Don't take me yet, begs ailing Chavez

2012-04-07 22:55

Caracas - President Hugo Chavez's made an emotional plea this week that put his health and political future in the spotlight, begging God "don't take me yet" at an Easter mass after months of brave faces and reassuring words.

A day after arriving home from Cuba where he is undergoing a second round of radiation for recurrence of cancer he said he thought he had beaten, Chavez attended Holy (Maundy) Thursday mass in his home state of Barinas, and let loose an emotional public appeal to the heavens.

Flanked by family members in his political home, Chavez, 57, wore a rosary around his neck, and with his voice breaking, asked God: "Please don't take me yet.

"Give me your crown of thorns, Christ, I will bleed; Give me your cross, 100 crosses - and I will carry them for you. But give me life, because I still have things to do for my people and my country."

After more than a year of confident words from the gregarious and tough-talking president, it was a stunning turning of the political page: Chavez acknowledged the possibility of a future without him.

Stiff challenge

"In that extremely moving moment, he has acknowledged there is a chance he will be leaving the political arena," said sociologist Carlos Raul Hernandez of the Central University of Venezuela. "He was in an emotionally desperate state."

Political analyst Carmen Beatriz Fernandez of pollsters Dataestrategia agreed.

"The veil of silence and mystery about his illness is now off," she said. "It was like a medical report... He has made it clear his illness is fatal."

Chavez has been in power since 1999. He faces a stiff challenge from 39-year-old state governor Henrique Capriles, who was chosen to represent a unified opposition in primaries earlier this year.

He has yet to allow publicly that he might not be up to the campaign ahead. His Twitter account on Saturday said he had "6 months to open the door to the future" for Venezuela, alluding to the election.

The official deadline for registration of candidates for political parties is June 11, and the government at no point has allowed that there could be a ruling party candidate other than the president.

But local media have speculated Foreign Minister Nicolas Maduro and Vice President Elias Jaua as well as lawmaker Diosdado Cabello could be on deck and ready for prime time.

Radiation treatment

The problem for Chavez' "revolutionary" socialist party: Cabello "cannot win the election and neither can Maduro or Jaua", Fernandez said.

Earlier Chavez said he will be travelling to Cuba again on Saturday to undergo a third round of radiotherapy in the hope of beating his cancer diagnosed in 2011.

Chavez is expected to complete five weeks of radiation treatment in Havana, but return home for brief periods during that time. He completed the first two rounds of treatment in Havana, where he had surgery last month to remove a malignant tumour in the same area where another tumour was excised in June last year.

Officials in Caracas have never specified the type of cancer the president has, but earlier insisted it had not spread to other organs.

Some 18 million Venezuelans will be eligible to vote in the October ballots.

  • Butter - 2012-04-07 23:06

    when your time is up nothing will stop you from leaving this earth.What an idiot this man is !!!

      docter.maake - 2012-04-08 05:13

      Butter u a wrong if u humble your self before thee eyes of the lord he shall lift u up.the prayer of charvez is a prayer that cums deep down from his heart and may the almaghty save him.

      Anton - 2012-04-08 10:31

      @ Butter-not cool man, have some class @zaatheist- you're just a bible basher from the other side of the fence, stop being so lame and spewing the same boring, monotonous dribble that all you "I have found the truth, come and join my cult" so called enlightened souls keep on doing. How about trying this- Live & let live

      Fidel - 2012-04-08 13:37

      When did praying become idiosyncratic? Billion of people around the world pray everyday, are they also idiots? You idiot!

      Fidel - 2012-04-08 13:39

      @Sam Really, look the CIA UN development indexes and see Chavez has affected the lives of Venezuelans. It would be a lot easier to analyse Chavez objectively if there wasn't all this Neo-Con disinformation being dumped by western MSM.

      mlucejko - 2012-04-08 14:04

      Why do people like 'Chavez' keep asking God for favours ?? Hasn't God given enough ??

  • Silvia - 2012-04-07 23:27

    Dead man walking.

  • Frank - 2012-04-07 23:28

    I'll pray for you Mr Chavez. You may, (like all of us) have your fair share of short comings but after all youre only human being and youre not perfect. God teaches us not to Judge others as he is the only one who has that authority.

