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Gaza conflict: More die in Israeli strikes

2012-11-19 10:01

Gaza City - Israeli air strikes across the Gaza Strip killed 10 people early on Monday, raising the Palestinian death toll to 87 as Israel's relentless air campaign entered its sixth day.

The latest to die were Ibrahim al-Astal and Obama al-Astal, two farmers who were killed in a strike in Qarara, east of Khan Yunis in the southern Gaza Strip, the Hamas-run enclave.

Shortly before that, three people were killed in a strike on a car in Deir al-Balah in central Gaza, all of them from the same family: Amir Bashir, Tamal Bashir and Salah Bashir, Qudra said.

In Gaza City, two women and a child were among four killed in a strike on the Zeitun neighbourhood - Nisma Abu Zorr, aged 23, Mohammed Abu Zorr, aged 5, Saha Abu Zorr, aged 20 and Ahid al-Qatati aged 35.

And medics said another man had been found dead in the northern town of Beit Lahiya, naming him as Abdel Rahman al-Atar, a 50-year-old farmer.

Comments
  • kenpeg.dawson - 2012-11-19 10:17

    A never ending story.

      squeegee.pilot - 2012-11-19 10:48

      I notice that not one word was said about the peaceful rockets that the Palestinians are sending over into Israel. One sided story again...

      gianni.blayse - 2012-11-19 12:30

      SQUEEgee if you honestly think the media outlets of the world are on the side of the palestinans and are anti- israel then you have no concept of reality. every news outlet besides possibly al jazeera is pro-israel, they continously emphasize the rocket fire into israel and view hamas as exploitative terrorists. its only when 10 times the amount of palestinian civillians die that they begin to make note of the palestinian casualties. get your head out hte clouds, corporate media always sides with america and israel, ever heard the expression that its the victors who write the history books?? it certainly isnt the palestians story who is being heard enough

      neutedop.opinie - 2012-11-19 12:39

      Gianni, do you aim to show us daily that you know nothing of the conflict? Or anyhing else for that matter? Al Jazeera and News24 is in a partnership. Yes the Qatar news agency. So maybe you have no concept of reality.....like you want to tell Squeeguu he does not have. Please, and once again, if you want to state facts, at least let them be true. And once again, stop shooting rockets, and Israel will stop!

      gianni.blayse - 2012-11-19 12:53

      neuroticface, you cant even speak english, why are you commenting here. do you work for the idf, are you paid to come spit your lies on media platforms? can you honestly say that israel is the victim? have you no conscience for the children that are dying every day? israelis themselves, those not blinded by brainwashing, will tell you that the idf are bullies, that so many of their soldiers have so much hate, and that they dont appreciate american and diaspora religious jews using their money and influence to run israel, while it will be israelis who will suffer the consequences in the long run. all news comes from the same source, from the source of power. if it didnt, i can guarantee you no one in their right mind would support israel. israel must exist, but it must leave the territories and give palestinians their own state and freedom, and israel must stop being run by conservative psycho american jews like netanyahu

      fred.fraser.12 - 2012-11-19 15:00

      Israel was created in 1948 from 52% of the land formerly occupied by the Jewish and Palestinian people, and Palestine 43%. Most of the Israeli territory was the Negev Desert. Jerusalem fell into neither territory. Palestinians with their unelected, self-serving neighbors declared war on Israel the very next day. In the 1960's they even invaded Israel twice. Full military invasions. The result: Israel survived and pushed them back, gaining territory in the process. This is the origin of what you wrongly call "stealing land". There have been almost daily attacks by Palestinians, incited by their self-serving unelected backers. Palestinians even teach their children at Kindergarten to attack Israel, rather than be peaceful. Children. Kindergarten. From day one, and even today it's wage war on Israel. Israel defends herself. Yes sometimes going too far, which is unacceptable, but self-defense nonetheless. All that needs to happen is for Palestinians to choose peace side by side with Israel. This is more likely going forward now because the unelected dictators are being removed from power by their people, one by one. They will no longer use the Palestinians for their own internal political ploys.

