Israel: Gaza ground attack plan on hold

2012-11-20 11:00

Jerusalem - Senior Israeli ministers decided overnight to hold off from launching a ground invasion of the Gaza Strip to give Egyptian-led truce efforts a chance to work, a senior Israeli official said on Tuesday.

"A decision was taken that for the time being there is a temporary hold on the ground incursion to give diplomacy a chance to succeed," he said following a late-night session of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's inner circle, the Forum of Nine.

"They discussed both the state of the diplomacy and the military operation," he said on condition of anonymity.

As an Egyptian ceasefire proposal appears to be emerging from indirect negotiations in Cairo between Israel and a Hamas team, a stream of top-level diplomats were expected to arrive in the region to throw their weight behind efforts to end the violence which on Tuesday entered its seventh day.

UN chief Ban Ki-moon is to meet Israeli President Shimon Peres on Tuesday evening and US officials said US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton would break away from an Asia visit to visit Israel, Egypt and the West Bank.

Palestinian officials said she was expected to visit Ramallah on Wednesday morning for talks with Palestinian president Mahmud Abbas.

  • mott.barge - 2012-11-20 11:11

    Why? Because you are cowards! You cannot fight face to face on the same turf as the Palestinians. Rememeber operation Cast Lead? You came in quick, lost 14 soldiers and then pulled out. Hezbollah gave you a hiding when you tried fighting them on the ground. You're like your Parent, the great USA stuck against the ragtag Taliban in Afghanistan for 12 years now. The big bullies Israel and America. Can only 'win' and fight and drop bombs from far and high up. Come down, go to them, who are equipped and trained far less than you, if you dare! O wait, you did. And you caught a hiding. You're still catching one in Afghanistan.

      wills24 - 2012-11-20 11:16

      Lol. And Hamas are known as war heroes are they not? Usually found behind a barrier of women or children, that is how they roll. I'm not in support of Israel, but in a street battle with no holds barred, it would not end well for Hamas.

      mott.barge - 2012-11-20 11:21

      @ wills24: We're not gonna find out now, are we? Hiding behind women and children wouldn't work cause if Israel can indiscriminately bomb them, then surely killing them when they're shields will be easier to justify?

      neutedop.opinie - 2012-11-20 11:28

      1417 Palestinians died, and 13 Israeli soldiers. Uhmmm, where do you get your quick 14 that died, and then pulled out?? You know s**t about please go read some, before attempting again to give an opinion.

      mott.barge - 2012-11-20 11:35

      How did those 13 die? Most in a few hours of combat during the ground incursion. How did 1417 die? During 20 days of bombardment. That's the point. Please argue the point. 14/13 ah come on man!

      dewaldmontgomery - 2012-11-20 11:39

      Isn't this funny? MottBarge - do you HONESTLY believe the nonsense you just wrote? Now tell us, exactly WHY is Israel "occupying" Palestine? Don't tell me they are invaders. Tell me exactly HOW it has happened, HOW it has come to be like that. O yes, and while we're at it, also tell us exactly what the result of the 1967 war was. And then, while you're at it, tell us why none of 11 Arab states have dared to 'wipe Israel of the face of the planet' yet. I mean, they've been threatening for YEARS. Looking forward to your completely scientific and sound response.

      jon.jones.90663894 - 2012-11-20 11:42

      Oh dearie me. Mutt tell us how many Jihadis were killed in Cast Lead. 700 plus. Killed in playgrounds , schools and mosques. How many Jihadis were killed in Lebanon ? 1400 oh dearie me. At any rate the Israelis are hardly cowards. Your lot are. If they are so brave tell me why Hamas and Hisbolla have not launched a ground invasion of Israel ?. I mean come on now. The best either of those two wackjob outfits can do is to shoot rockets from girls' schools and olive groves and then run for their pathetic lives so that civilians can get killed and then the bodies can be paraded through the streets with sobbing mothers and brothers cranking it out for the cameras. The Taliban as you know never ever fight out in the open. Always from under a skirt or within spitting distance of children. And still they die. How come so many Muslim commentators are screaming for the West to pull out of the Ghan if the Talibee are doing so well ?. Give my regards to Jeff , will you Mutt.

      mott.barge - 2012-11-20 11:46

      @ dewald. Yes you're right Dewald, the Arabs were defeated. I'm not saying Hamas would defeat Israel in urban warfare. I'm saying the Israelis will suffer casualties, and would definitely be pushed out of Gaza, or trapped in protracted warfare. Get it?

