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Ahmadinejad hails Hamas 'victory'

2012-11-24 14:00

Tehran - Iran's President Mahmud Ahmadinejad has congratulated Gaza's Hamas Prime Minister Ismail Haniya in a telephone call on a "great victory" over Israel, the two sides said on Saturday.

Haniya in turn "thanked Iran for its support", they added, days after Tehran confirmed it had supplied military aid to Gaza.

"The Iranian president congratulated the people of Gaza and the (Palestinian) resistance facing Zionist aggression ... on their great victory," Iran's news agency ISNA reported.

Haniya's office said Ahmadinejad called late on Friday to praise Gaza's "victory after eight days of Israeli aggression", referring to the Jewish state's Operation Pillar of Defence which ended with a Wednesday ceasefire.

"We stand beside the Palestinian people," the Iranian president added.

Parliament speaker Ali Larijani on Wednesday said Iran had supplied military aid to Islamist movement Hamas, which controls Gaza and which fired missiles at Tel Aviv for the first time during the eight-day conflict with Israel.

‘Iran provided technology’

"We are proud to defend the people of Palestine and Hamas ... and that our assistance to them has been both financial and military," Larijani said in remarks reported by parliament's website, ICANA.ir.

Iran's Revolutionary Guards chief General Mohammad Ali Jafari also said on Wednesday that Tehran had provided the "technology" for the Fajr 5 missiles used to target Tel Aviv, but denied supplying the actual weapons.

He said they were being "rapidly produced" in Gaza.

Hamas leader Khaled Meshaal on Wednesday thanked Iran as well as Egypt for their support during the conflict, saying Iran "had a role in arming" his Islamist movement.

The truce ended eight days of cross border attacks in which 166 Palestinians and six Israelis died.

Iran does not recognise arch-enemy Israel and supports hardline Palestinian movements such as Hamas.

Comments
  • jurgen.eksteen - 2012-11-24 14:26

    How the hell can this be a victory for Hamas. They went cowering to Egypt and Israel attended in good faith. This is like a school yard fight with the looser calling time out and claim victory in the end because he called it first.

      jack.blacking.56 - 2012-11-24 15:00

      Have to agree with you there, Hamas got pounded. There will be nothing left if Israel carried on.

      albert.m.burger - 2012-11-24 15:14

      They thought it was a test match, high score wins

      johan.jacobs.5680 - 2012-11-24 15:58

      Comment make's me think of Heyneke Meyer.

      fidel.mgoqi - 2012-11-25 10:50

      Well, Israel has agreed to ease the border restrictions on Gaza. Isn't that victory for the Palestinians.

      jack.blacking.56 - 2012-11-25 16:55

      @fidel.mgoqi. Israel secret service (mossad) probably are so advanced that they know exactly what's following through the border. I mean just look at their sat missile strike on Hamas leader, Deadly accurate, not? Anyways why do so many South African Blacks not support Israel? After all did they not support the ANC during the apartheid era?

      larry.lachman.54 - 2012-11-25 20:46

      Fidel, and Hamas agreed to stop launching rockets into Israel, which is exactly why Israel attacked Hamas. So to my rational mind, Israel got precisely what it wanted and are the only winners. Hamas' rhetoric is unchanged and still at war and what did they get, - very little. If Hamas were to become peaceful and accepting of Israel, they would get a helluva lot more, which would make them truly winners as they would gain a lot more that 'easing of restrictions'. Israel always wins, and it has done so again. Gloriously. Look, no more rockets on Southern Israel. What a joke this Hamas and Iran are.

      fidel.mgoqi - 2012-11-25 23:46

      "Anyways why do so many South African Blacks not support Israel? After all did they not support the ANC during the apartheid era?" The rabid Zionists were bedfellows with the apartheid regime(sies), giving moral and diplomatic support to each other, and providing arms meant to suppress Africans. The historical irony is that when it came to sanctions against South Africa and particularly sanctions against what was still called Southern Rhodesia, Israel was a key route to sanctions busting. The Zionist state saw common cause with apartheid South Africa (fancy that) by turning a blind eye to sanctions busting deals and trades. Africans have not forgotten the bizarre relationship between the South African apartheid regime and Israeli collusion on sanction busting and nuclear proliferation. "AlonLiel, a former Israeli ambassador to Pretoria who headed his foreign ministry's South Africa desk in the 80s, once told the Guardian that gold-rich South Africa funded the joint military projects and Israel provided much of the technical knowledge. "After 1976, there was a love affair between the security establishments of the two countries and their armies," he said. "We were involved in Angola as consultants to the [South African] army. You had Israeli officers there cooperating with the army. The link was very intimate. By the late 1970s, South Africa was Israel's single largest customer for weapons." An indication that Israel was far more deeply involved than people suspect.

