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Hollande: Anti-Semitism, anti-Muslim acts threaten France

2015-02-17 17:16

Sarre-Union - French President Francois Hollande says the rise of acts against Jews and Muslims threatens the country's very foundations.

Hollande spoke on Tuesday in Sarre-Union, where 250 Jewish graves were desecrated over the weekend. Hollande noted anti-Semitism and acts against Muslims are both on the rise in France, notably after the attacks last month in Paris that left 20 people dead, including the three gunmen.

The president called on French Jews to remain in France and not follow the Israeli prime minister's call for a mass immigration of European Jews.

Five local teenagers have been detained in the cemetery desecration in eastern France. Hollande said anti-Semitic acts doubled in 2014 compared with 2013, and acts against Muslims in just the month after the attacks totalled the same for the entire previous year.

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  • Raymon McNelly - 2015-02-17 17:37

    The claim that "Acts against Muslims is on the rise" is a deception. People shunning Islam and followers of Islam (called Muslims) do so because of recent events perpetrated by Muslims against non-Muslims in France and other places in the world. People are getting sick and tired of Muslims raping women in 'Sharia controlled' suburbs. People are getting sick and tired of seeing the death and destruction left in the wake of Muslims all over the world. It is in fact a small wonder that people are not "acting out" more against Muslims as it is. One can only take so much BS.. Anti-Semitism is on the rise BECAUSE of the rising Muslim population in Europe but no-one want's to admit it because it's not PC!

      Raymon McNelly - 2015-02-17 17:45

      Theotherview, The Jews didn't invent Islam. Islam has a closer resemblance to Roman Catholicism than to Judaism. Jews are the common enemy of Roman Catholicism and Islam.

      Taz Yacoob - 2015-02-17 18:18

      Hi Ramon Thank you for highlighting the scourge that is Muslims in the world. The world definitely needs people like you not mention the terrorists and extremists whose actions are meant to get the exact same response out of people. So well done again on playing into the hands of extremists and painting 1.6 billion Muslims in the same light. Please can you give me the names of suburbs that under Sharia law rape women as I need to ensure that I stay away frm these places on my numerous trips to Europe! Reminds me of the Fox Network "terrorism expert" who claimed Birmingham was under Sharia law but had to back track very quickly. For my safety and that of my family's as well as friends I thank you for your very open minded thinking. Please give me the names of the suburbs as it will come in very handy!

      Taz Yacoob - 2015-02-17 18:35

      Raymon Thank you so much for highlighting the scourge that is Muslims in the world. Your objective view and refreshing outlook which effectively paints 1.7 billion Muslims around the world with the same brush is definitely a new concept not experienced before. Allow me to also congratulate you on making statements that effectively play directly into the hands of despicable terrorists and extremists by marginalising an entire nation and faith. I especially enjoyed your comment about it being a wonder that attacks on Muslims dnt happen more often. Check out the definition of extremist as I'm pretty sure statements like these are within that definition. Quite ironic when you think of it. Also please provide me with a list of suburbs where Shariah Law permits the rape of women so that I can avoid these at all costs during my frequent travels to Europe. Again this will be of great help. The world is definitely a better place with people such as yourself looking out for the best interest of the rest of the world. As Salaam Wu Alaikum. P.S. Before you think that I am declaring war on you please note that this actually means Peace be upon you.

      Rashid Kara - 2015-02-17 18:50

      @raymon are you ignoring me, I thought we were now on something new, let me now?? as for the wrong view, this old fart is sick of boredom, and concocts all this hilarious rubbish!!!

      Taz Yacoob - 2015-02-17 20:14

      Raymon I noticed that you called me a mamparra as well as someone who is in denial on another article. If I may ask what gives you the right to pass judgement on me on a personal level without having even met me? Could it be jus be cos I am Muslim?

      Raymon Mcnelly - 2015-02-17 20:30

      Taz Yacoob, Hi there. I know I don't know you but I usually form an oppinion about someone on N24 based on their comments. Me calling you a mamparra is based on your attempts to cast a murderer of three people who happend to be Muslim into a religious light when you full-well know that the perpetrator's motive was not religious. Mamparras will say that someone killing people in a shopping mall and shouting allahu akbar is not religiously motivated but someone killing three muslims because of a parking dispute is. Hence, mamparra.

      Raymon Mcnelly - 2015-02-17 20:44

      Rashid Kara, I am looking forward to your response to the questions I have posted a few weeks ago. Do you want me to sent those questions to you again via email?

      Rashid Kara - 2015-02-17 20:57

      @Raymon, I have send you my e-mail address via your FB page , and waiting on you to respond and give me yours, I have all your questions and answers READY for you!!!

