How US spies found bin Laden

2011-05-03 11:03

Washington - It took years of painstaking intelligence analysis to find Osama bin Laden in Pakistan - but only three words, "It's a go", uttered by President Barack Obama to launch the strike that would kill him.

Obama told his national security advisor Tom Donilon and several other top aides on Friday morning that he would sign off on the daring plan in a moment of drama in the ornate Diplomatic Room of the White House.

The violent and sudden operation in which bin Laden died in a short, intense firefight on Sunday in the Pakistani city of Abbottabad, contrasted with the months analysts spent piecing together clues that finally tracked him down.

Ever since bin Laden escaped in Afghanistan's Tora Bora mountain region in 2001 after al-Qaeda's deadly September 11 strikes, his trail had gone largely cold as he stayed hidden and avoided telephone calls that US spies could trace.

But senior officials said that they had a breakthrough last September, when they managed to link two couriers used by bin Laden to contact the outside world to a compound in the leafy garrison city near Islamabad.

The New York Times meanwhile reported that two Pakistani agents working for the CIA had earlier managed to identify one of the couriers in Peshawar, allowing US intelligence to trail him all the way to the Abbottabad site.

High value target

That breakthrough in turn was made possible years earlier, by information wrung out of high-level al-Qaeda operatives about the identity of the courier under harsh CIA interrogations, the paper said.

By last December, intelligence officials were convinced that there was a "high value target" living in the compound.

But officials, from Obama on down, never had 100% certainty that the al-Qaeda chief was inside the heavily fortified complex - right up until the moment when they learned that he had been killed in the operation.

A senior official said that the clues that there was something untoward about the compound were amassed over months.

"So we came across this compound, we paid close attention to it because it became clear that whoever was living here was trying to maintain a very discreet profile and was practicing a great deal of operational security," the official said.

"We believe that Osama bin Laden and his family were living on the second and third floors of the main buildings."

Suspects profile

Another official said that suspicions had been raised by extraordinary security measures taken at the compound - and the fact that those who lived there burned their trash instead of putting it out for collection.

Also, "they had a million-dollar home with no discernible income".

By March, Obama was sufficiently confident about the intelligence on the compound that he ordered the military to develop plans to attack it.

"We know there is a compound, we know some of the individuals there, we know they are associated with bin Laden, they live under extremely unique circumstances," the official said.

"If you build the case, it clearly leads to the fact that there is somebody who is a high value terrorist there, and bin Laden is the only person that fits the profile of who that high value terrorist would be."

By April, Obama was presented with three options: Inserting a US team to capture or kill the suspect, launching some kind of surgical strike like a bombing raid, or waiting for the development of further intelligence.


Amid intense secrecy, unusual even for the White House, Obama deliberated on what path to take with a small corps of top officials.

The downside of a bombing run was that, while it would not risk US personnel, it could cause more civilian casualties, and would leave little evidence as to the identity of those killed, the official said.

"It is not that you couldn't prove it wasn't him - you wouldn't know for sure," that you had hit bin Laden, the senior official said.

The option to send special forces in by helicopter would preserve the possibility of obtaining evidence - but would risk soldiers and had a higher chance of angering Pakistan with flights over its territory.

But that was the option Obama eventually chose.

Last Thursday, April 28, Obama called a final two-hour meeting in the White House Situation Room to discuss options - but told aides he would not tell them his decision until the next morning.

Before leaving on his Marine One helicopter to view tornado damage in Alabama the next morning, Obama told aides: "It's a go," setting in train the military command process that led to the Abbottabad operation.

  • Mduduzi - 2011-05-03 11:28

    something very fishy....ddnt know who it was and already ordered the bombing? wow. the fact buried at sea? No pics like Saddam..they made sure there was a lot of publicity round saddam in trial, execution, body...and in comparison, nothing on the number 1 most wanted man.....lies. Tis convinient too at election time.

      anna - 2011-05-03 11:33

      Precisely ... I have no time for conspiracies, but you can't help wondering. Anything is possible in today's world.

      Shahied - 2011-05-03 11:36

      yeah...I also smell rat !!Will wait and see if a video of Bin Laden pops up.....just imagine !!

      The Spear - 2011-05-03 11:39

      Then where is he? Come on, please. Osama would have made a video by now if he was still alive. The US provide proof via picture and DNA and you deny this on yhe ground of what? A feeling?

      Redwine - 2011-05-03 11:40

      The pictures are on their way Thomas. In fact you can order the entire DVD inclusive of the training done at the mock up house. B-U-T Remeber O(M/S)AMA was a USA sponsered operative at the time when Afghanistan was fighting USSR. Figure this out my dear Watson.

      wesleywt - 2011-05-03 11:44

      Maybe they should have cut his head off and spiked it on the white house lawn to satisfy you. Conspiracy nuts are so annoying.

      Brendon - 2011-05-03 11:49

      And this hollywood film continues. This is going to be a pretext for something big.

      CygnusX1 - 2011-05-03 12:08

      Well Mdudzi and co what would YOU have done under the circumstances to ensure that you could "prove" that Bin Laden was killed? He is dead, got his face blown away for his trouble and by all accounts many Muslims heaved a sigh of relief. Now you deal with it!