      fred.fraser.12 - 2012-11-26 00:03

      Two groups of people resented and opposed the creation of an Israeli homeland for the Jewish people after the horrors of World War II, notwithstanding that the amount of land was a tiny, minuscule slither relative to the vast lands of the one group, and Jewish people had inhabited that land for millennia. Guess which groups that was, and is. Racist Muslims and White Supremacists.

      fred.fraser.12 - 2012-11-26 00:10

      There was heated debate among Israelis and Jews about whether Israel should have relations with the Apartheid regime, as one would expect in open democracies and among people who had been through so much injustice. As usual, Fidel's open prejudice and simple thinking is distorting reality. He's as racist as the Apartheid regime, apparently just not against black people. However, he does believe Nelson Mandela is a phony, a lackey of the West, a modern-day Uncle Tom. Imagine that.

      fidel.mgoqi - 2012-11-26 00:23

      How does your silly diversion detract from my post about sick Zionist support for the suppression of Africans?

      fred.fraser.12 - 2012-11-26 01:34

      Two groups of people resented and opposed the creation of an Israeli homeland for the Jewish people after the horrors of World War II, notwithstanding that the amount of land was a tiny, minuscule slither relative to the vast lands of the one group, and Jewish people had inhabited that land for millennia. Guess which groups that was, and is. Racist Muslims and White Supremacists.

      fred.fraser.12 - 2012-11-26 01:46

      There's racism in all cultures and religions, unfortunately. Your blanket labeling lacks granulation and maturity. Similar to your labeling of Nelson Mandela as a phony, a lackey of the West, a modern-day Uncle Tom.

      larry.lachman.54 - 2012-11-26 13:39

      Fidel, your own diversions have allowed you to avoid answering me. Israel is and always will be the only winner.

      larry.lachman.54 - 2012-11-26 13:45

      Some really angry guy, I mean insane with anger, throws his kid in front of a speeding car in order to try and stop it, and then shouts after the car "Nyaaa!! see what I did to your car, Nyaaaa!!" I would like to congratulate Hamas and all of Islam on a wonderful victory.

  • Gary.desousa7 - 2012-11-24 14:26

    The world according to "Idiots and other commie terrorists" What victory? and continue with your stupid remarks and that will be just whats needed for the comming ground and air invasion of both the vipers nest of gaza and whatever piece of sand the other idiot rules.

      larry.lachman.54 - 2012-11-25 10:32

      Are you a Neo idiot?

  • Plato Pravda - 2012-11-24 14:34

    implement 'operation stained window' and turn the whole of Iran and her cowardly allies into 'glass'.. (nuclear explosion + sand)!!! :-)

      larry.lachman.54 - 2012-11-25 10:33

      You have to be a Neo Idiot surely.

      henry.justice.372 - 2012-11-26 13:23

      Pat - There is nothing wrong with being a zionist,only people who hate the zionists are the muslims and a few africans and we all really give a damn what they think now do we?

      larry.lachman.54 - 2012-11-26 13:42

      Precicely, Pat/Lesego thinks that 'Zionism' is a slur which he spits out at us, when we are quite happy with the tag and understand what it is. Zionism is a noble thing, like the national pride felt by the citizens of most (free and democratic) countries. It is not a swear word that Lesego wishes it to be.

  • Plato Pravda - 2012-11-24 14:44

    any remotely anti-islamic sentiment gets removed immediately. what happened to freedom of speech, News 24??

      cleve.fletcher - 2012-11-24 15:33

      And don't mention Pakistan lol

      larry.lachman.54 - 2012-11-25 20:23

      Seriously? A neo idiots idiot.

      henry.justice.372 - 2012-11-26 13:25

      um Pat ,do you think we all have empty heads? Peace huh,like boko haram,like hizbolla,like hamas,like the taliban? Perhaps you should just keep quite

      larry.lachman.54 - 2012-11-26 13:43

      Telling Pat/Lesego to keep quiet is like trying to get a three year old to read a book while high on sugar.

