Barak OKs call-up of 30 000 reservists

2012-11-15 21:11

Jerusalem - Israeli Defence Minister Ehud Barak on Thursday approved the call-up of 30 000 reserve soldiers who can be called into action by the military at any point, the army's official spokesperson said.

"We are in the process of expanding the campaign," Brigadier General Yoav Mordechai told Channel 2 television as Israel pressed a massive air campaign against Gaza militants.

"The defence minister approved a few minutes ago, based on the army's request, the recruitment of another 30 000 soldiers. We will determine how many of them will be called in," he said.

"All options are on the table."

Israel earlier began moving troops toward the Gaza Strip for a possible ground invasion of the Palestinian territory.

At least a dozen trucks carrying tanks and armoured vehicles were seen late on Thursday moving toward the border area, while buses ferried soldiers.

  • kobus.hattingh.5 - 2012-11-15 21:17

    God bless Israel!

      JohncarlosBiza - 2012-11-15 21:25

      God save humanity from themselves. We are a very destructive specie

      PrettyUsefulArt - 2012-11-15 21:29

      Don't hold your breath, Kobus. Haven't seen any proof of God doing anything in any of the wars outside of the bible.

      kobus.hattingh.5 - 2012-11-15 21:53

      Then you ought to read 1 Corinthians 2 BrainCandy :) maybe then it will make sense why you have not seen it.

      PrettyUsefulArt - 2012-11-15 21:56

      Kobus, I can assure you that I have read the bible from cover to cover. Studied it, actually. Hence my no longer being a Christian.

      PrettyUsefulArt - 2012-11-15 22:27

      You guys can thumbs-down me as much as you like - not as though it matters to me. Don't be a coward, tell me why you disagree. Tell me when God intervened - in our lifetime, not 2000 years ago. Tell me how He did it. Tell me what proof there is. Tell me about the innocent little children he saved from losing limbs. Or the ones whose limbs were returned to them, by prayer. Go on, tell me... I'm all ears. I think that if there was a God, He'd be horrified at the wars playing out in His name.

      joy.moloi.3 - 2012-11-15 22:48

      kobus g-d motivates his followers to kill children. this g-d guy is very violent or too lazy to stop his supporters from killing innocent children, he even allows them to steal land and act all innocent. i though this g-d is fear an loving and just.

      JohncarlosBiza - 2012-11-15 23:09

      If there is a God, He's nothing like how the orthodox Christians, Muslims and Jews depict him

      kobus.hattingh.5 - 2012-11-16 04:45

      BrainCandy, even if you have 10 degrees in Theology and can recite the Bible in Hebrew, Greek etc you still won't get it as it will remain a closed book. Only once you are spiritually reborn will it open up and will you understand. Jesus thanked God for concealing the Words of the Bible to the intelligent, the wise and those whom does not belief. Its contains spiritual truth and is not just a history book.

      watchman.smith - 2012-11-16 06:47

      @BrainCandy. The reason you read the Bible without any revelation, is because you aint filled and were never filled with the Holy Spirit.

      PrettyUsefulArt - 2012-11-16 07:10

      @ Kobus & Watchman. I was born born-again and embraced it until the age of 36. I was baptised by Ray McCrawley, was a deacon in one of the largest born again churches in the Western Cape. So yes, like you, I was well and truly brainwashed. Until I started to THINK, that is.

      kobus.hattingh.5 - 2012-11-16 07:19

      Well BrainCandy then you also know the verse where it says that most Christians will depart from the faith. And only those that remains to the end will be saved (2 Pet 3).

      kobus.hattingh.5 - 2012-11-16 07:28

      Mat 11:25 At that time Jesus answered and said, I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them to babes. Mat 11:26 Even so, Father, for so it seemed good in thy sight. Mat 11:27 All things are delivered to me by my Father; and no man knoweth the Son, but the Father; neither knoweth any man the Father, save the Son, and he to whomsoever the Son will reveal him.