      Christiaan - 2011-05-03 12:10

      A muslim man must be buried 24 hours after his death. He was buried at sea in accordance with Muslim customs. Burying him on land would have created an unnecessary "symbol" to other Jihadists. They didnt know who it was, but they knew it was a high profile target due to the elaborate security measures taken at the compound (burning trash, instead of taking it out like everyone else). Saddam Hussein was killed during the Bush era, therefore you can't compare the two, they are vastly different presidents. Osama bin Laden was always shrouded in mystery, and no matter when or how he died, that mystery would inevitably have continued. Very easy to jump on the uninformed band wagon and claim a conspiracy, but being informed, through a multitude of sources, will most likely lead you to a more intelligent conclusion.

      Cire - 2011-05-03 12:31

      @wesleywt: Agree completely. However, conpiracy theories will never die (unlike bin laden). there are still people who believe in a flat earth, that the US never went to the moon, that there is an international Zionist conspiracy to rule the world, that there is an international Freemasonry conspiracy to rule the world, that shapechanging lizards rule the world, that the CIA invented AIDS, that Michael Moore makes reliable documentaries, that David Icke really knows what is going on. Reality is just too difficult to deal with for a lot of people.

      fpstevens - 2011-05-03 12:38

      @Mduduzi, Saddam was fleeing for his life with little or no support, he was alone and was found hiding in a hole in the ground, he was relatively easy to arrest, he was abandoned and alone. Osama was hidden in secret in a high security compound surrounded by fanatical supporters each of whom would fight to the death for him. Just a little common sense and the "conspiracy" does not exist.

      BakkieB - 2011-05-03 12:43

      If you have DSTV you should have watched NDTV. They had very graphic photos of bin Laden on TV. Half his head was blown away.

      Kaapie - 2011-05-03 12:55

      Christiaan if you know nothing about Islamic rites then dont comment on it. There are certain rites that are performed which it appears you are just repeating from broadcasts and bulletins.

      Mgayi - 2011-05-03 13:39

      @BakkieB Thanks for the NDTV tip , I'll check it out

      Sinjoku - 2011-05-03 14:09

      You all have a point conspiracy will forever shroud this story. However this is what the US like and probably want. Kill one Bin Laden today and prove it, 40 Bin Ladens tomorrow, current situation...Is he dead is he not dead... Did he get taken alive...Leaves little room for the creation of a martyr. Plus conspiracies have a knock on effect regarding economy. Already I hear the keyboards of writers saying it never happened and cash registers making a distinct sound..... kind of like a slot machine. And lets not leave Hollywood out, mmmmmm Ridley Scott or John McTiernan movie....Maybe both and many more to follow. It is called making good of something.

      rimmoah - 2011-05-03 19:40

      @wesleywt we still waiting for evidence of the plane that hit the pentagon...mmm no wreckage,no dead bodies,nothing .the real terrorists are in the white house playing risk with afghanistan and up Iran.

      velastardust - 2011-05-03 21:53

      For the doubters, a real good conspiracy theory and it's all in the name. ama. Osama dyed his hair, had a facelift and with a few hours of personal coaching, became Obama. That is why the body had to be dumped at see. It is all so simple.

      buka001 - 2011-05-04 19:03

      No evidence a plane hit the Pentagon? Really chum have you actually done anything on your own to research that claim? I'll bet you haven't. There is DNA results of passengers, Radar data confirms the crash. There were large sections of the aircrafts engine recovered. Landing gear was also found. And tons of shards of aluminium was found all over the area. You could even see the AA logo on some pieces. They recovered bodies still strapped in their seats burnt beyond recognition. Google for the photos. Numerous people saw the plane crash into the pentagon. A cab driver had the jet fly over his car and saw it impact. There were lightposts knocked over by the aircraft. How else did they fall over? What would you expect to find from an aircraft that was flown into one of the most structurally reinforced buildings in the world at 850 kilometers per hour? Logic has failed you.

      NEWS24SUX - 2011-05-04 20:32

      $34 000 000 000 000 later ! pity the American Tax prayer !

  • Jackster - 2011-05-03 11:33

    I'm sure im not the only one that would like to see proof of such a claim.

      castle lager - 2011-05-03 12:41

      you will see the proof when the other Jihads's start their revenge attacks .........they know that this motherf$#%$& is dead so who are u too see PROOF ?!!!!! makes no difference to you or anyone else if he is dead it matters to his followers!!

  • CHIPPER_CHAP - 2011-05-03 11:35


  • Anton - 2011-05-03 11:35

    Why did they not capture him and get ALL the info on Al Quaeda that they need. Why kill him and dispose of the body at sea...............FISHY - 2011-05-03 11:48

      As if bin Landen will talk when interogated. He would rather die than be captured alive. We are talking about Osama bin Landen here, imagine him standing trial in the USA. That will be too humiliating for him and alquaeda. They can never take him alive.

      Jacques - 2011-05-03 12:06

      He's now swimming with the fishes see?

      therealdeal - 2011-05-03 12:54

      By capturing him alive, you just looking for shit. No one will be safe, Kidnappings/ Murder/ ransom for the release of that animal will be the order of the day. Its also a waste of tax payers money ie a high profile trial and all the security that goes with it. Even if he was buried, that spot will become a prime target for everything evil & sinister.