  • jomdubai - 2012-11-24 14:55

    What strange, archaic little world these Arabs live in...

      cleve.fletcher - 2012-11-24 15:34

      But the problem is that you have Neanderthals with modern weapons.....

      ian.frost.9047 - 2012-11-24 23:07

      @ Cleve Patrick - Why, So that the Arab Nations can invade and maybe stand a chance of winning for a change. Ok, I might agree with you in one situation, that when they do give up their arms they give them to the Syrian rebels to use against Assad, and next to the Rebels in Iran. Much the same as Iran is giving weapons to Hamas. And Cleve Eddie, the only time there will be peace in the ME, is when Isreal is seen for what it is, and Belief is used for good and not to taint Cleve brains like yours.

  • Plato Pravda - 2012-11-24 14:57

    @jomdubai. i fully agree with your comment. well said.

  • moses.mabhida.52 - 2012-11-24 14:58

    Islam lost 160 and Israel lost 6 people... For Islam that is a win?? You know the more one tells a lie the more chance there is that the lie will be believed... I truly think these people think Hamas won lol. Moreover, Israel had one single objective in this whole war with Gaza, that was to STOP the criminal rocket fire from Gaza onto Israel which has been going on for months. The rockets have stopped, thus I believe Israel reached its objective thus Israel won in my eyes. Although I must admit, that Israeli authorities lost this war once one Israeli died... 6 Israelis died thus Israel can not claim victory. Islamics have zero value for like, thus they are claiming victory with 160 dead and complete infrastructure loss.

      larry.lachman.54 - 2012-11-25 20:27

      Some really angry guy, I mean insane with anger, throws his kid in front of a speeding car in order to try and stop it, and then shouts after the car "Nyaaa!! see what I did to your car, Nyaaaa!!" I would like to congratulate Hamas and all of Islam on a wonderful victory.

  • john.thelps - 2012-11-24 15:03

    Takes one idiot to congratulate another....

  • MallyGold - 2012-11-24 15:09

    Let the foolish Islamists believe they won the war against Israeli aggression. They are certainly small minded enough to convince themselves that they weren’t the aggressors. Maybe their self congratulatory cuckoo parties will satisfy them sufficiently to leave Israel alone to live in peace, for that is all they ask for.

  • Tony-Lapson - 2012-11-24 15:21

    So what. Let them have their victory. Maybe then they will stop attacking Israel.

  • cleve.fletcher - 2012-11-24 15:31

    Holy Crap! If their lips are moving they're lying lol

  • bobo.jane.1 - 2012-11-24 15:40

    They fool nobody but themselves... The so called "religion of peace" freedom fighters, but in reality a world terror organisation. They will kill their own and parade with their corpses throught the town square. They are not happy in Gaza, Egypt, Libia, Morocco, Iran, Iraq, Yemen, AFghanistan, Pakistan, Syria, Lebanon... But they are happy in Australia, Canada, England, France, Italy, Germany, Sweden, The USA, Norway, Holland, Denmark... Basically they`re happy in every country that is not Muslim and unhappy in every country that is. AND WHO DO THEY BLAME ? Not Islam. Not their leadership. Not themselves... They blame the countries they are happy in, and then, they want to change those countries to be like the country they came from where they were unhappy. I think they all suffer from a mental disorder.

  • watchman.smith - 2012-11-24 15:53

    Of course he'll hail Hamas as being victorious. Cauze he's a what. Oh that's right abobijaan.

  • cleve.fletcher - 2012-11-24 15:57

    "Iran's Revolutionary Guards chief General Mohammad Ali Jafari also said on Wednesday that Tehran had provided the "technology" for the Fajr 5 missiles used to target Tel Aviv, but denied supplying the actual weapons. He said they were being "rapidly produced" in Gaza." These guys don't understand how toilet paper works and you telling us they producing missile? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

      ian.frost.9047 - 2012-11-24 23:10

      @ Cleve Patrick -And you think Hamas would see you as one of them...

      cleve.fletcher - 2012-11-25 11:00

      @ian.frost.9047: No Ian, what the silly man doesn't realise is that unless his snout is pointing East with his backside in the air five times a day he is on exactly the same hit-list as you, I and everyone else who doesn't blindly fall in line with the agenda of the "Religion of Peace"

  • 0001000ghost - 2012-11-24 16:01

    Victory how so..? They got their Muslim a$$es handed to them.

      fred.fraser.12 - 2012-11-24 20:06

      More calls for reactionary violence from Ziyaad.