  • neutedop.opinie - 2012-11-19 10:22

    And I guess News24 left out the part where the men in the car was militants......therefore it sounds once again like Israel is just bombing random people (uhmmmm, that is anyway what Hamas intend to do....with their 500+ rockets).

      mzakes.matabata - 2012-11-19 10:35

      what about the child and the woman? also hardened terrorist? Israeli's are killers

      neutedop.opinie - 2012-11-19 10:52

      Nope, that is the sad part, and as much as I feel for them, what would have happened if Israel did not spend billions to guard their cities from the 500+ rockets? Then their would have been hundreds of thousands innocent people killed.

      filletman.filletman - 2012-11-19 11:08

      @mzakes ok, so in other words the black gang of robbers that killed that man in front of his wife and child in Muldersdrift should cause me to say :"blacks are killers"? I hope that you arent one because contrary to what racists like you proclaim in these comment columns, there are millions of black and white South Africans working togther peacefully for a living every day.

      moses.mabhida.52 - 2012-11-19 11:30

      I don't buy the news24 aljazeera sponsored propaganda for one second. there are over a billion Muslims - news sites target them for advertising and thus are mostly anti Israel. but we (the free world) know the truth.

      nosiphom.mazibuko - 2012-11-19 11:51

      At any rate Neutedop, for the poor palestinians, its just the same. Either their are killed by bombing or they are killed by the impact of the barbaric blockade. Its enthnic cleansing, by a babaric regime which has built a prison for refugees from Erithrea. Roundoing up African immigrants, jailing them and sending them to their death in Erithrea. Chant down Tel Aviv - boycott Israeli prodiucts! Viva Palestine - one day they will also be free.

      neutedop.opinie - 2012-11-19 12:06

      Nosi - which Israeli products do you use, that you want to boycott???????

      gianni.blayse - 2012-11-19 12:32

      neurotic top - 3 isreali civilians versus about 70 palestian civilians????ag shame...poor israel the victims once again. the idf are bullies, the most advanced army in the world versus poor, disenfranchised people struggling for some identity and some bladdy basic human rights. f@#$ zionism!!

      nosiphom.mazibuko - 2012-11-19 12:33

      ctually, I use none. If its written "made in Israel" I do not buy it - even if its the best rpoduct in the world. Its bloody. Every cent you spend on a Israeli product is used to kill children of Gaza!

      mzakes.matabata - 2012-11-19 12:58

      http://edition.cnn.com/video/?hpt=hp_c1#/video/world/2012/11/19/damon-israel-air-strike.cnn

      fred.fraser.12 - 2012-11-19 15:00

      Israel was created in 1948 from 52% of the land formerly occupied by the Jewish and Palestinian people, and Palestine 43%. Most of the Israeli territory was the Negev Desert. Jerusalem fell into neither territory. Palestinians with their unelected, self-serving neighbors declared war on Israel the very next day. In the 1960's they even invaded Israel twice. Full military invasions. The result: Israel survived and pushed them back, gaining territory in the process. This is the origin of what you wrongly call "stealing land". There have been almost daily attacks by Palestinians, incited by their self-serving unelected backers. Palestinians even teach their children at Kindergarten to attack Israel, rather than be peaceful. Children. Kindergarten. From day one, and even today it's wage war on Israel. Israel defends herself. Yes sometimes going too far, which is unacceptable, but self-defense nonetheless. All that needs to happen is for Palestinians to choose peace side by side with Israel. This is more likely going forward now because the unelected dictators are being removed from power by their people, one by one. They will no longer use the Palestinians for their own internal political ploys.

      fred.fraser.12 - 2012-11-19 15:00

      Two groups of people resented and opposed the creation of an Israeli homeland for the Jewish people after the horrors of World War II, notwithstanding that the amount of land was a tiny, minuscule slither relative to their vast lands, and Jewish people had inhabited that land for millennia. Guess which groups that was, and is. Violent Muslims and White Supremacists.