      Gatvol - 2011-05-03 13:36

      Could be that he was captured alive. We will probably never know. Would be a smarter thing to do than killing him.

      sharaad - 2011-05-03 19:09

      Robert Fisk said on CNN that had he been captured and put on trial for the public it would have revealed too much information on the involvement of the US. With Saddam they only charged him with 153 murders, not the gassing of thousands. The reason for this is it would have come out that the US was the one supplying Saddam with the gas. So it served the governments interest to have him killed and now they look like heroes.

  • Fry - 2011-05-03 11:40

    When is the movie coming out?

  • Fry - 2011-05-03 11:40

    When is the movie coming out?

      tripwire - 2011-05-03 12:26

      The guys that did THE Hurt Locker is busy with it as we speak... No Jokes !

      Arcturus - 2011-05-03 13:10

      tripwire...I thought a chick did The hurt Locker?

      Gatvol - 2011-05-03 13:38

      Starring Steven Seagull

      SiphovdMerwe - 2011-05-03 16:47

      Steven Seagull??? he he he

      Fry - 2011-05-04 08:51

      Zach Galifianakis can play Osama...

  • Stylin - 2011-05-03 11:41

    Sounds like Obama is pulling a "Bush" on the Americans... Lets see him slide into another term.... - American's seem to be at the mercy of their government emotionally, much like our ANC and most of it's followers... The government can dish anything and they will consume, consumer, consume...

      Cire - 2011-05-03 12:33

      Whereas you know exactly what is happening, oh wise one!

  • Slingervel - 2011-05-03 11:45

    Zanu, well said! That is exactly what the killing of the Osama scumbag means! A perfect mission and the Yanks need to be congratulated! Well done Barack Obama!

  • Shaun - 2011-05-03 11:45

    I will really believe it when Michael Moore says it happened...

  • willieman - 2011-05-03 11:56

    That's what i call inteligence nog al in foreign country.Our intligent services can't even track people whom bomb atms daily,power cables thieves.Ahh!!! we in trouble in this country,what about the secury of the country.EIshhh they are busy fighting about who is going tbobe the next president after Zuma

      CygnusX1 - 2011-05-03 12:12

      Williemin, a few years ago our "Intelligence Service" had 22 mini busses stolen, they were never recovered. Then of course there was the daylight robbery on their property outside Pretoria when a armed vehicle was robbed with millions of rands in foreign currency. Defies logic!!

      CAD59 - 2011-05-03 17:10

      @CygnusX1:the 22 minibuses were never recovered because our "uninteligent service" probably stole them in the first place to start a taxi sevice and as for the armed vehicle robbery, how do you think they were going to pay for the fuel?

  • Francois - 2011-05-03 12:04

    should make a great movie!

  • Karen - 2011-05-03 12:05

    Surely he would have been more use alive ? Why kill him ? That is the easy way out !

      Brewster - 2011-05-03 12:50

      No Karin, keeping him alive he would have been more dangerous. He would be a target for rescue and terrorist attacks, other kidnappings all over the world for ransom (which would probably called for his release) etc and that would have posed a major threat world wide. Buried at sea also means that there would be no grave to holify or made a shrine of. The US government also stated that there was no country that would accept his body for burial. If you read most of the reports, you would have noticed that all his computers' hard drives were taken. They got all the intellegence they wanted - this was his/Al Quaida operational centre. He was of no further use. No, to the security of the Western world, he is far more useful dead than alive. Hence the command: Kill, don't capture. I can understand that strategic position.

      JustinD - 2011-05-03 14:25

      You aint gonna capture a man alive if he wont let you. What do think this is????? An episode of Magnum PI.

      pawsaw - 2011-05-04 15:25

      @Brewster If they got all his computer equipment with information how was it that they had taken 10 years to find him. Hackers and spammers could get into secrets a la Wikileaks so how was it that they had to track him on foot? Just curious a I thought they had the top IT heads in America. Makes me feel a bit as though we have a reprieve from Big Brother knowing ALL our secrets if Osama could get away without a single leak for so long.

  • tkotze - 2011-05-03 12:07

    If captured I can only imagine that his extremist followers would immediately get hostages and start cutting heads off on TV until he was released. By killing him at least this type of scenario could be prevented where more innocents will loose their lives. I feel sorry for the family members which might not have been part of the terrorist side of him, but still, I am glad that the troops in Afghanistan can now look forward to going home in the not too far future. I have feeling that this is the start of the last paragraph in the 9/11 book

      camp.j - 2011-05-03 12:45

      Very good point you have there

  • Wow! - 2011-05-03 12:09

    Well said Zanu. Don't abuse the USA - consequences are dire!! Equally, though they always step up to the plate when the sane world needs them. To the conspirator theory clan - Obama would have far too much to loose by not being straight with this message.

  • Niknac - 2011-05-03 12:13

    I think Bin laden is still out there.

