Zuma ready for leadership fight

2012-12-16 07:06

Bloemfontein - There was “nothing wrong” with ANC members accepting nominations and contesting positions in the party's leadership, President Jacob Zuma said on Saturday.

“People think there is something wrong with accepting nominations.

There is nothing wrong,” he said to applause from guests at the Progressive Business Forum gala dinner.

Deputy president Kgalema Motlanthe has accepted nominations to replace Zuma at the African National Congress's national conference in Mangaung (Bloemfontein).

Zuma used the example of when Harry Gwala ran against former ANC leader Walter Sisulu despite knowing he would lose.

“Harry Gwala, contested Walter Sisulu… and if he got ten votes, it would be too much,” he said.

Zuma said that when Gwala was asked why he ran he said that it was to teach the young members of the ANC about democracy.

“Contestations were there [when the ANC was formed] in 1912 in Mangaung,” he said.

Zuma said ANC members were very passionate about the organisation.

“They are vibrant, and they sing and make signs with their hands,” he joked.

Members who supported Zuma for a second term often hold up two fingers, while those supporting Motlanthe roll their hands in a gesture synonymous with calling for the substitution of a soccer player.

“Democracy is about free expression and free choice. [it is about] people not being afraid to express themselves. That is what the ANC is doing. “

Zuma said the during 100 years of existence, the ANC had grown from being an organisation of people labeled as “terrorists” to the ruling party of a country.

“There are many organisations that have come and gone, and the ANC grows stronger,” he said.

“The ANC will still be there at the next centenary. We are blessed we are here this time around. “

He said the ANC was often labelled as corrupt, but the allegations were untrue.

“Before 1994, if you spoke about corruption you were likely to get unwelcomed visitors,” he joked.

“We have created vehicles to fight corruption, and we are branded as the most corrupt organisation.”

He also wished former ANC president Nelson Mandela a “speedy recovery”.

Mandela spent the last week in a Pretoria hospital where he was being treated for a lung infection and gallstones.

The ANC's national conference is scheduled to start on Sunday.

The party's top six officials, as well as the national executive committee members would be elected by delegates over the course of the week.

  • faizieishlah.shabalala - 2012-12-16 07:20

    So did the puppet master Patrice Motsepe give his permission

      grootrot.vanzyl - 2012-12-16 08:30

      This is like the QF battle of the Boks against Aus in WC 2011. In hindsight everyone knows (including Bryce) - the game was rigged. Aus could have fielded 15 tannies in wheelchairs and would have still lost. Zuma has already rigged this one - one just need to look forward to the gifts of patronage in the next 7 years to see who was rigged. Democracy, my Bryce Lawrence. Thinking off, I need to go to the loo.

      beverly.young3 - 2012-12-16 08:51

      I cringe as I realise that this headline is now world news. Am I wrong but should this opportunbity have been better served if he ...?...never mind. It is all a joke, I am depressed. Stock markets are already Sunday.

      aniken.vader.31 - 2012-12-16 09:30

      Zuma is ready for leadership fight. Just forgot to be a leader. Then entire world is aware and upset about the usa shooting. He just forgot to send a message to obama.

  • immanuell.mathekga - 2012-12-16 07:22

    Dis old man s just so so full of himself. Wel, u might survive dis round maybe. But come 2017, u wont lead 4eva sir.

      immanuell.mathekga - 2012-12-16 09:03

      I think most ANC leaders r so self-serving / self-enriching. M not enying da ANC bng da party dat leads da country, but its leadership choines r so wrong dat I cant believe dey occupy dose positions.

  • asdhasgd - 2012-12-16 07:22

    “We have created vehicles to fight corruption, and we are branded as the most corrupt organisation.” Well when your vehicles are hijacked and sold for money to build "compounds" and fund multi-billion rand trips to fancy hotels and lavish lifestyles we can can you corrupt, facsist, dispicable, uncouth, greedy, lying... TAKE YOUR PICK JACKASSES!