      moses.mabhida.52 - 2012-11-19 15:29

      mazibuko Israel is not China, they don’t make small plastic products. What you should do: Please stop using your computer - there is more Israeli hitch in there then there are South Africans in London. Some of the Zionist inventions you are supporting: IBM, Apple, Microsoft, Intel, Amdocs, Nokia, BlackBerry, Facebook, Google, Youtube; all of these Zionist entities have large research and development centres in Israel employing tens of thousand of Israelis. I would tell you about Israeli things in Telkom, Pn'P, Woollies, Vodacom, CellC, MTN, Checkers, Standard Bank, Investec, Discovery, Sanlam, Liberty Life, Blue Label, FNB, Nedbank; but It will take too long to list what Israeli advanced technology these companies use but they spread from Agriculture, biogenetics, online security, billing systems etc etc... Lastly and most importantly, if you dare get sick make absolutely sure you stay away from any hospital in South Africa because you will be making more money for Israel than America makes from CokaCola.

  • doberman.love.1 - 2012-11-19 10:28

    Watch this to know the truth of Palestine Vrs Israel. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63hTOaRu7h4

      john.bucknall.1 - 2012-11-19 11:24

      Here is another, to prove the ownership of Jerusalem from the Koran, it's no wonder the Muslims have made repeated requests to YouTube to have it removed: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&v=xU9CauJP4Pg&NR=1

      nazeem.majiet.7 - 2012-11-19 11:59

      Here is another article of a christian preacher perspective on the Middle East Strife effectively arguing that Jews have no legitmate right to Isreal. www.truthtellers.org/israel/mideaststrife.html

      moses.mabhida.52 - 2012-11-19 12:37

      Mr Cyber... forget youtube, why don’t you explain to me right now what your friends in Gaza are doing to Christians? I will tell you something, What Christians face in Gaza, Egypt, Iraq, Iran and Saudi is far worse then apartheid that we had here... Israel on the other hand opens its doors to Christians, which is why Israel is the ONLY place in the Middle East that the Christian population is increasing!! so you can take you Muslim propaganda and shove it.

  • russell.l.tait - 2012-11-19 10:33

    Good thing.....i love it.

  • russell.l.tait - 2012-11-19 10:40

    Why does palastine not produce their own secure stable country, maybe they should should grow flower farms and Orange farms like Israel.But they cant you see.....its not in them they just want what Israel has....similiar to SA.

      mzakes.matabata - 2012-11-19 10:57

      They have the US under-writing all their war efforts, pathetic if you ask me and who is occupying land that does not belong to them? I totally understand why Obama is trying very hard to break that umbilical cord.

      Desilusionada - 2012-11-19 11:31

      @mzakes.matabata You are making lots of comments leavin an impression that you have superior knowledge of the ME. Where in Gaza is this Israeli occupied land that does not belong to them? This is the subject of this thread is it it not? The conflict in Gaza? I'd like to look it up on Google. Another thing I have wondered about. Why did Israel put up a fence at the Gaza border? Is that to prevent Israelis from crossing from the occupied Gaza, back into Israel, their home country? Your intellectual and factual response would really be appreciated.....

      nosiphom.mazibuko - 2012-11-19 12:13

      Their land was taken buy the bullies!

      doberman.love.1 - 2012-11-19 12:25

      nosiphom their land was not taken buy anyone... that land belonged to the jewish people 2000 years before the birth of Islam... don’t be blind

      mzakes.matabata - 2012-11-19 12:33

      @Desilusionada, at no time have i proclaimed to be an expert or someone with an advanced knowledge of middle eastern affairs. However Did the IDF not withdraw troops and re-allocated settlers out of the Gaza strip, so why are they are still controlling the airspace and the movement of people in and out of Gaza is that not occupation? What about East Jerusalem.

      gianni.blayse - 2012-11-19 12:41

      russell go read a book. they just want what israel has? freedom of movement, basic human rights, and not to be bullied by the most superior army in the world? i would say they are entitled to have what israel has