      Cire - 2011-05-03 12:34

      Didn't you mean down there?

      slademich - 2011-05-03 14:07

      And the Lunar Landing was fake and the earth is really flat. I am with you buddy, see you at tonights rally. Don't forget the sectret handshake!

      mike - 2011-05-03 14:18

      and Elvis lives too

  • Cire - 2011-05-03 12:13

    Brilliant work by the armed forces of the USA!

  • tripwire - 2011-05-03 12:17

    To those who think America is the freedom Fighters of the world , I feel ashamed. The media,misinformation and hollywood has done what its supposed to do. America has by Far killed the Most people ever in the world these are the Nuke people that will blow you away if you have natural resources and you don`t want to sign it over.

      tripwire - 2011-05-03 12:22

      Did you know that the Largest Amount of People / race to be erraticated ever wasn`t by the hands of the Nazi`s but the American`s that wiped the Native American Indians .. That was their home untill those freedom fighters came with their conservations / concentration camps

      Cire - 2011-05-03 12:24

      Have you ever considered visiting planet Earth?

      Joe - 2011-05-03 12:34

      lol...pity Zim dont have anything

      Leviathan - 2011-05-03 12:35

      i would much rather the US controlling things then iran, north korea. I hope US prevents iran fr getting a nuclear warhead, so US must attack iran aswell.And the would is a better place without Osama

      Ingwe - 2011-05-03 12:39

      Tripwire what utter rubbish you really do need to get your facts straight

      Leviathan - 2011-05-03 12:46

      get ur facts straight tripwire. Joseph Stalin is regarded as killing the most people ever

      Lump of coal - 2011-05-03 12:54

      @Tripwire .... you do maths lit at school ??? You are saying that the yanks killed in excess of 5 million native Americans ???? Without air power or nuclear ???? Back to school soon bro !!!!

      gaaatvol - 2011-05-03 13:20

      @Ingwe and Cire. And you are experts how? I fully agree with trip wire. They might not have killed the most people in the world - think that was Stalin's job, but they did manage to basically wipe out native Indians. Fact is, America is the REAL enemy to us at this stage in world history. We want to avert another World War. Not ignite it through interference in Muslim countries.

      SaintBruce - 2011-05-03 13:55

      Tripwire - a simple study in History would reveal a few recorded facts and some speculative facts about genocides in the last millenia ( 1000 years). How about: Catholic Inquisition : estimates 60 - 400 million executed over a 400 year period. WE just don't know how bloody they were! Joseph Stalin: estimated 66 Million USSR citizens were exterminted by the paranoid leader ( on whose ideals many ANC Cadres model themselves). Adolf Hitler: Recorded 6 Million Jews and 5 Million other 'dissidents' disposed of via their 'cleansing' process! 11 Million in total excluding the 44 Milliom who died in the Second World War. Rwanda Genocide : A known 1 million killed , maybe many not recorded. Serbia - Herzegovenia war : numbers not known but thought to be a million or more killed. South America : People made to 'disappear' - not known but in the hundreds of thousands. Stack that against : Hiroshima and Nagasaki - a few hundred thousand deaths over time, to stop a calculated 500 000 + deaths of American soldiers! The Native American Indians never numbered in the multiples of millions but there are no proper records of their population size nor do we have those for Incas, Aztecs, Bushmen, Strandlopers, Aboriginals or other forest tribes decimated at the hands of other races! Get an education, please!

      CAD59 - 2011-05-03 17:16

      @ tripwire: you're obvously an ignorant prick and it shows in your writing...

      pawsaw - 2011-05-04 15:31

      This may be so but they have not used it but once and have shown restraint now for like 60 odd years. Had they not used it when they did we would all be talking Mandarin by now and apartheid wouldn't have happened and neither would Madiba. Make no mistake the Japanese make African cruelty pale into insignificance and take no prisoners except to work them to death.

      pawsaw - 2011-05-04 15:46

      Actually Tripwire this I do agree with = the colnisers of America, uassing the techniques they had obtained from the Chinese who invented gunpowder killed off most Native Americans and then bought slaves from anywhere but especially Africa. In that regard Africans in Africa were treated far better because of the missionaries and merchants. Imagine if Britain had been able to afford to send the 90,000 people who applied to come to South Africa when they lured my ancestors here. There would be no ANC or if any they would like the American Indians be living in reserves which I take it are like homelands for them. Why was colonialism necessary? Because of overpopulation and resources and the industrial revolution. Which is precisely why the world is in such a mess today - too many people too few resources or work to keep idle hands busy foraging for food and water.

  • liana.prinsloo - 2011-05-03 12:25

    Can't wait for the movie!

  • Weasledna - 2011-05-03 12:30

    "Another official said that suspicions had been raised by extraordinary security measures taken at the compound - and the fact that those who lived there burned their trash instead of putting it out for collection. Also, "they had a million-dollar home with no discernible income"." Sounds a lot like Malemas house here in Sandton , dont you think the USA should come shoot it up aswell.

