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'Zumanami' in Mangaung

2012-12-18 14:46

Bloemfontein - President Jacob Zuma scored a thumping victory in the ANC leadership contest on Tuesday, opening the way for him to lead the country until 2019.

Zuma won the backing of 75.1% of the 3 977 ANC voting delegates at the national elective conference in Mangaung, making him the odds-on favourite to retain the presidency after 2014 general elections.

Businessman Cyril Ramaphosa won the deputy presidency of the party with 76.4% of the vote in a three-way race, beating Deputy President Kgalema Motlanthe and setting him up to become Zuma's potential eventual successor and country president.

Plots and intrigue

The vote took place despite the conference being threatened by rightwing extremists.

Police said four men plotted to kill Zuma, Motlanthe, government ministers and senior party officials. The men were charged with treason and terrorism.

Inside the conference there were also plots and intrigue.

Zuma had faced an embarrassing, if lacklustre, leadership challenge from his deputy, Motlanthe, who won 991 of the votes.

ANC secretary general Gwede Mantashe and chairperson Baleka Mbete were re-elected to their positions, with newcomers being deputy secretary general Jesse Duarte and treasurer general Zweli Mkhize, who is also the premier of Zuma's home province KwaZulu-Natal.

The scale of Zuma's victory, dubbed a "Zumanami," will take some of the heat of the embattled president.

But after three crisis-marked years in power, Zuma faces a tough slog ahead.

He will have to work hard to win back South African voters, who increasingly see the ANC as out of touch, incompetent and corrupt.

Scandals

Zuma's poll numbers have steadily eroded amid a series of scandals.

Criticism of his administration reached a crescendo earlier this year when police killed 34 striking miners in one day and it emerged that around R200m of taxpayers' money had been used to refurbish his private home.

A TNS South Africa poll released on Monday showed Motlanthe's approval ratings at 70%, while Zuma polled 52% - less than the ANC's total at the last elections.

Despite public anger at the state of the country, the ANC is likely to romp home in 2014.

The ANC has consistently received around two thirds of the vote in previous elections since the end of apartheid.

But a poor showing could exacerbate divisions within the ANC.

With the opposition Democratic Alliance gaining traction in their personalised attacks on Zuma, the ANC could face a tough scrap to retain control of provinces like Gauteng.

Ailing economy

Zuma will also face an uphill struggle to correct the course of the ailing South African economy.

Unemployment remains stuck around 25% and the economy is growing at its slowest rate in three years.

Meanwhile crucial sectors like mining have been hobbled by strikes over low wages and are struggling to modernise and reduce reliance on masses of cheap labour.

Credit ratings agencies have warned that further rating downgrades will come if the conference does not see the ANC change course.

Opening the five-day meeting Zuma tried to reassure investors that he does not back calls for mass nationalisations and that the country is not "falling apart".

Ramaphosa

The election of Ramaphosa as deputy head of the party - putting him firmly in line to become deputy president - may also assuage industry's fears.

"We are somewhat sceptical of the impact Ramaphosa can make though the market may interpret him, plus Zuma backing the National Development Plan as being a real positive," said Peter Attard Montalto, an analyst with Japanese bank Nomura.

"What we may have here then is a positive PR boost plus another investor friendly voice in cabinet but little real change on the ground and in action."

For Motlanthe the outlook seems bleak.

He ran a largely silent campaign that has sometimes appeared more like a protest than a real run at the top office in the country. Defeat leaves him in the political wilderness, with uncertainty even he will remain as the country's deputy president.

Comments
  • ancbasher - 2012-12-18 14:51

    I am glad! Let Zuma carry on his destruction of all that is good in this country for a while longer. The sooner then (maybe 2014 already) will we be able to vote in a better government and start with the reconstruction of the country to its former glory.

      Buhle Mjiyakho - 2012-12-18 15:12

      @ancbasher why dont u move 2 Australia? ur criticism of our government with soon give u hypertension. get ova it!!!!!

      bob.mcmillen.564 - 2012-12-18 15:22

      Buhle, nah we won't get OVA it, you see we demand a little more from a government and so do an ever increasing amount of ANC supporters, you are falling into the minority, and by the way your ANC are not a government, to be a government you have to govern not just fill your own belly at the trough and rely on ignornat uneducated people to just keep on supporting your greed, the writing will be on the wall by 2014.

