Attacks deepen Iran nuclear puzzle

2012-02-17 12:33

Washington - Attacks on Israeli diplomats, new nuclear grandstanding and a glimmer of fresh hope for diplomacy are taking Iran's feud with its Western foes to an unpredictable and possibly more dangerous phase.

A chaotic flurry of events has experts asking whether a tightening sanctions choke hold is beginning to spark volatile behaviour by Iran and a desire to show that any Israeli strikes on its nuclear sites will draw a bloody riposte.

Israel has this week accused Tehran of deploying assassination squads which botched attacks on its diplomats in Thailand, Georgia and India. Iran, seeking to spook the markets, threatened to cut oil exports to six EU nations.

But deepening the intrigue, Iran has also signalled it was ready to return to nuclear talks with world powers, even as it warned it had produced its first 20% enriched uranium and installed another 3 000 nuclear centrifuges.

One explanation circulating in Washington over Iran's apparently contradictory behaviour is that it is seeking political cover, and to project strength, ahead of a return to the negotiating table.

Privately, US officials are sceptical of Iran's claims to new nuclear advances, describing them as "posturing" and essentially meaningless, but suggest they may be another reaction to outside pressure by rulers in Tehran.

Attacks on Israeli diplomats meanwhile could be interpreted as Iran lashing out as payback for covert action widely believed to be the work of Israeli agents which has taken down Iranian nuclear scientists, a US source said.

More ominously, Iran may be also be putting down a marker that it is ready and able, possibly aided by Hezbollah, to strike outside its borders in reprisal for any US or Israeli strike on its nuclear facilities.


Security experts point out that the incidents came close to the fourth anniversary of the killing credited to Israeli agents of Hezbollah commander Imad Mughnieh, in Damascus, and may have been intended to show the Iranian-backed group remains dangerous.

Yet such is Iran's isolation and so byzantine are the dynamics between such figures like President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and supreme leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei that Tehran's true motives are tough to divine.

US President Barack Obama remarked earlier this month that "knowing who is making decisions at any given time inside of Iran is tough".

One puzzling characteristic about the attacks on Israelis is that they seem somewhat amateurish and hardly worthy of a regime branded by its enemies as one of the world's most prolific sponsors of state terrorism.

In Thailand, an Iranian bomber blew off his own legs. In New Delhi, an Israeli diplomat and her driver were injured but not killed when a motorcycle hitman fixed a magnetic bomb on their car. A similar attack in Tbilisi was thwarted.

Such inefficiency may suggest the attacks were hurried efforts by renegade elements of the Iranian government, or that they are intended as a warning, and not a large-scale affair that could trigger a harsh Israeli response.

"Depending on where you sit, Iran projects different things to different people," said Karim Sadjadpour, of the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace.

"To some, it is an irrational actor whose alleged terror aspirations inspire grave concern, to others it is a rational actor whose bungled terror plots project great incompetence.

Negotiating table

"All it takes is one successful hit, however, for that debate to be resolved."

Some US officials believe that Iran's latest belligerence frames its decision to return to the nuclear negotiating table as sanctions bite deep into its economy.

Obama told Iran in his State of the Union address last month that despite rising expectations of a military clash, the door remained open to resolving the showdown through diplomacy.

Iran replied on Wednesday, when top negotiator Saeed Jalili told EU foreign policy chief Catherine Ashton in a letter that he was ready for talks.

US officials still do not know whether increasing pressure on Iran means it will be willing to talk about core nuclear issues it has refused to address in the past.

James Phillips, a Middle East analyst at the Heritage Foundation, however said it was likely that Iran saw talks as a chance to stall and to drive wedges in the global coalition opposing its nuclear program.

"When it appears that the international community is gearing up to ratchet up sanctions on Iran, Iran suddenly comes forward and offers new sets of negotiations," he said.

"When diplomats sit down to talk, they discover that Iran wants to talk about anything except the specific nuclear issues that are to be addressed."

  • Jaba - 2012-02-17 12:51

    Batten down the hatches kids, the games are about to begin. The Iranian regime and it's so-called peaceful nuclear program are getting ready to go the way of the wayward wind. The Iranian regime would have everyone in Iran eating sand to get nukes.