  • Joe - 2011-05-03 12:32

    Bin laden is the most spoken name of our time lol...I wont be surprised if Bin laden was handed over to Saudi custody. They claim hes dead but we still waiting for solid proof. Anybody can blabber away especially if you the president of America. As far as I understand, all saudi terrorist that get captured by Nato/Isaf are ALWAYS handed over to their country and prosecuted internally. Saudi has their own Gauntanemo, an even deadlier place then the actual guantanemo.

      corliah - 2011-05-04 09:13

      What solid proof do you want? DNA tests not enough? Do you want to touch the body? Why should they satisfy you average Joe.

      rugdusty - 2011-05-04 09:48

      @Joe - I agree with corliah, why would USA waste their time proving to YOU that he is dead ... They don't need public approval for the killing of a mass murdering douchebag

  • thinker - 2011-05-03 12:35

    Just wondering who Obama consulted between the meeting and "it's a go" morning and why not put Osama on trail?

      corliah - 2011-05-04 09:16

      He was found guilty loooong time ago thinker, ergo the order to capture dead or alive. Ignorance is not an excuse.

      rugdusty - 2011-05-04 09:50

      Any resistance and they "put the subject down "... why would they waste their time with a trial ...

  • Greegs - 2011-05-03 12:36

    Pictures will appear at some point otherwise it's not 100% true. Maybe these will appear to drive Obama votes. I believe he's been shot!!! They woulbn't be making this noise if not true!!! Well done the US of A

      trekpostal - 2011-05-03 12:57

      I love the US news machine - dump a body in the ocean as no other nation wanted to claim it and still no pictures as proof. Osama is alive and in a cargo hold of a plane going somewhere (not guantanamo) for interrogation - remember that a dead person has no human right

      Joe - 2011-05-03 14:37

      @trekpostal...Im thinking the same thing, hes alive and in custody. Why would america kill a so called mastermind when they can achieve much more by interrogating him. The Us media is a powerful tool that easily wins over the hearts of people.

      HowardX - 2011-05-03 15:22

      Actually he was probably killed as far back as 2002 but it was in the US interests to keep the bogeyman alive. Several high US officials have alluded to his being dead over the last ten years, not the least of which was Madeline Albright and Bush himself who said some years ago that Osama Bin Laden was now irrelevant.

      corliah - 2011-05-04 09:17

      Joe again I have to question your logic. They got what they wanted so why would they want to interrogate him?

      rugdusty - 2011-05-04 09:53

      @Greegs- what a load of rubbish . The people in charge of the US government need to know if he is dead or not , and be satisfied with the fact. They do not have to show you or anyone else a shred of evidence.

  • Mj - 2011-05-03 12:42

    The Nobel peace prize is a farce and a western driven propaganda machine whose self interest is greed.

      rugdusty - 2011-05-04 09:57

      LOL-"A major criticism of the peace-prize is the regular failure to award individuals with widely recognized contributions to peace"

  • The Unknown - 2011-05-03 12:43

    Spot the similarity. Osama/Obama

      gaaatvol - 2011-05-03 13:24

      Ah please Unknown! Much as I dislike the Americans for their war mongering, it really is far-fetched to suspect Obama of being a Muslim. And if he is, so what????

      zulufox - 2011-05-03 13:35

      you're an a*s and ironically (lol), the difference between Osama and Obama is an 'S' ... hahhahahahahahahha

      velastardust - 2011-05-03 22:02

      Ha ha. My thoughts exactly.

      rugdusty - 2011-05-04 10:00

      Obama's second name is Hussein ... please grow a brain The Unknown... he has Muslim and Islamic heritage ... so what ...

  • Andre - 2011-05-03 12:43

    Irony of this all?? Goerge Bush has been vindicated of his war efforts in Afganistan. The killing of Bin Laden has proved once and for all that indeed, George Bush was correct.... This takes nothing away from the Pres Obama as such. His job fas to finish what Bush before him started. Find and Kill Bin Laded, nothing more nothing less... Maby now can the Middle East become a safer place. Yes, you will have some shouting and screaming of extremist, but the head of the snake has been cut off. And without a charismatic leader like Bin Laden, it will be difficult to regroup. Of course there is the other message to any Bin Laden Would-Like-To-Be: "We will find you and take you out, No matter how long it may take". And this by itself is a very major deterrent to ant Would-Like-To-Be Bin Laden. Because if they could find him????

      Kaapie - 2011-05-03 15:41

      Andre youre talking nonsence. Bush tried to tell the world Iraq had nuclear weapons..NONE of which hs ever surfaced. The reason for his invasion was to get his buddies companies access to oil in this part f the world period. As for afghanistan they want to control the drug trade there

      simon - 2011-05-03 17:47

      Right, Andre. barack Hussein Obama is milking this event for all the political points he can score. It is pathetic to watch, as he is not on record as supporting the US role in the middle east.

      rugdusty - 2011-05-04 10:03

      1000's of soldiers dead ... 1 mass murderer dead ... justice and a reason for war ... definitely not...

  • MadMatt_88 - 2011-05-03 12:51

    I'm loving all this Talibanter.

  • MadMatt_88 - 2011-05-03 12:52

    I don't believe this about Osama Bin Laden being dead. I think it's an turban legend.

      Arcturus - 2011-05-03 13:19


      rugdusty - 2011-05-04 10:05

      Hopefully this event will sheik things up in the area ...

