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Zuma spy tapes appeal 'a delaying tactic'

2013-08-23 07:24

Johannesburg - The Democratic Alliance is to oppose President Jacob Zuma's appeal of the North Gauteng High Court decision forcing the National Prosecuting Authority (NPA) to hand over the so-called spy tapes, the DA said on Thursday.

"We are advised by our lawyers that their grounds for this appeal are flimsy and it remains unclear on what basis they can appeal at all," said federal executive chairperson James Selfe.

"This can be therefore interpreted as nothing more than a delaying tactic, at the taxpayer’s expense, to prevent this crucial information from being made public."

He said the DA would oppose their application vigorously, because South Africa deserved to know whether the decision by the NPA to drop the charges against Zuma was politically motivated.

Two principles

The DA would continue to fight the case for as long as it took and whatever the cost in defence of two very important principles.

The first was that no one, even the president, was above the law, with the second being that the NPA must be able to do its job without fear, favour or prejudice, Selfe said.

Presidency spokesperson Mac Maharaj said: "I can confirm an application has been filed for leave to appeal."

The tape transcripts and other documents relate to an NPA decision in 2009 to drop corruption charges against President Jacob Zuma.

The North Gauteng High Court on Friday ordered acting national director of public prosecutions Nomgcobo Jiba to lodge a copy of the tapes with the registrar of the court within five days.

The ruling by Judge Rami Mathopo followed an application by the DA. The party wanted to overturn the decision, announced in April 2009, by then acting National Prosecuting Authority head Mokotedi Mpshe to withdraw fraud and corruption charges against Zuma.

Comments
  • proudlysa - 2013-08-23 07:33

    Do these tapes even exist?? SA citizens must understand what is happening here. A president with over 700 corruption charges against him using State institutions to protect him from prosecution. Guys, we need to vote DA!! We simply cannot continue with the ANC. Speak to as many people as you can...not everyone has Internet and read newspapers

      Sivuyile Kulax Botya - 2013-08-23 07:41

      I agree man

      themba.maseko.568 - 2013-08-23 07:44

      Vote DA simply for fighting spy tapes. There is much more to deciding which party to vote for. I'm more concerned about the development of our people, economic growth, entrepreneurship programmes, access to water and electricity, employment (not a party that promises people free housing - whose going to pay for those hoses), respect for all citizens, general service delivery, fair treatment at work, recognition of all cultures, etc.

      Darren Roderick Kirsten - 2013-08-23 08:03

      Houses* , not hoses

      pws69 - 2013-08-23 08:19

      @Themba, I cannot understand all the thumbs down you received. You are spot on in your comment.

      Darryl Maze - 2013-08-23 08:22

      @Themba!! Why must stuff just be given to you for free???? In this world nothing is for free. When things are given to you all for free, what do you all do????? You all destroy it and have no respect at what you recieve. If you want something its called work for it but you all wont. You all just want want want. Pay your taxes, electricity and water and you will get service delivery. Also you all need to learn to clean up your townships. To lazy to throw rubbish into a bin that is two meters away from you.

      Stefan Van Der Spuy - 2013-08-23 08:26

      Well even if the ANC continues to rule I sure hope Zoomer goes. He's as corrupt as you can get.

      Carling Blacklabel - 2013-08-23 08:40

      voting for the anc is criminal! criminals (and retards) support criminals

      Jacques Shreky Stander - 2013-08-23 08:57

      Yes Themba ....... And on all those points the ANC and their corrupt president is failing miserably !!!

      Sivuyile Kulax Botya - 2013-08-23 09:01

      Themba its not that, do u see any improvement from the current leadership? Anc just need a wake up call so they can serve what they seated to do. All is corruption nothing else improves. People are boycotting but still vote 4 the same service. Its ridiculous

      Truth.speak - 2013-08-23 09:15

      Any one who still supports the ANC with all the evidence of corruption and poor service delivery, is not lekker in the kop

      Jacqui Daane Van Rensburg - 2013-08-23 10:49

      Darren Roderick Kirsten. I also make spelling mistakes, mine is caused by chemo haze if you feel inclined to correct me too.