      eddy.deepfield - 2012-11-16 08:03

      Kobus - like he did when Hitler in the the Holocaust which was the systematic, bureaucratic, state-sponsored persecution and murder of approximately six million Jews by the Nazi regime. Where was your God then. Grow up there is no God.

      eddy.deepfield - 2012-11-16 08:05

      Kobus - I see you use the standard default comeback when confronted with an ex born again relationship with Jesus Christian. You were never born again. Do you think someone would submit to Jesus and become a deacon if he never really wanted to. More and more Christians are de-converting today, prompted by different life events. Religion is a remnant of our tribal past, an ability for us to group together to be strong, against a group who is not "us". There is really no "us vs. them". There is no Christian vs. Atheist vs Muslim vs. Jew vs. Hindu vs. Buddhist.

      andre.c.79 - 2012-11-16 08:43

      Dude, quoting random verses from the Bible isn't going to lead anyone to Christ.

      nathania.goosen - 2012-11-16 08:50

      Hi Kobus. I Do not care about Israel or the Hammas i care only for the children because of these people's pride and greed the children have to suffer. I know everything about propaganda i am not those people that follow the world and believe what they say like sheep. i hate any form of war. I Love my God with all my heart since i was a child and i have form a bond with God over these years so i know that this war is not from God but human selfishness, greed and pride.

      gianni.blayse - 2012-11-16 11:01

      kobus you psychotic christian zionist. catch a wake up. israelis are laughing at your stupid non-jew gat blindly supporting them. they love suckers like you. sucker

      fidel.mgoqi - 2012-11-16 11:34

      “My opinion of Christian Zionists? They’re scum. But don’t tell them that. We need all the useful idiots we can get right now.” -Benyamin Netanyahu

      michael.taylorw - 2012-11-16 12:39

      @BrainCandyCPT you claim to have read the entire bible??? You obviously have not the faintest idea of what you have read then...

      imam.madi.129 - 2012-11-16 12:49

      God won't bless anyone in this war kobus, He learnt His mistake by giving Jews Palestinian land when they left Egypy without telling them that Palestinians will fight back. However I also believe that only God will find a solution for that war as He started it. No bombs, suicide bombers, war mongers of any faith including yours will bring peace to the holy land. Now go ahead and call me names for my views, don't forget to call me antisemite, antichrist or any of the sexy names given to people who disagree with zionism (not Jewishness) or fanatical fundamentalist christianity (not Christians).

      KevvyW - 2012-11-16 13:47

      @ Braincandy - You tell us that you read the bible from cover to cover. And I believe you, and you have studied it, I believe you. Just the same as moving tanks and troups to the border of Israel will change anything. It is in going from reading, studying and then acting on that that makes all the difference. History/ the proof of the past, is a measure to know that Israel can and will overcome. I pray for sanity in the world, but then the bible says, things will just get worse...And please tell me it is not the truth. You read the bible, but surely did not understand it.

      KevvyW - 2012-11-16 13:56

      @ BraincandyCPT - You have been a born again christian, but lost your way, You did not gain any knowledge higher than what you knew as a christian. You are deceived the devil, and I feel for you, for the bible tells you that when you back slide you go back and eat your own vomit. That is where you are, said with the utmost respect and love. You re dying in your own vomit, and untill you you get out of the pigs den and stand up, you will surely die. I will be praying fo you. Thank you for the opportunity, letting me into your life's experiences. "For me to live is Christ and to die is gain" The prodical son "Came to his senses". I pray, so will you. Peace n Love.

      arthur.hugh - 2012-11-16 17:59

      Kobus, you're one serious redneck moron. You can take your self righteous holy spirit and shove it up your unholier than though section where the sun don't shine. Arrogant chop.

  • PrettyUsefulArt - 2012-11-15 21:19

    Oh dear... Will it never end? And all because of greed, religion or both.