  • eugene smit - 2011-05-03 12:54

    Wait so u all believe this because the media told u this? The same media ppl believe like sheep, If u wait long enough and the documents gets public then it normally shows how much BS they fed the people. U cannt believe anything u read anywhere really, if u where not there its open for sepcualtion. Yes they had DNA samples, did u c it? did u test it? No..exactly so u know as little as we all do. This just shows another sign of the Islam and Christianity eventually leading to a 3rd world war, we are just being played so that there could be a establishment of theone world goverment, one believe and a world of "peace". Yes u can say its all stories" but are they not clamping down on everything, did the USA presidents not say from the 1980s we are heading for a one world goverment I.E Bush Senior, did JFK not give a speach about this? Does the UN not "have a controlling word" in nations......

      Nifty - 2011-05-03 13:14

      Not going to get involved in conspiracy theories here with everyone but the claims of DNA matching Bin Laden's are a bit vague. He was killed on Sunday and they announced it on Monday. So that was enough time to draw his blood or tissue sample. Then they had the equipment to preserve it in the field correctly to prevent degradation. Then to send this sample to a laboratory (in Europe perhaps considering the time-line) as America is a good many hours flight away. Extract DNA, process it and run it on a Sequencer = a good few more hours. Then release his result. And as to what did they compare it too according to another article: "Bin Laden's DNA has been matched to several family members. And there is at least 99% certainty that the DNA matches that of Osama bin Laden," the second official told AFP. Using this technique of family members,one will not be able to establish certainty to 99%. Using Osama's own DNA to match, sure. Not family members and definitely not to 99%. And which family members and where did they get their DNA from as well - was it from the same incident or from a previous opportunity? Interesting...If only we could process samples that quickly here in our own crime lab in Pretoria, the backlog of cases would be non-existent.

      Heiku Staude - 2011-05-03 17:13

      Wait what? Nifty: are you a cop? WE HAVE A CRIME LAB?!?

  • Henry - 2011-05-03 12:56 look at this link.

      Arcturus - 2011-05-03 13:29

      Good one, Henry

      JohannV - 2011-05-03 13:32

      Rubbish! Dead for 10 years? And what about the recent "until 2 years ago" videos on Al-Jazeera? And is the Pakistani government in on this "hoax"? Because they sure as hell were very surprised that the US took him out, because he was known to have been in Pakistan for at least the last 5 years and the were hoping the US wouldn't find him there. There will ALWAYS be conspiracy theories. Don't get sucked in!

      Joe - 2011-05-03 14:54

      Political manouver if you ask me. Recenctly in Libya, Nato killed Gaddafis son and Grandchildren.I suppose Obama took flak for killing innocent children their but all that was forgotten after this bin laden saga. For Obama to be re-elected he needed something concrete to save his next term in office. But I won't blame Obama since it was Bush who left him with the worlds mess. Bush gave his reason for invading afghanistan- to capture/kill Osama. If Osama is now dead, why is America still in Afghanistan? There are a lot of theories, only God knows best.

      HowardX - 2011-05-03 15:23

      Those videos have long ago been discredited as fakes - the facial structures did not even match the original OBL.

  • Anc13thDisciple - 2011-05-03 13:03

    I say Denzil Washington would make the best leading roll in the movie that shoots down Osama...... can't wait for that

      Anc13thDisciple - 2011-05-03 13:04

      or Arnold Scharzinigger

      liesl - 2011-05-03 13:23

      Arnie's too old ... I say Denzel for Obama. The Seal leader can be one of the very yummy younger actors around.

      Kaapie - 2011-05-03 15:42

      No Mel Gibson..

      Kaapie - 2011-05-03 15:42

      Or better still John Rambo.. he NEVER dies

      Buzzbar - 2011-05-03 17:35

      I hear Chuck Norris just got back from a vacation in Pakistan...

      simon - 2011-05-03 17:49

      I say jellytot malema for barak HUSSEIN obama

  • gaaatvol - 2011-05-03 13:06

    Reading the comments to this story, it is clear why AMERICA IS ENEMY NUMBER ONE! Through their propaganda they manage to make large sections of the world population believe in their courses. I don't condemn terror or Osama bin Laden's actions, but the Americans are a danger to world peace. They need to send a clear message that Muslims are not the enemy. But somehow they end up doing just that: make Muslims look evil. It is shocking that so many News24 readers believe American propaganda.

      gaaatvol - 2011-05-03 13:34

      oops, that was supposed to be condone. I don't condone terrorism ;-)

      james4usa - 2011-05-03 15:20

      Osama grew up in virulent anti Israel environment. It's US support for Isr that is the problem.

  • Pete OJ - 2011-05-03 13:14

    MadMatt: you don't know your history mate! If it wasn't for the States, Brittian would have been screwed! The supply lines and the huge production facilities is what saved the UK bacon! The joined officially in 1941, hardly towards the end of an already won war! Why do you think US got the upper-command from Montgomery? Because they were Johnny-come-latelies? They didn't do too badly protecting South-Korea from the northern spiders and they are still there protecting and avoiding war. People love taking the hand-outs, but nail them on old stuff like Vietnam (which by the way is the last war USA actually lost)

      MadMatt_88 - 2011-05-03 13:40

      Good job war wasnt declared in Somalia in the early 90's, because that would definitely not have been a victory there. American involvement only followed when Germany never bit at American agression intended to provoke a declaration of war. Thus the USA only entered the war after staging several False Flag opperations, most notably the USS Athenia, and pre-knowledge of pearl Harbour.

      drowninja - 2011-05-04 18:04

      And destabilised Vietcong. They did not loose it more than that they did not reach objective, kill the Vietcong. No one won there.