      Deborah - 2012-12-18 15:27

      And what former glory? When was south africa ever a world power? It might have had some status as a British colony, but that was a long time ago.

      ancbasher - 2012-12-18 15:36

      The beautiful country just after the April 1994 elections maybe? The united country with the 1995 RWC perhaps? Face it - it went downhill from there at an ever-increasing rate.

      goyougoodthing - 2012-12-18 15:44

      Deborah, do some homework before you open your mouth about South Africa.

      Deborah - 2012-12-18 15:45

      Erm, with all due respect, the only beautiful thing about 1994/1995 was most people suddenly having hope for a better future. The living conditions of the majority were still horrendous, even though the minority felt temporarily guilt-free.

      ancbasher - 2012-12-18 15:50

      So is it better now? I think NOT...

      Deborah - 2012-12-18 15:58

      For those who have RDP houses, it probably IS better.

      luviwe.jay - 2012-12-18 17:58

      Debroh the RDP houses you brag about are substandart, I refuse to be treated like a second class citezen. We need employment opportunities so that we can build ourselves decent houses. I want a South Africa that is free of corruption. Call me a clever black like your presaident had already done or white painted black for not accepting mediocrity let alone incompetancy.

  • Deborah - 2012-12-18 14:52

    Well done Comrade Zuma... you are a visionary.

      ancbasher - 2012-12-18 14:56

      Deborah, the only vision this man has is double-vision when his eyes go all wonky at the sight of my tax-money.

      Deborah - 2012-12-18 15:02

      You call yourself ancbasher... sounds to me like you are a counter-revolutionary like Malema that wants to overthrown democracy?

      ancbasher - 2012-12-18 15:04

      No Sisi, all I want is an engaging, communicating, truthful, responsible and accountable government. If I need to side with Malema on this issue, then so be it.

      ancbasher - 2012-12-18 15:06

      Democracy is fine as long as it works in favour for the ANC. Otherwise it is counter-revolutionary...

      Deborah - 2012-12-18 15:11

      A better option than siding with Malema might have been joining the ANC. That way you could have gone to Mangaung and made your voice heard if you were not satisfied. The structures for democracy are there if you are really serious about using them...

      ancbasher - 2012-12-18 15:14

      Debs, I AM AT Mangaung. Did you not see me there on TV?

      ancbasher - 2012-12-18 15:15

      I will use my democratic right to remove the ANC at the polls in 2014.

      nads.delange - 2012-12-18 16:10

      Deborah, you do realise that a democracy is a state where we have the right to question the "government" (as mentioned previously, they do not govern and can thus not really be called that)? You are suggesting a one party state, where we need to just accept what they dish out. Not going to happen in this democracy!! Maybe you need to do some reading on your beloved Zuma, or do you not pay taxes and therefore you don't care whose pocket the money ends up in?

      rodney.bevan.58 - 2012-12-18 20:19

      Deborah, I can't believe your rationale. I should, I guess becasue it seems the majority of ANC voters are blind to the truth. The truth is out there, you just have to open your eyes to see what a scummy bunch of thieves and hypocrites the ANC have as leaders.

  • Mike - 2012-12-18 14:52

    5 more years of ineptitude, corruption and chaos.

      nads.delange - 2012-12-18 16:17

      They have just lost a lot of voters, this is the beginning of the end for them, I'll happily trade 5 years for a lifetime of true democracy!

  • osmaseko - 2012-12-18 15:01

    if Zuzulicious is as stupid as we are made to believe and as incompetent as they say. Please tell me why is he at the top? No racist comments shall be tolerated. This is the burning question.

      jacques.stander - 2012-12-18 15:06

      Easy , with Zuma in the drivers seat they can steal with zero accountability !!

      Brad - 2012-12-18 15:11

      "No racist comments shall be tolerated". Then there is nothing to say...

      richard.hipkin - 2012-12-18 15:12

      Because so many benefited financially off of Zuma..

      craig.thom.376 - 2012-12-18 15:20

      Do you bite the hand that feeds you ?

      oliver.lankes.3 - 2012-12-18 15:23

      and he intimidated the rest

      bob.mcmillen.564 - 2012-12-18 15:26

      osmakeko, you have your answers from Jacques and Point blank, it really is that simple.

  • francois.j.botma - 2012-12-18 15:02

    Looks like 25% of the voters did not support Zuma. If the ANC loses 25% of its votes in 2014 they will have 50% of the national vote, which is a very bad place to be looking at how the opposition parties are ganging up. Interesting year ahead!!

      ancbasher - 2012-12-18 15:23

      Interesting (and correct) analysis. Why wait for 2019?

      cameron.modisane - 2012-12-18 16:15

      Stop dreaming and lying to yourselves.

