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Malema to face criminal charges

2011-10-20 14:06

Johannesburg - AfriForum is to lay a criminal charge against ANC Youth League president Julius Malema for reportedly encouraging people to take land without permission.

AfriForum said on Thursday that its action was prompted by a report in the Beeld newspaper that quoted Malema as saying: "If they don't want to give the land over to us, we must take it without their permission."

AfriForum said: "According to a legal opinion... this behaviour of Malema in itself constitutes the criminal offence of incitement to sedition, for which he can be criminally prosecuted."

Malema reportedly made the remark on Wednesday while addressing residents in Thembelihle, south of Johannesburg, about the ANCYL's planned marches for "economic freedom".

ANCYL spokesperson Floyd Shivambu declined to comment on AfriForum's plans.

The civil rights body said it would lay the charges at the Wierdabrug police station in Centurion at 15:00 on Thursday.

Comments
  • Dean - 2011-10-20 14:11

    Click, click, BOOM! See ya in hell Juju.

      Piet - 2011-10-20 14:42

      Ndlamini Show me one really successful African country

      Bryan - 2011-10-20 14:44

      @Ndlamini.. After all these years of colonization and hardship you have suffered..,at least you have managed to learn one very important thing, Copy and paste..well done sunshine!!

      mastersvoice - 2011-10-20 14:45

      "A study confirmed this"! A study has also proven that research causes cancer in white rats! Ndlamini - if you want to be taken seriously, then don't hog the forum and don't insult our intelligence.

      NrGx - 2011-10-20 14:48

      @Ndlamini.... Hidden in your words, or quite blatant atually, everything is racial, race this, whites that... so tell me whose the racist here???

      Skinfaxi - 2011-10-20 14:53

      @ Ndlamini - Racism assumes certain characteristics or mannerisms of a person based solely on his or her race. When you say “They're all racist” then you make the same assumption which puts you in EXACLY the same class as the people that you apparently hate so much.

      Johan - 2011-10-20 14:54

      Ndlamini, ...and who is to blame for their (blacks) misery in the rest of Africa, ....where there are no whites...???

      Ndlamini - 2011-10-20 14:55

      It's not an assumption. It's based on a scientific study. Why are you assuming that I'm assuming?

      Derek - 2011-10-20 15:01

      Ndlamini, a lot of what you say resonates bu twhat of the new generation "whites" who if they are discriminated against will simply leave the country butI guess that is what you wanted to hear. There are now less and less whites being blamed for more and more including those that stood shoulder to shoulder with "black" South Africans in the struggle.Did the "whites" allow 5-6 million (or more ) to swarm into SA and compete for resources. Did the "whites" plunder the state coffers in the new democracy to the unbelievable extent of the present, money which could have helped uplift so many South Africans, do the "whites" encourage huge families, teenage pregnancies and the poverty that most often accompanies unbridled population growth. And lastly there are many whites who do and want to continue making a difference but this ongoing "war-talk against us sure isn't helping! For goodness sake,you don't create wealth by taking it from one person and giving it to another

      Werner - 2011-10-20 15:02

      Ndlamini you are a scientific study

      Thandiwe - 2011-10-20 15:05

      Malema is an evil fascist, racist criminal - he will burn in hell. He is ruining the rainbow nation and the economy. I own a small business manufacturing seals and pumps, and I have bought my own small-holding. No need to steal anything. You CRIMINAL MALEMA!

      Thandiwe - 2011-10-20 15:09

      Shut up Ndlamini - it is people like you that belittle our achievements. Look at other former colonials like Singapore (no poverty there). Get off your bum and create a business. There is opportunity to all who take the opportunity to take it - be enterprising - create a small business! The countries problems can be solved by less Labour regulation..I want to take on 5 apprentices but alas COSATU are against youth wage supplement. We are free to start a business, we are free to hire who we like, we are free to buy what we like with our money. WE ARE FREE - politically and economically. Stop belittling Madiba's achievements of non-racialism - stop trying to mess up the economy and businesses like mine.

      Ann - 2011-10-20 15:12

      @ Ndlamini - 10 responses - you seem to warm to your subject :)

      Iwan - 2011-10-20 15:14

      Ndlamini "Don't be fooled into thinking that the only racist white people are the conservative afrikaners on the far right... They're all racist, even the ones that appear liberal." Well, thanks for that, you really helped with this battle I had within me.....now I know, I'm racist because of my skin colour. Gawd, are you sooo stupid that you don't see the irony in your posts.

