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Israel OKs call-up of up to 75 000 reservists

2012-11-16 23:11

Jerusalem - The Israeli cabinet on Friday night gave its green light for the recruitment of up to 75 000 reservists, Channel 2 television said, amid signs that Israel was gearing up for a ground offensive in Gaza.

The decision was taken in a phone vote which was carried out as Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu held talks at the defence ministry in Tel Aviv with his inner circle, the Forum of Nine, the channel reported.

In practice, it means that up to 75 000 reserve soldiers can be drafted into action by the military at any point, as Israel appeared set to expand its relentless air campaign against Gaza militants.

As darkness fell, the Hamas-run enclave hunkered down for a third night of Israeli bombardment which began on Wednesday with an air strike which killed a top Hamas commander, unleashing a new and deadly round of bloody mayhem.

And the Israeli army moved to seal off roads around Gaza as AFP correspondents reported a growing build-up of military hardware and reserve forces along the Gaza border.

"Cabinet Secretary Zvi Hauser has started to conduct a phone vote among government ministers for approval to recruit 75 000 reserve soldiers," the cabinet secretary wrote on his official Facebook page as Netanyahu began three hours of talks with his inner circle.

As the violence spiralled on Friday with a rocket hitting the sea off Tel Aviv and another landing in the West Bank near Jerusalem, Israel geared up for an expansion of its campaign, sending call-up papers to 16 000 reservists.

A day earlier, Defence Minister Ehud Barak had approved the call-up of 30 000 reserve soldiers, but on Friday, the defence ministry said he had decided to further expand the quota.

"Today, Defence Minister Ehud Barak authorised the IDF to expand its quota of reservists beyond the originally allocated amount," the ministry said, and a spokesman confirmed he was looking to increase the number beyond 30 000.

Such a move has to be approved by Israel's 14-member security cabinet.

"We are preparing all the military options, including the possibility that forces will be ready to enter Gaza in the event that the firing doesn't stop," warned senior cabinet minister Moshe Yaalon late on Thursday.

"Whoever continues attacking us, his blood will be on his own head."

On Friday evening, the military said it had sealed off all the main roads around the Gaza Strip, declaring the area to be a closed military zone.

"There is a closed military zone in the area," a spokesperson told AFP, saying that route 232, route 10 and part of route 4 had all been sealed off.

"These are the main routes around the Gaza Strip and they have been closed to traffic," he confirmed.

Comments
  • giles.lord.5 - 2012-11-16 23:16

    So dad that in this day and age this type of warfare is called for. My heart goes out to these young guys.

      mikel.kiparski - 2012-11-16 23:26

      a very costly affair ,,,i wonder what the return on investment will be,,,

      PrettyUsefulArt - 2012-11-16 23:52

      Ag Giles, I agree. That sound you're hearing is my heart breaking - for the innocent civilians on both sides of the fence.

      christopher.shining - 2012-11-17 00:01

      Israelis are the most sorted out people when it omes to warfare. As children they grew up in 'classes' to fight for there country...I would love that to happen here...because Israel is for the minority white South Africans, and with there backing we can destroy this sad government.Thats waht this government do not undertand us that we have people for a true democracy behind us. I know a good fe Israelians that live here, and will support us...

      phaldiemeyer - 2012-11-17 00:25

      Giles.lord.... I think shining has got a crush on you. :-)

      chris.summers.3954 - 2012-11-17 00:33

      Fully agree with you, youngsters on both sides trying to kill each other right now, experiencing that terror in support of extremist causes on either side. @Christopher. How about you fly to Israel and do your service, pick up a rifle and put you money where your mouth is? As opposed to sitting on your fat ar$e blogging about those Israeli heavies you supposedly know who will support your white people revolution in SA.

      doug.norris.581 - 2012-11-17 01:59

      Mikel Kiparski The payback? For the Palestinians, if they lose they withdraw, and continue fighting tomorrow. For the Israelis, if they lose, that will be the end of Israel. It's easy to see which side has the biggest stake in the outcome of a conflict.