  • charles.kubhayi.3 - 2012-12-18 15:02

    Scepticism will always be there but the ANC will always come top, this is how journalists fail to recognize together with some political analysts. Scepticisms are reasons for self-interests rather than genuine analysis of the ANC and the political situation in the country and the world at large.

      Deborah - 2012-12-18 15:13

      The liberal media is controlled by the DA, it is no wonder everyone is suddenly surprised. If you were at grassroots level there would be no surprise at all.

      darryl.maze1 - 2012-12-18 15:30

      Deborah! If you have got nothing else better to say just shut up. You obviously are getting paid to say all this crap. Just dont come crying because you still dont have your RDP house by 2019.

      Deborah - 2012-12-18 15:34

      Getting paid for my writing? You flatter me, but no, this is a freebie.

      goyougoodthing - 2012-12-18 15:48

      Deborah, the liberal media (Independent Newspapers as an example) refuses to publish DA letters which conflict with ANC statements, published in all their glory. You are exhibiting classic doublespeak.

      teacher@heart - 2012-12-21 19:53

      I fail to see how the ANC “came top”. I do not measure their success by the ratings and the polls. These things are easily manipulated. Rather look at the state of the people. Let’s talk about the grassroots fasts. Unemployment rate 25% and 10m on the verge of starvation. You don’t need the so called DA reporters to tell you that, just open your eyes.

  • jacob.zoomer.9 - 2012-12-18 15:03

    Zuma: "D-d-d-ancing yeah! Dancing yeah! doef tss doef tss doef tss doef tss". He such a fool. A cringing embarrassment to SA. I will never call this oafish, clumsy, fat thief my president. As far as I am concerned, SA is in between presidents at the moment.

  • lilly.phogole - 2012-12-18 15:07

    so these blind loyalties from KZN are shoving mr SHOWERHEAD down our throats. Are they not listening to the masses. We dont want this person to be our president. We are laughing stock of international arena becuase of Mr thinkless but readonly president yhoo I cant dzeal. thats it, Madam Zille pls receive my vote come 2014 until Zumaless is recalled.

      Paul Mphap - 2012-12-18 15:11

      well said......we dont want him to be our president & our voices will be heard in 2014 national election......watch the space.

      nads.delange - 2012-12-18 16:22

      Go Lilly!! This is not a one-party state, make sure you stand up against this corruption and abuse of power that the ANC is clearly portraying! They are morally bankrupt!

  • Buhle Mjiyakho - 2012-12-18 15:08

    No1 can change the outcome of Mangaung, if u r not Happy pls go jump... this is not abt the elite or smart...the ANC has spoken.

      richard.hipkin - 2012-12-18 15:13

      Sit down. The ANC are crap.

      ancbasher - 2012-12-18 15:17

      Might have spoken, but cannot spell to save a life...

      Deborah - 2012-12-18 15:19

      Cheap shots ANC basher.. I guess you won the spelling bee?

      bob.mcmillen.564 - 2012-12-18 15:28

      Yeh the ANC has spoken, you can smell it, the stench is horrendous, their days are numbered.

      amber.rancic - 2012-12-18 15:29

      Buhle: That's the issue, smart and competent apparently doesn't count for anything. But if you think this isn't about the elite, I think you should go take a look at Nkandla, and all the other ministerial residences, and then go look at any informal settlement/squatter camp. Then tell me it's not about the elite..

      ancbasher - 2012-12-18 15:30

      As a matter of fact Deborah, Dux student at my school.

      darryl.maze1 - 2012-12-18 15:33

      The dictators have forced it Buhle. All the top ANC are becoming dictators. The ANC do not know what democeracy is anymore. The ANC has lost it's path and even Mandela is ashamed at what the ANC has become.

      Deborah - 2012-12-18 15:37

      Congrats ancbasher, that's great to know.

  • trevor.dean.10 - 2012-12-18 15:09

    At least with the ANCYL defeated, it is likely that the idea of nationalisation will be scrapped.

  • Brad - 2012-12-18 15:10

    Good news, everyone! The DA will be governing the country via coalition in 2019!

      bob.mcmillen.564 - 2012-12-18 15:29

      Exactly, and they will fight and limit the destruction and corruption this ANC will try to inflict every inch of the way.

      nads.delange - 2012-12-18 16:23

      Starting with Gauteng in 2014!

  • mholthuysen - 2012-12-18 15:11

    Cake anyone?