      Riëtte - 2011-10-20 15:14

      @ Ndlamini, please bear in mind that the poor black people are now being oppressed by the ANC, a.k.a black fatcats... Go read the papers on how Zuma spent R440million on renovations while RDP houses are of such poor quality they get blown over by a strong wind. U are spouting nothing than racist uneducated drivel, exactly the type of shiz the ANC is feeding you. Do you honestly think that brainless rat Malema gives a hoot about poor people whilst living the high life in Sandton and wearing clothes worth more than a house?? Wake up you fool, you are taken for suckers by your comrades.

      DuToitCoetzee - 2011-10-20 15:16

      @Ndlamini and The Editor. I do not know why I have this feeling that your part/the first part is a copy and paste. I red this all before on another article before. I do not blame you for that because if I look at the time of comments and the similar response on it I realized that I saw this before 13:30 because that was when I left my pc and I have return back 5 min ago. In short. The times of placing does not correspond because I do not have a crystal ball to see things in the future. My only answer is that the editor place a new, but close enough article and copy and paste these comments. So Mr./Ms. Editor am I right or do I experience some dja vu???????? If I am wrong I do apologize, but.... If I am right I ask you kindly not to take us for a "gat" O yes! I have copy and safe this remark and can paste it a 100 times. I am having the whole day and night available so please answer me. I am getting worried that I can see the future...or can I?

      Sharmay - 2011-10-20 15:16

      Ndlamini - dont you have anything else to say, you have posted this around various articles this last week - are you not also known as "Overprivilaged"?

      Thandiwe - 2011-10-20 15:19

      @Ndlamini - you are a racist. You obviously hate Madiba and all he stood for - especially the non-racialism?!! I employ a white man, a coloured man and three black men - and we are all great friends - something you would hate to see. I have explained to my workforce how Malema's policies would destroy the economy, including my company and ultimately their jobs and livelihoods. I urge ALL OF YOU to do the same with your work colleagues and anyone you employ.

      Joanne - 2011-10-20 15:52

      Weird - even with the new FB login, my comments (which are not hate speech or incendiary in any way) get removed in place of all the raving of one commentor above!? I'm not sure that this system protects the site from trolls at all..

      shaficks - 2011-10-20 15:52

      Ndlamini you wasting precious time commenting all this crap..GO OUT AND SAVE THE WORLD!! And don't forget your cape.

      Thandiwe - 2011-10-20 15:58

      @Thamsanqa - do you want to be unemployed for evermore? If so support Malema. State handouts will dry up too with Malema's policies, as the incoming taxes will be non-existent, thanks to companies collapsing (like mine potentially) left, right and centre! We are economically free to set up businesses and to buy whatever we like (I have just bought a small farm). Don't let Malema degrade us by telling us we are incapable of doing these things - he is belittling us!

      nasheenar - 2011-10-20 16:00

      @Bryan ....LOL! @Ndlamini why dont we concentrate on South Africa. Hate speech doesnt help the cause.

  • jesomerville - 2011-10-20 14:18

    has afriforum got nothing else to do ?????

      Sganja - 2011-10-20 14:22

      No they don't

      Kevin - 2011-10-20 14:28

      you useless

      jesomerville - 2011-10-20 14:33

      seems afriforum name has changed to malemasforum hahahahahaha cause i dont see them doing anything else

      mastersvoice - 2011-10-20 14:48

      It does seem to be a rather senseless action. Perhaps AfriForum should change their name to Anti-Malema.

      Willie - 2011-10-20 14:52

      In the next general election they need to run so that we can see their support Kom mense,doen dit vir die volk, kom afriforum

      Trevor - 2011-10-20 15:06

      you guys are blinded by politics! This is an ACTUAL crime he committed, it is WRITTEN in the law books! Because he is a black politician, the law doesn't apply? Before you guys comment senseless comments, use your brain and research first! I quote from Wikipedia. "Hate speech is, outside the law, any communication that disparages a person or a group on the basis of some characteristic such as race, color, ethnicity, gender, sexual orientation, nationality, religion, or other characteristic.[1][2] In law, hate speech is any speech, gesture or conduct, writing, or display which is forbidden because it may incite violence or prejudicial action against or by a protected individual or group, or because it disparages or intimidates a protected individual or group. The law may identify a protected individual or a protected group by race, gender, ethnicity, nationality, religion, sexual orientation, gender identity,[3] or other characteristic."

      mastersvoice - 2011-10-20 15:11

      Trevor - its alleged he committed this crime. Our law says "innocent until proven guilty". If AfriForum are serious about their impact on South Africa and who they represent, they'd be more attentive to their timing of anti-Malema actions. I think they've lost their focus, and become obsessed with Malema.