      Lebeko Merafe - 2013-08-23 14:14

      You must be JOKING TOO.

  • Patrick Mark Ellis - 2013-08-23 07:34

    First Zuma pleads for his day in court to defend his "honour" and to prove his innocence. Then when he got the opportunity, he bent over backwards to stifle the process. Corrupt relationship with Shaky Sheihk, promiscuous and sexually irresponsible, Nkandla, Guptas, as he continues to giggle his way into the history books.

  • Hansie Crook - 2013-08-23 07:37

    Why is it that everytime President Zuma's name is mentioned you also hear COURT..... its always been like this since 2007 and before. With every court appearance whether its defamation from Zapiro or Appeal for spy tapes, Taxpayers money is used.

  • Gary Doyle - 2013-08-23 07:40

    Zuma's desperation is just showing how guilty he is. Unfortunately this will be delayed with elections coming up. Everyone deserves to know the details of the technicallity that saw the dropping of about 700 charges.

  • September Mphikeleli - 2013-08-23 07:44

    I dont think there is any types here Mphshe was underpressure he was forced to bend the rules thus why now a need head of the NPA is not appoint until you got so called acting Jiba she cant take any decition she is just a soccer ball that you can kick Anywhere

  • Andrew M - 2013-08-23 07:46

    This tactic points out very clearly than Jacob Zuma has major problems which he wishes to hide. Also remember he is using tax payer money to defend his actions.

  • Dave Ueckermann - 2013-08-23 07:46

    Geez I really pray and hope that this debacle will come to an end as I really want to see the prez FIRED from office and sent scurrying back to his home and live out his days as an ex-prez who got fired

      Steve Ritchie - 2013-08-23 08:45

      Agreed Daveu. However, he should spend the rest of his time behind bars and not in the comfort of his Nkandla mansion built at the tax-payers' cost. He must be held accountable to the people for his actions.

      Dave Ueckermann - 2013-08-23 10:05

      @Steve - Im sure this oke, prez, cant read as if he had the balls to read these comments he would realise how disliked he is . Wow imagine going to bed every nite knowing that his country, majority of residents im sure,just wish for him to dissapper.Never have I disliked anyone as much as I do him

  • Emily-Jane Elson - 2013-08-23 07:47

    If he was innocent and had nothing to hide, he'd have handed them over LONG AGO!! Wouldn't anybody else with 700(!!!!!) charges against them, possibly be sitting in jail by now?? Just because he is president does not mean he is above the law..??!! He seems yo think he is and can manipulate it however he seems fit. Disgusting.

      Naome Mokeki - 2013-08-23 08:03

      I fully agree

  • Tshephangsithole - 2013-08-23 07:48

    No tapes here,that was just a way to make sure that dual head remains in nkandlaville and enjoy reading speechies that he never writes.

  • jungleboy - 2013-08-23 07:57

    What tapes where? They dont exist.

  • Israel Levi - 2013-08-23 07:59

    They scared cause too much of lies has been spoken. No transparency, are we heading for a dictatorship. Madibas dream lays in tatters

  • Kenny Kwenamore - 2013-08-23 08:04

    The stench of corruption is choking me DELIVERY AGENTS (DA) too slow to rescue me

      Tsepo Mdlalose - 2013-08-23 08:33

      The ANC will have a BLUE monday soon

  • Jacques Shreky Stander - 2013-08-23 08:05

    Come know Showerhead , be a man (joke) face the music !!

  • Phumi Peter Ramokolo - 2013-08-23 08:07

    Ek ondersteun jou DA en jou prokureurs vir hierdie ondersoeke, asseblief veg namens ons almal,want ons is te ver met hierdie diktator en ons is te honger om teweet waar die oor daardie spioen bande. Ons wou ook alles wat en baie gou om te sien. Dankie DA!