  • leratopaul.tuge - 2012-12-18 15:11

    This government is in serious danger if they continue to ignore 60 percent of it's voter which is young people because the truth is a government will never see the light of day without the votes that come this demographic.The ANC will ultimatly lose these voters if they have not already lost them.Our top 6 is a clear indication that this party is doing nothing to develop and include them in the decision making or to prepare us to be honest and good future leaders,the top 6 is gender balanced but there is no mixed generation no young person has been included

  • alican.francem - 2012-12-18 15:12

    Eish five years of corruption again

  • ancbasher - 2012-12-18 15:12

    The BIG FIVE of the ANC? Should it not be the FAT FIVE? Tax Money buys lots of Kentucky, né? Good thing they reinforced the stage area in anticipation for the Victory Dancing.

      Deborah - 2012-12-18 15:15

      Kentucky = racial profiling. I just ate Kentucky for lunch and I'm not even Nguni.

      amber.rancic - 2012-12-18 15:30

      Where on earth did you get racial profiling in that comment? The "Kentucky" reference has been used for ages to signify general laziness and corruption (buying of a metro cop with KFC, etc). It has nothing to do with black or white.

      jacob.zoomer.9 - 2012-12-18 15:31

      "Kentucky = racial profiling." Lol, that's just weak. Like your ANC and their ability to follow through with their own policies. I ate KFC yesterday and I am a white guy. But cause I am a 'blanke' (which is a really derogatory term), racial profiling doesn't apply to me. Apparently I can be accused as being racist, but having racial slurs thrown at me is a free-for-all and I am not allowed to complain. Happens more and more over the world.

      amber.rancic - 2012-12-18 15:37

      And now I want some KFC...

      ancbasher - 2012-12-18 15:43

      Thanks Amber and Jacob for clearing that up for Miss ANC.

      jacob.zoomer.9 - 2012-12-18 15:49

      Lol yep, just about to pop out for a family bucket and a tender... ;) I wonder if KFC is capitalizing on all this free publicity.

      Deborah - 2012-12-18 15:50

      @ jacbob: Who says you are not allowed to complain. Here you are, complaining, and nobody's stopping you. @ amber: the KFC colonal burger... 1st time in a long time, the original and best, and no, I'm not paid to say that either!

      amber.rancic - 2012-12-18 15:56

      That's it, I'm having KFC for dinner!

  • kyle.white.39750 - 2012-12-18 15:14

    You are right. Its definately not about the smart tax payers yhat fund this country.

  • ceboccd - 2012-12-18 15:16

    why is news24 allowing all these racist coments about the anc

      ancbasher - 2012-12-18 15:25

      Name one racial comment. All facts BRA...

      noeln.petzer - 2012-12-18 16:54

      @ancbasher Here is a racist comment by Deborah ... "Pale-face speak with forked tongue!" - Deborah - December 18, 2012 at 15:57

  • jacques.stander - 2012-12-18 15:16

    Only corrupt people who has NO desire to make this country better ! Would have voted for this excuse of a president we have !!

  • danie.dewaal - 2012-12-18 15:17

    Here we go again. Another term of incompetence, nepotism, curruption, spending on private property.......

      amber.rancic - 2012-12-18 15:31

      It's not like it would've been different had someone else been elected. Politicians the world over are the same..

      noeln.petzer - 2012-12-18 16:57

      @amber.rancic ... you are right ... which is why it is so dangerous to have one group of politicians with so much power for so long ... it only makes everything exponentially worst! So please, go and vote this lot OUT!

  • Michael - 2012-12-18 15:17

    And once again the ANC proves that they will do the opposite to what is good for the country.

  • tiaan.dippenaar.1 - 2012-12-18 15:19

    Oh so now the "plot" was to kill Zuma and co.? Other articles report that the arrests had nothing to do with the conference? Which one is true? I thought Kgalema Motlanthe didn't stand for Deputy President? How could he have lost? I'm so confused right now...

  • Ho3n3r - 2012-12-18 15:19

    With this retard in charge of the ANC, let's hope the masses see the light and vote for another party altogether. Not very likely, but still very possible.

