Israel OKs more settlement homes

2012-12-25 14:02

Jerusalem - Israel's interior ministry has approved the building of 1 200 new homes in the east Jerusalem settlement neighbourhood of Gilo, the latest in a slew of such approvals, Israeli watchdog Peace Now said.

The approval, which came late on Monday night, follows Israeli committee approvals for thousands of units in neighbourhoods across east Jerusalem and in the West Bank last week.

"This approval from the interior ministry for the construction of 1 200 homes in Gilo comes after a meeting on Thursday by the planning committee for the Jerusalem district to hear objections to the project," Hagit Ofran of Peace Now told AFP.

The approval applies to the Mordot Gilo extension of Gilo, a settlement neighbourhood in southern Jerusalem near the Palestinian city of Bethlehem.

"In the past seven days alone, Israel has approved 5 350 new settler units in East Jerusalem, a pace unprecedented since 1967," Daniel Seidemann of the Terrestrial Jerusalem settlement watchdog group wrote on his official Twitter account.

Israel captured east Jerusalem during the 1967 Six Day War and later annexed it in a move never recognised by the international community.

It considers all of Jerusalem its "eternal, undivided" capital and defends construction in all parts of the city.

But the Palestinians want east Jerusalem for the capital of their promised state, and they - along with the international community - consider settlement construction in east Jerusalem and the West Bank a violation of international law.

  • boom.afridi.56 - 2012-12-25 14:20

    and you wonder why they get rockets fired at them

      Mncedisi Ncube - 2012-12-25 15:31

      and you wonder why Israel fire back, Israel want peace and they wll hv it!

      ryan.rat.roberts - 2012-12-25 17:10

      Jerusalem is at the heart of Israel's history! They trying to get back what's theirs.

      johan.dutoit.566148 - 2012-12-25 19:44

      Ryan, the "history" of your forefathers does not entitle you to privileges in the present. Especially not when it is to the detriment of others. Who do you think you are? Or do you expect special treatment because you think you are "God's chosen people"?

      mikel.kiparski.7 - 2012-12-26 09:27

      it is beyond their ability ,after all god gave them their religion and land

      avremel.niselow - 2012-12-26 13:46

      John, the Palestinians have far more land than the Israelis, its called Jordan. Jerusalem on the other hand belongs in its entirety to Israel.

      larry.lachman.54 - 2012-12-30 23:01

      What's done is done. All of Jerusalem is now sovereign Israeli territory and no international recognition or approval is sought or required.

      yakoobm - 2013-01-01 22:40

      Go ahead and build all that you want the Palestinians will need these houses when they kick the Israelis out of Palestine which includes Jerusalem.

  • renard.souza - 2012-12-25 15:28

    Taking what they want and then cry when they get missiles launched at them

      avremel.niselow - 2012-12-25 15:43

      You cannot take that which is already yours, Gilo is part of Jerusalem.

      danny.levin.33 - 2012-12-25 16:12

      Renard, one could say exactly your words about the chaps in Gaza...

      mikel.kiparski.7 - 2012-12-26 09:39

      you r mistaken they take nothing it was all given 2 them by their god they even wrote a book 2 prove it=torah and an instruction manual=talmud on how to keep it,but what do i know i am just an ignorant uneducated illiterate racist antisemitic fool who cant spell or punctuate

      luigi.bonfig - 2012-12-29 02:58

      Right, because it was Israel that rejected the 1947 Partition Plan dividing the area into two states? The ignorance of many South Africans is astounding.

      yakoobm - 2013-01-01 22:44

      Let them build all they can, with American tax payers money, the Palestinians will need these houses when they kick the Israelis out of Palestine which includes Jerusalem.

  • Bob.Cee123 - 2012-12-25 15:41

    God's chosen children running roughshod over everybody else once again.

      MallyGold - 2012-12-26 22:22

      No Bob, Israel has legitimate right to the West Bank and they are fully within their right to build homes for Israeli citizens.

  • - 2012-12-25 15:42

    Was this not the 6 day war where Israel was attacked unprovoked by Egypt, Syria, Jordan, etc. And these countries thought they could walk over them and then they ended up with 'bloodied noses'?

      danny.levin.33 - 2012-12-25 16:16

      Brendan, let me correct you. the surrounding arab nations attacked Israel (without provocation) in 1948, 1967,1973. the Lebanon wars were caused by unrelenting rockets, artillery and other terrorists attacks from Lebanon territory which were supported and orchestrated by Arab nations. As Golda Meir said, there will not be peace in the Middle East until Arab mothers learn to love their children more than they hate the Jews. - 2012-12-25 17:07

      @ Danny. Apologies I did not use my words correctly. I meant to say that the 6 day war was an unprovoked attack on Israel, which the UN did nothing about. When Israel defends itself nearly everyone is on its case, calling for sanctions,etc. All the while Syria is killing its own people and the world does nothing compared to how it reacts to Israel

      danny.levin.33 - 2012-12-25 18:48

      Brendan, no apologies needed. you were right about 1967, I just saw it fit to add the rest. BTW, the UN never did anything to stop or deterr any arabs from attacking Israel. in the 80's the French UN troops in Southern Lebanon were assistiting the PLO, AMAL and HIZBOLLAA.