  • Eric Mdudus Shaku - 2012-12-16 07:25

    Hahaha lol,women s league,mkva,party elders,6prvnces and 500votes frm other 3 provinces Zuma has already 15votes from youth league

  • Grizzlybear - 2012-12-16 07:27

    Article title should rather be : Zuma ready for personal interests fight The words leadership and Zuma renders any sentence nonsensical

      oliver.lankes.3 - 2012-12-16 09:55

      Or: Zuma ready for his fight to stay out of jail

  • Eric Mdudus Shaku - 2012-12-16 07:29

    What i like is Zuma gets blessing from you guys,the more you hate him,talk him bad,the more blessing

      kndobe - 2012-12-16 07:38

      Look... Mduduzi you so ignorant you make me laugh

      asdhasgd - 2012-12-16 07:39

      look...kndobe you so arrogant you make me laugh.

      kndobe - 2012-12-16 07:48

      Opinion, and now???

      asdhasgd - 2012-12-16 08:13

      Wait, i'm confused. I thought i was in the right? ':o

  • liezl.haramis.7 - 2012-12-16 07:43

    Scary...some people cant spell...not even the 1st name of the candidate they back...but eish...we run da country...

  • marilyn.docherty.9 - 2012-12-16 07:44

    The Conference has barely begun and already the ANC is in debt to the University of the Free State because they have NOT PAID THEIR BILL!!!!! Thieves!!!!

  • liezl.haramis.7 - 2012-12-16 07:44

    Eric, I agree with Charles, Mandela is old and wont live forever!! Its time the sword thats been over everyones heads, dropped. Its life, we all die sometime!!

      Eric Mdudus Shaku - 2012-12-16 08:10

      No-one is going to live forever,because of his kind he lived to that age,any1 its risky of a death,accidents,desease also natural death,and death visits any1 at anytime does not knock

      Thabani - 2012-12-16 09:25

      What an idiotic thing to say! But why should I be surprised. @news24 is full of racists who are mean spirited.

      uhone - 2012-12-16 10:31

      Lol@ Thabani,since when is saying everyone is bound to die one day being racist?

  • kndobe - 2012-12-16 07:46

    A leader is supposed to give you hope and not many of us are not right now, the country is becoming more divided Under the leadership of Zuma and the future is not looking good. I will not blame him for all that has gone wrong but it is time for him to vacate his seat now

  • mzwandile.dlamanzi - 2012-12-16 07:50

    This is like saying, nothing is wrong about scoring goals in a football game.

  • tsatsi.golden - 2012-12-16 07:59

    Yes u are corrupt. Kiss and say goodby to my vote

      morrisn2 - 2012-12-16 08:17

      Dont think ur has any significance in the ANC, its membership is enough 2 win the national elections, u not doing anc any favour, stuff ur vote!

  • Prince Kgwale - 2012-12-16 08:00

    Zuma talking about corruption??? lol,dis dude is not serious.

  • mkhuseli.njamela - 2012-12-16 08:06

    I don't cares, whether you ready or not for leadership fight...

  • mkhuseli.njamela - 2012-12-16 08:06

    I don't cares, whether you ready or not for leadership fight...

      Wally Wal - 2012-12-16 08:25

      No! there is nothing wrong with the ANC there is somthing wrong with the people running the ANC thank you.

  • Stefan Erasmus - 2012-12-16 08:21

    Lucky must be bad to be so stupid. Shame.....

  • truthbetold221 - 2012-12-16 08:22

    I think Trevor was right about subliminal messages. He is telling his supporters that he had a chat with Kgalema before he accepted his nomination. The being of infinite wisdom and no IQ at all has spoken.

  • truthbetold221 - 2012-12-16 08:24

    One more thing, in a democracy a president steps down when asked to by the nation.

      Mbuso Siera - 2012-12-16 09:07

      Which Nation has asked the president to step down....u mean the DA nd Mazibuko who has a crash on Zuma....thats not the Nation....its some white political party trying to protect the interest of the white capitalist...

      truthbetold221 - 2012-12-16 09:12

      You mean Crush

      truthbetold221 - 2012-12-16 09:44

      Are you Zulu by any chance Mbuso?

      hamelton.ethin - 2012-12-16 11:52

      There is no president dat wil ever satisfy de whole country coz if dat was de case then we would change de leadership each n every month,so u must leave wit it u moron, u sound like an AWB member

  • Stefan Erasmus - 2012-12-16 08:24

    Eric Mdudus are you from SA?? Dumb f@@@@@k.

      Eric Mdudus Shaku - 2012-12-16 08:35

      NO need to swear, truth hurts my man.