  • wenzeslaus.majola - 2012-12-18 15:21

    It is amazing that racial slurs and insults hurled at Pres Zuma continue atop of a landslide victory. This says a lot about non-ANC and anti-ANC elements. My dear compatriots, especially the bitter among whites and tribalistic and white painted blacks, stop and think about those you call stupid. Maybe it's time you helped deal with their stupidity rather than throw tantrums about it. It makes you look double stupid and not South African in spirit unless, of course, you are South African by default and not truly committed to its welfare

      amber.rancic - 2012-12-18 15:33

      I'm amazed that you can start off by decrying "racial slurs and insults", and then proceed to address "white painted blacks". Log, anyone?

      Don.Tandy - 2012-12-18 15:35

      Some people have the vocabulary to sum up things in a way you can understand them. This quote came from the Czech Republic Main Daily Newspaper Editorial. Someone over there has it figured out. "The danger to South Africa is not Jacob Zuma but a citizenry capable of entrusting a man like him with the Presidency. It will be far easier to limit and undo the follies of a Zuma presidency than to restore the necessary common sense and good judgment to a depraved electorate willing to have such a man for their president. The problem is much deeper and far more serious than Mr. Zuma, who is a mere symptom of what ails South Africa. Blaming the prince of the fools should not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of fools that made him their prince. The Republic can survive a Jacob Zuma, who is, after all, merely a fool. It is less likely to survive a multitude of fools such as those who made him their President.”

      wenzeslaus.majola - 2012-12-18 15:52

      Shut up Don.Tandy. Your hatred far outweighs your rationality.

      wenzeslaus.majola - 2012-12-18 15:56

      Amber.rancic you knoe exactly what I am saying. Dont play dumb because I may see you as such. The thumbs up for you comment are clear indications you have an equally dumb audience

      nick.vuletic - 2012-12-18 15:59

      Ra ra ra *wait for it* Raaaaaaaace Caaaaaard! Woohoo!!! Its the race card everybody! How intellectual of you wenzeslaaaaaauuuusssss. You related to gerald majola by any chance? Wahahaa

      richard.strong.9026 - 2012-12-18 16:25

      I am amazed that you can be so racist wendy007. You attack anyone who disagrees with Zuma being re elected. Even the blacks who disagree are now racist. Just because we disagree with it does not mean we are racist it just means we are educated. Why do you think the ANC government is dragging its feet with education???? To keep the masses voting for them. Simple when you look at it. Its so easy to manipulate the uneducated and keep them believing that you are going to give them that nice house and car and fidge and .... you get my drift.....

      nads.delange - 2012-12-18 16:41

      HA HA HA HA HA!!! Ah, thanks Wendy for being my entertainment today! Of course the race card is always the first one to be played by someone who has no real argument. Zuma has been exposed for who he is, over and over and over again. People voting for him are idiots. They could be any race, I don't really care, they are stupid. And you know what, we are allowed to complain and voice our opinion, because this is a free country with a right called freedom of speech, and we didn't vote for this idiotic goverment so of course we're going to complain!!

      noeln.petzer - 2012-12-18 17:00

      Tutu is praying for the end of this corrupt government ... but I suppose wendy007 would say the the Arch does not care about South Africans?

      amber.rancic - 2012-12-19 08:45

      So the fact that I called you out on your statement makes me dumb? Once again, I think we have someone in need of a dictionary.

  • Prince Kgwale - 2012-12-18 15:22

    Motlanthe just resign from corrupt party and leave the Zulus with their party. ANC must brace themselves 2014 will be tough for them. My vote wont go to Zuma.

      noeln.petzer - 2012-12-18 17:01

      Be careful of the mfecane ... I hope it does not happen, but who knows?

  • Ubabamkhulu - 2012-12-18 15:23

    A Notional Conversation If we could address all leaders in the ANC. A look upon your beauty, but we see a mourning and deep wretchedness. Man, what is it that causes such pain? Withdraws in the depth of my soul there is a gathering of Ancestors, said mother earth. His every existence disturbs with what is heard. Mind, what do you seek? “I probed the desolation of the souls I keep in my depth.” From this the Congress of the Ancestors consequently to my concern, revealed. His ANCestors venerated by the Leaders who adopted the Freedom Charter at Kliptown in 1955. Appointment to raise our children to mountain tops, beautiful, the world at their feet. Of which, we, the ANCestors, fought for freedom in the valleys of Azania, were slayed and buried, knowing that one day our children will benefit from our struggle. President, you promised, “I will build and rebuild this place in honour of you, our Ancestors.” And it rings through our ears, since the creation of the ANC. Do we keep silence any longer? It is a generation later, we cannot! Not worshipping your ANCestors like you should. Apply empty meanings of arrogant devotion, are you! It is what you really seek, children of South Africa . . . As you desire that we continue to build for you from beyond the grave? Sincerely we only receive empty meaning from you, To liars and tyrants, stealing from our descendants, we feel resentment.