      fred.fraser.12 - 2012-11-19 15:02

      Gianni they are. THEY must create it though by changing their decision to wipe out Israel at all costs. Israel was created in 1948 from 52% of the land formerly occupied by the Jewish and Palestinian people, and Palestine 43%. Most of the Israeli territory was the Negev Desert. Jerusalem fell into neither territory. Palestinians with their unelected, self-serving neighbors declared war on Israel the very next day. In the 1960's they even invaded Israel twice. Full military invasions. The result: Israel survived and pushed them back, gaining territory in the process. This is the origin of what you wrongly call "stealing land". There have been almost daily attacks by Palestinians, incited by their self-serving unelected backers. Palestinians even teach their children at Kindergarten to attack Israel, rather than be peaceful. Children. Kindergarten. From day one, and even today it's wage war on Israel. Israel defends herself. Yes sometimes going too far, which is unacceptable, but self-defense nonetheless. All that needs to happen is for Palestinians to choose peace side by side with Israel. This is more likely going forward now because the unelected dictators are being removed from power by their people, one by one. They will no longer use the Palestinians for their own internal political ploys.

      Desilusionada - 2012-11-19 16:29

      @mzakes.matabata They are still "controlling" the airspace, because Hamas cannot or does not want to hear. They should not shoot rockets at Israel. The movement of people in and out of Gaza on the Egyptian border is now controlled by Israel? The Israeli/Gaza border is controlled like any border of SA/ Swaziland or Lesotho or Namibia. Or is Israel suddenly a non-sovereign state that should rejoice every time a rocket is shot at school children?.....

  • christina.setloboko - 2012-11-19 10:42

    this must stop asap, cause I'm planning to visit Israel next year.

      squeegee.pilot - 2012-11-19 10:49

      That is probably the most selfish comment of the year. People are DYING there and you are worried about your trip. Get a life woman.

      john.bucknall.1 - 2012-11-19 12:00

      I hope you are not going to mule drugs hey? The Israeli's just shoot mules on sight.LOL What a stupid selfish remark, chop.

      nosiphom.mazibuko - 2012-11-19 12:16

      Moses, stop it. the people of Gaza deserve to live in peace without an embargo - allowed to export and import stuff. Israel does not want them to live in peace!

      moses.mabhida.52 - 2012-11-19 12:48

      Dear Nosiphom. I am afraid you are buying all the propaganda sold to you by infiltrators in the ANC. Israel is a good place that strives for peace - and when the Arabs vote for a peaceful leadership there will be peace - until that time comes, Israel has every right to defend themselves from savage Hamas. I would advise you to Google “hamas charter and goals” after you read that send me another message and we can talk. Furthermore never forget that the K word comes from Islam and they still use it!

  • russell.l.tait - 2012-11-19 10:44

    The Israeli Tigers are wide awake for their people. Love it.

  • nicrsa - 2012-11-19 10:44

    You people taking sides are just as bad as the Israeli's and the Palestinians. Until both sides are held properly accountable, there will never be a solution. Both are to blame, both are victims and perpetrators.

      doberman.love.1 - 2012-11-19 11:14

      no. Hamas is to balme. Hamas has Israeli and Palestinians blood on their hands. plain and simple

      derek.bredenkamp.3 - 2012-11-19 11:19

      Like the blacks were to blame for apartheid??

      fred.fraser.12 - 2012-11-19 15:04

      It's not about blame. And the Palestinians are playing the victim to garner sympathy from unsuspecting people who don't have the good sense to look deeper.

  • rodney.louis.7 - 2012-11-19 10:48

    the people of Gaza should not tolerate Hamas , They are the instigators who hide behind women and children .. Israel was promised to the Jews by the almighty God .. Lets pray that peace can be found

      nosiphom.mazibuko - 2012-11-19 12:18

      They democratically voted Hamam. Why do you want to chose for them!

      doberman.love.1 - 2012-11-19 12:31

      If they democratically vote for Hamas why do you say they need their land back? Israel gave them Gaza in 2005 and all Israel got in return was rocket fire. The Palestinians could have voted for peace but they voted for Hamas... and now they are sleeping in the bed they made! Mazibuko understand this, Israel wants peace but Hamas want a holy war... voting for a terrorist group is counter productive to democracy.. Hamas is not like the ANC, Hamas wants to kill all the Jews, Hamas doesnt want peace!

      gianni.blayse - 2012-11-19 12:43

      stop regurgitating what you have been fed by the media, you sound like a programmed robot

  • angela.nair.3 - 2012-11-19 10:59

    As always - unstable Arab countries - they will not stop until they drag everyone else into their maelstrom of viciousness and fundamentalism - and using innocent people as shields and puppets to further their extremism. Their world is big enough for all the Arabs - they could turn their territories into a thriving oasis just like Isreal did - but no - they want to kill of a nation with all its people? There will never be peace in the Middle East until they except that not every person in the world is Moslem and not every Moslem is right!