  • Joe Smit - 2013-08-23 08:17

    Oh! So he has got something to hide....

  • David Muir - 2013-08-23 08:20

    This issue enforces my opinion that we are heading towards being a f*****g banana republic. I have three major issues here: 1) The NPA is NOT conducting itself in an unbiased manner, therefore indicating that it is not an independent body. 2) If there was nothing to hide regarding these tapes and the decisions that were made by virtue of the information that was supposedly contained on these tapes, then why go to all this trouble to keep the tapes secret? 3) I, MR TAXPAYER, is paying for all of these delaying tactics. This is once again a blatant mis-appropriation of of taxpayers money.

      David Coetzee - 2013-08-23 10:24

      We cant be a banana republic. Zuma sold the Banana's to pay for Nkandla

      Sean O'Donnell - 2013-08-23 11:20

      David, you make way too much sense...

  • pws69 - 2013-08-23 08:21

    At the end of the day, around 65% of the population have no problem with a corrupt and dishonest president. Don't blame Zuma, blame the people voting for him.

      Andrew M - 2013-08-23 08:41

      Just maybe 80% of the these 65% of the population do not have access to the media and or do not understand the situation, they only believe the local ANC members propaganda. Not to mention all the promises made when they are handed a T-shirt and a food parcel.

      Jonathan Woods - 2013-08-23 10:39

      This again raises a point that I have made many times. We should have a basic minimum qualification for voting. Not based simply on age, but on academic qualification. I would even go so far as to restrict it to taxpaying citizens only.

  • Shadrack Madingoaneng - 2013-08-23 08:22

    sure DA you are doing a good job keep up.

  • CALAMITYSA - 2013-08-23 08:22

    You're wasting more of our money Zumps, admit, resign and go and stay next to Nkandla.

  • Freddie Miller - 2013-08-23 08:22

    Is that pathetic picture really the NPA's logo, or a sad caricature of female labour and suppression?

      Nathan Lombard - 2013-08-23 11:25

      I was wondering the very same thing. Unless she is buckling under the weight of king kong's charge sheer

      Nathan Lombard - 2013-08-23 11:25

      Sheet*

  • MJS1234 - 2013-08-23 08:23

    Relax people, when they have finished recording the tapes I am sure they will hand them over....

  • Colleen Erasmus - 2013-08-23 08:23

    The paw paw is going to hit the fan and if those tapes are found to be accurate then someone is going to lose his throne!

  • Colin Steyn - 2013-08-23 08:26

    They had no choice but to appeal. It is their only option to delay the inevitable. There can be nothing favoring Zuma in the tapes. Anything that can possibly revealed will be to his detriment. But as we all know they have the ability to keep this nonsense up for many years. But let us be sure the truth WILL come out eventually.

  • James Pule Thobela - 2013-08-23 08:34

    Malema was presecuted so let it be with ZUMA GUPTA NKADLA SPYTAPE

  • proudlysa - 2013-08-23 08:35

    Is there no way that us, the taxpayers, can start a lawsuit against Zuma's abuse of our money? Surely we have a say as we are paying for this circus??? Let's sue him for all the money (millions) he has squandered on court cases. This is a disgrace......

  • Danny Letsholo - 2013-08-23 08:40

    I wonder what is he hiding zuma come on we derseve to know the trueth one day kharma will deal with you

  • Sukoluhle Ndunyana - 2013-08-23 08:41

    Zuma is a culprit he makes me angry this idiot skelm

  • Colin Steyn - 2013-08-23 08:43

    The tapes can only be one of two things 1) They can reveal NOTHING, which then nullify the grounds on which the cases were withdrawn 2) They can be even more incriminating against Zuma, strengthening te case against him. So how can you expect the poor man to allow it to be revealed ?