      dewaldmontgomery - 2012-11-20 13:05

      Ag man, any riot/war/protest has casualties. It doesn't make either party right or wrong. Fact is, there is not such a thing as a Palestinian - they are all direct descendants of the Jordanians who moved from the former Trans Jordan to Israel in pursuit of better living conditions. In case you forgot, the UN divided area into two - ISRAEL, and TRANS JORDAN (later known as just JORDAN). Just look at their flag. They really ARE Jordanians (in terms of heritage). The real inhabitants of the AREA known as Palestine has long been integrated in the modern day communities. As for a Palestinian, if these people are Palestinians, then the Hebrews are Palestinians too.

      KennySven - 2012-11-20 14:24

      Hamas have just received 50 new tanks with one forward gear and six reverse gears.

      andre.vandeventer.16 - 2012-11-20 15:11

      If the Israelis can go into Gaza without regard for unarmed citizens they will smash through Gaza from one side to the other killing everyone in Gaza. I must say there aren't really innocent people in Gaza except very young children because they are all tied in with these terrorist movements one way or the other!

  • neutedop.opinie - 2012-11-20 11:12

    But will Hamas stop their rockets? I doubt it. They want Israel to bring in ground forces, so their propaganda machine can kick in. They will, once again, sacrifice people, just to play the victim card. If they stop rockets, Israel will stop. When Israel offered Arafat 98% of the Gaza, he did not want it. When Israel gave back a piece, that meant Hamas could be closer to Israeli borders, and just shot from there. When Fatah won the Palestinian election, they started killing Fatah people - their own people. They do not want peace!!!!

      shaheen.seedat.334 - 2012-11-20 11:27

      Israel actually violated the original truce they brokered with Hamas two days after they assassinated the Jabari, with whom they brokered the deal. Netanyahu needs aggression in order to placate the electorate before elections, then he can be seen as the president who safeguards the Israelis

      neutedop.opinie - 2012-11-20 11:31

      Shaheen - he IS the president who safeguard the Israeli's. Even though he tolerated 500 rockets in the 2 days before the assasination. 500 Rockets, not aimed at any military target - aimed at anyone they can possibly fall on...

      dewaldmontgomery - 2012-11-20 11:41

      Except, rockets have been flying from Gaza for years now. Come on. If my neighbour's kids were throwing stones at my kids for years, I'd tell them after at some point in time: Throw some stones back.

      justin.sly.77 - 2012-11-20 12:24

      @shaheen, I am sorry but you are incorrect. The state of Israel does not negotiate with Hamas, they consider them a terrorist organisation. There was no negotiation between Hamas and Israel that you speak of.

      Desilusionada - 2012-11-20 13:07

      @shaheen.seedat.334 There's more available: You also have some broken fingers not being able to look it up? Your comment makes as much sense as wanting to believe that Obama wanted violence with Canada on their border, to win his election....

  • Carol Benater - 2012-11-20 11:17

    Mott Barge U R a Moron, do you want more bloodshed????

      mott.barge - 2012-11-20 11:23

      No. If all you nephews and nieces were killed in one strike, would you?

      neutedop.opinie - 2012-11-20 11:34

      Why did your nephews and nieces shield Hamas? And why did they not leave when Israel dropped leaflets to inform them that the building would be bombed?

      dewaldmontgomery - 2012-11-20 11:41

      As if only Palestinian people have been killed. Ever. Shame.

      mott.barge - 2012-11-20 11:47

      So me living here in good old ZA = shielding the ANC. As if.

      fred.fraser.12 - 2012-11-20 14:21

      Mott, you're allowing yourself to be manipulated by the few remaining unelected dictators in the region who are presenting Israel as a false enemy for their own internal political reasons. They're the real abusers. If they cared so much about the Palestinians, they would give them the few neighborhoods they need to call home from the vast land they control, instead of inciting them to attack Israel.

  • lulama.mkunqwana - 2012-11-20 11:26

    I cannot believe the comments made some people who clearly want more blood to be shed. Fact of the matter is Israel is butchering people with support from the West, who in fact created at the end of the Second world War Israel on Palestinian soil.So much for the chosen so called nation. What a shame.

      dewaldmontgomery - 2012-11-20 11:43

      Nonsense. You guys like to say in the case of Zimbabwe "It's a sovereign state. We won't interfere." Well, ISRAEL IS A SOVEREIGN STATE. STOP INTERFERING.