  • giles.lord.5 - 2012-11-16 23:17

    So dad that in this day and age this type of warfare is called for. My heart goes out to these young guys.

      frederick.kaczynski - 2012-11-17 00:15

      75 000 troops for Gaza!? yea right... hold on to your hats ladies and gents.

      devon.riley.52 - 2012-11-17 05:12

      Sounds like another potential WW3 situation. If this escalates and Iran get's involved directly, and then China and Russia vs Nato, its gonna get ugly

      malcolm.j.patterson.1 - 2012-11-17 08:47

      Yes Devon and so the prophecy of the Bible will be fulfilled when east meets west on the plains of Megiddo

  • christopher.shining - 2012-11-16 23:46

    I would go!! And thats why they going, because maybe we as South AFricans should do the same against this f**ked up government...UPRISE.... over this bullsh*t theis government is doing to us...F**k them!

      a.j.bosch - 2012-11-17 06:11

      Christopher, from your post it either seems as if you are in grade 3 or have been dropped on your head. Either way they would not accept you if you went. Send me your bank details AND password and I'll deposit the money for the plane ticket into your account.

      art5SA - 2012-11-17 06:39

      Christopher.... I DOUBT you understand what it takes to fight a war!!!! Stop with this WAR MONGORING.... and use that thing called a BRAIN... War is not PRETTY.... THINK BEFORE YOU POST!

      vaatjie.vanderwatt - 2012-11-17 07:12

      @phaldick israelis arses handed back to them on a plate??? Youve got absolutely no idea mate. If your ignorance of the Israeli capabilities was not so hugely sad and pathetic, I would think that you were being sarcastic... This is not a game of cowboys and indians you played when you were six years old, which, if I look at your comments, was about three years ago... The guns make a noise now, not you. Sit back and prepare to eat your words.

      Rudolf - 2012-11-17 07:13

      Granted- It may not be pretty, but him who thinks he is going to "talk" his way out from under this filthy, corrupt anc government should have his head examined. Yes war is not pretty (I know that better than most) - but if my choices are between being brutally murdered in a home invasion, or being able to defend myself on the field of battle against a clearly defined enemy - my choice is MADE. Israel - You have my support.

      raymond.dick.12 - 2012-11-17 08:50

      Christopher, I feel your frustration with the cANCer. War however must be the very last resort. You have a mechanism to get rid of the cANCer; vote them out. Try and get everyone you know to do the same!

  • goldd.goldfinger - 2012-11-16 23:55

    Lets wait and see for the dead bodies to pile humanity suffers whilst ideologies are zealously pursued from both sides..

  • tlou.andries.58 - 2012-11-16 23:59

    R those soldiers going to kill the innocent ppl/wat?i really feel 4 them coz they dont no nothing.

      art5SA - 2012-11-17 06:42

      "...coz they don't know nothing"?????? Brilliant grammar @ tlou...

      tommy.jones.754918 - 2012-11-17 06:58

      Don't no nothing....probably should read "Don't know nothing", which is a double negative, which means they actually "Know everything". Dude/Duddette, please read before you post.

  • joy.clark.794628 - 2012-11-17 01:29

    There is probably an election coming up in Israel. Time to murder a few Palestinians.

      mawandewonderman.mkuba - 2012-11-17 06:24

      You got tht right brother

      Rudolf - 2012-11-17 07:40

      Your way of thinking had me puzzelled there for a second joy, and then it hit me as to what your framemof reference is- it is exactely what is being done in THIS country! Just before election a couple of (more that usual) farmers are murdured, to show the masses that the farms are being cleared for 'them', and statements like "go steal from the whites" are made in the public media... So i hear where you are coming from, but keep in mind that Israel does not play by third world barbaric short sighted consume and lay waste- rules. Unlike what we have "here", they can think, reason, decide on the best course of action for all their people.....

      fred.fraser.12 - 2012-11-17 21:44

      Israel was created in 1948 from 52% of the land formerly occupied by the Jewish and Palestinian people, and Palestine 43%. Most of the Israeli territory was the Negev Desert. Jerusalem fell into neither territory. Palestinians with their unelected, self-serving neighbors declared war on Israel the very next day. In the 1960's they even invaded Israel twice. Full military invasions. The result: Israel survived and pushed them back, gaining territory in the process. This is the origin of what you wrongly call "stealing land". There have been almost daily attacks by Palestinians, incited by their self-serving unelected backers. Palestinians even teach their children at Kindergarten to attack Israel, rather than be peaceful. Children. Kindergarten. From day one, and even today it's wage war on Israel. Israel defends herself. Yes sometimes going too far, which is unacceptable, but self-defense nonetheless. All that needs to happen is for Palestinians to choose peace side by side with Israel. This is more likely going forward now because the unelected dictators are being removed from power by their people one by one. They will no longer use the Palestinians for their own internal political ploys.

