Call for swifter action against Iran

2012-07-26 13:02

Jerusalem - Israeli Defence Minister Ehud Barak called on Wednesday for major powers to speed up efforts to stop Iran's nuclear programme, cautioning it would be tougher to confront it once Tehran managed to cross an atomic threshold.

Israeli media interpreted Barak's comments as pushing for a possible Israeli strike against Iran to stop a project the West sees as a drive to achieve nuclear weapons though Tehran denies seeking nuclear weapons, saying its programme is intended solely for peaceful purposes.

"I am very well aware and know in depth the difficulties and complexity involved in preventing Iran from achieving nuclear weapons," Barak told a graduation ceremony for security officers, in remarks later released by his office.

"But it is clear to me beyond any doubt that confronting that [nuclear] challenge in itself once it ripens if it ripens, will be infinitely more complex infinitely more dangerous and infinitely more costly in human life and resources," he said.

"This is the time for the entire world to ready for united action, united goal in political desire in order to put a swift and definite stop to the Iranian nuclear project," Barak said.

In his lengthy remarks, Barak said Israel now faced "its most complex challenges ever", adding "we may need to make fateful and difficult decisions with regard to Israel's security", pointing also to what he called growing instability posed by popular revolts in neighbouring Arab countries.

'Time running out'

"The events of the Arab spring, which have gradually evolved into an Islamic summer, show that at the ultimate hour of decision we can rely at the moment of truth on ourselves alone," Barak said.

The Israeli news website Ynet quoted an unnamed senior official as interpreting Barak's remarks as an attempt "to push with all his might" in favour of an attack on Iran, which Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's cabinet was weighing whether to launch in the coming weeks, media reports said.

Israel has cautioned it saw time as running out before Iran achieves a "zone of immunity" in which Israeli bombs cannot penetrate deeply buried uranium enrichment facilities, and that Western economic sanctions had so far not achieved a goal of stopping Iran's nuclear programme.

Netanyahu's ex-deputy, Shaul Mofaz, cautioned this week, just days after quitting the Israeli cabinet in a dispute over a military conscription law, against what he called "operational adventures".

Israeli media saw Mofaz's comments as a hint of possible action against Iran. His remarks also echoed the warnings of other former Israeli security officials against any go-it-alone attack on Iran's nuclear facilities, with some saying such an assault could backfire by spurring Tehran to speed up uranium enrichment.

But the failure of talks between Iran and six world powers to secure a breakthrough in curbing what the West fears is a drive to develop nuclear bombs has raised international concerns that Israel, widely assumed to be the Middle East's only nuclear-armed state, might opt for a military strike.

Those negotiations, Netanyahu said on the Fox television news channel on Sunday, had failed to slow uranium enrichment in Iran "one bit".

  • fidel.mgoqi - 2012-07-26 13:22

    Sounds like the sabres are being rattled to accompany the drums. The good old weapons of mass destruction. We are still looking for the Iraqi ones. Should they not try to find those first before they kill another million civilians?

      gerhard.kress.3 - 2012-07-26 13:51

      If Iran has got nothing to hide, why don't they open their doors for inspection? Everybody else does. Iran will create its own destiny.

      fidel.mgoqi - 2012-07-26 14:04

      "Everybody else does", really? First of all Iran does not need to prove a negative. Secondly, honesty seems to be a rare commodity amongst the 3 morons you call world leaders, Obama, Cameron and the French. The Iranians can be annoying, and seemingly too clever by half, but the Iranian people have been raked over the coals by the West once too often. Their attitude is entirely comprehensible.

      gerhard.kress.3 - 2012-07-26 14:16

      Yes the international agency really inspects nuclear facilities regularly across the globe. Iran just acts like a neurotic child, just like you. Your obnoxiousness looking for confrontation instead of the easiest way forward is proof of that.

      laurence.bekink.3 - 2012-07-26 14:16

      Too true. Gerhard, you obviously have zero and I mean absolutely no clue that everyone does not open their door. Israel is commonly accepted to have the bomb (given to them by the their mates in Washington) yet they never signed the NNP treaty and have never opened their doors for an inspection. Get your facts straight before you shoot your mouth off.