      Taz Yacoob - 2015-02-17 21:29

      Raymon Your response to me in terms of not thinking that all Muslims are evil is very different to your initial message posted on this forum. I am more than happy to discuss Islam and me being a Muslim and what the misconceptions are. I will not debate but discuss as there is a fundamental diff between the 2. I will not personally attack you and expect the same courtesy in return. I would like to know why all the hatred directed at Muslims? Is it based on the actions of a percentage of so called Muslims (I am not one to judge but they cannot call themselves this) why is there a need to attack a religion and entire faith just be cos some mad man proclaimed God Is Great in Arabic? Or that some group claiming to carry out atrocities in the name of Islam? I am not here to argue, drop insults or push an agenda. I merely want to understand different perspectives and also have my perspective heard. Happy to discuss Islam with you of u do so in a civil manner.

      Raymon Mcnelly - 2015-02-17 21:53

      Taz Yacoob, Ok, let me start by explining my first comment in this article. My assertion is that the media and government leaders such as Hollande is delliberately sidestepping the real issues and rather deceptively try to portray the rise in anti-Semitism having the same cause as anti-Islamism. My point is that there is a direct link between the rise in Anti-Semitism and the Muslim population. This is to say, the higher the number of Muslims in a country/area/suberb, the higer the anti-Semitism in said country/area/suberb. I would go as far as saying that eventhough anti-Semitism exsists without any Muslims in the population, that theres a direct correlation in the increase of anti-Semitism with an increase in Muslim population. However, the rise in anti-Islamism is a direct result of the attrocities commited by Muslims in the name of Islam. That is to say, Muslims killing people just because they are Christian, for example, like reported this week. Basically, people are getting fed-up with Muslims in general. My surprise is that people are not more anti-Islamic that is actually observed. I'm sure that cars would be burning in France's streets if 20 Muslims where killed and video recorded by non-Muslims (wherer Christians or Jews did it or not). Do you see why people are fed up with Muslims? Cartoons could spark a killing spree, so why should people not develope a distain for Islam?

      Raymon Mcnelly - 2015-02-17 21:54

      Rasheed, Ok, my bad. Ii will send you a quick email.

  • Darren Marcus - 2015-02-17 18:25

    Strange one group gets killed by cowards daily world wide and the other group gets its feelings hurt, which ends up with them killing more innocent people ! Stop feeling sorry for muslims they can end this madness but choose silence instead

      Rashid Kara - 2015-02-17 18:54

      @Darren, I will never feel sorry for jews, I despise Zionist, there you have it!!! they are the plotters and planners behind the scenes, the sooner everybody sees this the better it will be for all. Asked yourself this question, if they were the 'Chosen people" why during all this 2000+ years have they only face persecutions???

      Darren Marcus - 2015-02-17 19:16

      Rashid it's scary how brainwashed and pathetic muslims must be to believe the utter nonsense that comes out your mouths ? Murder every day in the name of only one religion and you have the cheek to blame the Jews

      Rashid Kara - 2015-02-17 19:27

      @the wrong view, Zionist have one agenda only, world domination!!! period, how they do it, better you go and asked them!!! huh!

      Rashid Kara - 2015-02-17 19:32

      @hans, you forget conveniently who is arming the jews , compare apples with apples fool then you can talk!!!

      muaazp - 2015-02-17 21:51

      Theotherview... How do you know they are practicing Muslims? If you have some inside information please share it. According to some journalists who have spent time with them, they don't even own a Quran and are not concerned about Islam. They are being paid to carry out attacks ... Money talks... Islam is just an excuse they use to rile up the masses. Offensive jihad is only carried out when Muslims cannot invite to Islam freely... In that case it is a duty of all Muslims to fight against that system. Defensive jihad is quite obvious like in the case of Palestine.

  • Ian Murray - 2015-02-17 18:28

    Jews and their cousins the ishmailites have been fighting and squabbling for generations. Kick them both out and don't get drawn into their nonsense.

      Logan Parker - 2015-02-18 07:41

      ...come on Ian...the muslims are the problem and definitely not the jews...where there are muslims they bring violence and their filth, while the jews always makes things better and more beautiful wherever they are...

  • Sabeer Mahomed - 2015-02-17 18:28

    Atheists will always be haters.

  • Abdullah Abdurrahman - 2015-02-17 18:39

    Funny how people make inflammatory comments thinking that they can do something about anything... And people want to start war with muslims? And want to try to wipe out Islam, do they realise that it will lead to world war 3? Strange and muslims are supposedly the violent war-mongers?

      Taz Yacoob - 2015-02-17 19:16

      Abdullah At the moment the world and especially South Africa is full of experts on the teachings of the Quran and Islam. Their extensive knowledge of these 2 subjects give them the right to pass judgement and paint all Muslims in the same light. Who are we to dispute such factual comments? What a forward thinking and open minded nation we are! Keep the faith brother!

