Zuma to dispute meaning of 'spy tapes' ruling - DA

2012-10-26 21:04

Johannesburg - President Jacob Zuma will dispute the meaning of a SCA decision that he must authorise the release of the National Prosecuting Authority's "spy tapes", the Democratic Alliance said on Friday.

"The DA considers the notice filed today by President Zuma’s lawyers with great consternation," said DA Federal Executive chairperson James Selfe in a statement.

"What this notice seems to imply is that President Zuma will now dispute the meaning of what the Supreme Court of Appeal (SCA) ordered the NPA to produce."

The SCA ruled that the NPA must produce a "reduced record of decision" relating to corruption charges against Zuma being dropped.

"What President Zuma is clearly trying to do is to delay handing over the transcript of the tapes until the Mangaung [ANC national elective] conference is over," Selfe said.

The NPA has said while the SCA had ordered it to furnish the reduced record to the DA, this was contingent on Zuma's lawyers not objecting on the grounds of confidentiality.

Zuma's lawyers did object, so the NPA could not hand over the record.

The tapes supposedly contain conversations that alluded to impropriety in the course of the investigation into corruption charges against Zuma in the arms deal case.

The conversations were given as the reason why the case against Zuma was tainted, resulting in charges against him and arms company Thint being dropped.

  • bennie.kruger.5 - 2012-10-26 21:06

    Banana anyone ???

      godfrey.welman - 2012-10-26 21:21

      And he expects us not "talk the country down"

      andrew.hendrikse - 2012-10-26 21:26

      There is no accountability in this country!! Our so-called leaders have zero moral fiber!!! The rest of us are working like slaves to make a honest living, just hand over our taxes to the thieves!! What a pathetic state of affairs to be in!!!

      belinda.johnson.14661 - 2012-10-26 21:29

      Raise your Banana...& see you one

      luther.kingsley.5 - 2012-10-26 22:22

      An innocent man has nothing to fear or HIDE. Absolute disgrace that we are ruled by these immoral criminals things. For the preservation of morality we cannot accept this any longer and must force them out of power!

      jeremy.forbes.1293 - 2012-10-26 22:28

      In line with a Banana Republic wait for the cronies and beneficiaries to support JZ. They know it is handy to have a thief as President, it gives every government official the permission to go on thieving raides themselves.

      beverly.young3 - 2012-10-27 06:25

      I doubt, and I am under correction here, that anything will happen. A number of reasons; there will be a fire....everything lost. The NPA lady will vanish, a new law will pop out, "no blah blah too much time has passed" you know what I mean? We will be chewing over this for years!

  • charlesbronson.bronson - 2012-10-26 21:13

    And the truth will set you free. Sorry useless shower head. We all know you are a lying thief!! Stealing the taxpayers money for yourself!!!

  • vusumuzi.zidane - 2012-10-26 21:14

    If he is that innocent? Why he is disputing the release of spy tape? You horny junk old man!!

      godfrey.welman - 2012-10-26 21:28

      I blame the NPA as THEY we suppose to hand the records over to the DA. If NPA had difficulties (during the 6 months) they should have taken leagal steps.....Cadre appointments...Zim here we come!!!!

      atholl.canterbury - 2012-10-26 21:48

      Godfrey, you're right. The 'Spy Tapes' are NPA property ..... since they secretly recorded the telephone conversation/s. The important issue here is : .... the lawfulness of the recordings. .... the ownership of the recordings. If they are NPA owned, then they are 'state property' -- anyone in possession thereof should be prosecuted. If the recordings were without authority then the NPA Head @ the time should be prosecuted. ''' ... objecting on the grounds of confidentiality ....''' does not apply when the object (evidence) is unlawful.

      alwyn.vantonder - 2012-10-26 21:53


  • SharonE - 2012-10-26 21:16

    What on earth could he be so terribly afraid of? If he is innocent as he claims, why is he arguing technicalities? HAND OVER THE TAPES AND STOP PLAYING GAMES!!!