  • Karen - 2011-05-03 13:20

    @Kaapie and MadMatt - Sad to say it but without the US we wouldn't have won either war - check up on your history why don't you!

      gaaatvol - 2011-05-03 13:30

      It's a bit difficult to tell since we can't replay the first and second world war without the Americans. But what is clear for everybody to see is that the US will cause World War III. The US must stop interfering in Muslim countries!

      Ripley - 2011-05-03 14:34

      Hey Gaaatvol - you seem to be forgetting that it is the cloth heads who are interfering in non-muslim countries - example : World Trade Tower bombings which resulted in Bin Laden finally getting what was due to him.

      HowardX - 2011-05-03 15:25

      Yeah, but those wars would not have gone on for so long had the US not vacillated for a few years in both cases before joining the Allies.

      Kaapie - 2011-05-03 15:45

      Karen go and properly and read all sources and then comment.

  • george aschendorf - 2011-05-03 13:28

    I wonder what will happen if all the Americans that was so happy that he is no death .If the end of the world is herre and Osama bin linden goes to Heaven and they to Hell.It took 9 years to catched him what dead all the victems people ask God did they pray and aks God iof he is found they must kill him because all of them was so happy.God gives Life and he does not take Love. I can some that loves you take your life and let yopu suffer and if you suffre because of the one that was taken then you will alos Hate that person because he took something from you.People The saying goes when it is your time than it is your time. The Devil kills people and not God. The first question we ask when some close to us die .we always aks God why him what did he do why did you take him form us

      Brewster - 2011-05-03 13:50

      Hell George, were you consious when you wrote this?

      JohannV - 2011-05-03 13:56

      Ummm... can you try in English?

      mike - 2011-05-03 14:36

      wow, can I have some of what you're smoking

      Ripley - 2011-05-03 14:37

      Yes... and try adding a bit more water to it....

      MadMatt_88 - 2011-05-03 15:18

      What a load o bollocks.

      Buzzbar - 2011-05-03 17:40

      George, is the Witblitz bottle empty ?

      Anton - 2011-05-03 19:50

      Dude, you made my night! That was the most insane load of horse bollocks I have ever read, but I love you for it! Can we meet for coffee?

      velastardust - 2011-05-03 22:07

      George, I think you just blew a fuse.

  • zulufox - 2011-05-03 13:32

    Obama is brilliant, he did what Bush couldn't do for many years... Give him a Bells!!

      james4usa - 2011-05-03 15:32

      Obama the C "student" dope smoking Marxist. Voted NO to extend Patriot act wire tap clause. In Dec2005 Voted YES Habeas corpus for Terrorist in Sept 2006. Voted YES to close Guantanamo in 2007. Got Holder to app. Special procecutor to investigate CIA interrogators. Appointed L Panetta with ZERO Intell exp. to run CIA. You don't have a clue Bub.

      simon - 2011-05-03 21:09

      You are nuts. As the article says, this effort has been going on for years, before brak hussein obama took office. Hussein is now milking it for whatever political points he can get, even while he is on record as not supporting the effort in the middle east. What a opportunistic flip-flopper.

  • Claire - 2011-05-03 13:36

    Well done to the Americans at least the families who lost people by his hand have some sort of closure and can move on now... my only worry is pandora's box has been opened I cannot help but wonder what osama's followers are going to do next???

  • Andre - 2011-05-03 13:43

    Interesting comments posted... Conspirancy theory? Why not? Elvis isn't dead either, his he? Wake up, this is the real world we live in.... It is all about values and are our values of freedom and democracy worth fighting for. The anti-war campainers for certain do not seem to think so. Why getting involved into somebody else's problems, we risking our soldiers lifes? Think what the world would be today if the US had followed this policy during WWII? And so there are plenty of examples throughout history... Stop fooling yoursels, if Extremist Islam is not kept at bay, then not before long we all will life under its rule. In the fight for Freedom, you have no other option than to take the fight to those we want to destruy this freedom? Then one last thought? Campaining does cost money, lots of it... Where do the anti-war campaigners get there funding? Maybe from those who stand most to gain? The extremist? Make you think doesn't it

      HowardX - 2011-05-03 15:26

      Well, at least with Elvis there was concrete evidence. In this case, we just have to accept the US word for it.

  • Alex Millne - 2011-05-03 13:47

    Oh my gosh!!!!! Thats awful news! :( My heart goes out to the bin Laden Family! May he rest in peace! I feel for Osama bin Laden. He was just a confused man and he is also just human. I think that's terrible how he died :*( I pray that he'll find some peace. He had a hard life and at least now he can rest in the Lords arms.....God bless, R.I.P OSAMA BIN LADEN. :*( :*( xxxx xxx xxx KISS'S

      Ripley - 2011-05-03 14:40

      Hope you said similar prayers for all the victims of the 9/11 bombings !!

      patrice - 2011-05-03 15:21

      Poor man - not only has he been shot up on this earthly plane - he now has the unenviable task of deflowering 987 virgins as a reward on the next.

