Gender bias in Israeli army dangerous

2011-11-14 22:30

Jerusalem - The surge in religiously-motivated discrimination against women in the military could pose a threat to Israel's security, a group of retired major generals warned in a letter on Monday.

The warning, which related to the rising tensions between religious male soldiers and female soldiers, was laid out in a letter signed by 19 major generals addressed to Defence Minister Ehud Barak and Chief of Staff Benny Gantz which was published in Haaretz newspaper.

In the text, the signatories point to a slew of recent events where women soldiers were pushed aside in favour of the religious sensitivities of observant male soldiers.

They also pointed to demands to stop women from training male soldiers and to remove them from mixed fighting units, to several recent instances of gender-separated army celebrations, and moves to prevent women soldiers from singing at events attended by men.

Barak and Gantz must act to "prevent harm being caused to women soldiers... so as to stop the rolling snowball, a snowball which is liable in future to harm the security of the state of Israel and the fundamental values of Israeli society as a whole," it said, without elaborating.

The letter, a rarity coming from such senior and loyal members of the military establishment, was written out of concern "for the image of the Israeli army as the people's army, [in order] to maintain its strength, the security of the state and Israeli society's fundamental democratic values," it said.

The Israeli army has in recent years been increasing efforts to encourage ultra-Orthodox men to enlist, partly through creating special units in which these extremely conservative recruits will not be exposed to female soldiers.

In recent months, gender segregation has become much more prevalent among the national-religious public, which unlike the ultra-Orthodox, will serve in any position in the army.

"We cherish the religious soldiers and respect their rights, but these should be regulated without imposing religious norms or life-styles on the rest of those in their military service," the letter said.

Gantz recently asked the head of the army's personnel directorate to re-examine issues arising from the joint military service of women and religious soldiers, Haaretz said.

The defence ministry had no immediate response to the letter, while the army expressed frustration over its publication "before receiving the due attention of those it was sent to".

  • James - 2011-11-14 23:51

    On certain Bus lines Women are required to sit in the back of the bus. If not they will spit on her and slap her. She must also walk a few steps behind her husband. Then we have the Askenazi and the Sephardic jews, The Askenazi refuse to hire, socialise, marry the former.

      Barry - 2011-11-15 04:08

      Any discrimination based on gender, has to be condemned. As James points out it is prevalent in civilian life as well

      Fred - 2011-11-15 04:15

      @Barry Except if you believe that the bibble is the inerrant word of a god. Then treating woman as inferior is the right and holy thing to do.

      Barry - 2011-11-15 04:59

      @Fred.. So in your opinion, women are inferior to men ?

      Dirk - 2011-11-15 08:26

      Hog, the Bible is very clear. Women must subject themselves to the authority of their husbands, but husbands are commanded to treat their wives with love and respect, and for the ones who wont distort that, the implications are clear. In the surrounding arab/muslim states, women are whipped for driving a car (10 lashes) and acting ( 90lashes) The Israeli women should, for more than one reason, be thankful that they are not arabs.

      Dayaan - 2011-11-15 09:29

      @Dirk Islam teaches men to treat women with respect, their is a whole chapter as what you would call it about women in the Quran. The country you referring to is the darling of the US and what they do is got nothing to do with Sharia but part of the laws of that country. Muslims all over the world condemn these laws since it has got nothing to do with Sharia but part of the perverse attitude of these rulers that the US and Israel love so much. The Saud dynasty and the Bush family are what you can call family friends.

      marazor - 2011-11-15 09:40

      @Fred, go back to your cave... neanderthal!!!

      Dirk - 2011-11-15 10:38

      Dayaan- stop the deception. The 90 lashes for a female actress, was in Iran, certainly not a friend of either the US or Israel. With one or two exceptions, Christians are persecuted and even executed in ALL, repeat ALL islamic states

      Dayaan - 2011-11-15 12:29

      @Dirk you are the one that is decieving and are suffering from severe Islamaphobia you need psychiatric help read what i said "what they do is got nothing to do with Sharia but part of the laws of that country. Muslims all over the world condemn these laws since it has got nothing to do with Sharia but part of the perverse attitude of these rulers" and also "Islam teaches men to treat women with respect, their is a whole chapter as what you would call it about women in the Quran." Islam teaches Muslims to respect other religions get to know Islam before condemning Islam. Stop believing what media wants you to believe make an effort to do some research you will find out that what you have been taught to believe about Muslims are totally false. Mohammed(Peace Be Upon Him) himself after entertaining a group of Christians that visited him when realizing it is their time to pray offered the use of the Mosque to them. We are taught to respect the people of the book referring to those to whom the scriptures were given in return we would also like to be respected. If the law of the country tells you not to proselytize to certain individuals are you going to persist in doing so even when you know you are going to receive punishment.