      Ax - 2012-02-17 18:04

      poor jaba, here is a quiz to help you out: Just so you can keep up with the perpetual and endless crisis in the Middle East here is a little quiz for you. Question: Which country in the Middle East has nuclear weapons? Answer: Israel. Q: Which country in the Middle East refuses to sign the nuclear non-proliferation treaty and bars international inspections? A: Israel. Q: Which country in the Middle East seized the sovereign territory of other nations by military force and continues to occupy it in defiance of United Nations Security Council resolutions? A: Israel. Q: Which country in the Middle East routinely violates the international borders of another sovereign state with warplanes and artillery and naval gunfire? A: Israel. Q: What American ally in the Middle East has for years sent assassins into other countries to kill its elected politicans (a practice sometimes called exporting terrorism)? A: Israel. Q: In which country in the Middle East have high-ranking military officers admitted publicly that unarmed prisoners of war were executed? A: Israel.

      Ax - 2012-02-17 18:04

      Part 2: Q: What country in the Middle East refuses to prosecute its soldiers who have acknowledged executing prisoners of war? A: Israel. Q: What country in the Middle East created 2,762,000 refugees and refuses to allow them to return to their homes, farms and businesses? A: Israel. Q: What country in the Middle East refuses to pay compensation to people whose land, bank accounts and businesses it confiscated? A: Israel. Q: In what country in the Middle East was a high-ranking United Nations diplomat assassinated? A: Israel. Q: In what country in the Middle East did the man who ordered the assassination of a high-ranking U.N. diplomat become prime minister? A: Israel. Q: What country in the Middle East blew up an American diplomatic facility in Egypt and attacked a U.S. ship in international waters, killing 33 and wounding 177 American sailors? A: Israel. Q: What country in the Middle East employed a spy, Jonathan Pollard, to steal classified documents and then gave some of them to the Soviet Union? A: Israel. Q: What country first denied any official connection to spy J. Pollard, then voted to make him a legal citizen and has continuously demanded that American presidents grant Pollard a full pardon and release? A: Israel.

      Ax - 2012-02-17 18:04

      part 3: Q: What country on Planet Earth has the second most powerful lobby in the United States, according to a recent Fortune magazine survey of Washington insiders? A: Israel. Q: Which country in the Middle East is in defiance of 69 United Nations Security Council resolutions and has been protected from 29 more by U.S. vetoes? A: Israel. Q: What country did the United States bomb and invade because ``U.N. Security Council resolutions MUST be obeyed?'' A: IRAQ. Every time anyone says that Israel is our only friend in the Middle East, I can't help but think that before Israel, we had no enemies in the Middle East." -- John Sheehan, S.J. (a Jesuit priest)--

      Fidel - 2012-02-17 19:38

      @Ax A Rogue state Indeed!

      Fred - 2012-02-17 21:15

      Question: Why does Israel do that? Answer: Because the tyrannical Arab regimes, have wanted to destroy them, and the Jewish people were the victims of the greatest attempt of genocide in the history of humankind. Six million were killed in the matter of a few years. Question: What's happening in the Middle East now? Answer: The tyrants are being overthrown by their populations, who have plugged into the real world and see through the lies they've been fed, which was designed to keep the tyrants in power, and don't want to be left behind any longer.

      Fred - 2012-02-17 21:24

      Question: Why does Israel do that? Answer: Because tyrannical Arab regimes have wanted to destroy them, and the Jewish people were the victims of the greatest attempt at genocide in the history of humankind. Six million were killed in the matter of a few years. Question: What's happening in the Middle East now? Answer: These tyrants are being overthrown by their own populations, who have plugged into the real world and see through the lies they've been fed, designed to keep the tyrants in power, and who don't want to be left behind any longer.

      Fidel - 2012-02-17 21:34

      Tyranical Arab regimes? Lets see who those regimes are: Tunisia Morroco Egypt Jordan Kuwait Saudi Arabia UAE Qatar Bahrain Yemen All friends supported and armed by the good ol US of A. Anyone who thinks that the US/NATO objects to tyrants has not been paying attention, it loves them. It cannot get enough of them. It manufactures them wherever it goes. It is setting up a tyranny in Afghanistan and it is angry that Iraq is not tyrannical enough to over ride the people's hatred of the occupying army and request the US army to stay there. There is barely a tyranny left on earth which was not founded or is not sponsored by the United States or its NATO allies. Gulf monarchies are a U.S. satrapy. Their decades-old promise to use only the petrodollar translates into them being an appendage of Pentagon power projection across the Middle East. I'm not even going to mention the STAN countries, e.g, Khazakstans, etc. Nice try once again!