      JohncarlosBiza - 2012-11-15 21:23

      If not for those things, each death would be mourned the same and future deaths prevented. Life is tough enough as it is....why make it worse by creating enemies

      theodor.herzl.3 - 2012-11-15 21:30

      No, it's only the beginning of the end. The God of Israel started with Israel, and will end with Israel, His people, the apple of His eye.

      JohncarlosBiza - 2012-11-15 21:34

      Then they wonder why some mock religion...

      melanie.pienaar.92 - 2012-11-16 05:18

      theodor.herzl.3 get over yourself and stop thinking you are superior.

      watchman.smith - 2012-11-16 06:43

      @BrainCandy. What an aptly appropriate name you gave yourself. God of Israel has defended Israel in many miraculous events since 1948. Shortly after she became a nation again in her land with a few men in her army Israel held of the attacks of the Arab armies on all her borders and has since defeated the same again in 1967 and 1973. A worthwhile DVD for you to watch is called "Against All Odds, Israel Survives."

      PrettyUsefulArt - 2012-11-16 07:12

      @ Watchman. You can believe all the fairytales you like. Just don't expect me to. Been there, done that.

      kobus.hattingh.5 - 2012-11-16 07:21

      Sorry to say BrainCandy but you were merely practising "religeon" and dont confuse your own "feel good emotions" thinking that is the Holy Spirit. That is merely your flesh being appealed and has got nothing to do about being reborn.

      andrew.arnesen - 2012-11-16 07:50

      The delusions of superiority (for whatever reason) just seem to know no bounds...

      gianni.blayse - 2012-11-16 11:04

      theo herzl you are as backwards and imbecilic as american evangelical christians, stop livingg in your little messianic fantasy world. zionism is a racist policy that is irrelevant. why do poor russian jews who could care less about judaism get to immigrate to israel and live a better life than palestinians who have lived there for generations

      arthur.hugh - 2012-11-16 18:02

      With you on that one Prof. These idiots just keep flying out of the woodwork.

  • bbooyse - 2012-11-15 21:57

    I could be wrong but it sounds like they're planning an offensive.

      mikel.kiparski - 2012-11-15 22:55


      ali.asgar.58323 - 2012-11-15 23:06

      No ur not wrong but I can assure you that before this battle is over, israel's deterrence will be gone. God willing - 2012-11-16 06:53

      The IDF has been to gentle so far. The IAF must bomb the missle launchers. If they choose to launch missles from civilian areas then the blood is on their hands. This is the only way to stop the rocket attacks. The job of the IDF is to protect the people of Israel not the people of Gaza.

  • jason.jaded.1 - 2012-11-15 22:51

    …Cont. An even MORE telling statistic follows. The total number of deaths in the Israeli Army from suicide since 2001 is around the 300 mark. Yes. THREE HUNDRED! That's about 30 Israeli soldiers a year and 6 times more than the average number of Israeli deaths from rocket and mortar fire from Gaza. SIX! The conclusion? Why the hell is the Zionist Israeli regime targeting and killing children, civilians and militants in Gaza by the the thousands and NOT McDonalds or even their own bloody army for that matter? Seriously!

      tommy.jones.754918 - 2012-11-16 08:27

      What if I come at you with a weapon, shooting left right and center, but misses (only scratching you skin), because my weapon is a bit old and rusted. Now, you have a brand new rifle (sponsored by whoever), would you use that weapon to put me down. I certainly hope so, because my last bullet might just hit you between the eyes. See, it is about intent.

  • joy.moloi.3 - 2012-11-15 22:58

    Israel plays the victim card, ignoring the fact that it stole Palestine lands, it continues to bulldoze Palestinian homes, it expels Palestinians from their houses and it gives them to some Zionist from europe or north america. If your home was taken an given to me, what will you do ? will you buy me a beer ?