      Martin - 2011-11-15 13:32

      "I will expel the Jews and Christians from the Arabian Peninsula and will not leave any but Muslim." (Sahih Muslim 4366) Dayaan, your Mohammed did not sound very tolerant by making such an utterance.

      Dayaan - 2011-11-15 13:54

      @Martin if you do want to quote then quote in context: "It has been narrated on the authority of Ibn Umar that the Jews of Banu Nadir and Banu Quraizi fought against the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) who expelled Banu Nadir, and allowed Quraiza to stay on, and granted favour to them until they too fought against him Then he killed their men, and distributed their women, children and properties among the Muslims, except that some of them had joined the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) who granted them security. They embraced Islam. The Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) turned out all the Jews of Medlina. Banu Qainuqa' (the tribe of 'Abdullah b. Salim) and the Jews of Banu Haritha and every other Jew who was in Medina."

      Dirk - 2011-11-15 14:15

      The odd one may condemn these practices, but by and large they do ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.So, dont come with that little story. Christians are being killed daily in Muslim countries and what I see, is SILENCE!!!

      Dirk - 2011-11-15 14:18

      Martin- They hate the FACTS. Now they will accuse you of some phobia

      Dayaan - 2011-11-15 14:26

      @Dirk honestly tell me when does the media ever portray Muslims in a good view, the media is biased and you swallow it all up. Even if i take a megaphone into Times Square and shout it out loud that Muslims condemn these things then the media would headline it as "Crazy Muslim Rants And Raves In Times Square" CATCH A WAKE UP MUSLIMS ARE NOT ALL AS WHAT THE MEDIA PORTRAYS THEM. You should start getting to know some Muslims around you and get out of the verkrampte hole that you are in apartheid is outlawed in this country.

      Dayaan - 2011-11-15 14:32

      @Dirk you are forgetting all the Muslims that are being killed daily by Zionists and the Imperialistic US. And you are the one that continuously call people Anti-Semitic when showing up the mistakes that Zionists are making, you are the one that is into name calling or are you glossing it all over

      Martin - 2011-11-15 14:52

      Dayaan, I'm not saying all Muslims are like that. That would be to generalise and I hate generalisations myself. However, respecting you as a person doesn't mean I have to agree with you about everything.

      Adam - 2011-11-15 15:59

      james. my friend is a sephardic jew married to an ashkanazi woman. ure an idiot. more arab propoganda

      Barry - 2011-11-15 17:16

      Don't worry people. Adam thinks everyone is an idiot.

      Barry - 2011-11-15 17:30

      @Dirk. Now that you have hopefully finished your normal religious rant. Which countries are one or two countries where Christians are not persecuted ? Just more my information, as you seem to know everything about everything.

  • Adam - 2011-11-15 15:59

    im so glad there is some islamic enlightenment going around to make us all a little bit cleverer. why dont we look at the places islamic knowledge is taught and see how society shows it self there. nigeria somoali pakistan syria yemen what about some groups that use this brilliant form pr way of life to get their mesages accross. hamas hizbolla Boko Haram al-quaeda islamic-jihad i am defiantly leaviong out plentyyyyy nopw why dont you all reply to me and give islamic inspired groups who bring good into the world. im not expecting a very long list

      Martin - 2011-11-15 16:26

      You may add Al-Shabaab to that second list of yours.

      Barry - 2011-11-15 17:15

      @adam. For your first list. I have been to Nigeria and Paksitan. What would like to know ? For your second list add the Israeli Zionists

      Dayaan - 2011-11-15 20:39

      @Adam To your 2nd group add JDL Jewish Defence League described by FBI as right wing terrorist group. Also Kach and Kahane even the Israeli gov. says they are terrorists. Also add Cushim Ivrim. Also Chabad Lubavitch. Also Elon Moreh. I am definetily leaving out plenty. Then for your groups that are doing good: SANZAF Gift of the Givers Mustadifin Nakhlistan Zaman International Zakat Foundation Mohammed Bin Rashad al-Maktoum Charity Islamic Relief Muslim Hands Helping Hand For Relief BRAC ISNA Al-Khidmat Foundation Edhi Foundation These are only a few that the US support i have left off many that can still be added

  • Barry - 2011-11-15 19:42

    Can we agree that a lot of Israeli men are zealots, racist, totally anti female. A very radical lot. Very similar to their Arab brothers ?

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