  • davidrobertlewis - 2012-12-25 16:05

    You fail to mention that Jordan annexed the West Bank and East Jerusalem from 1948 to 1967 and that the Arab nations refused to accept any proposals which would have given created a separate Palestinian State. Palestinians are not fighting for self-determination, if they were they the world would end up with two Palestinian states. Jordan has exactly the same flag as the proposed Palestinian State. Palestine has never existed as a separate state but was part of the Ottoman Empire. Turkey supported Hitler during WWII. 80% of the Levant was given to the Arabs. In the light of the recent statements by the Hamas leader to the effect "not one grain of sand" of the Middle East will be allowed to be occupied by the Jews, we must do everything we can to suppress Hamasist Rule, also the Palestinian struggle lacks a Freedom Charter and consequently has no legitimacy. - 2012-12-25 17:42

      The people that gave this thumbs down, I would like to hear their arguments against, based on DOCUMENTED(NOT BIASED) FACTS and not EMOTIONS

      harry.saunders.7712 - 2012-12-25 21:40

      yep very VERY true david.thereafter it became a british protectorate after which the UN okayed the resurrection of the holy land of ISRAEL.U see david many of the current problems in whole of the mediterain had its roots with the evil and wicked ottoman empire/ mention a few,kurdistan,the massacre of thousands of Armenians by turkey,the occupation of cyprus,the forced convertion of slavs in the BALKANS/YUGOSLAVIA.VIVA MILOSOVICH,VIVA RADKO MLADIC.

      fidelity.mcoshi - 2012-12-25 21:51

      Palestinians don't owe their legitimacy to Zionists, and the "whole" world recognises their struggle and existence as legitimate!

      MallyGold - 2012-12-26 22:29

      @Fidelity: World view does not make a falsehood right.

      larry.lachman.54 - 2012-12-30 23:07

      The Palestinians have no legitimacy other than to acknowledge that they are Jordanians, or egyptians as far as Gaza is concerned. Israel is legitimate, East Jerusalem is now annexed by Israel, and so-called Palestinians must negotiate on Israels terms if they want any form of state and legitimacy.

  • Willie Olivier - 2012-12-25 16:17

    i'm for Israel! Viva Israel!

      fidelity.mcoshi - 2012-12-25 21:48

      They're heading to the abyss, if you're happy with that then go ahead and carry egging them on.

      avremel.niselow - 2012-12-25 22:00

      Jews were heading to the abyss before Israel, now they are protected.

      fidelity.mcoshi - 2012-12-25 22:07

      In the end, Israel will pay for these things. They are destroying the political channels to a negotiated two state solution. They think they can get away with this forever. But that is a delusion. When they eventually realise that, it will be too late. Its called hubris!

      avremel.niselow - 2012-12-25 22:12

      The political channels to a two state solution were destroyed by the Arabs refusal to recognize the reality of a Israel. Prior to 1948 the Arabs rejected a partition plan which would have given Israel a fraction of what it has now, the Jews had accepted this plan. Instead, the Arab nations went to war in order to wipe out the Jewish state.

      fidelity.mcoshi - 2012-12-25 22:22

      Where have you been, the 22 nations of the Arab League unanimously ratified just such a recognition in 2002. Why should Arabs have accepted a plan which was imposed on them by Europeans. menechen begin and his terrorist gangs didn't, which is why they launched their war of independence. Would Jews accept such a plan today. The Palestinians have already agreed to rescind 80% of their former territory to Israel, yet that is still not enough for the right-wing Israeli government.

      avremel.niselow - 2012-12-25 22:25

      That was far too late, the war of independence began when Egypt, Syria and Jordan invaded Israel immediately after its creation. That was how Judea and Samaria became the West Bank of Jordan. The same thing happened with gaza.

      avremel.niselow - 2012-12-25 22:28

      You cannot ratify a plan you expressly repudiated, as evidenced by the invasion in 1948 40 years later. The Palestinians already have most of the land, namely Jordan.