      Jaba - 2012-02-17 21:45

      Well done! you can copy past from (Author: Islamic Party of Britain), just another racist site full of lies and deception - and because you didn't take the time to actually research for yourself - ill just let everyone reading know that those points are lies and a misrepresentation of the truth. You see the world is a fickle place Anti-Semitism hasn't gone away; it's merely morphed into hatred of Israel. The Jews will never be "loved". The world will love the Jews greatly were they to roll over and die, and that is not going to happen. I'm with Machiavelli -- it is far, far better to be feared than to be loved. that fear being Israeli self-defence. There are 50 Arab/Muslim nations. There is only one Jewish nation - and it is the size of the Kruger National Park. but that is still too big for the racist Arabs.

      Jaba - 2012-02-17 21:47

      Arabs were not expelled from their homes. Israel went to enormous lengths to reassure them, and to get them to stay. In fact, the ones who did stay are citizens of Israel, enjoying all of the rights and privileges of citizenship, although not all of the obligations (such as military service). The ones who left were voluntary quits, who heeded the call of their leadership to get out of the way of the "conquering Arab armies" (I trust you are aware that one day after Israel's declaration of modern statehood, it was attacked by five Arab armies). No one expected Israel to win, but win they did. Won five more subsequent wars, too, all of them started by the Arabs. If you are serious about the question of expulsion, I suggest you look no further than the one million Jews expelled from their homes in Muslim and Arab lands in 1948, with little more than the clothes on their backs. It happened again, on a lesser scale, following Israel's stunning victory in the Six Day War. There is no place in the world, that discrimination and racism is as institutionalized as in the Arab world, against Christians, Jews, Hindu's, Buddhists, Women Gays and other smaller minorities.

      Jaba - 2012-02-17 21:47

      If the Jews had not fought back against the Arab armies and had been destroyed in 1948, they would have received the most beautiful eulogies throughout the world. Instead, they chose to stand their ground and defend themselves. And in winning, they received the world's condemnation. Golda Meir said she would take the condemnation over the eulogies. Fact is the indigenous people of the land were Jews around 2000 years before Islam was created.

      Jaba - 2012-02-17 21:48

      There is hardly a conflict in the world that doesn't have Muslims involved. Afghanistan, Bosnia, Cote d’Ivoire, Cyprus, East Timor, Indonesia, Gaza, Kashmir, Kosovo, Kurdistan, Macedonia, Nigeria, Pakistan, Philippines, Chechnya, Serbia, Thailand, Bangladesh, Tajikistan, Egypt, Syria, Sudan, Ethiopia, Tunisia, Algeria, Yemen, etc. All of these recent or ongoing conflicts have involved the "Religion of Peace", Islam The religion of peace is the only reason why your quiz falls on only one answer - Israel must stay strong and protect itself because the Arab world doesn't only want to destroy Israel - they also try and make Israel look like the aggressor. When Islam learns to compromise and accept other religions and faith than you quiz will fall away. Q: Is Islam the religion of peace or submission? Clue: Just look at the violence A: Submission

      Fidel - 2012-02-17 22:09

      @Jaba "Fact is the indigenous people of the land were Jews around 2000 years before Islam was created." What an admission, but you are probaly too daft to realise what you are conceding. So by converting to islam these ancient people lost all rights to their heritage?

      Boaz - 2012-02-17 22:18

      Good job jaba - i usually just ignore their lies. i saw that 'quize' about a decade ago, its laughable as so many of the points are actually what the Arab world is aspiring to achieve. I don't usually leave comments here. but i need to commend you on taking the time to fight these false accusations. Peace will come when the Arab world lays its arms down - but i very much doubt that will ever happen. Just look how they murder each other all over the Middle East, its absurd to believe they will ever recognise the Jews in the neighborhood.

      Fred - 2012-02-17 22:25

      "It (the US) manufactures them wherever it goes." Typical victim ideology. The terrorist regimes are not making choices. They sprung up when the freer world victimized them. There were no dictatorships in the Middle East until the freer world victimized them. The truth is the Middle East has been plagued with tyrants and dictators forever, and is only now freeing itself of same. The freer world made Faustian bargains by forming alliances with those that appeared more benign. Not an ideal situation, by any means. Thankfully that choice will no longer be necessary. The people of the Middle East are waking up, demanding change, stepping into the 21st Century, without their victimizing leaders pretending to be victims.

      Fred - 2012-02-17 22:26

      Fidel, the Israelites have been in the area as long as the other tribes. Deal with it.