  • Denzil - 2011-10-20 14:19

    We cannot afford for such a genius to be walking around in South Africa We need to share his knowledge. We must take his brain away from him. If he refuses ... we must just take it. Its for the people.

  • Myvision - 2011-10-20 14:20

    Does this Afriforum have any other programs except the Julius Malema division?

      Felix - 2011-10-20 14:25

      Does Julius have any other programs other than segregate based on colour?

      mastersvoice - 2011-10-20 14:51

      If they do Myvision, they are hiding it very well. If they had any common sense, they would let the ANC sort him out. Look how he has affected those who cannot think for themselves (points to Ndlamini)

      Levett - 2011-10-20 14:57

      Ndlamini you're obviously uneducated so don't come here to waste others time with your ignorance. Hamba!

      Jaco - 2011-10-20 15:09

      @Ndlamini. Just like the whites, blacks are not the native inhabitants of South Africa. The only people who can rightfully claim SA as theirs are the Koi-San culture. This country needs the upliftment of all blacks, but not by pulling down all whites. And that is exactly the agenda with processes such as BEE. Where are the building blocks to wealth i.e. education gone? Where are the once mighty teachers colleges? Where are the training centres for trade skills? The government is missing the most IMPORTANT factor to wealth creation - education and knowledge!

      Peter - 2011-10-20 15:13

      @Ndlamini, if we didn't show up you would still be living in a mud hut!! It is people like you that are the problem in this country stop bitching and moaning and do some work to get ahead! I had a number of black friends in high school with me 11 years ago and they are doing well for themselves. Nothing was ever handed to my family because we were white, my father went out and worked hard to get to where he did. Why is it the lazy people black, white, indian, coloured always blame the past for their useless lives? Get over yourself, Malema must burn for his statements and for trying to undo so many years of hard work to get things right in our country.

      Felix - 2011-10-20 15:28

      Bahahahaha, so panafricanis (aka Ndlamini)you were all having a lovely tea party on your manor estates and luxurious golf courses before the white man arrived? We are (trying to) building a multiracial society based on acceptance here in SA, F Off back to Zim you Zanu PF agent.

      Myvision - 2011-10-20 16:59

      @ Felix, are you saying we have all been a united nation until Malema came along?

  • Santapola - 2011-10-20 14:24

    This faceless minority organisation is starting again neah..eish....why cant they leave their leader alone coz they failed period

      Jason - 2011-10-20 16:41

      Julius Malema is not our leader, nor Afriforums, and will never be!!

      Ari - 2011-10-20 16:51

      Huh????

  • rod.vandeventer - 2011-10-20 14:24

    Lets all sing together: Good good good good good good good goooooooood

  • brett.macdonald1 - 2011-10-20 14:24

    In the same way that Malema is cherry-picking the Freedom Charter to give credence to his agenda, it is quite a funny twist that in that same way Afri-Forum could actually incite the very same Freedom Charter to justify their taking legal action against Malema, since the Freedom Charter clearly says: "The preaching and practice of national, race or colour discrimination and contempt shall be a punishable crime;" ;) LOL

  • motsoka - 2011-10-20 14:28

    AfriForum should change its name to AntiJuliusMalemaForum.... Don't they have better things to do like "help" Farmers

      Deon - 2011-10-20 15:44

      They are helping farmers in getting Malema in line.

      motsoka - 2011-10-20 15:46

      Oh they are... Its never reported until Malema does or says something! White people sometimes really u just a funny group of people! They obsessed with Malema! Sad

      WarrenStylin - 2011-10-20 16:22

      Non racist people that want this country to success for everyone needs a voice. They are the voice. If we keep leaders like JM we become like the rest of Africa. Is that what you want? Poor and at war.