  • sonja.brandt1 - 2012-11-24 16:15

    All the comments thus far have had one or another hateful statement about Islam. If u had any real interaction with true Muslims u would not be making such terrible comments. Ur ignorance and hatefulness is disgusting.

      moses.mabhida.52 - 2012-11-24 16:23

      You want to know why....because there is no place on earth where racism and discrimination is as institutionalised as in the Arab world, against Christians, Jews, Hindus, Buddhists, women, gays and other smaller minorities.

      watchman.smith - 2012-11-24 16:32

      @Sonja. Do you really understand Islams ideology. I don't think so, not by your comment. Islam is the most diabolical belief on the earth today and their main goal is the destruction of the nation of Israel and then to globalise the world with Islam, which they do by bluffing people that they are peaceable. Every country that has been converted to Islam has been converted by the sword, that's right turn to Islam or die! That is why they have flooded Europe and the United States, they come in peaceable in the beginning, but once they get the right number of people in they start to shout the odds. They have tried this in Australia, but it has not worked and the Australian Prime Minister Julia Gillard has told them to accept their new way of life in Australia or to go and get knotted and go back to where they came from. There are some that are very nice people in the Muslim religion, but for the most and especially those in the Middle East, they are not to be trusted at all.

      sonja.brandt1 - 2012-11-24 16:57

      Moses: I have done quite a bit of research on many different religions. Ur statement indicates that u have not. Jews are some of the most racist people on earth. Hindus as well (ever heard of the 'untouchables'?). Christians we will not even mention, becos their racism and oppression is considered normal and therefore not associated with Christianity. I assume ur christian, so u must know of quotes like 'woman, submit urself to ur husband' in the Bible. Why do u think the feminist movement exists? Most principals in the Torat, Old testament and Quran are identical. And FYI, there are Muslim feminists, just like there are Christian feminists. Thus, be careful about making such serious statements. U may end up exposing ur own ignorance.

      watchman.smith - 2012-11-24 19:08

      @sonja. there ae a whole lot racist groups in the world. Raw, real Islam does treat there women badly and in certain countries such as Afganistan, Pakistan and Iran they are considered low class. In Afganistan the women, when the Taliban took control; were not alowed to attend any educational institutions, had their rights taken away and are forced to wear burkas over their faces fully covered. If any of them resist they are taken to the town soccer ground and executed. Now is this a lovely religion? The Bible correctly teaches that a women submits to the husband, because that is God's order. He is taught to at the same time love his wife as Christ loves the Church. It does not say that the women cannot make decisions or give avice or suggestions, but at the end of the day in the family the man is answerable to God, the man and wife should agree together in any decision made. There are certain decisions that a women gives her input and brings value and then also the men. Finally though the husband should have the final say, because he will answer to God.

      fred.fraser.12 - 2012-11-24 20:07

      Ziyaad doesn't have much to offer other than reactionary nonsense.

  • Rashida Patel - 2012-11-24 16:29

    Apartheid racist israel demolishes homes ,schools ,hospitals etc in occupied palestine......but the cry for freedom and justice of gazza is finally being heard!!

      cleve.fletcher - 2012-11-24 16:54

      You people are physically incapable of having an intelligent discussion. All you ever do is hurl insults and scream slogans. "but the cry for freedom and justice of gazza is finally being heard!!" Dream on, most of the world has long since seen through this propaganda, Freedom and Justice? Freedom and Justice where people who decide to leave Islam are murdered, where young girls are married at age 6 and raped at age 9? Where female family members are doused in gasoline and set on fire, you know, the "Honour Killing"? I could go on about atrocities that are perpetrated on a daily basis by Muslims literally for hours. I am afraid that the truth is you have never had any chance of free thought or individualism because you have been brainwashed your entire life into the role of a subservient, second class citizen in your own society. You have my deepest sympathy you poor woman.