  • sias.wagener - 2012-11-17 01:47

    At least Israel has more guts than any other nation. If their security is under threat thet wikll fight to preserve it.

      devon.riley.52 - 2012-11-17 05:18

      All Israels neighbours have been trying to destroy them since 1947. They have no choice but to occupy areas of strategic defence importance if they wish to survive.

  • thunder.clap.587 - 2012-11-17 05:13

    All those supporting Zionist Apartheid Israel must leave S.A. immediately. Go to your so called promised land...numb nuts.

      dbo.kacebisa - 2012-11-17 05:23

      You are right if they wanna support their apartheid state they should go there and stop commenting here. These MFs

      devon.riley.52 - 2012-11-17 05:39

      Go screw yourself, who do you think you are?

      thunder.clap.587 - 2012-11-17 05:46

      As a matter of fact you shall leave,S.A government won't tolerate apartheid supporters.

      dbo.kacebisa - 2012-11-17 05:58

      I know who am I. I just wonder if you know who you are and where you belong

      Rudolf - 2012-11-17 09:15

      dbo- One of those who will throw old motor oil in the nearest river or drain - and if you ask him where he thinks clean drinking water comes from he will answer "you racist white, it comes from the tap"... And electricity comes from the cable, and why doesnt he have it as well.... I just shake my head....

      gary.scott.9828456 - 2012-11-17 14:46

      Take a hike to Syria

      andries.d.plessis.9 - 2012-11-17 16:49

      Make us leave...my boy

      fred.fraser.12 - 2012-11-17 21:44

      Israel was created in 1948 from 52% of the land formerly occupied by the Jewish and Palestinian people, and Palestine 43%. Most of the Israeli territory was the Negev Desert. Jerusalem fell into neither territory. Palestinians with their unelected, self-serving neighbors declared war on Israel the very next day. In the 1960's they even invaded Israel twice. Full military invasions. The result: Israel survived and pushed them back, gaining territory in the process. This is the origin of what you wrongly call "stealing land". There have been almost daily attacks by Palestinians, incited by their self-serving unelected backers. Palestinians even teach their children at Kindergarten to attack Israel, rather than be peaceful. Children. Kindergarten. From day one, and even today it's wage war on Israel. Israel defends herself. Yes sometimes going too far, which is unacceptable, but self-defense nonetheless. All that needs to happen is for Palestinians to choose peace side by side with Israel. This is more likely going forward now because the unelected dictators are being removed from power by their people, one by one. They will no longer use the Palestinians for their own internal political ploys.

  • erick.birdy - 2012-11-17 05:26

    This is only a continuation of an age old religious war between Islam and the Jews. This will never end because religion is the root cause of all evil. If in doubt read Isaiha 45:7 (KJV)

      doberman.love.1 - 2012-11-17 07:50

      Not true. In the same way as Muslims and Hindus are killing each other in India/Pakistan, or Muslims destroying Buddha sculptress in Afghanistan and killing Buddhists in Thailand and south east Asia. Muslims killing Christians in Nigeria, Sudan, Egypt... Or gays being hung in Iran and Saudi. There is no place on earth where racism and discrimination is as institutionalized as it is in the Muslim world against Christians, Jews, Hindu, Buddhist, no believers like me, women and gays. Truth is Israel is on the front line... Thus the headlines.