      fred.fraser.12 - 2012-07-26 16:23

      'The evil West" again. Never-mind that the Iranian regime has hijacked the Iranian state from the Iranian people by adjusting election results. Never-mind that it supports the stoning to death of women for adultery and such. Never-mind that it is aiding and abetting the unelected dictator of Syria who is slaughtering Muslims by the thousands, detaining, torturing and raping them by the tens of thousands just because they want to vote for their leaders. Never-mind that it abuses the Palestinians by inciting them to attack Israel almost daily, to present a false external enemy to the Iranian people. Never-mind that it openly denies the occurrence of the Holocaust, the single biggest attempt at human genocide in the history of humankind: six million people killed in a few years. Never-mind that it funds Jihadists who are killing and maiming hundreds of thousands of Muslims in the Middle East and Africa. Never-mind that everyone knows Saddam Hussein did have chemical weapons. He used them agains Kurdish Iraqi's who he gassed to death by the tens of thousands. He used them against Iran in his war against that country, in which 1,000,000 Iranians were killed. To Fidel the West is evil, and everything that's happening comes down to this one, immature belief.

      larry.lachman.54 - 2012-07-26 19:06

      Israeli's invented the bomb and were sufficiently high-tech forty years ago to produce their own, anything. The only idiots here are those supporting a despotic pseudo-fascist regime over Western Democracies.

      jason.jaded.1 - 2012-07-27 08:24

      Wow, Larry! Does your propaganda know not limits? Now Israelis invented the nuclear bomb? I suppose that they also invented time travel, because the last time I checked the Nuclear bomb was invented in the USA and successfully tested in July 1945. Where as the State of Israel was only founded four years later. Hmmmmm...

      fred.fraser.12 - 2012-07-27 21:28

      Patrick's words of wisdom. He has little real understanding of what is going on. He regurgitates street, rhetoric that is plied by the very dictators oppressing Muslims all through the Middle East, which the citizens of their countries are now seeing through and acting against. Patrick hasn't caught up with reality yet.

      larry.lachman.54 - 2012-07-29 09:12

      Wow, Jason. Who were the personalities that invented the bomb? These Jewish scientists became Israeli citizens and therefore Israel was born with this technology in hand.

  • gerhard.kress.3 - 2012-07-26 14:21

    Shame, Israel is entitled to it since they are not signatories just like North Korea. But Iran is refusing to commit to what they signed. That is where the problem is.

      fidel.mgoqi - 2012-07-26 14:24

      Just like North Korea, is Israel being sanctioned?

      laurence.bekink.3 - 2012-07-26 14:30

      Oh so now you change your tune. A quick google and now try and reposition yourself to hide your ignorance. Fidel, we not dealing with the sharpest crayon in the box here im afraid.

      fidel.mgoqi - 2012-07-26 14:35

      His chief characteristic is his fear of thinking for himself, oh and supercilious wannabe smart-alecky one-liners.

      gerhard.kress.3 - 2012-07-26 14:43

      Just like North Korea, is Israel being sanctioned? Fidel what has this got to do with Iran? You are digressing because of emotive political, romantic notions of international politics.

      fidel.mgoqi - 2012-07-26 14:52

      Because it is an absolute nonsense for Israel to be pointing the finger at Iran over its "nuclear ambitions" when the very same country is sitting on and hiding behind vile, obscene stacks of stinking nuclear weapons. It is you that brought up North Korea.

      gerhard.kress.3 - 2012-07-26 14:58

      Iran is not adhering to the protocol they signed. They are the originators of the conflict.

      fidel.mgoqi - 2012-07-26 15:20

      Iran is allowed under the NPT to enrich uranium up to 20% levels which is not sufficient grade for a nuclear device. Dozens of countries use enriched uranium as an energy source, but this cannot be used in the manufacture of a nuclear weapon without a prior complicated purification process. Weapons inspectors into Iran - and Israel. Any arguments against?

      gerhard.kress.3 - 2012-07-26 15:34

      I am trying to understand, what is a mgoqi?

      fred.fraser.12 - 2012-07-26 16:24

      Fidel's immature anti-West views at play again.

      larry.lachman.54 - 2012-07-26 19:10

      Iran sits on top of abundant and very cheap oil reserves. why on earth does it want to spend billions of dollars on nuclear energy. Iran will be stopped.

      dave.kofang - 2012-07-26 22:15

      So who does the Israelis think they are to enforce a treaty they were not part of?I wish China can also attack them.

      fred.fraser.12 - 2012-07-26 23:41

      Nice Dave. That'll make our works a better place. More violence from Africa.

      dave.kofang - 2012-07-27 09:13

      The rightwing govt of Netanyahu wants to plunge the world into a nuclear armaggedon.I hope Russia and China can stop their madness.

      fred.fraser.12 - 2012-07-27 21:25

      Like Fidel, Patrick is choosing to hold a highly immature anti-west core belief. It leads him to believe that the neo-Communist Chinese and Russian regimes, which are themselves autocratic and oppressive, are saviors of Syrians WHO WANT TO VOTE and who are being slaughtered by an UNELECTED dictator ARMED BY RUSSIA. Talk about being blind, blinding oneself.