  • Mandu - 2012-04-08 01:17

    Just take your medication and stop wasting time with prayer. I hope you will make a full recovery.

      Ian - 2012-04-08 07:13

      spoken like a real communist, except if you were a real commie you wouldnt be playing on the internet, now go get in line for your potatoes, i guess that makes you like your buddies in cosatu, money loving play play commies, BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA HA HA LMFAO

      Mandu - 2012-04-08 09:53

      Well done! You deserve a cookie

  • Smell - 2012-04-08 03:21

    A grandiose twat that has been ruining his country's economy for over a decade. A poorly educated, not-so-smart anti-democratic bully who thought he knew better than the smart and well-educated in his country. And a big mouthed populist who beat up on the USA to divert attention away from his failings - like that odious Robert Mugabe blaming Britain for Zimbabwe's hunger when he was the fool chasing the agricultural specialists (farmers) off their land. Always easier for losers to blame an outside entity for their misery. I think Fidel Castro was perhaps the one socialist leader who actually benefitted his citizens. Chavez, like Mugabe and Pol Pot, has been a dismal failure. I do not wish him well.

      Smell - 2012-04-08 07:48

      Respectfully, I think people is way to hard on Mr. Jacob Zuma. He is wiser than many people realize. No our version of Chavez is Mr. Malema, who is both poorly educated and unwise. He plays to the ignorance of the masses blaming everything on the fictitious enemy, the "evil boere/colonists/imperialists/". The big problem with that construct is that if someone like him succeeds in chasing the fictitious enemy away, that things will be much worse for the poor and everyone else. Check out the Haitian experience after more than a hundred years of independence - the poorest and most miserable country in the West.

      AnthonyfromAfrica - 2012-04-08 10:28

      Smell, So true what you say about Fidel Castro, except, not ,perhaps, but ,for sure, the only socialist leader who has benefitted his citizens. Controversial; for sure ! A dictator, who has imprisoned opposition members,and who is resposible that many fled their own country. But than, he is a leader who stuck to his socialist believes, did not enrich himself, nor his family, has never had snipers on roof tops, murdering his opposition, and has been responsible for Cuba's main export; doctors and engineers !! He is my 'secret, hero !!

      Michael - 2012-04-08 10:43

      Difficult decision so So God turned to the little group gathered at the bar, JFK, Lyndon B.J, Richard N, Abraham L and a couple of others and said,"So, what do you think fellas, another chance or what..." ;) (for the record - no blasphemy intended)

      Fidel - 2012-04-08 13:45

      @Smell Anti-democratic? And if Chavez doesn't think democracy is a good thing, why does he keep holding elections and abiding by the results? Yes, he's seeking the right to stand indefinitely. It's the same right enjoyed by any British politician who, as long as they remain the leader of their party, and as long as they continue to win elections, can stay in prime ministerial office until the day they die. And in election after election the Venezuelans have voted for Chavez in overwhelming numbers. You have got to rethink this and stop the propaganda, it is so ludicrously full of holes it would be laughable if it werent so tragic. Obviously this is what is being fed to your simple brain. Drivel, mindless drivel, from start to finish.

      Smell - 2012-04-08 15:58

      Infidel, in real democracies there are some limitations on what incumbent leaders can do to ensure that they win every election. In sham democracies the outcomes are always predetermined, like in Venezuela and Zimbabwe. And explain why socialist countries headed by populist thugs are generally very backwards. That is everyone poor to the same degree.

      Fidel - 2012-04-08 16:55

      Nothing is good for everyone. As a negotiated human construction, democracy is no panacea. It is a system made within the context of history and the diversity of human identities. It is not one institutional form, or a single set of processes. There are, have been, and can be as many forms of democracy as people need to deliver the reality of human dignity and well-being to all. Chavez has been able to bring a modicum of dignity and well-being to a majority of Venezuelans who never experienced this prior to his taking office. The most undemocratic thing is to assume you have the complete answer and insist everyone else does democracy your way. Scandinavian countries are socialist democracies and have been successful. The reasons are many to go into here for fear of monopolising the thread. I suggest that instead you do a little reading yourself rather then resorting to knee-jerk replies that have very little traction except with those whose prejudices colour their reasoning.