  • Fundile Lallo - 2012-11-17 05:36

    Thanks Rhyno Meyer. You said it all.

      thunder.clap.587 - 2012-11-17 05:58

      Y dnt u say ur mind Fundi coz dat nut said nothing of worth

      dbo.kacebisa - 2012-11-17 06:23

      Talk to us Findile I'll love to know whats on your mind instead of seconding hogwash

      rhyno.meyer - 2012-11-17 10:03

      Why don't you tell me why I am a nut?I see you don't have the intellectual properties to confront me in a conversation,you however choose to call me insulting names because you have no guts!you are as big a coward as the people you support just because you think you can also then be part of you're own 'struggle'!prove what I said wrong and stop throwing insults!hopefully I gave you a bit of a life lesson and taught you sum good manners as I can see you're parents didn't do a good job of teaching you anything of worth!I hope you find jesus christ before its to late!it will enrich you're life

  • Gcodi Mahomed - 2012-11-17 06:01

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  • Muffin_man_can - 2012-11-17 06:10

    May the Lord God almighty guide and protect you Israel, you are His chosen people. Shalom

      dbo.kacebisa - 2012-11-17 06:17

      Ooops. So we are not His children?

      michael.jackwood - 2012-11-17 06:26

      Thats racism and segregation statement you are making, they are the only chosen ones to be what?

      Muffin_man_can - 2012-11-17 06:33

      The truth is a two edged sword, it hurts and offends those that despise it.

      hudayfah.newman - 2012-11-17 06:41

      Chosen? Sounds like some matrix world. Seems they weren't so chosen when hitler got hold of them.

      erick.birdy - 2012-11-17 07:48

      ziyaad, You are the one that is talking BS! Go and read the old testament and see how many children and people were killed by your GOD!!

      erick.birdy - 2012-11-17 08:01

      khethu, You are yust as stupid. Hitler supported an Arian (pure white) race! Do not show your lack of intelligence here!

      dave.kofang - 2012-11-17 08:03

      @Muffin are you now telling us we are just waisting our time by praying Him?

      doberman.love.1 - 2012-11-17 08:03

      Our farmers support Israeli technology that is used to grow almost all the fruit and veg you get in Pn'P, checkers, spar, woollies and veg city.... Maybe you should boycott Israel and stop eating your greens. And throw away your phone... And your computer as Microsoft, apple, intel, Facebook, google, IBM imply more Israelis per capita then our own huge mining sector. And your banking security in standard, fnb, absa, investec, and nedbank is blue and white. And when you sick, avoid hospitals because there is more Israeli goods and services there then any other place axcept for Israel itself.

      asivhanga - 2012-11-17 08:04

      Hey Muffin, almighty god you refering to almighty Bush...? hehehe...

      goldd.goldfinger - 2012-11-17 09:10

      So what is the point of the rest of the world praying to this God...and your God is implicit in the death of Palestinian children..is this what your loving God wants..

  • raymond.buis.3 - 2012-11-17 06:11

    What happened last time? The seven day war . Israel kicked the s*** out of all the aggressors in that one and now these people want to test Israel again? Hope the Palestinians are ready to get beaten like a week dead cat. Israel has one of the best military's in the world in terms of training and equipment, and when it comes to urban and desert warfare there is no one better than them.

      dbo.kacebisa - 2012-11-17 06:29

      So they are the best hey. Thats why they piss on a little man...try Iran and julle sal julle gat sien

      thunder.clap.587 - 2012-11-17 06:57

      Zionist Israel real enemy is Iran but they r scared as sheet,Iran will wipe Israel off the map n make life of Israel supporters (U.S) a living hell. Wat l like is Iran is sending troops to Gaza as in now.

      erick.birdy - 2012-11-17 08:03

      Another stupid remark from khethu!

      rhyno.meyer - 2012-11-17 09:38

      Ag shame!all you uneducated idiots and non believers!do you realy think iran wil do anything to isreal??isreal was a country for a few days and they were atacked by neighbouring countries and they beat them without any army!then later they were atacked again and they beat up their enemies!so dream on!

      morne.demeillon - 2012-11-17 09:44

      Khethu, if Hitler was here you would off been lined up with the Jews, and not as a Gypsy but as an Tsotsi!