      Fidel - 2012-02-17 23:18

      Worng again, the rabble of people there are a collection of European rejects who brought their racial bigotry from Europe and displaced the indeginous people of that area, as was conceded by your friend Jaba above.

      Fred - 2012-02-17 23:20

      It's obvious to every clear thinking person that the bigot is you.

      Fidel - 2012-02-17 23:44

      The Jews (Sherpadic) who lived in Palestine pre 1948 had no experience of racial discrimination, it was the European (Ashkenazi) bigots who brought racial superiority to that land. The latter are terrorists, the former lived at peace with their neighbors.

      Fred - 2012-02-18 00:07

      It's Sephadic Jews. And your understanding of this is wrong again. The truth is the idea of superiority over other tribes has been an unfortunate part of all of human history, Jew and non-Jew, European and non-Euroean, Sunni Arab and Shiite Muslim alike. Your pseudo-victimhood slants reality making you see only a part of reality that satisfies your victimhood.

  • Kobus - 2012-02-17 13:10

    Now if ever there was a crackpot government its the Iranians. Totally mad this lot :(

      ludlowdj - 2012-02-17 14:34

      Yes Kobus just like the Israeli's hey?

      Jerzy - 2012-02-17 17:20

      You mean those those loons that ruled SA before the ANC. I honestly believe they were worse.

      Ax - 2012-02-17 18:02

      Hmmm? what did they do exactly??? did they kill any scientists? did they invade any land recently? did they bomb any strip in the past few years??? hmmm

      Fred - 2012-02-17 21:17

      They fund almost every terrorist organization in the world. Duh!

      Fidel - 2012-02-17 21:36

      Ah, that would be Saudi Arabia, the biggest tyranny in the Middle East.

      Fred - 2012-02-17 22:27

      Saudi Arabia is another Middle Eastern, chauvinistic state that funds terrorism and that you, Fidel, at least indirectly, support.

      Fidel - 2012-02-17 23:16

      And how am I supporting that monstrosity?

      Fred - 2012-02-17 23:21

      By enabling dictatorships, wherever they are

      Fred - 2012-02-18 00:12

      Saudi Arabia's time is coming, but their leadership at least is responding by changing, albeit too slowly.

  • Fidel - 2012-02-17 13:23

    "We hope Iraq will be the first domino and that Libya and Iran will follow. We don't like being kept out of markets because it gives our competitors an unfair advantage," John Gibson, chief executive of Halliburton's Energy Service Group, International Oil Daily A few years ago, General Wesley Clark told Amy Goodman on Democracy Now that soon after 9/11 a general in the Pentagon informed him that several countries would be attacked by the U.S. military. The list included Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, and Iran. Warmongers, the lot of them.

      Gerhard - 2012-02-17 17:26

      Yes, that is an absolute necessity. If we do not go there, they come to us. The last 2000 years of history clearly shows that.

      Fidel - 2012-02-17 21:53

      And what then? The colonial powers will start yet again, out of tediousness or too much supply of testosterone to devour one another.

      Fred - 2012-02-17 22:28

      You're a big victim, Fidel, a pseudo-vitcim.

      Fidel - 2012-02-17 23:08

      Another knee-jerk response. I've qouted a statement by a CEO of a major US corporation with links to an ex US vice president which shows why the US/Nato powers are engaged in global warfare, ACCESS TO MARKETS. The sensible question is why is it that the USA continues to spend hundreds of billions of dollars every year on defence 20 years after it is the sole superpower. If the USA is the beacon of democracy and the moral argument has been won, why does it still need to spend so much money defending itself against those who have quite clearly lost the argument? NATO's hidden agenda is to blunt the upcoming alternative economies. They did it in Serbia, Iraq,Libya, may be salivating to do it in Syria and Iran, and down the track may be dreaming to do in China, India, Russia too. The guns of Dewey in Manila Bay were heard across Asia and Africa , they echoed through the palace at Peking and brought to the Oriental mind a new and potent force among western nations. We, in common with the countries of Europe, are striving to enter the limitless markets of the east.... These people respect nothing but power. I believe the Philippines will be enormous markets and sources of wealth.” Chauncey DePew, now a US Senator. It's there in black and white! "I am not blaming those who are resolved to rule, only those who show an even greater readiness to submit". – Thucydides

      Fred - 2012-02-17 23:22

      WHat about Russia and China, your hero's?