      Ubabamkhulu - 2012-12-18 15:23

      The ANCestors shall command final destruction? Virtuous our current leaders do not possess, Of which you have implanted your own wicked and impostors amongst you. The youth whom have no intellect and understanding drives you Calling yourself, the only superpower of the continent. If singing a song from others as your own national anthem honourees you. In there is no roar, just the imitation of a lion, like an insane Wish. Serving, you are not, yet you refuse to see others as equals. His cronies name townships, places and streets after us, your Ancestors. Country filled with the souls of our children suffering the twinges of hunger. He destroys the infrastructure and drinking water. Can we take revenge on you for using our names and then destroy our heritage? Exert yourself, you have declared for the world to know, His People will govern! Utmost to all that matters, “All National groups shall have equal rights”! “Strength not to spare neither with courage we will build”, you proclaimed. If the truth cannot be changed, and nor will it pass away, In the ebbing and flowing of the sea, the winters and summer pass. Serving the unrighteousness, the violent abuse of “all shall be equal before the law”! His leadership and the leaders of the African National Congress, futile.

      Ubabamkhulu - 2012-12-18 15:24

      People why do you allow him to venture and blemish its countenance? He, whom has been called in silence during all those vigils, Can we remind you of the doors and of Learning and Culture that shall be opened? Devote to the future, but your learners called “educational refugees” and without text books. His disconcerted and slumbered account, in spite. Life is the enemy, Apartheid is to be blamed! If only, we must Nationalise and grab the land. In whom is the enemy? But look inside, you are to blame! His promise “There shall be Houses, Security and Comfort”! Intercourse and rise, the youth has the nation locked in fear. With parading after procession, threatening all those who attempt the same. His promise, “there shall be Peace and Friendship” seems far from Kliptown. Followers and all go to the plain, we plead. His transgressions to be revealed to the illiterate, you so want to stay uneducated. Words spoken from the Ancestors, can unveil your iniquities. Are you running from policy conference to the unions’ congress. Sincere as we have loved you, comrades, but the pain is un-bearing. And the hatred of the people is slowly rising from the squatter camps. Although labour protest growths, your next big challenge . . . Men with pangas and assegais sweeping away the euphoria of 1994!

      Ubabamkhulu - 2012-12-18 15:24

      Say us, the Congress of Ancestors, have sympathised your weakness. That we have despised your slothfulness, and corruption amongst your cadres. He will we see your infirmity and abominate your carelessness. Has the Courts not rule on your inability to govern? I and all have cried over your humiliation. Will the Spear be of your own doing? Certainly our tears streamed like crystalline. Say we, removing the veil from our eyes. That today, all are mocking at your foolishness. He highlights the darkness from your inner self. Has not the laughter from your African brothers, arose like a raging thunder “Not before eternity comes, will others govern”, you proclaimed. You, “From Bondage to Struggle, from Struggle to Freedom,” Mister, “From Freedom to Power, from Power to Corruption,” Zuma, “From Corruption to Abuse, from Abuse to bondage.” Has the white man made the full circle, you to follow in quick pursuit! Been in power, what is it that you desire, comrades? Weighed your successes, for me to show you an empty register. And look, your fear has turned democracy in more rights for the majority. You have obscured hollows over your eyes as a result of your overindulgence.

      Ubabamkhulu - 2012-12-18 15:25

      People in misery is your Crime. The ANCestors do not forgive you Your sins, for you know what you Are doing. Ancestors are anxiously awaiting your arrival with anger and resentment! Will insects and vipers infest your wealth earned from corruption? Not because you despise greatness, your venerated Ancestors, dislike your attitude! Tolerate ignorance but we despise you because you despise yourselves. Your enemy from here forth, your ANCestors, for you refuse to realize who you are. Arrogance abound and the nemeses of your children.

  • amber.rancic - 2012-12-18 15:24

    Zumami, not Zumanami! If you want to appropriate jokes to use in headlines, at least get the joke right :)

  • mpumelelo.matross - 2012-12-18 15:25

    I'm moving to Australia

      ancbasher - 2012-12-18 15:32

      No Stay! Them Bruces don't want us over there.

      noeln.petzer - 2012-12-18 17:03

      STAY! South Africa needs you!

      richard.nhlebela - 2012-12-18 21:58

      Mpumelelo pls go well to Australia, and swallow your anger and disappointment. The majority of ANC voters aren't foolish. They are not victims of South African media + DA +COPE+etc. Why dont you open COPE2. Zuma will lead South Africa despite your .... Viva Zuma!!!!!!