  • gcodi.mahomed - 2012-11-17 06:28

    "Ahmed Jabari was a subcontractor, in charge of maintaining Israel's security in Gaza. This title will no doubt sound absurd to anyone who in the past several hours has heard Jabari described as "an arch-terrorist," "the terror chief of staff" or "our Bin Laden." "But that was the reality for the past five and a half years. Israel demanded of Hamas that it observe the truce in the south and enforce it on the multiplicity of armed organizations in the Gaza Strip. The man responsible for carrying out this policy was Ahmed Jabari. "In return for enforcing the quiet, which was never perfect, Israel funded the Hamas regime through the flow of shekels in armoured trucks to banks in Gaza, and continued to supply infrastructure and medical services to the inhabitants of the Gaza Strip. Jabari was also Israel's partner in the negotiations for the release of Gilad Shalit; it was he who ensured the captive soldier's welfare and safety, and it was he who saw to Shalit's return home last fall."[xiii] So, why did Israel kill the man they worked so closely with? "Now Israel is saying that its subcontractor did not do his part and did not maintain the promised quiet on the southern border. The repeated complaint against him was that Hamas did not succeed in controlling the other organizations, even though it is not interested in escalation. After Jabari was warned openly (Amos Harel and Avi Issacharoff reported here at the beginning of this week that the assassination of top Hamas people would be renewed), he was executed on Wednesday in a public assassination action, for which Israel hastened to take responsibility. The message was simple and clear: You failed – you're dead."

      fred.fraser.12 - 2012-11-17 21:45

      Israel was created in 1948 from 52% of the land formerly occupied by the Jewish and Palestinian people, and Palestine 43%. Most of the Israeli territory was the Negev Desert. Jerusalem fell into neither territory. Palestinians with their unelected, self-serving neighbors declared war on Israel the very next day. In the 1960's they even invaded Israel twice. Full military invasions. The result: Israel survived and pushed them back, gaining territory in the process. This is the origin of what you wrongly call "stealing land". There have been almost daily attacks by Palestinians, incited by their self-serving unelected backers. Palestinians even teach their children at Kindergarten to attack Israel, rather than be peaceful. Children. Kindergarten. From day one, and even today it's wage war on Israel. Israel defends herself. Yes sometimes going too far, which is unacceptable, but self-defense nonetheless. All that needs to happen is for Palestinians to choose peace side by side with Israel. This is more likely going forward now because the unelected dictators are being removed from power by their people, one by one. They will no longer use the Palestinians for their own internal political ploys.

  • gcodi.mahomed - 2012-11-17 06:44

    "Ahmed Jabari was a subcontractor, in charge of maintaining Israel's security in Gaza. This title will no doubt sound absurd to anyone who in the past several hours has heard Jabari described as "an arch-terrorist," "the terror chief of staff" or "our Bin Laden." "But that was the reality for the past five and a half years. Israel demanded of Hamas that it observe the truce in the south and enforce it on the multiplicity of armed organizations in the Gaza Strip. The man responsible for carrying out this policy was Ahmed Jabari. "In return for enforcing the quiet, which was never perfect, Israel funded the Hamas regime through the flow of shekels in armoured trucks to banks in Gaza, and continued to supply infrastructure and medical services to the inhabitants of the Gaza Strip. Jabari was also Israel's partner in the negotiations for the release of Gilad Shalit; it was he who ensured the captive soldier's welfare and safety, and it was he who saw to Shalit's return home last fall."[xiii] So, why did Israel kill the man they worked so closely with? "Now Israel is saying that its subcontractor did not do his part and did not maintain the promised quiet on the southern border. The repeated complaint against him was that Hamas did not succeed in controlling the other organizations, even though it is not interested in escalation. After Jabari was warned openly (Amos Harel and Avi Issacharoff reported here at the beginning of this week that the assassination of top Hamas people would be renewed), he was executed on Wednesday in a public assassination action, for which Israel hastened to take responsibility. The message was simple and clear: You failed – you're dead."

      Dogmaticmad - 2012-11-17 07:14

      @ gcodi, Osama Bin Ladin was a ally of the American as well. In fact he was trained by the Americans. Why did they take him out, simple he strayed and could no longer be trusted? He bit the hand that was feeding him. Hamas follow the same rhetoric. The Pakistanni's are the same. The money they receive from the USA they use against the USA. Traitors, all of 'em.

      fred.fraser.12 - 2012-11-17 21:46

      Israel was created in 1948 from 52% of the land formerly occupied by the Jewish and Palestinian people, and Palestine 43%. Most of the Israeli territory was the Negev Desert. Jerusalem fell into neither territory. Palestinians with their unelected, self-serving neighbors declared war on Israel the very next day. In the 1960's they even invaded Israel twice. Full military invasions. The result: Israel survived and pushed them back, gaining territory in the process. This is the origin of what you wrongly call "stealing land". There have been almost daily attacks by Palestinians, incited by their self-serving unelected backers. Palestinians even teach their children at Kindergarten to attack Israel, rather than be peaceful. Children. Kindergarten. From day one, and even today it's wage war on Israel. Israel defends herself. Yes sometimes going too far, which is unacceptable, but self-defense nonetheless. All that needs to happen is for Palestinians to choose peace side by side with Israel. This is more likely going forward now because the unelected dictators are being removed from power by their people, one by one. They will no longer use the Palestinians for their own internal political ploys.