  • Wynand Viljoen - 2013-08-23 08:45

    Ag come on DA! Did you really think that Zuma will just let the tapes willingly be handed over? When I read the article the other day that the tapes should be handed over I knew those tapes will never be in DA hands. IF (and its a big IF) these tapes still exists you can bet your ass that it wont just be handed over to the DA without a fight.

      Zeb Moche - 2013-08-23 08:55

      The spear will make sure that those tapes won't surface, we are in trouble here, and i think some information is already missing in those tapes.

      Truth.speak - 2013-08-23 09:44

      Or 3) they do not exist

  • Richard - 2013-08-23 08:49

    Really creates bad impression if the President goes to such lengths to hide those tapes but then the impression was already bad.

  • Sicelo Sokudela - 2013-08-23 08:53

    Keep it up DA you are doing a grand job,if the spytapes are not there then all those charges must be reinstated as soon as possible and mshe must also be charged

  • Peter L Morris - 2013-08-23 08:56

    Zuma come clean

  • Arthur Salvado - 2013-08-23 08:56

    And so it will go on and on ad infinitum . It cannot and will not be released otherwise many a (influential ) person will be going to meet big baba . Stop wasting money. The ANC does as it pleases

  • Colin Malan - 2013-08-23 08:59

    Well ,well, what did we expect????? Mr. Zuma ,modern day Houdini,master of deception ,can get out of any situation,think back when he gave the NPA post to his old lackey Simelane (think was him ) suddenly all the charges were withdrawn.Mr. Zuma you are going down no matter what,as the worst President eeevvveeerrr to rule here or elsewhere.Presently galavanting in the DRC,while everyone else is fighting the fires at home.. ANC is just stumbling from one crisis to the next, their loyalist keep on defending the putrid rot. Credibility taking a bad knock,yet the masses keep them in power.

      Lebeko Merafe - 2013-08-23 14:22

      There have been far worse presidents. Like ones who shot at school children for demanding basic RIGHT.

  • Cyril Neilson - 2013-08-23 09:01

    some people tend to forget that a president of a country is not a king, monarch or god but a citizen of that country, who was voted to lead the country by the citizens of that country to serve them and the country

      David Muir - 2013-08-23 10:18

      A small correction Cyril.....no citizen of this country voted for Jacob Zuma in the national elections,they voted for a party who then chose Jacob Zuma as their candidate for the Presidency. It just once again indicates the flaws of the proportional representative system we have in our country.

  • Matome Lawrence - 2013-08-23 09:04

    I am rejoicing at the fact that our judicial system, especially the courts, have integrity and are still trusted by South Africans. The pillars of a democratic state lies on a truly independent judicial system that is fearless and executes its duties without any fear, favour or prejudice. The fact that the DA can approach the courts seeking for an order for the tapes to be released should be celebrated. Equally the fact that Zuma is able to exercise all the legal and constitutional avenues open to him should also be celebrated. The wheels of justice turn slowly , but turn they will. Let us appreciate that all citizens of this country have constitutional rights which they should be free to enjoy and exercise. I would be worried if parties like the DA lost faith in our courts as this will indicate a slip into anarchy. Let Zuma exhaust all legal avenues open to him, the same with the DA or anyone else for that matter!

  • Ndoutt Thomas - 2013-08-23 09:06

    It is Zumalution time, you cant change him. Always in front of your ideas and thinking. The sunlight boy. Yoooooooo mma weeeeeeeee.

  • Andre Malherbe - 2013-08-23 09:07

    I knew this was going to happen!

  • Oscar Malan - 2013-08-23 09:09

    Hes really not hiding the fact that he is guilty as sin

  • Vusi Malaza - 2013-08-23 09:11

    complex

  • revolutionist - 2013-08-23 09:12

    My brain is having Zuma-overload. does it ever end with this guy?