  • nomsa.chabalala.5 - 2012-12-18 15:33

    No tender till 2019 if you didn't have it before.stick to your job.

  • angela.nair.3 - 2012-12-18 15:33

    The Zumites have a clean sweep - technically the opposition was massacred! Wonder where all those Kgalema supporters are hiding! And Fikile ha ha - this should shut him up! Well lets see how this all works out - not too many academics - which is what we need more of. And its time we had more people like the Public Protector to look after our interests and our money! With one Public Protector it takes too long to find all the corruption and while she is busy the carry on looting - A loot I continua!

  • nick.vuletic - 2012-12-18 15:33

    Seriously now, who is the idiot who didn't squish MR 2 brain cells before he laid eggs, now look...a full blown infestation has occurred! Worse then a locust horde, only knows how to consume. Viva comrades! Viva eish we want more...how, eish,dem these whites dem apartayt eish hiwena!

  • Silas Hlahla - 2012-12-18 15:34

    congratulations Mr. president!

      nads.delange - 2012-12-18 16:29

      Yip, congratulations indeed, he just saved our country, 5 more years and then the ANC will be a distant ugly memory.

  • candis1306 - 2012-12-18 15:38

    When will the people of the country learn, if the way things are going is not testament to his lack of leadership skills then I really dont know. Still he is voted to be kept in power, so the downfall continues...

      noeln.petzer - 2012-12-18 17:06

      Not true candis1306 ... I am convinced there is a lot of cheating going on at the polls ... I do not believe the ANC has or will have even 50% of the vote in 2014 BUT the apparent results will give them +60% ... they will learn from ZANU-PF how to cheat the polls ...

  • fulufheloprogiga.mukhodobwane - 2012-12-18 15:43

    I 4cee danger, da worst its yet 2come.

      noeln.petzer - 2012-12-18 17:09

      True ... but it is darkest before the dawn ... there is a better day coming ... but we need to go through the valley first ...

  • capetowntownshiptours - 2012-12-18 15:49

    Ja Zuma! you must quickly build another house for your family for 300million in Camps Bay. Leave all the mamparas who vote for you in the dust.

  • musa.mohapi.3 - 2012-12-18 15:50

    Well done Mr president I wish you all the best.

  • Erna - 2012-12-18 15:50

    If I was Motlanthe I would immediately resign, before zuma could reshuffle me.

      luviwe.jay - 2012-12-18 17:11

      I hope he wait for him to do that just like JZ to TM and played victimhood which worked wonders for JZ.

  • sthira.ngcobo - 2012-12-18 15:55

    the Mohlanhte camp was a disaster,If u dont lky Zuma camp move to Australia we won kwaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

      george.pito - 2012-12-18 16:02

      He He the evidence is in the rest of Africa my friend. Zuma won not you. What he won, he or you dont understand. He won only tax payers money. A person with so little education so many wifes so much corruption how on earth can anybody vote for this. Australia not bad., But you will never understand this. Name me any succes story in Africa

      herman.letlalo - 2012-12-18 16:57

      what about botswana, namibia, nigeria

      herman.letlalo - 2012-12-18 16:59

      what about botswana, namibia, nigeria and greece, or sorry, the last one is not african neh?

      herman.letlalo - 2012-12-18 17:00

      what about botswana, namibia, nigeria and greece, or sorry, the last one is not african neh?

      noeln.petzer - 2012-12-18 17:11

      @herman.letlalo ... didn't the ANCYL want regime change in Botswana?

  • amber.rancic - 2012-12-18 15:58

    Check out the number of posts that disappear - seems the News24 moderators are out in force, clicking away :)

  • Noel Skhona Nkomo - 2012-12-18 15:58

    Hands up Zuma

  • themba.nsele.71 - 2012-12-18 16:04

    Big thumbs-up Mr. President, and your top six. You are the only team that can keep on protecting this country and keep on changing the lives of the people. Some have been blinded and keep on accusing you of the charges even though no court had found those charges. Some are accusing you of marrying your loved once and they want to lecture you about polygamy, even though they keep on cheating to their wives and husband, spreading aids. Some have accused you of building you house is Nkandla even though rural development is one of the priority to be fixed as resulted from the grou8g areas act. Some are accusing you of not having education and they forget that leaders are born and not resulting from education. Some are accusing you of tribalism and they forget you live a humble and hornet’s life you do not leave a fake life. You are the symbol that must be adopted by all men in this country both blacks and whites.