      MadMatt_88 - 2011-05-03 15:21


  • Alex Millne - 2011-05-03 13:48

    Oh my gosh!!!!! Thats awful news! :( My heart goes out to the bin Laden Family! May he rest in peace! I feel for Osama bin Laden. He was just a confused man and he is also just human. I think that's terrible how he died :*( I pray that he'll find some peace. He had a hard life and at least now he can rest in the Lords arms.....God bless, R.I.P OSAMA BIN LADEN. :*( :*( xxxx xxx xxx KISS'S

      docadrian - 2011-05-04 10:15

      Not sure if you're being sincere or taking the piss...?

  • shozi - 2011-05-03 14:03

    I feel sori for the Americans coz for sure someone will revenge for Osama...

  • Kay - 2011-05-03 14:04

    i don't believe they killed him. They've been searching for him for 10 years, woul dthe really just kill him before questioning him or something o fthe sort? They disposed of hi sbody in the sea? yea right!

      Grunk - 2011-05-03 14:55

      Kay,you have a couple of things against your theory - firstly being US trained, the personnel involved generally shoot/kill first and think afterwards. Secondly, if the total secrecy was breached surrounding his capture and questioning/torture, the ramifications of the attempts to free him would be quite horrendous I would think.

      kidblack - 2011-05-03 17:50

      Thanks Grunk. Just repeat everything you hear on CNN, as if you are an expert, as if what what you know is based on anything else than mass hype, then MAYBE... just maybe... you will realize the truth of whats going on this world before its too late.

  • - 2011-05-03 14:16

    Don't believe it! Bin Laden is probably hiding somewhere here in SA as a guest of a prominent youth league leader with the support of "big brother". Keep looking over your shoulders Soufeffrikens!

  • Des Attwell - 2011-05-03 14:30

    Reading all the conjecture - the only people who know the full story are the Navy Seals.Look for a rush of books in 2061 - if any of them lives that long.

  • avocadoproducts - 2011-05-03 14:35

    we need the american way tp deal with farm murders!!

  • The huntchback - 2011-05-03 15:02

    The first blunder, the pics floating the net is fake Photo shopped, awaiting the fake video release. Why Bury him at sea so soon after the death. Why not keep his body as proof especially when the body would silence all the conspiracy theorist? Even my five year old would think better than the US, they were huntung him for so long yet they killed him in 40 min and buried him a few hours later. Dont get me wrong I am not saying they should have paraded his body, just keep it long enough to have irrevocable evidence of his death. I smell a Rat!!

      HowardX - 2011-05-03 15:28

      Even the mainstream media (MSNBC) has been running a story on the fake picture:

      corliah - 2011-05-04 09:31

      They honoured his religion, keeping his body past the 24hrs would have resulted in way more frackas

  • Kaapie - 2011-05-03 15:27

    Squire go and check your history .. 2/3 of German forces were on the eastern front fighting the Russians and 1/3 in the rest of Europe and north Africa. Great Victory rom the American press.

      Buzzbar - 2011-05-03 17:45

      And who kicked the Japs out of the pacific islands / Philipines Kaapie ? The Minstrels?

  • Filipe - 2011-05-03 15:27

    Im a firm believer that 2 people can keep a secret if they both dead... for all those conspiracy enthusiasts, making up a story like this and then keeping the TRUTH hidden from the public would be meerly impossible. America has many secrets wich they keep safe guarded, but they most certainly would not make up a story and then go PUBLIC with it... Come on guys... STOP being so narrow minded.

      Brewster - 2011-05-03 19:58

      Filipe, This is probably the most levelheaded and convincing comment on this article. Well done!!

  • Jack - 2011-05-03 15:57

    There are some spectacularly idiotic people commenting on this site. Those who believe that the bin laden thing is a hoax are the same stupid people who believe the moon landings never happened, the bulls have all the refs on their payroll, the world economy is run by a small group of jews, the fbi killed kennedy, etc. etc. Putting electronic communication devices in the hands of such idiots is the same as putting a razor in the hands of a baboon.

      corliah - 2011-05-04 09:34

      hiehie, and the freemasonry is running the world etc etc. So funny. If they lie about the bin laden thing it will come out so I can just not fathom why they would do that.

  • IHLOBO - 2011-05-03 16:31

    Let us all relax for 2 minutes. We will only know for sure if he is not dead if we get a video of him dated the day after he was killed. Surely tests could have been done re his kidney issue as I believe he needed treatment for his problem. I can't believe the Pakistanies didn't know he was there - come on, don't people have eyes in the area or are they all his followers - forget history guys and girls - let's face it none of us learn from it. Buried at sea - that was rather quick and odd... would like to see footage but then again you just never know. I don't think the US government would open themselves up to looking like they are telling lies to their people.

      drowninja - 2011-05-04 17:59


  • SOOTHSAYER - 2011-05-03 16:42

    lies, lies, lies, lies ......................