      Smell - 2012-04-08 18:47

      Explain why socialist East Germany had to build the Berlin Wall to keep its citizens from fleeing to the "evil" capitalistic West Germany. Explain why China's economy and living standards took off like a rocket since the "Communist Party" in essence ditched socialism and embraced capitalism. I have no problems with the Scandinavian model as long as it remains affordable. Unfortunately socialism removes the incentive for many to work hard and the end result is a country that spends more than it takes in - the social democratic model of Greece omes to mind, another example that you chose not to mention. You are evidently a rabid ideologue and the World's saving grace is that people like you are not in the majority. Most of us humans seem to prefer a responsible capitalist system (not like the recent system in the USA) with a reasonable social safety net, not the failed ideologies of socialism and communism. However, arguing with you is like arguing with a crazed religious nut, which is in essence what a crazed ideologue is. Again, check your thumbs up ratio for a reality check of where your views fit in on the human bell curve.

      Fidel - 2012-04-09 04:53

      Africans are socialist by nature. The pathological mindset (Caucasian) of exploiting men and nature for profit is foreign to Africans, and explains why we as Africans in the main have never embraced Capitalism. A "responsible" Capitalist system is a misnomer. A Capitalist imperative is to exploit for gain. You will never understand this concept because you have been raised in a pathological environment and background (Europe and Caucasian originally) and as such exploitation of men comes natural to you. You really have no idea of the African natural psyche with regards to exploitation and I don't expect a psychopath to understand.

      Smell - 2012-04-09 09:14

      Fidel I find your first paragraph racist. I thought Marx and Engels were Caucasian . And Mao Tse Tung was not African either. Idiots apparently come in all colours. And I note you did not venture to answer my questions about Germany and China.. How come the "pathological" West is able to feed its own population and Africa needs constant help while its hungry population is skyrocketing. Yes, skyrocketing to what end? And how come the "psychopathic" West douses Africa with aid like food and medicine? Anyway, you failed to answer my simple questions. And I do care for Africa and Africans, very much. However, although attractive to the lazy and less gifted, Black and White, Socialism is not the way to success. It is the way to hunger.

      AnthonyfromAfrica - 2012-04-09 09:36

      Fidel, Every single time, you don't have an answer, you become insulting!! It is soo pathetic and childish !! Not even to yourself, your 'high street language' makes any sense!! But you seem to be having fun, being the teacher to the dumb masses. Go for it !!

  • Muhammad - 2012-04-08 06:47

    \ When you came in thos world, you were crying while all those around u were smiling, so live your life in such a manner that when u leave, you are smiling and those around u r crying\ Islamic poet

  • Ian - 2012-04-08 06:54

    but chavez you and your buddy fatkid are dictator communists, God only exists when you need help, scum like you can forget about God, He has no interest in you, however there is is a very special place in hell for rubbish like you and all your dictator murdering buddies. BURN IN HELL

      Fidel - 2012-04-08 13:48

      Repeating the word "dictatorship" like a mantra doesn't make it so. Unfortunately paper never refuses ink.

      Smell - 2012-04-08 16:07

      And repetitively writing garbage certainly does not make it otherwise. Like a psychotic person thinking he has a "special insight" which the rest of the world cannot see. Like Fidel.

      Smell - 2012-04-08 16:45

      Fidel your usual thumbs down rating should clue you in :)

      Fidel - 2012-04-08 17:24

      You're pretty good at pulling out some porkies to suit whatever argument you're trying to make. How edifying to get yet another ad hominem response with nothing about the issues involved or the points I raised. To turn comments into a popularity contest turns News24 into a high school. This is not about groupthink, but rather about intelligent dialogue. It is ideas and not numbers or votes that count. Constantly counting the number of downvotes suggests to me issues of low self-esteem. The really odd part about this is that the low self-esteem leads to behaviours that simply reinforce the low sense of self-worth. Away with you!

      Smell - 2012-04-08 18:55

      No, I am still here, pragmatism and all. If your hard-core socialist views are so advanced, how come the most advanced countries in the world shun them. I get it, you are smarter than the smartest people in the World, Fidel!