      fred.fraser.12 - 2012-11-17 21:46

      Regarding the US creating Al-Quaida, this is another delusional and uninformed belief. The Soviet Union invaded Afghanistan in the 1980's as part of its ongoing plans to impose Soviet Communism on the rest of the world. The US assisted Afghan fighters to repel the Soviets and was successful in doing so. Most of the Afghans were from the Northern Front, unconnected to the Taliban and Jihadists. Some Taliban and Osama Bin Laden, who had been ejected from Saudi Arabia because of his ultra-extreme views, were however among those assisted by the US. Osama Bin Laden then went on to form Al-Quaida several years later. The US had long left Afghanistan. Bin Laden declared war on the West because Saudi Arabia had allowed Nato to use its bases to repel Saddam Hussein's invasion of Kuwait. That was in 1992. For years the US did virtually nothing, allowing Al-Quaida to get stronger, even after being directly attacked several times, such as in the first World Trade Center bombing, and the bombing of the US Cole. Al-Quaida carried out suicide attacks in various other parts of the world, including Africa. 9/11 happened and the US and much of the world was then spurred into action. To suggest the US created Al-Quaida is like saying Soweto High School is responsible when one of its chemistry students plants a home-made bomb at a shopping mall.

  • tlou.andries.58 - 2012-11-17 06:45

    Where is Benjamin Netanyahu?-He is in Mauritius relaxing in a 5 star hotel looking at the Plasma TV while innocent ppl r killed.

      rhyno.meyer - 2012-11-17 09:18

      Ziyaad!you have it totaly wrong!he might be suffering now,but you and you're fellow muslim lovers and jew haters wil be the ones suffering for the rest of eternity when Jesus comes!give you're heart to the lord and he wil save you!

      gary.scott.9828456 - 2012-11-17 14:56

      Ziyaad, Where is Qaddafi, killed by his own people. Where is Mubarak, languishing in some hell hole in Egypt. Where is Assad, eating sumptuous meals in his place while his country burns and his muslim army slaughters muslims civilians. And you guys are frothing at the mouth about Israel. Since when has other Arab countries ever cared about the Palestinian refugees in their own country. They are still living in refugee camps in Lebanon for 60 years.

      gary.scott.9828456 - 2012-11-17 15:03

      Ziyaad, Arab Israelis, who are muslim enjoy full rights as citizens of Israel. tell you what, go an conduct a poll and ask those Arab Israelis if they would rather go and live in any muslim nation. I would guess that 100% of them would laugh in your face. Can't see any of them locating to Syria

  • Rashida Patel - 2012-11-17 06:56

    Apartheid israel with super war machines and american warmonger by its side wants to fight with poor palestinians who defend home and family with hand made rockets! David and goliath !

      markus.esterhuyse - 2012-11-17 07:26

      And the easter bunny is real! The truth will be shouted of the roof tops! Hamas uses fire crackers and pop guns! They use women and children as shields and hit innocent victims with their hand made rockets!

      fred.fraser.12 - 2012-11-17 21:47

      One group of people resented and opposed the creation of an Israeli homeland for the Jewish people after the horrors of World War II, notwithstanding that the amount of land was a tiny, minuscule slither relative to their vast lands, and Jewish people had inhabited that land for millennia. Guess which group that was, and is.

  • vandeventer.sarel - 2012-11-17 06:59

    Most of u dont know the real history about israel. Most of israel were owned by rich arabs before 1948. Jews then started a fund called the jewish nasional fund. They bought the land duran by duran from those rich arabs. Lots of that land were unhabitable, but they transformed it with hard work and lots of money. When israel got their hands on most of the land they registered as a country at the leaque of nations. After that the arab and islamic nations started war against them. Israel pushed them back and claimed more land. Arabs and islams should accept it was their own stupidity that started this.