  • Truth.speak - 2013-08-23 09:13

    Dear Zumatjie, you are soooooo obvious. What are you hiding? If these tapes were used by the NPA to prevent your prosecution, then why not disclose them? Guilty as charged

  • Vusi Malaza - 2013-08-23 09:14

    This spy tapes saga is really something

  • Alan Colquhoun - 2013-08-23 09:21

    Can only read this one way - ADMISSION OF GUILT

  • Lums Zindela - 2013-08-23 09:22

    fellow South Africans, listen to me: There are no spy tapes, they never existed. The crook managed to fool us, but i hope the law will catch up with him.

  • Alan Colquhoun - 2013-08-23 09:25

    I do not see how an individual can appeal in a case where he is not one of the parties. Does this mean I can appeal any decision in anybody else's court case ??

  • Nomcebo CeeCee Thwala - 2013-08-23 09:36

    Zuma has rights just like everybody else, DA must stop being patronizing. Yes we want justice if needs to be but they must stop being bullies. I would love to see DA this active in changing lives of poor people, the society, education and other meaningful things. It's like all they want is to topple Zuma and ascend to power at all costs. They will not get my vote for as long as they focus on sitting on Zuma's Achilles heel instead of focusing on the needy people

      David Muir - 2013-08-23 10:22

      I take issue with your response. Firstly, the TAXPAYER, you and I are paying for these legal challenges. Secondly, the money used for these legal challenges, PLUS the R206Million spent on a PRIVATE residence could have brought some much needed help to the needy that you are emphasising!

      Jonathan Woods - 2013-08-23 11:00

      Nomcebo, you seem to be a nice girl with your heart in the right place, but I would encourage you to learn more about political science and government and especially the roll of opposition parties before make such statements. And this largely is one of the biggest problems we face in this country, Even the apparently educated understand so little about the processes that they are unable to make intelligent voting decisions!

      Colin Malan - 2013-08-23 11:35

      Nomcebo ,,From what planet are you ?? where have you been lately?? If it was not for the DA the ANC would have free reign to do ( not that they don't ) as they please, please , please do not let your loyalty affect your credibility

  • SydneyG - 2013-08-23 09:38

    Hear ye, Hear ye: the so called spy tapes do not exist! This was one hoax created to allow Zuma to break even; they don't exist, otherwise there's no reason why Zuma would be so uncomfortable releasing them. Remember, the tapes exposed a ring of conspirators that allegedly included the former president; and all the people who conspired against Zuma using the Arms Deal Scandal as a smokescreen? Mokotedi Mpshe, the teary liar, performed very well on the day Zuma's case was dropped and played on the emotions of people of SA; and most believed this lie! The whole spy tapes saga was a rehearsed and a properly conducted political opera. If these tapes existed, I don't see the reason why Zuma, the alleged victim, would want to protect his enemies who wanted and plotted to end his political life? The tapes exposed the 3rd force as Mpshe originally claimed! People of SA, please wake up from your sleep and stop day dreaming and hoping that one day Zuma will release these none existing tapes, this is the biggest lie in the history of politics in our new SA, the biggest; it's a SCANDAL! Secrecy Bill is one instrument that the ANC government wants to use to block all access such as the spy tapes. I rest my case...

  • Truth.speak - 2013-08-23 09:43

    Why are the good people in ANC so SILENT?

      Nathan Lombard - 2013-08-23 11:35

      Same reason that leprechauns and unicorns are silent I guess

      Colin Malan - 2013-08-23 11:39

      Truth.speak you say good people ???????? The last few and any who dare speak out, are tossed out into the wilderness.

      Truth.speak - 2013-08-23 13:45

      I know there are good people because I used to be an ANC supporter. But my conscience just simply does not allow me to support the ANC any further. Is it an African thing to keep quiet against obvious errant leaders? I am just asking ...... before you call me a racist.

  • Sarel van Deventer - 2013-08-23 09:46

    People who voted for zuma and anc should be ashamed. African national corruption. Its a disgrace. Sies! Those poor people suffering in poverty is being kept there because of all of u. Sies man!