  • paco.rodriguez.9210 - 2012-07-26 15:05

    lets have swifter action on these US and Israeli cowards that kill,rape,maime,disfigure and displace innocent civilians daily

      laurence.bekink.3 - 2012-07-26 15:25

      Bravo Paco, couldn't agree with you more!

      fred.fraser.12 - 2012-07-26 16:26

      Israel was created from 52% of the land formerly occupied by the Jewish and Palestinian people, and Palestine 43%. Most of the Israeli territory was the Negev Desert. And Jerusalem fell into neither territory. The Palestinians with their unelected neighbors declared war on her the very next day. In the 1960's they invaded Israel twice. Full military invasions. The result: Israel survived and pushed them back, gaining territory in the process. This is the origin of what some wrongly call occupied territories. There have been almost daily attacks by Palestinians, incited by their self-serving unelected backers. Palestinians even teach their children at Kindergarten to attack Israel, rather than be peaceful. Children. Kindergarten. From day one, and even today it's wage war on Israel. All that needs to happen is for Palestinians to choose peace side by side with Israel. This is more likely going forward now because the unelected dictators are being removed from power by their people one by one. They will no longer use the Palestinians in their own internal political ploys.

      jason.jaded.1 - 2012-07-26 17:11

      @fred.fraser You need to be done with it and change your handle to "hasbara.troll.1" Your copy/pasted comment has no relevance to the article above, which makes no mention of the Palestinians or their struggle with Israel. It only serves to prove our deepest suspicions of your propaganda in all Comment sections regarding Israel. Some of us have our own personal opinions – be they right, wrong or both – and don't spew out the irrelevant mindless opinions of others Ad nauseam...

      fred.fraser.12 - 2012-07-26 18:01

      Exactly where is my post copied and pasted from?

      jason.jaded.1 - 2012-07-26 19:52

      @Fred You've copied and pasted the bulk of this very comment from previous comments you've made right here on News24. I quick google search will proves that. Amateur move, mate. I didn't say that it wasn't originally your work, but the knee-jerk reaction of jumping to the defence of ANY form anti-israeli comments by pasting a completely irrelevant, but oh so "educational", argument portraying Israel in the role of "innocent victim" while painting an evil portrait of Islamic Jihadists around every corner, simply reeks of Hasbara tactics... Time to change your handle, dude. Maybe Larry will lend you his for a month or two? Or you could just copy and paste that old chestnut about how Israelis invented the micro-processor and the stent, and how the world should be worshiping them for their contribution to the modern world...

      fred.fraser.12 - 2012-07-26 20:05

      The point YOU'RE making, Jason, is irrelevant. It has no bearing on the Iranian issue. You're trying to distract from the discussion at hand.

  • jason.jaded.1 - 2012-07-26 16:40

    This is a VERY dangerous hand Israel is playing in an already high-stakes game. I hope for both their sakes that they have at least two aces in the hole and aren't trying to win on a bluff. I'm not going to bother postulating whether Iran are, or aren't, trying to acquire weaponise nuclear abilities (and neither should anyone else, especially their sworn enemies). Basically any pre-emptive strikes by Israel (or its allies) will not only guarantee Iran's determination to do so, but will offer the perfect excuse to leave the Non-Proliferation Treaty via Article X, but also enable them to acquire nuclear weapon status WITHOUT question! The question we should REALLY be asking is why Israel (a State that everybody knows is armed up the wazoo with nuclear weapons, yet still stands by its policy of deliberate ambiguity regarding the Non-Proliferation Treaty and its own capabilities) is so actively intent on forcing the hand of Iran. In turn only cementing and legitimising any intentions Iran may or may not have to gain weaponised nuclear capabilities? The cries of self defence by the nuclear armed "victim" State of Israel are beginning to sound a lot like blatant bullying screams of hostility against Iran, which has no weapons of mass destruction and yet is one of only a few nations that have been on the receiving end of such weapons. For all their big talk about their hatred of Israel, Iran are looking a lot less like the protagonists when it comes to their foreign policies...

      jason.jaded.1 - 2012-07-26 16:42

      ... if actions truly speak louder than words, Israel need to be wary of their actions, else face global scrutiny regarding their so called "defensive" tactics.

      fred.fraser.12 - 2012-07-26 17:00

      It sounds that way to you, because you're editing out big parts of the story. It is true that Israel has occasionally gone too far in defending itself, which is unacceptable. But she IS defending herself against perpetual almost daily attacks by those who openly want her destruction. .