      Desilusionada - 2012-11-20 13:09

      @lorain.maseko So what "colour" is Israelis and what "colour" is the people living in Gaza? All shades of green?.........

      henry.justice.372 - 2012-11-20 13:33

      The UN split the area into 3 units tonsil. Israel for the Jews , gaza went to Egypt and the west bank and east Jerusalem went to Jordan.There was no palestine or palestinian soil. You say nothing of the thousands of rockets chucked at Israel over the last few years an focus on Israel "butchering" so called "people". What a shame you are a bigot and a history illiterate,OBE under your beloved anc no doubt along with their kinship for terrorists and the most vile people to curse the face of the planet.

      fred.fraser.12 - 2012-11-20 14:22

      You have to look a little deeper, and be a little smarter Lulama.

  • nisar.tiseker - 2012-11-20 11:28

    Forgive them father for they know not what they do - The victims always become the the victors in the short term but this leads to the destruction of their society in the long term - The Roman Empire fell after 100 years but it fell as a result of a violent and immoral society which was doomed from the start - This is destiny ....... - 2012-11-20 15:28

      and Hamas will fall :) Long Live Freedom, Long Live Democracy, Long Live Israel!

  • shakir.eddericks - 2012-11-20 11:37

    Palestinians were evicted from their own land with authorization from America and the UN just because of Holocaust guilt - youtube it - simple Land Grabbing - and extensions to Israel over the years to push the Palestinians to the surrounding Islands Hamas do not have an Equipped Military - they use home made Rockets & Stones etc which is why they make use of "Terrorist Tactics" if you do not know Google "Zionist Story and get clued up - its all about Jew establishing the states of Israel and pushing non Jews out, a form of Apartheid if you ask me

      neutedop.opinie - 2012-11-20 11:49

      So you read 1 website, and are now an expert. Dear Shakir, this histroy goes WAY past 1 website. It goes past the world war. It goes forward to the 6 day war, and everything in between. At least you are willing to read up, but do some more reading - from both sides.

      shakir.eddericks - 2012-11-20 12:17

      @neutedop.opinie - i do not appreciate your condescending remark! i have done my reading from Both Sides - and i maintain that Israel are wrong! over 2 million Palestinian civilians compared to the 1000 Israel civilians have died while Israel flourishes with support from the corrupt UN and the power of the Dollar

      henry.justice.372 - 2012-11-20 12:37

      Israel's population is 20% arab. Those are the arabs that didn't leave Israel when the arab nations surrouning Israel urged arabs to leave so that their armies could wipe out and exterminate the Jews/Zionists in 1947/48. The arabs that fled are now so called "palestinians". They are not welcome back in Israel,nor anywhere else it seems. Who wants a rabid dog as a pet around their children?

      jon.jones.90663894 - 2012-11-20 13:07

      Shakir Grads and Fajr rockets are supplied by Iran. The Qassam's are home made. All three of these are 'to whom it may concern' rockets. I know that you regard it as your Muslim duty to support Muslims regardless of the facts of any particular matter BUT have you considered for a moment the fact that by blindly supporting Hamas you are actually prolonging the agony of innocent Muslims in Gaza. Does that not bother you ?.

      shaheed.jattiem - 2012-11-20 15:45

      Isn't it strange that a nation that sufferred holacaust is today perpetuating genocide. Now that is SICK! Israel's actions are the biggest denial that the holacuast ever took place.

  • Carol Benater - 2012-11-20 11:52

    Mott, why r ur nieces and nephews there, u dont hide among civilians, u dont start a war till ur ppl have protected! Israel has gone out of their way to protect their ppl, had they not, how many Jews do u think would be laying dead right now if Israel did not protect them, Hamas does not care about their ppl!!!!

      mott.barge - 2012-11-20 14:05

      Long before Israel was formed, the Jews and Arabs co-existed peacefully

      fred.fraser.12 - 2012-11-20 14:42

      You're making that up Mott. It's just not true.

  • William - 2012-11-20 13:19

    Are all you Zionist supporters referring to these rocket attacks that Israeli television shows to their citizens and the world?