  • Tshepo Tyma Nathan - 2012-12-18 16:05

    carry on JZ, carry on from where u left from and destroy the organization. As for me, sorry baba u won't have my vote this time. Ke lapile ke wena rra.

      aroka.murombe - 2012-12-18 16:14

      Kelaka lewo

  • khaya.blaai.1 - 2012-12-18 16:05

    Most of your comments in this page are informed by hatred and I also suspect racism. You cannot insult ANC members for choosing their President simply because it is not your preferred candidate. If you want to have a voice in ANC affairs, I advise that you acquire ANC membership first and joins the progressive forces

      noeln.petzer - 2012-12-18 17:13

      Whats progressive about the information bill? Seems more like a fascist right wing thing than anything progressive?

      SiquB - 2012-12-19 10:45

      Khaya these people are racists and they lack common sense,the only way to have a say in ANC is simple join and vote for the president of your choice or shut up finish and klaar !!!

  • rensburgmark - 2012-12-18 16:06

    I wish I could explain in only a few words how happy I am regarding this outcome. Zuma with a smile from ear to ear, and the corrupt following drunk in their own madness. THIS I PROMISE will be the last of the ANC. Whatever they the ANC had left was sold to a drunk pretending to be a wine collector. They will push one more time for the secrecy bill, and will fail hands down. There last two years in power will be known as the days the generals ran from the palace with silver ware. Their children will carry the burden of a father of disgrace. Smile with the golden tooth, soon a nation will triumph yet again, against your selfishness, corruption, and utter disrespect for ordinary people seeking a brighter future IN THIS OUR BELOVED COUNTRY SA!

  • izan.botes.7 - 2012-12-18 16:07

    that conference was a circus! i had such a laugh just seeing how stupid they looked and sound. i wonder what the civilized world thought when they saw those barbarians. i have no more sympathy for them anymore let them die undedicated, hungry, poor and without roofs over their heads.

  • lucky.mabunda.92 - 2012-12-18 16:10

    Zuma you won, so you must marry another wife and build another house(complex) for 400 million leave those who vote for you in the shacks.

      amber.rancic - 2012-12-19 08:46

      Oh heck, please don't give him ideas!

  • mavis.siamisang - 2012-12-18 16:14

    Hope , the world is really ending on Friday.....mxm

  • bongi.bankumbi - 2012-12-18 16:14

    Just admit it.Zuma was chosen guys.come to terms with that coz nothing will or can change that.its bad for the opponent and good for the other side.i think still 2014 will bring him some goodies as long as you keep on saying Zuma this Zuma that.nothing can be changed over night and bear in mind that South Africa is large country so slowly but surely guys.lets see if he will rectify his mistakes and then will take from there.remember people change.no offence to those who might be offended.

      nads.delange - 2012-12-18 16:32

      Oh we are happy Bongi, this is the beginning of the end for the ANC and their incompetence, corruption and abuse of power. Finally we will have a government worthy of that name! 2014 Gauteng, 2019 SA!

      Bob - 2012-12-18 16:46

      What a load! Countries such as Germany and Japan have done far, far larger scale reconstructions to their nations than SA needed to do by 94, and they did it in just a few years max. What has ANC done?

  • dumisani.mbense - 2012-12-18 16:14

    Just after 1994 felicia mabuza asked a question on her show(sabc 1) why whites are always complaining?by that time mandela was incharge and it's very suprising that all of a sudden mandela has become a hero to most whites.till today you are still whining.I bet you will never be happy until a black person is voted out of power.

      noeln.petzer - 2012-12-18 17:16

      Racist statement ... do not reply to this troll!

  • gary.evans.1257 - 2012-12-18 16:14

    Another cANCer nail into South Africa's coffin. 5 more years of being dictated to, by a turkey brained idiot , who believes that he can bulldoze his way to stealing more taxpayers money. I guess by the time he finishes his "new " house he can hibernate there when his term runs out.

      magabanedavid - 2012-12-18 16:26

      he wouldn't last although we have options. there are parties that are willing to work for the nation. so he better forget about votes from the provinces that were against him in 2014.

      SiquB - 2012-12-19 10:53

      Go jump ! or go to Australia,ha,ha,ha

  • annette.duvenhage.1 - 2012-12-18 16:15

    God Help us ..... tha is all we can ask.