  • vandeventer.sarel - 2012-11-17 07:00

    Most of u dont know the real history about israel. Most of israel were owned by rich arabs before 1948. Jews then started a fund called the jewish nasional fund. They bought the land duran by duran from those rich arabs. Lots of that land were unhabitable, but they transformed it with hard work and lots of money. When israel got their hands on most of the land they registered as a country at the leaque of nations. After that the arab and islamic nations started war against them. Israel pushed them back and claimed more land. Arabs and islams should accept it was their own stupidity that started this.

  • neil.zive - 2012-11-17 07:30

    The media is completely bias. The violence did not start with the Israeli assassination of a terrorist it. That action was taken after over 130 rockets were fired on Israeli civilians by Hamas over the weekend. The media is guilty of cheap propaganda against Israel. What a bunch of liars.

      Sharon Gien-Cambier - 2012-11-17 07:59

      They are such cowards they are posting pictures of dead children and of them holding dead children....THAT WERE MURDERED IN SYRIA! And then they cry look at what the Zionists did. Unfortunately blind people believe what they want to c and make fools of themselves. At least there are a few newspapers that print the truth. Israel has been very patient to wait this long.

      doberman.love.1 - 2012-11-17 08:15

      100% correct. But they are blinded by hate and will not remember the fact are only two weeks old. Madiba and Martin Luther King supported Israel... I wonder why.

      glen.e.huysamer - 2012-11-26 13:13

      We know....

  • neil.zive - 2012-11-17 07:38

    When you idiots call Israel an apartheid state you just show your complete ignorance. If it wasn't so scary it would be funny. Your hate is for us is a product of the Palestinian lies and propoganda. I pity your ignorance but understand that the powerful propoganda is working.

      gary.scott.9828456 - 2012-11-17 15:13

      I wonder how many Arab muslim citizens of Israel would rather go and live in a muslim nation, perhaps Syria. I do not think there would be a single one. Israel gives full and complete citizen rights to Arab Israelis. I wonder how many Jews in Arab countries are afforded the same - zero would be my guess - oh right there are none, they were all kicked out or killed long ago

      mike.down.5492 - 2012-11-17 15:18

      http://www.baba-mail.com/Content_285/Pat_condell_and_the_fools_who_support_Palestine.aspx

  • neil.zive - 2012-11-17 07:43

    Judging from the comments here moat of you are antisemites. You are against Israel because you hate Jews. Thanks for your honesty. Israel will not be destroyed by your pathetic lies. You are all cowards.

      jon.jones.90663894 - 2012-11-17 08:05

      Neil please do not spend time on these pages at a time like this. The Jew hating losers all congregate here and spew in panic because they know that lots and lots of their ilk are in for a bad time. Most normal rational humane reasonable thinking non Jews support and bless Israel. Shalom Gava.

  • neil.zive - 2012-11-17 07:45

    It is amazing how you Jew haters don't let the actual facts get in the way of your lies.

      reg.nagel - 2012-11-17 09:44

      Viva ISRAEL Viva JEWS!!!

  • markus.esterhuyse - 2012-11-17 07:46

    This land was promised to Abraham, Isaac and Jacob by God! No man will take it from the Jews! Those who curse the Jews will be cursed and those who bless the Jews will be blessed! Hamas are cowering amongst women and children shooting rockets at innocent families in Israel! NO NATION WILL TAKE THE LAND FROM THE JEWISH NATION, GOD will protect them Yahweh. Curse at your own peril!!

      neil.zive - 2012-11-17 07:50

      Well said and thank you for your support.

      bilo.ebi - 2012-11-17 13:32

      Well, Jesus cursed them , just read the Bible.so according to your logic God curses Jesus. Typical illogical Christian

  • neil.zive - 2012-11-17 07:48

    " we can forgive the Arabs for killing our children but we cannot forgive them for making us kill theirs" Golda Meir

      doberman.love.1 - 2012-11-17 08:19

      Sad but true... But don't forget the majority of the free world is with you, we just remain silent for we know the truth so there is no reason to screem.

      bilo.ebi - 2012-11-17 13:43

      Well robbers generally react violently when u try and prevent them. Does any1 really equate their violence to \ the victim made me do it\

  • neil.zive - 2012-11-17 07:48

    "There will only be peace when the Arab mothers love their children more than they hate us" Golda Meir

  • ktheron2 - 2012-11-17 08:16

    Israel is going nowhere. It won't be wiped off the face of the Earth. The sooner the Palestinians, Iranians, and all their supporters realize that hard fact, the better for all. Get real, get over yourselves, and recognize Israel's right to exist in peace.