      Erna - 2012-10-26 21:26

      We all know he 'got off' on a technicality and is guilty as hell.

      ron.lawrance - 2012-10-26 21:33

      We know how years ago when this all started, he said he wanted his day in court. Now all he is doing is trying to avoid that day in court. Could that be because he KNOWS he is guilty????

      rontheogre - 2012-10-27 11:27

      Zuma is dependent on the legal immunity his office as president afforde him. He needs the additional time as president to have things in place so that he is beyond prosecution when he loses the presidency.

  • peter.mokoena.31 - 2012-10-26 21:19

    I saw it coming, these no longer Zuma, but the ANC is party to it now, We have ourself to blame for voting them. The honourable president is in contempt of law, so is the rest of the ANC. Cry the beloved country!!

  • steve.nagel.568 - 2012-10-26 21:19

    If you have nothing to hide just HAND OVER THE GOODS!!! Sheesh......

  • cape.gtown.1 - 2012-10-26 21:22

    I hope this guy burns, that day would be the sweetest victory!

  • johan.jacobs.5680 - 2012-10-26 21:22

    Buying, and wasting time.

  • klip.indiebos - 2012-10-26 21:32

    Only people with something to hide will act this way. The honest amonst us would share the evidence to vindicate ourselves. Showerhead you are a thief.

  • cwenga.m.jiba - 2012-10-26 21:49

    Am strengthened to resolve that Zuma is guilty of corruption and money laundering,by the virtue of the fact of his procrastination to hand over the spy tape as they were ordered by the court of law. He must sleep with his one eye open now that the\Italy’s Silvio Berlusconi sentenced to 4 years in jail in Mediaset TV rights tax fraud case. Justice will prevail one day.

  • Adeeb Saban - 2012-10-26 22:01


  • africa.tshipembe - 2012-10-26 22:07

    there are no tapes,with everything being leaked to the media everyday,these tapes would have been leaked even before Shower became prez.

  • Adeeb Saban - 2012-10-26 22:07

    I need a shower

  • andy.mku.9 - 2012-10-26 22:31

    shower to hosepipe

  • sibusisomjamisto.jama - 2012-10-26 22:34

    That my President

  • norman.buchalter - 2012-10-26 22:47

    Dear Jacob. many people were disillusioned when previous Pres Mbeki spent so much time out if the country, was accused of stalling the Aids ARV rollout, and didn't seem to be in touch with his people. When you steam-rollered into power at Polekwane, people were grateful that the Mbeki era had ended, that the sometimes aloof and academic Mbeki had been recalled. They were enchanted by the fact that you had risen through the ranks of the ANC in KZNatal, seemed to be a man of the people, someone who would put the country and its people's needs before self-aggrandizement and would pay attention to local and national rather than African problems. People thought a new era of openness and tarnsparency would follow, that the promises you made about improving life for all were not mere semantics and empty promises. Even,after the Arms deal investigation was dropped, and alleged indiscretions on your part were buried to allow you to become President, your popularity and strange culture of polygamy seemed to sweep all doubt away , doubt that you might have been the wrong choice for our country and the ANC. We at first swayed and sang along with you, sure in our belief that change for the better must come. Mr Pres, , you have let us all down, your people, your party, your country. Arms deals were resuscitated but nothing n=has come of it. You are currently still trying to suppress tapes that may implicate you in illegal activities. The descent of the ANC into a party lacking intellect..