  • Paul - 2011-10-20 14:29

    @Sganja So racially discriminating songs and encouraging people to steal land (which sounds very familiar to a wonderful country north of our border) and probably kill somer farmers while they are at it should just be left unchallenged?? Wake up you idiot

  • Jaco - 2011-10-20 14:29

    Seems like AfriForum only guns for Melema. But who else stands up and challenges his insistent racism, inciting of violence and talks of government cu-de-ta’s? Certainly not the ANC themselves, they are too scared to take appropriate action!

  • Nic - 2011-10-20 14:29

    I'm waiting for afriforum to take up the cause for the Indians over malemas latest racial slur

      Oboa - 2011-10-20 14:58

      Nic, Afriforum represents the minority Afrikaner group in South Africa. As far as 'n know the Indians and Afrikaners are not the same group. I might be wrong.

      Oboa - 2011-10-20 16:01

      You can stick your thumbs down up your @sses.

      nasheenar - 2011-10-20 16:10

      We need an Indiforum!

      Oboa - 2011-10-20 16:19

      LOL! Nasheenar, good one!

  • Sue - 2011-10-20 14:31

    cannt they just ziplock his mouth

  • Janice - 2011-10-20 14:31

    This man is getting himself deeper and deeper in the sh*t every second!!!

  • Stefan - 2011-10-20 14:35

    So I take it SA is going into Civil War.... Julius Malema should wake the F*#% up!! he thinks were all stupid and that we dont know what hes doing... Just because an Idiot like him has a say, and no other person has doesn't mean that he should run the country... Its sad to see that the Government only makes 1% of South Africa, and the people make the other 99%... and its even worse to see that the 99% doesnt even stand up for their own rights...

  • Kevin - 2011-10-20 14:35

    A typical Fat useless boy statement. fat boy and his thugs should rather go down on his knees and be thankful that the whites brought civilization to Africa, be thankful for all the clever things we invented.Theft was not on our agenda and if any thug wants to occupy my land I will kick his ars# till his nose bleeds. If they want land I have looked on the internet and there are lots of houses and farms for sale.Save and pay like the other 7 billion people in the world. Come on zoomer , lock the thug up.Also land seekers can ask fat boy where he got 16 million for a house

  • Marion - 2011-10-20 14:51

    This is not the first time that JM has made this statement. I have seen him talking on tv previously where he said the same thing. I know he has this illusion that he is Nelson Mandela's equal, but I think he is trying too hard to follow in Madiba's footsteps.

  • Derk - 2011-10-20 14:53

    Ndlamini go play in the traffic

  • Charmain - 2011-10-20 14:57

    whi is going to shoot the stupid thing not even his own people like him he is worse that shark sh8t at the bottom of the sea.

  • Paul - 2011-10-20 15:04

    Ndlamini why don't you shut up and go make another kid while you convince yourself that Africa is actually prospering. Such ignorance is so annoying

  • Charmain - 2011-10-20 15:05

    ndlamini u are just as stupid as jm i am a white peson and not rich, leave us whites alone for now, u and yr anc asswiped have stuffed up this country never to get it right again u poor people are always on about apartheid years so are plenty of white they should go in the same boat as u and drown

      Michael - 2011-10-20 15:26

      "Thwarting all complaints by saying Africans are "whining" and need to "get over it", "stop finger pointing," this is used as a blanket argument when they get stuck. Africans are therefore suppose to suck up and take their oppression."

  • tristan.kilian - 2011-10-20 15:06

    Julius Malema is inciting white people to rise up against him – just as he is inciting black people to rise up against oppression - so basically he is going to cause a civil war. And we were all living peacefully together until a few years ago. The hard work of all those like Mandela and Tutu is being eroded. It is so painful to watch this. We are all such nice people - all South Africans. We can live together wonderfully if it weren't for those that incite hatred amongst us. Redressing the past is like trying to get rid of a tattoo. You will always have a scar there. It will all take time. And I'm sorry, but to read some of these comments below about white domination having to be redressed I feel truly saddened. Isn't it enough that we have BEE, a virtually entirely black run government and a whole list of other policies to redress the past? It's been made law! For crying in a bucket! It's not going to happen overnight... The opportunities are all there. As a young black man in South Africa their is far more help to succeed then a young white man ever had during apartheid.