      Eric Mdudus Shaku - 2012-12-16 08:36

      Ya dis is my land.

  • lungelo.nsibande.7 - 2012-12-16 08:28

    During apartheid and struggle we were called Terrorist! In a democratic society we are called corrupt leaders! I wonder tomorrow what are they going to call us. They took our Land from us! Our minerals! Killed our comrades! But we shall never, never again succumb to them again.

      kndobe - 2012-12-16 08:36

      Lungelo, what about corruption??

      francois.vermeulen.184 - 2012-12-16 09:16

      Who's them you yourself and your own? Grow up and move forward in life

      mdawini.vodloza - 2012-12-16 09:51

      Never ever succumb to these idiots who stil want to c fellow comrades/blacks bowing to them.l blv its now tym to show them their place these ungrateful idiots

  • hamelton.ethin - 2012-12-16 08:30

    The moment u see the word Zuma or ANC here @news24 u comment like u r crazy, wow u r obsessed wit Msholozi, but once u see DA or Zille u dnt comment

      morrisn2 - 2012-12-16 08:52

      Mayb there`s no such thing as DA or mayb ppl only know the ANC, it makes me wonder!

  • morrisn2 - 2012-12-16 08:32

    Lets be honest ANC has done more gud thn bad, i dont condone any corruption nor wasteful spending bt atleast give some credit wher is due, mayb ppl focus 2 much on individual thn wht ths party stands for?Shw maturity in ur critism: a constructive 1 helps!

      mshiniboys - 2012-12-16 09:00

      The work that has been done by the ANC does not equal the budget given to them.let us start with the freedom charter that our leaders always talk about all the time as if they understand it.where is the free education and why did they defy the part that says govenment land shold be given to people for housing? Lenasia? And many other places where people have been evicted and land sold to property developers? Mina nawe in Daveyton for example.thats govenment land now sold for R70000 a stand in a poor community. Where are jobs and dignity?.if you want to be praised keep promises and follow the policies and kee expensive parties and giving food parcels and grants is not something we can boast about in terms of a progressive society.In fact it is patronising to most people.where are good hospitals and schools.go and look at the condition of all govenment facilities arround the country and tell me they are not in the brink of collapse.i dont want to mention the water crisis across the a person who vote the ANC all the time these are my concerns.RDP houses are built today next year they fall....yet they count when speeches are made?

  • hein.helmand - 2012-12-16 08:36


      asivhanga - 2012-12-16 08:50

      ...bless yah...!

  • Stefan Erasmus - 2012-12-16 08:38

    We will only call anc members idiots. And you are one of them.

      morrisn2 - 2012-12-16 08:48

      That makes u an idiot too, ppl hv freedom of choice n u got 2 respect tht irrespective of who they choose, bcos they different frm what u choose does nt give u right 2 call them names!

  • megalos.savvas - 2012-12-16 08:45

    Steal or lie to the goverment and you are called a thief and a fraudster . The goverment lies and steals from you and they are called politicians

  • lownabester - 2012-12-16 08:50

    So he admit that they are the most corrupt party, These idiots will never learn. May they kill each other there, what a joyous day that would be, Go for it Zuma, but be swift, killing can be so much fun.

  • Stefan Erasmus - 2012-12-16 08:59

    Freedom???? O my word...your n bigger idiot than I thought. Go back to your shack to your 29 brothers.

  • rob.bayliss.94 - 2012-12-16 09:10

    Orwellian to say the least... Consider a few extracts 1. Zuma ready.....well that will be a first considering this has nothing to do with his trousers. 2. Leadership....well I guess that by the standards shown recently nothing is any worse. But to use leadership in the same phrase as Zuma is pushing my credibility beyond rational limits. 3. Fight....with so many opportunities/needs for sharing common objectives and working at them as a team this constant use of inflammatory, aggressive terminology belongs somewhere else. Maybe the school playground, the Zulu kraals or Argentina (Falklands). Stop it now! I think that these points from the heading illustrates what I am trying to say, now re-read the piece and see if there are more phopars (

  • francois.vermeulen.184 - 2012-12-16 09:14

    Democracy? I would I rather say its become a reversed dictatorship. Comments about white orphans.....seriously pathetic. Grow up Mathata.fela7 and also I recon you are prob. One of the lucky ones to have received an RDP. White Black White Black I recon you are a racist. Democracy + racism = a f.up if this isn't to difficult for you to understand.