      sonja.brandt1 - 2012-11-24 17:13

      Cleve Fletcher: u are the one who has been brainwashed and it is both sad and amusing. Do u think atrocities are only committed by Muslims? I seem to recall several incidents of Christian whack jobs taking guns to schools, universities, islands and cinemas (amongst others) and killing a bunch of people. Open ur eyes, u only see what is propagated by the Christian biased media of ur country, Europe and America.

      fred.fraser.12 - 2012-11-24 19:26

      Two groups of people resented and opposed the creation of an Israeli homeland for the Jewish people after the horrors of World War II, notwithstanding that the amount of land was a tiny, minuscule slither relative to the vast lands of the one group, and Jewish people had inhabited that land for millennia. Guess which groups that was, and is. Racist Muslims (like Rashida) and White Supremacists.

  • gobo.lance - 2012-11-24 17:05

    In strategic terms, of course this is a victory for Hamas. They proved they can hit the major population centers with rockets and they kept up their fire for 8 days under withering fire from the most advanced weapons on earth. I never understood why so few few South Africans seem to recall that they are supporting the very "tribe" that pulled the rug from them. Zille, Slovo, Oppenheimer, the rest of the Rivonia gang. The ones who weren't blacks weren't Episocopaplians.

      moses.mabhida.52 - 2012-11-25 00:30

      AWB I suppose, well we (the good black, white, colored and Indian majority) are free in South Africa now and we don't have place for racists like you... Good South Africans of all creeds are fighting daily to make this country a better place and white supremacist like you belongs in the same grave as a black rapist. The good will eventually triumph the evil and like-wise Israel will show the Arab world that they are not as bad as the propaganda and lies spread against them. Israel wants peace and one day they will achieve it. South Africa is far from perfect, we have much to overcome like nepotisim, corruption and crime, but like the 3 diseases I just mentioned we will also beat the forth; racists like you and on the other spectrum malema.

      gobo.lance - 2012-11-25 02:23

      Is that the best you have? "Racist?" Tired. Hackneyed. Doesn't have any meaning. If South Africans had kept their government, 2% of all farmers in the nation wouldn't have been murdered since '94. How many blacks died---directly or indirectly-- from apartheid? I forget the # in the commission. It's not even half the Whites murdered since 1994. LMAO, yes, South Africans are all "working to make the nation better." Please tell me how gang rapes, snatch n' grabs, the political corruption that makes you the laughing stock of the world, etc..., ad nauseam , make a nation "better?" p.s.- I don't buy your username, either, Myron.....

      gobo.lance - 2012-11-25 02:24

      pps- It's also very odd how the post's 14 "likes" magically disappeared over the hours since I posted. Fancy that.

      moses.mabhida.52 - 2012-11-25 07:31

      They say, show me your friends and I will tell you who you are... By looking at your one hundred and something friends I assure you that you are a racist. Thankfully you do not live in SA. It is true, farm murders and other crimes have spiraled out of control, but it beats having a civil war in South Africa and losing a few million citizens if you really cared for human life like you convey. Madiba didn't get a country on a silver platter, he got one that required lots of work and still does. If you gave yourself 14 thumbs up the news24 system usually corrects itself in time and awards you your own single thumbs up in time. White supremisests like yourself have two targets namely, blacks and Jews... Sadly for you we both own our own countries now and people like you are going the same way as the dinosaurs. Life is a journey, those that don't enjoy the ride find it hell... So I'm not going to wish you to go there, rather i will wish for you many years on this awesome place i call earth, for you are already living the fire.

      gobo.lance - 2012-11-26 00:08

      Hey Moses, Curious, is "Genocide Watch" racist too? Did you know that as of late last summer, both the Whites of South Africa and the Palestinians had something in common. Know what it was? Genocide Watch had them both in the final stage before genocide begins-- stage 6, "preparation." So it makes me a "racist" I suppose because I don't feel the Whites in South Africa should be genocided? If so, I'll proudly embrace your label. And the "vote up and down" system on here is a joke depending on a moderator's whim, bc within an hour after posting, it had 16 "likes" and they mysteriously disappeared. You're very typical of your kind. Never debate the facts I've presented, just go ad hominems, "racist," "AWB," "Nazi," whatever else. Didn't debate of the points I made or tell me my facts were incorrect. Because you can't. And you know it. So you stick to your ad hominems. Any time you'd like, I'd be glad to debate you in any forum--public or otherwise-- on the facts I've presented. But you NEVER will engage in a debate based on facts, because you are well aware they are all on my side. No matter. As SA speeds toward Zim status, I just hope any White SA gets to NZ or OZ and leaves you and your ANC cronies to yourselves. AMAZING. The person belonging to the ethnic group "Genocide Watch" has at the stage right before genocide gets called a "racist" by a member of the group about to wage the genocide! Absolutely Orwellian.

