Notrax123 - 2012-10-23 02:17

    Ah, the day has finaly dawned, a white man can buy a BEE status!

      maureen.walton1 - 2012-10-24 10:16

      Wow, aren't we so lucky!

  • emmanuel.roodt - 2012-10-23 02:43

    "Who controls the food supply controls the people; who controls the energy can control whole continents; who controls money can control the world.” -Henry Kissinger

      lerato.kay.3 - 2012-10-23 03:02

      So why pay farm workers a mere R300?

      merven.halo - 2012-10-23 08:00

      The minimum wage is not R300 idiot. How about giving farm workers R4000 a month and then they must pay rent, water and electricity and for their food.

  • emmanuel.roodt - 2012-10-23 02:50

    "50% of its market value. This, Zuma said, would be closer to its fair productive value." Let all South Africans ask the government to do this for all of us so we may buy a new house. (ALL SOUTH AFRICANS!!!!)

      No.You're a handbag - 2012-10-23 03:02

      Why not have all South Africans pay half their bank loans on their houses, since it's closer to the productive value... the banks can go to the state for the rest?

      johann.vandenberg.9 - 2012-10-23 03:19

      The productive value of the government is probably around 25% and he wants to tell us the pope's address??

      No.You're a handbag - 2012-10-23 07:03

      True. Why can't we pay them their market value? Pay a quarter of the tax, until they pull up their socks!

  • rocketman999 - 2012-10-23 03:48

    News Flash: About 90% of the redistributed farms have failed, leaving idle nearly 15 million acres of once productive farmland, about 6% of South Africa's arable land. These are the facts - my brother in law's farm in Roedtan was sold to the government in 1996 as part of a redistribution program, a full production tobacco and cotton farm that employed around 60 full time workers. In 2001, yes only 5 years later, thorn trees were standing 2m high in the cotton fields, the irrigation pipes were gone, borehole pumps and other machinery sold, the 100 tree orange orchard was destroyed and used for fire wood. This happened because the farm was sold to people who did not have the skills to manage the farm, even though they lived and worked on the farm for 3 generations. http://articles.latimes.com/2010/nov/21/world/la-fg-south-africa-farms-20101121

  • evan.connock - 2012-10-23 03:48

    You have to love paragraph 7 ... The part where struggling farmers are given 50 percent of the land value. If a farm is "worth" say a million giving the farmer or the estate 50 percent of the value is nothing short of exploitation and theft Mr Zuma, this innovative new plan is utter nonsense. Look what happened in Zimbabwe, what makes you think it will work here? Many of those farms were given to Mugabe's hordes who let them run to ruin. This idea is not innovative and it ammounts to theft, offering a farmer who has perhaps worked the land of his forefathers for many years to provide for his family half the valueis NOT acceptable.

      No.You're a handbag - 2012-10-23 06:27

      Then again, if they give struggling farmers 50%, AND cancel their bank loans, then why not? The insulting thing about all of this is that they seem to be labouring under the illusion that farmers farm because of some deep seated desire to work long hours in the elements, to put food on people's table. Farming is a business. Much like being a liberator. Although the latter is far more profitable.