      Fidel - 2012-02-17 23:39

      What about them, China is engaged in trade with the developing world in exchange for access to resources. The relationship is beneficial and respectfull. They have parked the sanctimonious and patronising codswallop mouthed by the West. The motivation is self interest but the realtionship is more cooperative. The Chinese also want access to markets but they are willing to pay for whatever they need. The western powers aren't prepared to do this because they feel entitled to these resources, as their history shows, which is why they are willing to bomb whole villages (Fallujah) in order to dispose those leaders who aren't in line. Nato powers are like the the Vikings of old, raging around the world, raping and pillaging at will, all the time engaging in duplicitous double-talk about bringing peace, democracy and human rights.

      Fred - 2012-02-17 23:55

      You're so blind it's not even funny. Russia and China have outperformed every other country on Earth in terms of genocides and killing of civilians. They have the worst human rights records of any country, tens of millions of their own people slaughtered by their regimes. And they have only recently joined the international community. Yet, in your blindness and pseudo-victimhood, you sing their praises. While they oppose help to Syrian civilians who are being butchered daily, and while they protect their material interests there. If the US/Nato countries opposed help to the Syrian people, every clear thinking person on this blog knows you would be shouting out the other side of your mouth, blaming the so-called West, etc, etc. Bashar Assad is going, so is Ahmadinejad and his cronies, and so are the current Russian and Chinese regimes, removed by their own people in this Information Age. What amazing times we live in. If only it was less violent.

      Fidel - 2012-02-18 00:08

      China and Russia aren't bombing anyone around the world TODAY. Look at their defence budgets. China has 1/5 of the world's population and I don't think they are looking to control more. The Chinese aren't going around the world spreading communism or Confucianism. They respect other countries'sovereignties. This is totally lost on you.

      Fred - 2012-02-18 00:18

      Google Tibet and Georgia. AND open your eyes to their veto of help to the Syrian people trying to free themselves from decades of cruel tyranny, which you'd be screaming blue-murder about if the so-called West did this. AND have in mind they've been isolated for decades, retarding themselves with Communism. This isolation has taken them off the radar of pseudo-victims like you, who would otherwise project their victimhood onto. Successful countries are fertile ground for envious and weak projections.

      Fidel - 2012-02-18 00:32

      China-Tibet,there's a phrase for it, it's not "annexation", it's "reclamation". So what the Chinese did in the 1950s is to merely "reclaim" Tibet, not to "annex" it. It's late, am going to bed, good nite!

      Fred - 2012-02-18 00:39

      Good night Fidel. Love you. :)

  • Waleed - 2012-02-17 14:41

    wow.. 2 countries who posses weapons of mass destruction dictate to another country that they shouldnt use the technology for peaceful means.. lol.. hippocrits

      Fidel - 2012-02-17 15:29

      I trust the Israelis even less. Only a fool would trust such a proven rogue state.

      Larry - 2012-02-17 15:44

      Fidel the fool

      Larry - 2012-02-17 15:47

      If Israel were such a rogue state, then it would have wiped out the Palestinians just for starters, and then dealt with its other sworn enemies decades ago. Fidel I proclaim you more than a mere fool. You are a raving lunatic.

      phathuchicos - 2012-02-17 15:55

      Larry you are an ignorant bastard that never focus on the truth...Oh are you waiting for the messiah to arrive and tell you to change your rotten mindset, can't you see that innocent citzens are living in misery for the sake of the Israelis luxury life.

      Larry - 2012-02-17 16:15

      Innocent civilians? Do you mean thos innocent civilans being murdered by the Syrian government as we speak. Israeli Arab citizens have it very good, and Palestinians in the disputed territories could have it great if they negotiated peace with Israel.

      Fred - 2012-02-17 21:26

      Azanian, your awareness is dim. Look deeper and wider and you'll see more. Drop the anger and victimhood. They're blinding you.

  • phathuchicos - 2012-02-17 15:25

    the award for "holliest peace promoting and highest IQ country in the middle-east" goes to Israel for being in war with a defenceless terrorist plagued Palestine full of innocent citzens and threatening to bomb a sovereign country because it now want to posses an artifact of dominance.

      Larry - 2012-02-17 16:17

      Thanks, I accept the award on behalf of peace-loving Israelis.

      Nibiru - 2012-02-17 16:34

      @ fidel the-azanian how's graziella

      Gerhard - 2012-02-17 17:31

      What exactly do you mean by Azanian. As far as I know that is a long forgotten territory in EasT Africa.

      Fidel - 2012-02-17 20:54

      Don't feed the troll......

