Indonesian mayor seeks to ban churches

2011-08-23 13:00

Jakarta - An Indonesian mayor has proposed a decree that would ban Christian churches on streets with Islamic names.

The move is the latest attempt to block construction of a new church in the world's largest Muslim-majority country.

The Taman Yasmin Indonesian Christian Church was supposed to open in the city of Bogor in 2008, but residents protested, claiming its permit was illegal.

Though the Supreme Court ruled in favour of the parishioners in December, Mayor Diani Budiarto has so far refused to comply.

He's instead calling for a decree to make it illegal to open churches on streets with Islamic names.

Indonesia, a secular nation of 240 million, has a long history of religious tolerance, but an extremist fringe has become more vocal in recent years.

  • samaritan - 2011-08-23 13:25

    now that must be one of the dumbest things I heard to day

      j4truth - 2011-08-23 20:17

      Foolish man! He's inviting a Tsunami, Hurricane or floods to sort that cursed place out!

  • Messenger - 2011-08-23 13:29

    They say there is no discrimination against Christians in Muslim-majority countries, and they say their is no persecution of Christians in Muslim-majority countries. If this happens in secular Indonesia, who knows what happens in non-secular Islamic countries. Muslims, just honestly acknowledge this, please.

      Zee - 2011-08-23 13:52

      This is truly pathetic. Please do not accept this man's idiocity as a feeling amongst Muslims in general. The intolerance is astounding. He is a bigot, and thankfully in a minority.

      Matt :-) - 2011-08-23 14:03

      Luckily this is confined to just one man. If it actually got passed as law, that's another story... but yes, there is plenty persecution and I don't see the human rights groups leaping to our defence!

      Messenger - 2011-08-23 14:54

      This happens more often then most people realise, because the mainstream media does not always report on it.

      Andre - 2011-08-23 15:30

      If you realy want to find out, just try to take a Bible in to a Moslim country in the Middle East...

  • Dominic - 2011-08-23 14:51

    Ban all churches and mosques. These two middle-eastern religions seem to cause many more problems than they solve.

      Messenger - 2011-08-23 14:55

      Do you believe in basic human rights? Doesn't seem like it.

      GrimReaper1 - 2011-08-23 15:01

      lets ban you from having an opinion

      Dominic - 2011-08-23 15:30

      There are other religions which aren't used as an excuse for "holy" wars. Try a little free thinking or doesn't your religion allow it?

      Messenger - 2011-08-23 15:49

      Christians may not take part in any "holy wars". Oh, how I wish we could put this cliche to rest for good! Jesus did not lead or take part in any violent activities. Although some people wanted him to overthrow the Roman rule, He did not. He could, but He did not.

      Dominic - 2011-08-23 16:07

      Crusade, Intifada, Infidel, Heathen, even the unmentionable K-word are all symbols of Christian and Islamic religious intolerance.

      Messenger - 2011-08-23 16:18

      I said they MAY not ... didn't say they DO not.

      Matt :-) - 2011-08-23 16:50

      @ Dominic - I freely thought as an atheist and became a Christian as a result...

  • zaatheist - 2011-08-23 15:39

    I see that somebody had my comment deleted. So here we go again. Freedom of religion (and non belief) is a basic human right which needs to be protect at all costs. Extremist Muslims are very quick the scream "Islamaphobia" when some of their more shameful practices are highlighted, such as stoning adulterers, suppressing women's rights, attempting to enforce sharia on non-Muslims. This is to be expected as they are obviously insecure in their beliefs and their Allah is incapable of defending himself and his strictures and need militant earthly self-appointed representative as enforcers. They need to loosen up, read some books other than the Koran and live and let live.

      Messenger - 2011-08-23 15:56

      Yip, I saw your previous comment, thanked you for it, and then it disappeared. So again: Thanks, Zaatheist! For once I agree with you. :-)

      Zee - 2011-08-23 16:03

      Zaatheist - all religions have their nutters. Militant, self-appointed representatives? Agreed there are some mad Muslim nutters out there, but you could just as easily be talking about Israel and it's big brother here. Or the crusades. Or the crazy Norwegian dude.

      Matt :-) - 2011-08-23 16:47

      Wow! Thumbs-up for ZAAtheist

  • capetonian - 2011-08-23 16:11

    While you are about it - ban any monument to the non-existent sky fairy...!! "What can be asseted without evidence can be dismissed without proof"

      legens - 2011-08-23 16:14

      Richard Dawkins?

      Messenger - 2011-08-23 16:25

      It seems that atheists would also ban churches and give Christians a hard time, just like Islamists. It actually happened in the past, so it could happen again.

      legens - 2011-08-23 16:43

      wrong , messenger .we would ban religion and put the churches to better use ie housing ,shopping complexes etc

      Matt :-) - 2011-08-23 16:49

      @ Messenger - try to get hold of "Breakthrough" by Rudi Lack. It demonstrates what happened in atheist states in the 60s and 70s. The "ban them all" stance as some of the atheists on here cream over did actually happen. And once those regimes were toppled, the populations flocked to churches en masse

      Messenger - 2011-08-23 17:00

      Legens, if that is the case, then every Christian house will become a church. House churches will be the way to go. :-)

  • BrassCopper - 2011-08-23 16:31

    Is it just me or are these people more fanatical than any other religion… When they respect me – I will respect them; until that day …

  • Politicallycorrect - 2011-08-24 08:54

    Here in South Africa we should have a decree made that no mosques can be built in streets with Christian names and area's predominantely occupied by Christians!

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