  • norman.buchalter - 2012-10-26 22:58

    lacking intellect seems to be exposed at every turn. The country is burning from lack of service delivery and socio economic woes you have not shown any real or timely leadership to contain and address, till 6 weeks after they started. The country credit ratings have been downgraded and the knock on of inflation and the depreciating rand are for worst in decades. You continue to spin the consequences and deby that anything is wrong. You take refuge in Nkandla and its expensive upgrade rather than sleeping in the shacks of shanty town dwellers the way Jack Bloom of the DA does. Your wonderful people -friendly attitude belies your lack of insight, of wisdom and of putting service to your people before your party and yourself, The people are not fools. We are tired of lies, damn lies and of not being able to listen to those audiotapes. If you are indeed innocent, release them before Mangaung, so that we can trust you again, so that we can believe there is indeed a vision and mission in govt to address the country's ills and needs. You appear to be doing exactly what Thabo Mbeki was tried in absentia and found guilty of. That is, not staying in touch with the needs of the people. Human dignity must trump party politics. Human need and worth must trump ego and status. our country stands at a watershed now. we either continue along the path of destruction, corruption, nepotism and ignorance. I am sure , Sir, you want to be remembered as a humanitarian and as a true father of the..

  • norman.buchalter - 2012-10-27 00:37

    Father of the people, not as a buffoon who hides behind his lawyers and ministers who have to spin every mistake, challenge every court order, and who is very good at dancing his way out of trouble while allowing the citizens to wonder , as they may have done with Mbeki, if their leader is indeed a real , visible and capable leader, and not just a figurehead with what the cartoonists call a "showerhead". Next month they celebrate the 11th president of the ANC, T Mbeki, December is your turn. Do you want to be remembered as the man who turned South Africa into a better place, or for leaving no legacy to your children and grandchildre, except a succession of blunders and failures. The answer is in your hands. If you want to be re-elected, indeed if you are re-elected, use the time well and be open and transparent with us. If you are even 1% unsure that you can fill the shoes of your illustrious predecessors, like Tambo and Mandela, Luthuli, Mbeki, do the right thing, for your party and for your country , and step down, so that the legacy of intellect, wisdom, humility and self- sacrifice, integrity, fairness and responsibility , that the A n C has, can be carried forward into the future untarnished and infused again with belief in itself to uphold higher standards, ethics and morals than are currently on display to all those who once believed in you and your party to provide that "better life for all". They say:"Cometh the hour , cometh the man". Mr PresThat Hour is NOW.

  • nofikathiniskeyi.eunice - 2012-10-27 01:34

    zuma othandwa zizimuncu zodwa uwuvumi ngani ukuhlamba igama lakho ukuba uyazazi umsulwa kube kanye wenze into entle egameni lesizwe osikhokhelayo

  • jim.dickson2 - 2012-10-27 06:46

    Should he, one day, face the justice system for his transgressions, and, if guilty, found to be so, can the NPA attach Nkandla? Seeing as Public Works are paying for the upgrade it should be government property any way.

      sello.maponya.1 - 2012-10-27 15:26

      I'm starting to wonder if there were any secret tapes...

  • Vince.York - 2012-10-27 07:34

    These tapes must immediately be made public in FULL before the December mangaung farce takes place IMPEACH ZUMA TODAY INDICT ZUMA TOMORROW

  • marilyn.docherty.9 - 2012-10-27 09:26

    Is our President able to read?

  • Karel du Toit - 2012-10-27 09:51

    what spy tapes? I've got nothing to hide tell those people to bring proof of spy tapes. I only have normal tapes! hehehehe

  • karel.dutoit.50 - 2012-10-27 09:59

    'spy tapes' What spy tapes anyone with proof of me having spy tapes must come forward. Show your evidance I'm not scared. I only have normal tapes!

  • rushana.ahmed.14 - 2012-10-27 10:08

    Is he above the law or does this count to everyone belonging to the anc

  • Vince.York - 2012-10-27 10:48

    World First: Black Pigs do fly in the South African sky!

  • sandy.langenstrass - 2012-10-27 10:55

    Have your 'day in court now Mr president'... Why would you want to hide this....all it does is show how VERY GUILTY you are..... Mr surely KNOW this eventually will catch you out.

  • sello.maponya.1 - 2012-10-27 15:30

    There were no spy tapes to start with. Hence the hesitation.

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