      Fred - 2012-02-17 21:30

      The defenseless Palestinians are being used and funded by the likes of the Iranian and Syrian regimes to distract their own populations away from their disenfranchisement. It's been a a massive and heartless manipulation. Thankfully this is changing, with the deposing of ALL the tyrannical regimes in the Middle East.

  • Jerzy - 2012-02-17 17:19

    Firstly we are not kids, and secondly, how can you assume that their nuclear program is not for peaceful purposes. You expect us to believe you, based on what?? where did you get your information? from the same guy who sold jack his beanstalks and the so called WMD's to bush and his dummies.

      Fred - 2012-02-19 19:35

      Right now it is known that Iran has not moved from declarations of intent to create nuclear weapons, to actually creating them. It is also known that if they move to creating them, it would take one to two years for them to succeed. Do you want a fundamentalist, terrorist, chauvinistic regime to have nuclear weapons? I very much hope not.

  • Jerzy - 2012-02-17 17:25

    Larry, by stealing their land and expanding illegitimate settlements, they are wiping them out even if it is not militarily. I can honestly see why so many here on news24 are die hard supporters of all israeli policies towards Palestinians. Apartheid is real, apartheid israel

      Larry - 2012-02-17 19:39

      Anti-semitism is real and on-going, Jerzy. Even if not by intent, it is so pervasive as to seem normal. Furthermore, you and a vast majority of humankind Jew-haters have a narrow understanding of the truth of the Middle East conflict as pertains to Israel. Israel was attacked with the intent of EXTERMINATION on several occasions. Israel defended herself from murderous hostile neighboring countries. Jordan, which had OCCUPIED the West Bank without complaint from so-called Palestinians between 1948 - 1967, attacked Israel and were chased back to the other side of the Jordan river, leaving the area stateless. Israel occupied this hostile void to preserve its hard won security. Same applied with Lebanon, Syria (Golan heights) and Egypt which were given back the conquered Sinai peninsular in exchange for a peace agreement which remains to this day. The Palestinians MUST ensure Israel's security, and let us not forget that Hamas is Palestinian. So there will be no peace until the Palestinians wish it for themselves. Land was not stolen. The Arabs must accept the virdict of arms since they are the ones who took up arms against a peaceful nation.

      Fidel - 2012-02-17 20:29

      Claims of anti-Semitism are a quick and easy way to try to sway the political debate by anyone who construes any sort of political criticism of Israel as criticism of Jews. There's nothing peaceful about Israel, that country was founded through terror by terrorist for terrorists, remember menechen begin who bombed the King David hotel killing British service man. Nice try Larry.

      Fred - 2012-02-17 21:21

      Upside down again. It is the tyrannical Arab regimes, who thankfully have been found out by their populations and are being deposed, who have always been the aggressors towards Israel. Israel's actions have been defensive. With the tyrants gone, there'll be more opportunities for peace, because the funders of organizations like Hizbolah are disappearing fast. The Palestinians have been used by these tyrants to distract the attention of their own populations away from their own disenfranchisement.

      Fidel - 2012-02-17 22:00

      Wrong again, Israel cannot afford peace. How will US government justify the $6 billion aid to their tax payers if that country were to conclude peace with her neighbours. Israel is intentionally made to be a military outpost to project western hegemony in the region.

      Fred - 2012-02-17 22:29

      Against the "poor" Arab dictatorships that you project victims onto, pseudo-victim.

      Fidel - 2012-02-17 23:14

      I have no clue what is this supposed to mean, are you responding to me.

      Fred - 2012-02-17 23:24

      "There's nothing peaceful about Israel, that country was founded through terror by terrorist for terrorists, remember menechen begin who bombed the King David hotel killing British service man." Israel is victimizing the Arab dictators, who you project victim onto, your own pseudo-victim.

      Fidel - 2012-02-17 23:29

      No Fred, Israel is victimising the Palestinians and showing aggression towards Iran. I couldn't care less about the US client states.

      Fred - 2012-02-17 23:46

      As a classic victim, projecting pseudo-victim onto the world, that's true.

  • Craig - 2012-02-18 09:20

    Privately, US officials are sceptical of Iran's claims to new nuclear advances, describing them as "posturing" and essentially meaningless... So what are the "west" going on about in the first place????

      Fred - 2012-02-19 19:39

      The so-called West, which includes the Arab League comprising 350 million Muslims, are concerned that a fundamentalist, terrorist, chauvinistic regime has in fact declared its intent to develop nuclear weapons. Humanity has learned from the second world war not to overlook these declarations.

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