      fidel.mgoqi - 2012-07-26 17:13

      The Iranian 'threat' has proved very useful for extremists in Israel, who have exploited it to justify their ongoing colonisation, dispossession, fragmentation and ethnic cleansing of the Palestinians. It provides a muffling sound to the cement mixers and bulldozers destroying Palestinian orchards and villages. Without Iran, Israel is unable to garner the billions of dollars in aid from America. Ayatollah Khomeini deserves a life size Bronze statute in the middle of Jerusalem for helping the Israelis maintain the flow of foreign aid. Refer to Orwell's 1984 about creating bogey men. Noam Chomsky calls it "necessary illusions". At the moment it's the Iranians, soon it'll be space aliens.

      jason.jaded.1 - 2012-07-26 17:29

      Fine. It's Thursday, show me evidence of four attacks against Israel and perpetrated directly by IRAN this week. One for each day. I bet there isn't even one. Hizbollah don't count because they're whores and will take money from anyone. It's hardly fair to single out and declare war on Iran (as cr@ppy as they are when it comes to human rights violations) when half of the Middle-East is funding their activities. Heck! Any decent conspiracy theorist would suggest that Israel itself funds a portion of Hezbollah's activities to keep their citizens in "fear" and justify their military might (which strangely never seem to be of any great significance in comparison to the rockets that Hamas lob over their pretty little garden fence or the number killed in any number of Israeli retaliations). In fact if Israel were to attack anyone based on the antics of Hezbollah it should be Lebanon, considering this is their traditional home and base of operations. Why Iran? Why Not Lebanon? Hell! Why not Syria? Especially considering that Syria IS a nation with weapons of mass destruction! Or were you just being melodramatic?

      fidel.mgoqi - 2012-07-26 17:51

      Fred/it still needs to go and consult with his/her/its head commissars.

      fred.fraser.12 - 2012-07-26 18:05

      Again, Fidel is inverting reality with his immature anti-West core-belief. It is the UNELECTED dictators of the Middle East who have been using the Palestinians for their own internal political ploys, to present a false external enemy to their populations. This is an age-old ploy of autocratic regimes. To Fidel, anyone who differs from his highly immature world view is fake, an "it".

      fred.fraser.12 - 2012-07-26 18:09

      Jason edits out that the Iranian regime denies the occurrence of the Holocaust, the single biggest attempt at human genocide in human history, and calls for the destruction of Israel. He also edits out that the regime funds Jihadists who are killing and maiming hundreds of thousands of Muslims in the Middle East and Africa. He doesn't seem to care that it supports the stoning to death of women. Like Fidel, all this is made-up by the West. When in fact it is his view that is made-up, a manipulation of reality.

      larry.lachman.54 - 2012-07-26 19:17

      The real threat posed by Iran is that it may produce nuclear 'dirty' bombs and hand these to Hamas and Hisballah terrorists. Then when an Israeli city is 'nuked' Iran will sit back and say 'it wasn't us'. Iran may not have this ability BECAUSE it supports and sponsors anti-Israel terrorists. This is not just politics, it is a high level warfare on progress.

      jason.jaded.1 - 2012-07-26 20:24

      Edit out? You give me far too much credit guy. I didn't bother to mention Iran's opinions regarding the Holocaust, because YET AGAIN it's not relevant to the topic at hand. i.e. Why a full military offensive is justified when rebuking a nation for running it mouth and airing it's albeit distorted beliefs... Heck! If that was the norm, we'd have to invade the Vatican for it's messed up and extremely vocal beliefs against contraception, or the North America because of their crazy Scientologists! Besides. Did i not say that Iran have a deplorable track record when it comes to human rights violations? Truth is i think that they're a bunch of autocratic lunatics who aren't fit to run a country let alone their mouths, but that doesn't justify the need for a full military offensive, just because their testosterone levels are overly active and they feel the urge to talk tough. As for editing out the bit about Iran funding Jidhadists that attack Muslims in AFRICA and the Middle-East? Again! Utterly irrelevant to why ISRAEL cares or feels the urge to take military action in these people's defence or on their behalf? I think not, especially with their track record of ejecting African migrants and non-Israeli Arabs out of their country the moment the Jewish identity may be diluted. Doubt they're going to spring to their defence. Hardly editing. Unlike the diversionary tactics of "hasbara.troll.1", who runs interference by pointing to irrelevant factoids and avoids the topic at hand.

      fred.fraser.12 - 2012-07-26 20:33

      You're still avoiding that the Iranian regime denies the occurrence of the Holocaust, which claimed the lives of 6 million JEWISH people, and openly calls for the destruction of Israel. Next time you're confronted by people wanting to destroy you, and who deride the tortured death of your family and friends, let me know how you feel and what you intend doing.