      Sharon Gien-Cambier - 2012-11-16 07:36

      @Joy go back to sleep, and leave the talking to the adults.

      andrew.arnesen - 2012-11-16 07:55

      @Catlover - you sound more like a little kindergarten kid when you say that... Seriously, why not actually engage in the argument instead of a personal attack? Does the truth hurt??

      eddy.deepfield - 2012-11-16 07:58

      Joy in fact has a point you catlover do not.

      LynneOeschger - 2012-11-16 13:12

      Oh dear. Stolen? Clearly the South African education system fails again. The Jews did not steal Israel.

  • ali.asgar.58323 - 2012-11-15 23:15

    Israel with all its nuclear weapons,armory,tanks,airforce and money is as weak as a spiders house.

      matusowsky - 2012-11-16 00:07

      Considering a spider's web is one of the strongest materials on the planet, what you say is a paradox. In other words, you acknowledge that Israel is a powerhouse. Nice going :).

      ali.asgar.58323 - 2012-11-16 07:35

      Mikethejew belongs in a padded room. He thinks a spiders house is stronger than a shack.

      ali.asgar.58323 - 2012-11-16 09:58

      Perhaps they could but there's the HEZBOLLAH factor to consider. You speak like the Apartheid SADF use to speak. \If we wanted to we could destroy all the black people\, \if we wanted to there would be no Africa\. Where are they now. I rephrase my statement. Israel is much weaker than a spiders house. George, only you and those in your lunatic asylum circle believes that Israel is the victim in this conflict.

  • johan.harlaar.9 - 2012-11-15 23:45

    Have you noticed that no army goes to war without God's blessings? As if she approves killing.

  • johan.harlaar.9 - 2012-11-15 23:46

    What matters in war is not who is right but who is left.

  • fidel.mgoqi - 2012-11-16 00:39

    It is for this reason that Israel's brightest and young are deserting that country and relocating to Europe in order to avoid serving in the Israel Occupation Force (IOF)! A generation raised in hate, self pity, full of arrogance and racism, why any one should raise their family in Israel, just to make their children murderers and racists.

      Africa21stcentury - 2012-11-16 03:51

      MODERN DAY LEFTITS: ""They are baffling people. They talk about human rights, and yet ally with sexist, racist, violent, gay-murdering, human-rights-hating fascists. They come from a long tradition of western support for foreign tyranny. Their central belief seems only to be that America, and Israel, and the white man, must be wrong. All of their decisions are based on that false axiom. As a result, they are enemies of the free countries, friends of third-world tyrants, and enemies of the suffering people all over the world who are forced to live under tyrannies""

      dominic.goller.9 - 2012-11-16 08:09

      where did you suck this out of, at least give real facts here

      stephanie.sutherland41 - 2012-11-16 08:25

      one must remember that Israel is not the only country at fault here. They are surrounded by countries trying to destroy them and all the African countries around those baying for their blood. Gaza and the Palestinian Hamas forces have repeatedly fired on Israel and were warned of the consequences. Now that those consequences look like they are going to materialize, Gaza has wet their undies and are crying fowl. If you scratch a lions balls, don't be surprised if he bites you!!! Simple logic. If Gaza(Palestine) backs off so will Israel, but they won't because they want another war, but i think this time Israel is going to wipe them off the face of the earth to make a statement. Israel is not scared of the other Western nations, and those nations know it....

      tommy.jones.754918 - 2012-11-16 08:30

      Have you seen how many Arabs their are in Europe, especially Britain? The thing is, most Israelis in Europe are there legally, most Arabs have crossed the borders Illegally.

      fidel.mgoqi - 2012-11-16 09:15

      @Stephanie "but i think this time Israel is going to wipe them off the face of the earth to make a statement." Another genocidal maniac. You wouldn't be out of place amongst the SS. At least most of them grew up being brainwashed into being twisted hate filled ideology driven drones. You arrived at that all by your pretty little self!

      tommy.jones.754918 - 2012-11-16 09:17

      Funny enough, the SS had the full support of the Arab nations (if you are talking second world war SS).

      fidel.mgoqi - 2012-11-16 09:23

      You all have access to the internet but are too lazy to do your own research, and you still feel entitled to get outraged & pompous with me. Why Israelis emigrate

      fidel.mgoqi - 2012-11-16 09:34

      Half of Israeli teens want to live abroad,7340,L-3427762,00.html

      fidel.mgoqi - 2012-11-16 11:43

      Your post doesn't support your earlier reasoning faux pass nor detract from my mine! By all means go ahead and make your argument. That is the essence of intelligent debate. But don't expect me to get embroiled in whatabouteries!

