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Boy, 11, fathers child with woman, 36

2013-06-15 16:04

Wellington - An 11-year-old New Zealand boy was reported on Saturday to have fathered a child with the 36-year-old mother of a school friend, raising questions on why women cannot be charged with rape in the country.

Counsellors working in the area of child sexual abuse said the case highlighted a lack of attention to women as potential offenders, according to the New Zealand Herald, which reported the story.

The case has also prompted an examination of the law, under which the crime of rape applies only to men.

Justice Minister Judith Collins said she would investigate, the paper reported.

"This case raises an important point. I will seek advice from officials on whether or not a law change is required," Collins said.

The woman and boy, whose names were not released, live in the main North Island district of Auckland.

The boy's school principal told the New Zealand Herald that he was shocked when the child told him what was happening.

"You won't be very happy with me," he recalled the boy saying late last year. He said he had been having sex with his friend's mother "and it needs to stop".

The organisation Male Survivors of Sexual Abuse said if the case is proved then the woman should be held accountable.

Under New Zealand law, the crime of rape applies only to men and carries a maximum jail sentence of 20 years.

Women who force a male to have sex face a charge of sexual violation which carries a maximum 14-year sentence.

According to the newspaper, government welfare officials - who took the baby into care about two months ago - confirmed they were dealing with a case at the boy's school and that it was before the courts, but refused to comment further. The police also refused to comment.

The Herald reported that the young father, who has now turned 12, was also understood to have been taken into care.

Comments
  • Jacques - 2013-06-15 16:08

    Jeepers. Makes for an uneasy image.

  • Lynn Skinner - 2013-06-15 16:12

    SICK! SICK! SICK! That woman must be prosecuted for corrupting an innocent child! 25 years older than him, would be OK if she was 50 and he 25 but not at 11 and 36. The common tart.

      Wendy Engelbrecht - 2013-06-16 00:59

      This is just sick!!! That boy is not innocent but he surly was abused by this 36 year old femail no no no no !! Se must be charged with abuse and put into jail! The poor boy he is only 12. I meen WTF!!!!

  • mica.gogome - 2013-06-15 16:19

    Eish,yaa neh.

  • Kosie Nel - 2013-06-15 16:31

    Some Kiwi inbreds!!

  • Duma Mqwathi - 2013-06-15 16:35

    This needs serious prayer !

      Riaan Mostert - 2013-06-16 17:18

      I think more immediate and drastic action is needed!

      Gail Hayes-Bean - 2013-06-16 18:33

      Riaan, how much more immediate do you want? The 12 year old father has been placed in care and the child born as a result of this has likewise been placed in care. Where were the 12 year old boy's parents while this was happening? Why was he placed in care instead of the parents ensuring that the child receives counselling. Obviously the woman who is involved must surely have been taken into custody however on what charge. Abuse? What of her own son whose friend the 12 year old boy is? Where oh where are the fathers of both these boys?

  • Marieta Theron de Jongh - 2013-06-15 16:35

    I think they must check if he is a father..... and she must be prosecuted...

  • Igshaan Cornelius - 2013-06-15 16:41

    You cant even leave the kids alone

  • Rhulani - 2013-06-15 16:44

    Yho! The world is coming to an end, a 11 year old boy making a 36 year old women pregnent!!! I wonder who was in control here, lol...

      Mhaka Khoza - 2013-06-16 16:28

      lol for what? This sh@ ain't funny dumbo!!

  • mzseatla - 2013-06-15 16:52

    yoh! out of words!

  • Prudee Matshidiso Shivambu Makondo - 2013-06-15 17:02

    Clearly da woman has no shame

  • Vuyiseka Mimi Maqhubu - 2013-06-15 17:10

    ben 10 on de play.

  • Busisiwe MakaSessy Zidepa - 2013-06-15 17:34

    hayi ilizwe libhentsile

  • Shirley Bisschoff - 2013-06-15 17:35

    Absolutely sickening. If you reverse the gender roles and a 36 year old man was having sex with an 11 year old girl, we'd all agree that's rape. There should not be sexism involved here.