  • roy.wadhams.1 - 2012-12-16 09:15

    @ Eric Mdudus.Shaku,not certain which country,planet,Universe you come from but you must be very "slow" if you are not aware that the whole of South Africa,Black,White,Coloured etc etc are not aware of how corrupt Zooma and many ANC people are. Read the newspapers etc and you will see that it has been proven over & over again how big a criminal he is.

  • truthbetold221 - 2012-12-16 09:29

    Note that whenever a major decision has to be made concerning the ANC you are reminded of Apartheid.1. ANC feeds from division between blacks and whites during elections.2. It makes ANC government look less evil between the two.3. It drives people's emotions preventing them from making doubt decisions.4. It makes us black people feel like we owe the ANC. 5. Lastly, it makes blacks hate the idea of a white president/leadership. So expect the ANC to remind you how different you are from the other race and to revive your apartheid scars at least twice every month. It works for them.

      truthbetold221 - 2012-12-16 09:33

      .3. It drives people's emotions preventing them from making sound decision

      truthbetold221 - 2012-12-16 09:34

      .3. It drives people's emotions preventing them from making sound decisions

  • Thabo Pilusa LikesUche'Okezié - 2012-12-16 09:43

    Can you believe that 1 of our local businessman owns 6 different Companies alone, each company awarded tender contracts...!! @Eric Mdudus - I guess this makes sense to you.

  • hendrick.mokwale - 2012-12-16 09:47

    Democracy is a crazy game in the sense tht its purport is to not always listen2da leaders but the ppl.if its ppl hu want smbody to win elections,so will b it.

  • annelise.vanderschyff - 2012-12-16 09:49

    Enjoy your circus in bft on tax payers money

  • B.b. - 2012-12-16 09:53

    1912 and 2012 mmmm well ok

  • phutipeter.keetse - 2012-12-16 09:53

    @eric u mst be from KZN in Nkandla......u r a moron man.....

  • herc.poirot.35 - 2012-12-16 09:59

    Is there a fault line beneath Mangaung? or any other seismic activity?

  • samuel.slyme - 2012-12-16 10:04

    Next century? Remember what today used to commemorate: the defeat of a Zulu despot. "If it be now, 'tis not to come; if it be not to come, it will be now; if it be not now, yet it will come ..." Tic-toc ... ...

  • sipho.zuma.796 - 2012-12-16 10:07

    Zuma ready to read speeches prepared for him and move his puppet lips.

  • annie.israel.50 - 2012-12-16 11:34

    Zuma is becoming more senile -"SA A DEMOCRACY" !!! Please what utter BULLS.......T - He is a criminal and should be send to jail - he is a despicable person - ONCE A COMMUNIST ALWAYS ONE - He is far too old and think a good leader should not be older than 60 (with exception of Mandela) ZUMA U ARE MAKING HEADLINES ALL OVER THE WORLD WITH REGARDS TO U PLUNDERING MILLIONS OF RANDS!!!

  • jacqui.daanevanrensburg - 2012-12-16 11:47

    Yes, his beady eyes told us so.

  • waiszee.sing - 2012-12-16 13:11

    Lies lies lies... I don't understand why people vite forvthem when there is other parties witb better moral fiber and progresive leadership

  • Erna - 2012-12-16 13:23

    It must take guts, or absolute arrogance, for a man who has the morals of an alley cat, 700 charges of corruption and fraud against him, and nkandla hanging over him, to tell the world that the anc is not corrupt. He is the laughing stock of the world - I think he even surpasses mugabe!

  • winifred.watson.9 - 2012-12-16 14:48

    Zuma will fight because if he loses he knows he could find himself standing before the courts. South Africa will not get rid of zuma so easy, he is a mugabe will hang on till somebody tops him.

  • jason.d.smith.528 - 2012-12-17 08:33

    I was shocked the other day when watching the news. Zuma's daughter was on the news and she had asked her father(Zuma).Daddy why do you want more children. Apparently he replied to his daughter, to make the ANC Bigger. As a Christian I do believe this is a foolish statement. As a President and leader of a country it is about serving the people of the country, wether you are black, colored,white, muslim, jew, Christian. It should be about serving out of love for all people

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