  • nazeem.majiet.7 - 2012-11-19 11:59

    Here is another article of a christian preacher perspective on the Middle East Strife effectively arguing that Jews have no legitmate right to Isreal. www.truthtellers.org/israel/mideaststrife.html

      moses.mabhida.52 - 2012-11-19 12:38

      Mr Cyber... forget youtube, why don’t you explain to me right now what your friends in Gaza are doing to Christians? I will tell you something, What Christians face in Gaza, Egypt, Iraq, Iran and Saudi is far worse then apartheid that we had here... Israel on the other hand opens its doors to Christians, which is why Israel is the ONLY place in the Middle East that the Christian population is increasing!! so you can take you Muslim propaganda and shove it.

      james.keen.944 - 2012-11-19 13:00

      The English truly did screw things up when they handed Palestine to the Jews. As far as im concerned, they have no legitimate right to call it their homeland.(other than the fact that England handed it to them at the expense of the locals)

      fred.fraser.12 - 2012-11-19 19:57

      James, where did most of the events in the Old Testament take place, if not where Israel is today?

  • Mike - 2012-11-19 12:27

    Once again having my comment deleted because I have a different viewpoint. Does 24.com have a large % of Jewish people on their staff?

      moses.mabhida.52 - 2012-11-19 12:43

      Jewish people? how many are there in South Africa, 5? NEWS24 content is sponsored by Aljazeera, just read the headings and look at the photos, this is all Arab propaganda. I will have you know that not only do you face the Christian voice, but the Hindu, Buddhist, women’s rights and gays are all against your intolerant cult.

      gianni.blayse - 2012-11-19 12:56

      moses you are very confused.

      fred.fraser.12 - 2012-11-19 15:05

      You like to play the victim almost as much as the Palestinian Authority does.

  • christina.setloboko - 2012-11-19 12:29

    johnB, NOT Everyone is a drug mule, cumom sit down.

  • james.keen.944 - 2012-11-19 12:57

    The Jews pulling of a Holocaust of their own here, a pity they didn't learn from their more recent past.

  • ModernMetaphysicist - 2012-11-19 13:16

    I've been researching the history of Israel, because the media tends to paint a current picture of confusion. I will publish the article on the history from the very beginning so we can get some insight, the news just drives me crazy, it's taken along time to piece history together to get a non bias picture on why all the hate and war, and as i thought it is way deeper than expected, this is a very serious conflict of time, outcomes seems bleak for the poor innocent woman and children from both sides being killed for many a centuries. At time the history is so difficult to read, the amount of death has been tremendous, very shocking, it saddens me.

  • eugene.ngobeni.7 - 2012-11-19 14:00

    Israel is pushing Palestaine to give birth to another Hitler to eradicate Jews from the face of the planet.I m jst sayin.....

      fred.fraser.12 - 2012-11-19 15:06

      They'll have to drop their pseudo-victimhood to do this.

      ModernMetaphysicist - 2012-11-19 15:18

      Eugene The Jews have been prosecuted against for a very long time, time and time again over the centuries empires and leaders have been trying to destroy them. With Christianity the Roman Empire almost drove the Jewish people to extinction. If i was Jewish I'd be p!ssed to, at everyone for been such haters, something to think about. By no means is Genocide of any kind of ethnic group every ok, it's plain barbaric, it should always be condemned

      ModernMetaphysicist - 2012-11-19 15:20

      Sigmund Freud might have been right when he said that sometimes a cigar is just a cigar, but sometimes a victim is not just a victim

  • bobo.jane.1 - 2012-11-19 14:18

    Jip Terrorists, but as some like to call them "Freedom Fighters" Can be farmers too...They have been warned for how many months and now they want the rest of the world to cry rivers full...They will reap what they sow, if they sow hundreds of rockets they will reap the benefits.

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