  • Dave - 2011-10-20 15:13

    I am truly saddened about the way many of the youth have been brainwashed in this country. Many of the black youth believe that land was stolen from them in South Africa when in truth that is nowhere near the truth. No peoples lived in what we now know as Gauteng when the white man populated it and cities grew when the white man was drawn by gold. The black man was drawn to those same cities for reasons of employment etc. You can't steal something that nobody owns except perhaps God. Maybe those Black youth that are screaming retribution for the supposed theft of something they didn't own should start thanking those that they apparantly hate for pushing back Malaria and the Tsetse Fly - and that is purely one small example of why it is almost damnable to cry theft now of something that was never owned by anybody in the first place.

      msendi - 2011-10-20 15:30

      Who do you think you are fooling??? Whoever told you this story is a liar…

      Myvision - 2011-10-20 23:03

      Nice try DAve but we're not fools

  • Bryan - 2011-10-20 15:24

    @Ndlamini.. You speak of oppression, colonization etc etc..! Answer this question for me. What would Africa be without the white man? You would in all likelyhood still be living in a mud hut. All I hear is how badly you and your people have been treated but tell me what you have ever done over the years to make a change...? Fact is that you cannot because as a people, you do not, and never will have the intellect because instead of getting off of your lazy ass's, you believe you have the right to take something that you had no part in creating. Please show me one thing that the black man has invented which is useful in everyday life.... You cannot, because in general, your people are lazy and backward thinking. Do yourself a favour and read a book entitled.."Capatalist Nigger" by Dr Chika Onyeani.. Maybe you will then understand the common phrase..'Calling a spade a spade'.

  • Ettienne - 2011-10-20 15:33

    'The civil rights body said it would lay the charges at the Wierdabrug police station in Centurion at 15:00 on Thursday." HAHAHAHAHAHA!!! He's goose is coocked. The guy in charge of Wierdabrug is an Indian chap!!! :)

      HelenLouiseW - 2011-10-20 15:40

      EXCELLENT!

      nasheenar - 2011-10-20 16:08

      LOL ...that is quite funny.

  • Paul - 2011-10-20 15:44

    Mr Ndlamini, i have viewed your comments and all your remarks, eish.... A word for you, the judge of peoples; "Judging people does not define who they are, It DEFINES WHO YOU ARE........... !"

  • eradingoana - 2011-10-20 15:49

    The procedure is, he would be charged and found guilty and appeal at the ANC Constitutional Court where Mogoeng Mogoeng will throw the case out of court. What a waste of legal costs would be.

  • Howard - 2011-10-20 15:56

    Who is funding Afriforum.They seem to have too much time on their hands

      Oboa - 2011-10-20 16:46

      Who is funding them? That's probably the most idiotic question I've ever heard!

  • Barry - 2011-10-20 16:05

    Ndlamini - Gandhi's seven deadliest sins had "Wealth without work" at the top of the list. That's exactly what wealth re-distribution is, "wealth without work"!. The process will destroy the collective wealth and eventually this country. Zimbabwe now a nett food importer instead of an exporter.

  • Frikkie - 2011-10-20 16:07

    You take my land, my boy, you will meet my friend, FN-FAL. We will not play with you

  • aiazmir - 2011-10-20 18:29

    Malema is a double puppet. He is fulfilling the designed programme of the ANC to divide and conquer, whilst at the same time seeing how much popularity he can gain, whilst having this position. He is obviously a fraud. I am surprised that AgriForum haven't discovered this game and to turn it against "Mal enema". Malema is beyond conviction if supported by the President and his money supporters. It is important to know the "game". To stop the game stop playing.

  • Jacques - 2011-10-20 19:39

    This is beginning to become more and more like the George Orwell graphic novel, ''1984''. Notice how the ANC has its masses of proletarians just living and eating, living in dumps, contributing squat to society in general. Those with the resources to make a differance just don't care- go look at the amount of intelligent people of all races who has 'Don't care' as their ''political views'' on Facebook. Then, lastly, the decimal percentages of those who actively fight the system are just being shutted down- AfriForum, with all their flaws and controversies, are fighting a noble yet lost battle. For even the months and countless man hours spent on banning the song 'shoot the boer' was wasted- they got the desired court order, yet the people guilty of such blatant hate speech just defies that order and nothing is being done. I'm afraid to say it, people... Big Brother has come to stay. Get Malema out, and the next racist, communist demon is just waiting in line.

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