      Smell - 2012-04-08 19:01

      One more thing - you do not have to "count" all your thumbs down - fortunately the News24 software does that for you. You can be sure that a software developer developed this with hard work, incentified by the promise of a monetary reward - capitalism at work!

  • Crracker - 2012-04-08 09:31

    Chavez really believes he carries the destiny of "his" so-called people and country on his shoulders. Or is he even trying to lie to his god by only pretending how important "his" country and people find him? One would have thought that if he was on the right road all along god would have protected him and kept him well and out of harms' way to fulfill his destined work. But NO. His god turns on him and he now tries to manipulate his god back to the Chavez ways and of course in the process garner some sympathy support among the people for himself and his party. Whichever way it is looked at, he is a loser. A bad loser, and what's more, a lot of people will actually thank god for ridding this world of a little self-serving, trouble-making and selfish dictator who thought he had the right (divine?) to insult and threaten others whenever he felt like it. Maybe he knows he is in big trouble in the celestial sphere. So he tries to BS his god so he can stay on a bit longer under the pretext that his nation and country needs him. As if god can't produce more agreeable personalities to guide Chavez's self-imagined fiefdom to better things. No need for the continued presence of the vulgar and presumptuous Chavez.

      Fidel - 2012-04-08 13:51

      A typical case of how commentors use distorted arguments for propaganda purposes to "prove" what they want to believe. How is Chavez a dictator or loser?

      AnthonyfromAfrica - 2012-04-08 14:02

      ""use distorted arguments for propaganda purposes"" Excuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuse me !!!!!!

      Fidel - 2012-04-08 14:06

      You've never been able counter any of my arguments with anything resembling fact or logic, but instead you always throw porkies to hide that.

      Crracker - 2012-04-08 14:47

      @ Fidel It does occasionally happen that some of us do read what is taking place in the countries ruled by the likes of the leaders you seem to admire. It includes articles and opinions by the indigenous people of those countries too. Venezuela is taking on the classic configuration of a bread basket case. You admire Fidel Castro and brother? Even the Pope thinks their country is not free. You are not allowed to form alternative political parties in Cuba. Did you know it? Only a handful are rich in Cuba. The rest are dirt poor. Sanctions the cause? Also the cause for the well-off elite? Anyway, the fact remains that it seems that even a higher power deems it a risk to allow Chavez to continue with his destruction. As for being the ultimate loser, the facts in the article above speak for themselves.

      Fidel - 2012-04-08 15:38

      I admire how you've managed to wedge Cuba in this debate so as to avoid my direct question about Venezuela or Chavez being a dictator/ship. Brilliant! Care to elaborate on the destruction that Chavez has caused and I'll show you the improvements he has brought to that country. Happy Googling!

      Smell - 2012-04-08 16:13

      I guess if you only take the "Socialist Weekly" seriously and distrust publications like the Economist you can come to unique conclusions totally supportive of people like Porky Chavez and Mad Bob Mugabe. Beauty is indeed in the eyes of the beer holder.

      Fidel - 2012-04-08 16:44

      Obviously one has to conform to a certain stereotype in order to post on this site, so here it goes. It's not accidental I find the information and sources I provide here, I have to know what I want to show you before I can search and find a verifiable source I use to back it. And no Smelly, I'm not going to tell you where or link the Venezuelan Development Index, do your own work and lets see how dedicated you actually are to finding the truth since you claim to speak on its name.

      AnthonyfromAfrica - 2012-04-08 17:59

      Fidel, ""You've never been able counter any of my arguments with anything resembling fact or logic"" Well, lets just take , ONE argument; When you say , that the West should abruptly stop any aid to Africa !! Knowing that this will lead to the suffering and deaths, OF ADDITIONAL MILLIONS OF AFRICANS, those thoughts are not only; SELFISH ,IGNORANT, DUMB, STUPID,and PATHETIC , it shows you HATE the people of Africa. Now , this is not only LOGIC, it's a FACT !!! To use some of your 'high street words; " The masturbation by some elite half baked pseudo intellectuals is plain SICKENING"

  • Pakes - 2012-04-09 06:24

    Lord have mercy unto him.

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