  • erick.birdy - 2012-11-17 08:22

    Ziyaad, thunder and khethu are trolls!!!

  • scholesss - 2012-11-17 11:00

    'who ever continue attacking israel, the blood will be on his head,' the sir has said

  • cellexpert - 2012-11-17 11:32

    i see people are talking stupid really. some are supporting Israel and some palestine. wait wait wait its not only about 2 countries fighting. look at the facts what gona happen after . i can cause really world war 3. some of you people have never seen what happened in WW2 and neither me but if you read you'll surprised. welll i don't want WW3 i wana live and wana see my family i wana see my friends and i wana see my kids growing. people please shut your mouth and get unite and talk some sensible words to save the world.

  • spiekeries - 2012-11-17 13:01

    21 December 2012 is around the corner......

  • bilo.ebi - 2012-11-17 13:37

    @Markus : Jesus cursed the Jews just read the Bible, so according to your logic , God curses Jesus. Typical illogical Christian.

      rhyno.meyer - 2012-11-17 14:02

      You don't know you're bible,so don't spread lies about Jesus and God!jesus did not curse the jewish people,he was disappointed in them but he came to earth and he knew exactly what was going toe happen to him!he never complained or tried to change it!so don't act as though you read the bible,because if you did you would know that jesus himself is also jewish born!

      bilo.ebi - 2012-11-17 14:52

      Well there are a whole list of Christian Leaders who disagree with your interpretation of cursing , as being disappointed including Paul ,previous popes and the entire collection of Christian sects who were unanamously cursing the Jews up until recent times when it became politically incorrect to denounce the 'Christ killers' ( even Martin Luther had a few choice words for the chosen , which even you will not be able to interpret as disapponted)

      ali.asgar.58323 - 2012-11-17 18:06

      U are spot on bilo ebi. No use debating these fanatics. They are hell bent on their wrong. The verse refers to the prophet Jacob may GOD be pleased with him. Israel was the other name for prophet Jacob and not this usurping,racist,apartheid,murderous entity called israel.

      fred.fraser.12 - 2012-11-17 21:49

      One group of people resented and opposed the creation of an Israeli homeland for the Jewish people after the horrors of World War II, notwithstanding that the amount of land was a tiny, minuscule slither relative to their vast lands, and Jewish people had inhabited that land for millennia. Guess which group that was, and is.

  • ali.asgar.58323 - 2012-11-17 18:00

    ISRAEL IS AN APARTHEID state. 75 000 apartheid soldiers off to HELL.

      fred.fraser.12 - 2012-11-17 21:49

      Israel was created in 1948 from 52% of the land formerly occupied by the Jewish and Palestinian people, and Palestine 43%. Most of the Israeli territory was the Negev Desert. Jerusalem fell into neither territory. Palestinians with their unelected, self-serving neighbors declared war on Israel the very next day. In the 1960's they even invaded Israel twice. Full military invasions. The result: Israel survived and pushed them back, gaining territory in the process. This is the origin of what you wrongly call "stealing land". There have been almost daily attacks by Palestinians, incited by their self-serving unelected backers. Palestinians even teach their children at Kindergarten to attack Israel, rather than be peaceful. Children. Kindergarten. From day one, and even today it's wage war on Israel. Israel defends herself. Yes sometimes going too far, which is unacceptable, but self-defense nonetheless. All that needs to happen is for Palestinians to choose peace side by side with Israel. This is more likely going forward now because the unelected dictators are being removed from power by their people, one by one. They will no longer use the Palestinians for their own internal political ploys.

  • joe.mase.7 - 2012-11-18 12:30

    There goes the Nazis; all signing up... we know what eventually happened to the Nazis. Bloody thieves, they steal the land, displace millions of people, kill these displaced people, they then call them terrorists for defending themselves in any small way they can, I'm surprised they haven't renamed Gaza to ME Concentration Camp.

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