  • Colleen Erasmus - 2013-06-15 17:55

    My question is, did the boy inform his parents of what was happening and they were aware, were they turning a blind eye? The women in question I'm sorry to say has no conscience, that could have been her son, its absolutely sickening that she would stoop so low! You would think she would also have some savy upstairs and use some kind of protection. As hard as it is I'm glad the children have been removed from both sets of parents, for there own safety! I just hope she can live with herself! I as a mother am horrified at this story, 11 years old still a child!

      Cedric Jonkers - 2013-06-16 09:11

      I doubt the woman wondered: What if someone would do that to her child? How would she feel about that?

      Gail Hayes-Bean - 2013-06-16 18:45

      You know the women who this boy was having sex with may be mentally ill - schizophrenic perhaps. she certainly doesn't sound like the brightest candle in the chandelier if she wasn't using contraception. Where was her husband or was she a single mother and how does one know her own son wasn't also being abused/molested. These boys were sexually aware and while the women was old it doesn't mean there was no sexual gratification involved for the participant/victim. Maybe he had no mother of his own and so no parent to talk to other than his father? We don't know whether the mother wsn't doing this to her own son Cedric. Poor kids of today in general.

      Charci Moll - 2013-06-16 21:42

      “These boys were sexually aware and while the women was old it doesn't mean there was no sexual gratification involved for the participant/victim.” Gail, what has sexual gratification got to do with anything? If you read stories of survivors of child sexual abuse, both male and female, there is sometimes an element of sexual gratification. Especially when the child is groomed. Many survivors are deeply ashamed of this aspect of their abuse. It's still abuse! A child CANNOT give consent to sex! It's the first time I've read a comment attempting to explain a perpetrator's actions with Schizophrenia. As for you comment below, “One case like this doesn't necessarily require changes to the law.” Seems like the Americans would strongly disagree with you. They throw female perpetrators straight in jail, not asylums. Take a look at the latest arrests on femalesexoffenders.com Your other comment below: “Was it rape or were they two people of vastly differing age physically but sexually at the same age.“ What? If the genders were reversed, your comments would be vastly different.

  • Aubrey Manare Obrigado Mabala - 2013-06-15 18:01

    poor boy

  • Sinegugu Ka Masimbonge Gumede - 2013-06-15 18:01

    The world is coming to an end,the woman has no self respect.we must realy pray

  • Asanda Gula - 2013-06-15 18:12

    Oh my word! shocked and speechless.

  • Lungisani Zungu - 2013-06-15 18:20

    Give that boy a bells.

  • Bulelwa Mhazana Xesibe Salie - 2013-06-15 18:26

    The world is really coming to an end now! *shocked for decades*

  • Mulisa Makhalimela - 2013-06-15 18:47

    at the age of 12 being a father,wat would this worman say 2 a child wen is grown up,but this thing of saying in Nwzealand rape aplies 2 men,this worman must b charged,ther is no way that this boy proposed this worman,she must b charged

  • Stephen Michaels - 2013-06-15 19:08

    i initially thought such acts are pro -South African....homo sapiens are species of a kind no matter where they are!!

      Mthunzi Ngobese - 2013-06-16 09:04

      Maybe this woman is an ex-South African after all...

  • Joshua Chitera - 2013-06-15 20:08

    Is it true? this woman should be investigated and punished for abusing this child.

  • Joshua Chitera - 2013-06-15 20:09

    Is it true? this woman should be investigated and punished for abusing this child.

  • Luzuko Blazzanha Dinga - 2013-06-15 20:56

    Unbelievable

  • Abongile S. Ngozi - 2013-06-15 20:59

    Nants' Inkunzi yenkwenkwe

  • Uhone Tshifularo - 2013-06-15 21:09

    Some people have no shame, Undressing for someone old enough to be ur grandchild is one thing but when that child is not even matured enough to know whats happening that's just damn right devilish.

  • Refness Mohlala - 2013-06-15 21:27

    There is nothing like that!