  • sicelo.brukwe.9 - 2012-11-16 05:53

    When are these people will stop with their Civil Wars!

      boaz.yarmarkov - 2012-11-16 06:27

      The next 'ceasefire' must be PERMANENT! As Ron Prossor Israel’s UN Ambassador stated; He diligently reported EVERY violation , every rocket attack...and was met with STONY SILENCE from; Egypt, the EU, the US, from the world. Israel will not now take lectures about its retaliation to protect her citizens. The bloodshed is WHOLLY and FULLY the responsibility of Hamas.

      mikel.kiparski - 2012-11-16 08:33

      CIVIL WAR now that is a good description,,,ISMAEL-ISIAC

  • seja.skatana - 2012-11-16 06:25

    ...“If my sons did not want war, there would be none” ... - 2012-11-16 07:00

      Did you listen to Hamas... Allah has told them to fight or die. No western nations on earth could make peace with brainwashed fundamentalists like that. Islam is not the religion of peace - it is the religion of submission. Israel is the bumper between the non Muslim world and Islam. If terror & and Islamic fanaticism is the question - Israel is the answer! This war is bigger then we think - if Israel lose the free world is next for Islam and freedom are enemies - all you have to do is look how they are killing each other in Syria - these people are violent and all they understand is violence. Good luck Israel, you'll need it cause you are humane nation fighting a people who love death - this is a lose - lose situation.

  • chris.holloway.5 - 2012-11-16 06:45

    most ironic... and they worship the same God... religion is bad news...Full stop. - 2012-11-16 07:03

      Not ironic at all... they might worship the same God, but Israel worships life while their Islamic cousins worship death. One can not mix the above up - you’re either alive today for today – or your living today to make your afterlife better.

      eddy.deepfield - 2012-11-16 07:30

      Chris - Some people think there is only one God and he is the same for everybody, as his name only changes because of different languages (God in English, Allah in Arabic, Dieu in French and so on). But that is not true because the definitions of God vary from religion to religion, as do the rules, regulations and instructions given by each religions sacred book.

  • breinlekkasie.dodelikegif - 2012-11-16 06:46

    Excellent, another war! I see an investment opportunity. Higher oil prices, bigger returns on oil shares!

      kobus.hattingh.5 - 2012-11-16 07:25

      At the cost of people's life? Dum investment :(

  • PrettyUsefulArt - 2012-11-16 07:07

    @ Kobus and Watchman - FYI I was a born-again Christian from birth until the age of 36. I was baptised by Ray McCrawley. I was a deacon in one of the largest born-again churches in the Western Cape. So yes, like you, I was well and truly brainwashed, until I started to THINK, that is.

      kobus.hattingh.5 - 2012-11-16 07:24

      No, you weren't brainwashed. You were simply "religeous". There is a difference between being religeous and knowledgeable in the Word and being Reborn and filled with the HS. The one is all about your own flesh and emotions and the other is about true faith and being led by the HS. BIG difference.

      eddy.deepfield - 2012-11-16 07:41

      Kobus - I see you use the standard default comeback when confronted with an ex born again relationship with Jesus Christian. You were never born again. Do you think someone would submit to Jesus and become a deacon if he never really wanted to. More and more Christians are de-converting today, prompted by different life events. Religion is a remnant of our tribal past, an ability for us to group together to be strong, against a group who is not "us". There is really no "us vs. them". There is no Christian vs. Atheist vs Muslim vs. Jew vs. Hindu vs. Buddhist.