      jason.jaded.1 - 2012-07-26 21:05

      No. I DIDN'T avoid the the fact that Iran denies the Holocaust. OMG! Did you even READ my comment? I though that I explained it quite clearly, yet further and further you try and drag us all away from the points made in the article above... Now is that Hasbara Troll Attribute number 8, 10, 12, 13, 14 or all of them at once? Argh, too many to chose from I lose count... Need to read the handbook again, dammit. Why do I even bother? Oh, wait! I forgot Rule No. 1 on News24: Don't feed the trolls! My bad! Good night all...

      fred.fraser.12 - 2012-07-26 23:20

      I hope you have a nice rest, in your pseudo melodrama-induced sleep. Your denuding of the Iranian involvement in attacks on Israel, which IS the subject of this thread, is clear in your posts.

      jason.jaded.1 - 2012-07-27 08:53

      Oh, well. One last try then... "denuding of the Iranian involvement in attacks on Israel" Why, i can hardly take the credit for denuding Iran's involvement in attacks targeting Israel. That credit should go to Mossad or the CIA. I have no personal evidence of Iran's involvement in this regard. Now if what you REALLY meant to say was "denouncing" (ie. denying) rather than "denuding" (ie. the act of uncovering, make bare, or expose) then, surprise! You're wrong there too, because I DIDN'T say that Iran was not involved, I merely suggested that they weren't involved to the extent that you were implying (i.e "perpetual almost daily attacks"). Best you look up the meanings of the following words: Perpetual, Daily, Denude, Denounce. Again this point is NOT the topic of the article, but of the comment thread, of course I have made mention of these areas in my posts, because they were in RESPONSE to YOUR ramblings about Israel being attacked. You brought up this line of reasoning/anti-reasoning and have tried to direct attention away from the topic at hand and you have tried to orchestrate an argument to justify Israel's defence contrary to what is being discussed. I have been responding point for point to the arguments made in here , while you choose not to, in favour of changing the argument with every comment you make. We at least try and answer your questions, you don't even bother. You just spin another Hasbara "fact" and change the topic via more questioning.

      fred.fraser.12 - 2012-07-27 09:06

      Who's we? And I didn't say Iran is attacking Israel daily. I said Israel is being attacked almost daily. It's a long and tedious post.

  • malik.vazi - 2012-07-26 19:50

    Iran should build the bomb if they so wish, that's the only tool that can shut up all the big mouths from scarring us with Armageddon, whereas they are terrorist sponsoring countries themselves. The Middle East is a rough neighbourhood. Saudi Arabia and other US/Israel client states are propped to hate and fight Iran in exchange for security under US and Israeli protection. I say the Iranian will be morons if they don't go for it, and give the rest a thumb up. Ask North Korea, no one is about to attack it any-time soon because they are mad enough to use it. The US is the only country to have used the bomb and they want it only for themselves and their friends, what a BS! I am angry SA gave it up. Viva the uncompromising Ayatollahs, down with wicked double standards underpinned by a sense of superiority complex down! Now let the the fascists have a field day and call me anti west, anti Semitic, anti democratic, or whatever they use to undercut the truth and want to chase us out of the school play ground. Enjoy

      fred.fraser.12 - 2012-07-26 20:07

      Talk about being upside down. you're openly promoting the oppression of Muslims, especially Muslim women, by unelected dictators.

      dave.kofang - 2012-07-26 22:00

      @Fred just shut up cos u failed to answer my question about whether govts in Saudi arabia,Qatar,Bahrain,Oman,Jordan are elected?

      fred.fraser.12 - 2012-07-26 23:24

      Is this thread about Bahrain, Saudi Arabia or Qatar? No.

      fred.fraser.12 - 2012-07-26 23:27

      Dave wants to allow the autocratic Syrian and Iranian regimes to oppress the citizens of those countries because the regimes of Saudi Arabia, Bahrain and Qatar are unelected.

      dave.kofang - 2012-07-27 09:02

      @Fred im saying this bcos you always cry about UNELECTED govts only when it suits you.Recently Bahrain crushed a demostrations with a help of Saudi arabia and you said nothing.You are one of many pro-israeli hypocrites in our mist.

      fred.fraser.12 - 2012-07-27 09:10

      You missed what I said about Bahrain. But again, this thread is about Syrian. Sad that you bring up Israel the way you do. Clearly you're a rhetoric cowboy, one who falls for faulty popular rhetoric, rather than uncover truer reality.

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