  • Siphiwo Phiwo Ndabandaba - 2013-06-15 21:39

    Sies !

  • Alfred Mlambo - 2013-06-15 21:41

    That woman is crazy,she surely hv to be prosecuted!!!

      Gail Hayes-Bean - 2013-06-16 18:54

      If she is crazy prosecution is not the solution - she should be placed in a facility where her behaviour is monitored and sterilised. Where is the father of the friend - maybe the friend is the result of another 12 year old or random sperm donor.

  • Andisw'amatshutsha Gezenga - 2013-06-15 21:45

    Tjo what happened to this mother who doubled the years of his child's father hay Jesus come down!

  • Vinesh Moodley - 2013-06-15 22:14

    lots of women want younger men but this is rediculous!

  • Clerance Lephaka - 2013-06-15 22:47

    The world is coming to an end.we are at the ending time indeed.

  • Ri-xile B Mabasa - 2013-06-15 22:57

    give that boy a bells

  • Prince Themba TheFirst - 2013-06-15 22:59

    Some ppl take this ben10 thing too far!

  • ndyeboreginaldmazawule - 2013-06-15 23:41

    Rape

  • Vernon Scott - 2013-06-16 00:37

    What I want to know is, are the sheep ok.

  • Gavin Burger - 2013-06-16 00:39

    Bull story. At 11 years old the male body does produce sperm, not until atleast 13, and even if the body did, the sperm count would be too low. This woman should be charged just for having sex with the kid, trash!!

      Pule Mogale - 2013-06-16 08:49

      Am also surprised. maybe a giri child but a boy child reaching Puberty at 11?

      Gail Hayes-Bean - 2013-06-16 18:56

      Kids mature younger these days and while you may be right about low sperm count this does not mean no sperm

  • Ntobane Setabola - 2013-06-16 01:26

    Aw Boy Boy...

  • Modibedi Mano - 2013-06-16 06:48

    He told the principal that he's been having sex with the mother of his friend nd it needs 2 stop,oviusly he had already duplicated himself by then,he can actualy becum a grandfather b4 he reaches 28,I STIL DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW MEN CAN B RAPED,mayb we just diferent

  • Sthembiso Mlangeni - 2013-06-16 07:06

    Wht was this woman thinking

  • Thulani Mphahlwa - 2013-06-16 07:13

    Oops! Age is jst a number. Lack of knowledge is such a killer, had no idea that a 11 jaar oud culd possibl impregnate someone. The law needs to be changed

  • Marule Ngwato Mahlase - 2013-06-16 07:22

    Yah neh! The world/life is indeed nearing to its end. Our society is rapidly becoming immoral, it is not funny anymore!

  • Ntithose Ntuli - 2013-06-16 07:55

    is it realy 2ru.? Tjoo

  • Zakes Seema - 2013-06-16 07:57

    OMG!!!

  • Godfrey Ndivhu - 2013-06-16 08:05

    Speechless

  • Caswell Mnisi - 2013-06-16 08:53

    Okay I get the story but something is no right here. It appears that this young man kept coming for more after school. My question is how many time did they have sex until this old woman get pregnant? This boy only decided to tell after he was told that he was the father? And why did he always go into that house knowingly that he is going to have sex if he didn't want?

      Shireen Abbas Davids - 2013-06-16 09:40

      Simple answer , HE WaS ouGAT ! Lokl +that woman demented !

  • Brian Mc - 2013-06-16 09:20

    Give him a bells, he is the man!

  • christos 52 - 2013-06-16 10:30

    I'm speechless

  • Sakhiwo - 2013-06-16 11:17

    That woman should be charged for rape.Why must we be charged alone when we impreg. an underage girl?

      Ahmed Yare - 2013-06-16 11:58

      amazing. But why he told the history after he found out he is a father.of a child.? Why he did not report b4.?

  • Amelia Goodwin - 2013-06-16 12:02

    Yes New Zealand...the woman is a shameless rapist. A sexual predetor of young boys. Disgusting. The boy is a victim here.