      William - 2012-11-20 14:52

      says the Supporter of Israel who was APARTHEID SOUTH AFRICA's biggest supporter and Financier <<< FACT

  • alan.ingram.355 - 2012-11-20 13:57

    viva Israel viva the Jews.....GODS people !!!

      fred.fraser.12 - 2012-11-20 14:24

      We're all "God's people". Obviously.

      dinesh.chetty.77 - 2012-11-20 14:33

      Israel = Apartheid Racist state. Do

      fred.fraser.12 - 2012-11-20 14:41

      Dinesh = being left behind by the new generation Middle East Muslims who have seen through the lies which he unfortunately hasn't yet.

      dinesh.chetty.77 - 2012-11-20 14:51

      I am a none Jew, None Choosen, not Special in any way, not Gods people, actually doomed people. A people without choosen land etc. Get my point people. Israel = Apartheid.

      henry.justice.372 - 2012-11-20 14:56

      @ Dinesh. The palestinians are not Israeli citizens. They are subject to the PLO and hamas. If they are in Israel illegaly they should be locked up or deported backk to "palestine". Israeli arabs have full equality and rights as Israeli Jews,Druze Xtians. They can vote ,use the same ablutions,same busses and courts,can sit in the same resturants,TOTAL equality. There is no apartheid against Israeli arabs. Palestinians get exactly what treatment they deserve. Some other nations would have just buried them all , lucky the Jews are G_d fearing people.

      ppisciotta - 2012-11-20 15:12

      Dinesh - like many, if not most Blacks you have a "pity party" about yourself. Grow up. No one owes you anything. Get over yourself and get a job. Look at the Jewish People - they have survived as a People for thousands of years. Why can't your people do the same? You answer that question for yourself. But do NOT blame others because of your situation.

      phathuchicos - 2012-11-20 15:17

      another brainless clown on the loose...

  • phathuchicos - 2012-11-20 14:54

    Do you know that Benyamin Netanyahu and Assad are friends on Facebook.. they shares one thing besides their religious difference...a passion for bombing innocent civilians while telling the world that they are terrorists. Any jew that supports Netyanyahu's unforgivable disgusting treatment towards Gaza and Westbank civilians should consider supporting Assad as well...sis

      ppisciotta - 2012-11-20 15:06

      Gifted & Black? Really? 35% passing Matric or less I recon. Yea "Gifted" for sure. I saw your FB profile "Angry...." ? What are you angry about? Because you are Black? Get over it and make something of yourself. Or else you'll be picking your nose for food all the days of your life.

      henry.justice.372 - 2012-11-20 15:10

      @ PAP The angry azanian he used to be called. He's extra "clever" or "special". PS angry azanian, azania is a geographical term for east africa , there is no place called azania,or "palestine" for that matter boy

      phathuchicos - 2012-11-20 15:26

      PAP what a SA i bet you were a hooker that got hooked into USA in search of the way how is hooking business that side? for the record I am an engineer unlike you brainless clown that got tugged by a man to America abandoning your home...sic - 2012-11-20 15:31

      another brainless clown on the loose...

  • thaluki.malema - 2012-11-20 15:15

    It's a pity, the Israeli's have yet again been convinced by the USA to start with dialogue. These Hamas terrorists who fire rockets onto civilians and hold their own woman & children as human shields should all be annihilated and wiped off the face of the earth.

      phathuchicos - 2012-11-20 15:30

      do you know that Hamas was elected by the people to lead...just like what your parents did back when they chose to support ANC, PAC AND etc(that were declared terrorist movements by then minority government)...dont forget where you come from before you open your mouth.

      dinesh.chetty.77 - 2012-11-20 15:44

      Thaluki - I would be very careful who I support and don't. Please remember this same Israel gave the Aparheid government in South Africa weapon to kill innorcent black freedom fighters. They also called us terrorist, when we where just orginary people wanting equal rights. PLO gave ANC guns. Israel gave those racist guns to kill our children in South Africa. The list of freedom fighters killed with Israel weapon goes into the thousands here in South Africa. They even helped the NATS they Nuclear weapons here in SA. Watch who you trust.

  • dinesh.chetty.77 - 2012-11-20 15:19

    PAP, you actually make yourself a fool, when you assume things about people. By the way I do have job, degree, business and a couple million of rand. I have the respect from my community, unlike you who abandoned you communitee and ran to America. I also think I owe the world and not the other way around. What type of person would I be if I didn't at least express my

  • Hakuna - 2012-11-20 15:48

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