      Abdullah Abdurrahman - 2015-02-17 19:20

      Lol these war-hungry people I don't think they have a clue about what war is all about... But let them keep on beating the drums, when they see the reality of what it is then they'll cry and die.

      Abdullah Abdurrahman - 2015-02-17 19:23

      No stress though, we will just go to our Caliphate state in the UK Birming (ham was removed coz its not halal)... Do any other terrorism experts here know of any other Caliphate states we can go to? otherview? raymon? anybody - help us out?

      Taz Yacoob - 2015-02-17 22:00

      I can agree that media has a massive part to play and so does the selective extraction of certain excerpts from the Quran taken out of context and then turned into a form of stick to beat Islam With. But that still does not explain the deep seeded hatred that ppl display. Surely you have to first look at a person as a human being and inherently good before automatically just making him evil. To me it's profiling with an intent of having a pre conceived notion of someone without even being in any position to pass judgement. Yet the comments are made like they are factual.

      Logan Parker - 2015-02-18 07:49

      Hehe, Abdullah, if people really started war against muslims, the muslims will lose. Muslims can only fight against unarmed people and women and children. Basically any conventional army can kick muslim ass...just look how islamists cry when littlte isael kick their ass over and over and over...hehe. Muslims are not good fighters plus they can't produce their own weapons...plus they are cowards...

  • Taz Yacoob - 2015-02-17 18:42

    @ Theotherview I'm not sure I follow your statement. Raymon seems to have this entire issue figured out and effectively incited more action against Muslims. I was merely congratulating him on such a refreshing outlook. Maybe he should look up the defy of extremist as his statement that action against Muslims should increase falls within this definition. Kinda ironic!

      Rashid Kara - 2015-02-17 19:22

      @the wrong view, name me the state that sponsor state terror????

  • Ayub Khan - 2015-02-17 18:42

    anti semitism is centuries old problem in Europe. Jew have been demonised and persecuted by Europeans throughout history because of their semetic looks and dressing. Further Jews have been descrimated against because they deny Christs claim to be son of God. It is inconceivable for Semites to associate partners to God.Arabs imitated the views of the Jews and so they were treated likewise. √čven george bush referred his invasion and devastation of the Middle East as a crusade.

  • Taz Yacoob - 2015-02-17 19:20

    @ Theotherview I must apologize in the manner in which that was written and came across. I meant the world needs more people like Raymon and the manner in which he thinks and the terrorists and extremists need him as well as his very thinking is what their despicable actions aim to create.

  • Taz Yacoob - 2015-02-17 19:25

    Abdullah Please allow me to explain that I don't encourage statements that incite violence and threats. This goes against all that I am taught as a Muslim and plays directly into the hands of those who think that ALL Muslims are violent. I do not wish war on anyone nor do I wish death. It's time to change the misconceptions about Islam in a responsible manner. Maaf if I offend you.

      Abdullah Abdurrahman - 2015-02-17 19:42

      Haha I wasnt promising death to anyone, I was saying that these war drums which people wana beat are gona lead to their own death... i'm not a killer, war is the killer but people don't seem to understand that.

      Raymon Mcnelly - 2015-02-17 20:53

      Taz Yacoob, Your perception is wrong. There are those who think all Muslims are violent but most do not. I for one, do not think so. I do however think that Muslims are deceived. Most Muslims are good people. Islam is the problem. Islam, on the surface deceives even devout Muslims, just like Roman Catholosism deceived billions of Christians. When you really take the time and studdy Islam, the life of Muhammad and Islamic history you will learn that Islam is a dragon in sheeps clothing. I am willing to debate any Muslims in a civil manner but my experience is that almost no Muslim on N24 is interrested. I'm hoping to continue a debate with Rashid and would do the same with you if you are interrested.

      Abdullah Abdurrahman - 2015-02-17 21:21

      How can sum1 say that Islam and the teachings of Muhammad PBUH is a wolf I sheeps clothing? Honestly... so many many incidents are mentioned about the Mercy, kindness, compassion, love, respect, honour, forgiveness, tolerance of Muhammad PBUH... And how can someone honestly say that muslims are deceived? Every belief of ours is based on proof, completely rational... Honestly?!! We arent the churches, pls don't make an analogy between us and them..