  • gobo.lance - 2012-11-24 17:14

    I think part of the problem is that many South Africans draw a false parallel between their experience and what goes on in Israel. The difference? Israel is actually GUILTY of what the world accuses them. Reporters don't snap pictures of an Arab sleeping in a park in Tel-Aviv and print in Brit papers that he was killed by the police. They did that with south africa pre-1994. Check out who was funding the major groups in the USA who demanded the boycotts, sanctions, etc... and destroyed your nation. Look at who was most rabid in calling for your heads. the very same ones who SUPPORT ISRAEL NOW (!!) in the US!

  • ft.burhaak - 2012-11-24 17:14

    As always people ignorantly spill their distorted fallacies about the peaceful religion of Islam.Those who say Islam was spread by the sword,please prove it.God sent Jesus pbuh as a messenger,but look how the unbelievers took advantage of his gentle peaceful nature and slaughted him.So God sent a messenger Muhammad pbuh to deal with those tyrants in their own language!God said that if He didnt instill mercy in Muhammed against the unbelievers,they would have scatthered in all directions.Muhammed pbuh with all his power was very compassionate.Did any1 put a sword at ur necks to accept Islam?

      ft.burhaak - 2012-11-24 17:32

      Islam loves all people of all religions creeds and cultures but Allah commanded the Muslims not to tolerate injustice and oppression agains any human being muslim or not,and that Command will always be fulfilled.That is a muslims duty towards humanity.And im sure that all religions give the same message.

      fred.fraser.12 - 2012-11-27 06:43

      Yet HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF INNOCENT PEOPLE (mainly Muslims) are literally being slaughtered and maimed by the unelected dictators and Jihadists, who are Muslim too, which you are doing NOTHING about. Members of your religion and culture are causing untold mayhem in our world. Are you going to get off your ass and do something about it?

  • fred.fraser.12 - 2012-11-24 19:28

    The Iranian regime adjusts elections to hold onto power. It has stolen the Iranian government from the Iranian people. It funds the Jihadist movement that has killed and maimed hundreds of thousands of innocent people, mainly Muslims in the Middle East, Africa and elsewhere. It is supporting Bashar Assad's brutal oppression of Syrians wanting nothing more than the right to vote. It supports the stoning of women. It openly calls for the elimination of Israel and denies the Holocaust, the single biggest attempt at human genocide in human history: six million people exterminated. It incites and arms the Palestinians to continually attack Israel. It does this to present a false enemy to Iranians to justify its existence, like the Apartheid regime did using "Die Rooi Gevaar" . It is dishonest, highly repressive, and self-serving at the expense of the Iranian people and humanity. It's days are numbered, thankfully.

      gobo.lance - 2012-11-25 02:32

      You haven't a clue about the Middle East. I don't know whether to laugh or to cry. Iran has corruption, of course, but its oil productivity peaked 10 years ago, it's being strangled by insane sanctions, etc... What's happening in Syria is a Shia-Sunni civil war. If you moved the Syrian "rebels" to Yemen or Afghanistan, they'd be called "mujahaden" or "taliban." The day Assad falls and a hardline Sunni government comes to power, the Shia and Xtians who don't escape will be massacred. It's not even, there isn't a place to start with someone like you. How do I purport to know such things? It's irrelevant. I wish I could remember your username and you could talk to you again in 4 years about Syria.

      cleve.fletcher - 2012-11-25 11:09

      @gobo.lance: er.. I think that perhaps you should go back and re-read what you just wrote. "a hardline Sunni government comes to power, the Shia and Xtians who don't escape will be massacred" Sound just like Hamas... And there you go, you admit everything that Moses, Fred, Tony, Mally John, Myself and all the others are saying, that these stone-age barbarians should in no way ever be in power because they are simply not fit to rule.

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