      kobus.hattingh.5 - 2012-11-16 08:01

      Eddy, I suggest that you search the article Antichrist on a web You might be supprised in what you learn there :)

      eddy.deepfield - 2012-11-16 08:12

      Kobus - This endless speculation about who or what the antichrist is or isn't, and the links with murky conspiracy theories doesn't do favours for anyone. Some of you would be aware that there is a diversity of thought in the area of eschatology. While they may differ on how this will unfold and when, many, but not all Christians believe that one day God will bring the world as we know it to an end. For Christians, in expectation and anticipation of this fact, the key thing is to make sure that they are right with God. Rather de-convert and become an atheist its much simpler life style.

  • nathania.goosen - 2012-11-16 07:28

    What Israel is doing is wrong everyday innocent children die. I have seen The pictures where a two year old little girls arm is hanging by a piece of Flesh or a little baby’s one foot is gone. These Jews you are defending don’t believe In Jesus they still think he is coming. God has nothing to do with this war It is because of human pride. Both the Israel and Muslim should stop this Nonsense.

      kobus.hattingh.5 - 2012-11-16 07:38

      And you will see many more now Nathania because the Hammas terrorists are firing their rockets from within their own people. And obviously when Israel responds Hammas cries wolf showing these pictures to the world. Its called propaganda. And God is not finished with Israel yet and many will indeed still repent and acknowledge Jesus as the Messiah. But dont go like the rest of the world will and blame Israel. Its those surrouding her that wants to eliminate them AND NOT the other way around.

      eddy.deepfield - 2012-11-16 07:53

      Kobus - The Israel you see today is not the Israel of the Bible. It is a Zionist state that should not be there in Palestine. They were defeated and chased out two thousand years ago. They do not belong there today. Who in their right mind would want a oil less desert in the first place. Let the Palestinians have it they have been there since the Jews left.

      tommy.jones.754918 - 2012-11-16 09:10

      Eddy, by your logic, there shouldn't be blacks in SA. At least you admit there were Israelis/Jews before the Palestinians (Palestinian by the way is not an ancient name, but a modern collective name for the people in that specific region). Also, the Israelis didn't leave by choice, they forced out.

  • arthur.salvado - 2012-11-16 07:49

    Jeepers guys. All too heavy. Let people who want to believe in biblical stories do so. That it's only open to believers is a lot of poofie. The normal reply to the degree of misery on this planet is " we ate not to question the workings of God". It's all done for a purpose. What a lot of rubbish.

  • kaapse.skollie.7 - 2012-11-16 08:22

    9 palestinians killed in 7 days and the invasion hasn't even started yet. 30 000 troops on their way. Looks like the israelis want to finish them off this time. - 2012-11-16 08:35

      hope they do

  • KevvyW - 2012-11-16 14:18

    I cannot understand that those who read the bible, claims to have read it and studied it cannot see all of these events like a thread through the biblical word. Jerusalem, Jerusalem.... It is the cry of God through all ages....Jerusalem Jerusalem.... When is the world going to see that Jerusalem is at the heart of God. Nothing will touch it, unless God allows it. We will discuss and differ, the fact will remain, God will protect it;s own. It has been proven over and over. Now if my thinking is correct, I might even go further and say, we are more closer to a 3rd world war than we might ever imagine. If this escalates, into a regional affair, it is going to a global scale. I see a major historical event on the map...

  • aiazmir - 2012-11-16 17:27

    All financed by the USA. Without the US, Israel would have their tail between their legs and behaving like their religion degrees, but without the Zionists in the US the US President would be somebody else. Basically the Zionists, who are not necessarily Jewish or Israeli, manipulate the Middle East for their own benefit - oil dollars. The Zionists in the Israeli government are a minority that manipulate the majority of Israeli's to do their will. It will be interesting to see how many of the 30, 000 pitch up.

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