      Raymon Mcnelly - 2015-02-18 00:42

      Abdullah Abdurrahman, Studying Islam will teach you an important fact: Muhammad started off peacefully when he had only a handfull of followers. Back then he was all about peace and he especially liked to tell others to be peacefull. Some of the most peacefull verses are actually instructions to others (non Muslims). In fact, the verse many Muslims love to quote to prove that Islam is a religion of peace is Sura 5:32 which is a big deception which most uninformed people do not realise. You should also inform your readers that all those noble attributes you've listed (mercy, kindness, compassion and love) are meant for Muslims toward Muslims. None, not a single one, is meant for Muslims toward non-Muslims. This is written in the Quaran, in various places. I know the Quaran, and the Bible. I am not lying and I do not comment to deceive. I am only speaking the truth. If you dissagree, please let me know.

  • Taz Yacoob - 2015-02-17 19:29

    Abdullah Lol. Maybe Raymon is typing out the list of suburbs under Sharia law in Europe where women are raped as we speak. Yea Birmingham was supposedly so bad that non Muslims cud not evn walk in the streets! Terrorism experts!

  • Taz Yacoob - 2015-02-17 19:46

    @ Theotherview I am new to these forums but felt that I could no longer just read the damaging comments made from either side without actually attempting to assist in finding some middle ground. People are by nature caring and loving but based on despicable and inexcusable actions of a few animals we fight and bicker amongst ourselves as if this is what will make a change. Maybe I'm foolish and idealistic but rather try than sit back and nothing at all. Jus outbox curiosity, why would you say that my ideas will be lost in such forums?

      Taz Yacoob - 2015-02-17 20:08

      Your thoughts would be appreciated

  • Taz Yacoob - 2015-02-17 19:52

    Abdullah Phew! Thanks for clearing that up! I am honestly trying to understand what makes people think that ALL Muslims are violent and terrorists. I am hoping to have open and constructive discussions with anyone who is willing to discuss this is a civil manner. Note I said discussion and not debate as the 2 are very different. Happy to chat to anyone from either side as it is something that is clearly an issue.

      Rashid Kara - 2015-02-17 20:21

      @Taz, I hear your point I have been on your space ,my advise, you will get nothing but abuse abuse, and more abuse until it comes out from your ears, these are hate full trolls not interested in our views, completely Islamophobes!!! good luck! I will watch your comments and the replies you get!!

      Abdullah Abdurrahman - 2015-02-17 21:46

      It is the propaganda from two places - one the mass media, who on a daily basis - repeat the notion that all muslims are evil terrorist, they've been doing so for at least a decade. So that is one reason. And another reason are certain christians, who take misqouted and misuderstood aspects of Islam and use it to spread hate and islamaphobia in order to support there own religion - dishonestly - due to being threatened by Islam. And these two reasons filtered to all the levels of society.

      Abdullah Abdurrahman - 2015-02-17 21:49

      So the main causes from the side of an individual is ignorance - swallows up false, distorted info like a sponge absorbing water. And prejudice - bcoz they are inclined to believe that those besides them are wrong - without objectively, sincerely and honestly looking for proof, and sincerely asking for explanations for that which doesn't make sense to them or what seems questionable.

  • CyberDog Breath - 2015-02-17 20:08

    If all it takes is a few teens and a cartoonist to destabilize a country, it must have been pretty fcked to begin with.

  • Taz Yacoob - 2015-02-17 21:51

    @ Rashid Brother I hear you and some or the so called facts on Islam that ppl actually believe is scary to day the least. I can but try to set some of this straight but at the end of the day each man to his own, just wish the Islam bashing and disrespect to religions will stop already! Stupid question but why don't I always have a reply button on a post?

      Abdullah Abdurrahman - 2015-02-17 22:09

      I have many times answered many many queries and I'm sure it settled many peoples minds. but there are a certain group of obstinate haters who are worse than brick walls... you will come across them, just don't bother with them.

      Abdullah Abdurrahman - 2015-02-17 22:21

      '...drum-roll...' one of the obstinate haters...

      muaazp - 2015-02-17 22:53

      @Charles ... one can argue that money is the most evil invention of men... I hear you atheists say that people are killing in the name of Islam(btw Islam is not an invention)... More people kill for the gain of wealth than a few Muslims who may have some vendetta for what they are doing.. So one can argue that ridding the world of wealth will create a peaceful society ??? Point is people kill for different reasons.... There is good and bad in all nations... The media hypes up Muslim crimes and sheeple like you feed on the fodder without pausing and thinking about what is being said and how you are being manipulated. Intelligent people don't just accept, they ask questions.

      Rashid Kara - 2015-02-18 09:02

      @Charles " islam is an invention" but in your post I will quote you>>>>>>As long as these 3 abrahamic religions are dominant in the world we will never know peace" so what you saying all 3 religions are inventions!!! do I understand you correctly????

      Sarcastic Heathen - 2015-02-18 17:54

      I believe that is exacly what he is implying.

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