      fidelity.mcoshi - 2012-12-25 22:37

      Bollocks, after Israel declared itself a state on May 14, 1948, Israeli terrorism continued in an effort to push more Palestinians from their homes. The Stem and Irgun gangs comprised of right-wing Zionists never accepted the partitioning as well from inception, and started attacking Arab villages, resulting in the expulsion of +- 700000 Arabs from both Israel and Palestine, fleeing for their lives as these gangs weren't bluffing, have murdered countless Arab villagers. Their first major act of terrorism against the Palestinians was at the Palestinian village of Deir Yassin. During the night of April 9, 1948, two Zionist terrorist gangs, the Irgun and the Stem Gang attacked and massacred over 250 men, women and children. Menachem Begin, leader of the attack on Deir Yassin and later Prime Minister of Israel, has this to say, "The massacre was not only justified, but there would not have been a state of Israel without the 'victory' at Deir Yassin'. The massacre at Deir Yassin caused other Palestinians to flee their homes in fear. Zionist terrorists drove trucks with loudspeakers through the streets and over the roads of Palestine warning Palestinians that what happened at Dear Yassin would happen to them if they didn't leave.

      avremel.niselow - 2012-12-25 22:44

      The partition plan was a two way street, if one side repudiates it, it has no legitimacy. Stern and Irgun were fringe groups, the main Jewish leadership such as Ben Gurion accepted it. The Arabs carried out numerous attacks on Jewish towns both before and and during the war. Many of the Arabs who left had been there for as little as 3 years prior to leaving, as evidenced by the UN changing the definition of "refugee". The Arab states expelled or forced to flee nearly one million Jews from their countries at the same time:

      fidelity.mcoshi - 2012-12-25 22:50

      This is when I give up as the moderator will not allow me to post atrocities perpetrated by these terrorist gangs leading up to the expulsion of Arabs from their lands and the subsequent war declared by the Arab armies. Moderation is considered censure in some countries!

      avremel.niselow - 2012-12-25 22:51


      reg.nagel - 2012-12-26 23:37

      VIVA ISRAEL...

      larry.lachman.54 - 2012-12-30 23:14

      Fidel, single incidents do not do justice to the complexity of the issue. Harping on injustices perpetrated by Stern and Irgun, without a balanced view on the realities of both sides at the time, is like demonising the ANC government for the Marakane massacre. Grow up already.

  • - 2012-12-25 18:27

    I've noticed that all the Israeli bashers cannot come up with facts when they are presented with facts about the history of the Israeli-Palestinian situation, only emotions and hatred.

      danny.levin.33 - 2012-12-25 18:51

      Brendan, it is funny how these antisemites (Jew haters) jump to defend their "oppressed brothers" in Israel while they have nothing to say about their "Muslim Brothers" being slaughtered wholesale in Syria.

      johan.dutoit.566148 - 2012-12-25 19:28

      Brendan, I feel exactly the same about Zionists. Facts does not matter. All they can say is: "We are God's favorite people so we can do whatever we feel like." They don't care for anyone but themselves and they will murder and oppress everyone that stand in the way of them getting whatever it is they want.

      avremel.niselow - 2012-12-25 19:51

      In any disaster in the world, for instance Haiti or Ghana, Israel is one of the first to provide assistance. During operation pillar of defence they continued to truck in supplies to Gaza as well as providing electricity. They clearly even care about those who hate them. On the other hand, countries like Iran provide weapons to terrorists and dictators like Assad. - 2012-12-25 21:50

      @ Johan, you have proved my point. Where are your Israeli bashing facts. Go look at the comments for Israel and you will see well researched facts.

      fidelity.mcoshi - 2012-12-25 21:54

      "During operation pillar of defence they continued to truck in supplies to Gaza as well as providing electricity." To think that Palestinians will voluntarily consent to the realisation of Zionism in return for the cultural and economic benefits Israel can bestow on them is infantile. Zionists are truly delusional!

      avremel.niselow - 2012-12-25 21:59

      I said no such thing in my post. I merely disputed Johan's post in which he claimed that Israel only cares about itself. Arabs ate fundamentally opposed to any religion other than their own having a country in the Middle East. Lebanon is a good example of this attitude.

      fidelity.mcoshi - 2012-12-25 22:09

      Your analysis of the Arab viewpoint demonstrates a huge oversimplification of the situation. Casting an entire ethnic group as seeking to "drive away those who are different" ignores the nuance found in the Arab people's diversity. We cannot ignore the fact that overcoming differences can be enormously difficult, especially in a region marked by passions, traditions, and cultures that are intricately connected and markedly different. That does not mean that Arabs, just as any other peoples, are incapable of accepting differences.

      avremel.niselow - 2012-12-25 22:15

      Take a look at countries such as Nigeria where Islamists are attempting to take over the country, or Pakistan where people are sentenced to death for insulting Islam, or the many Islamic countries with religious police, sadly there does not seem to be much acceptance of other cultures.

      avremel.niselow - 2012-12-25 22:18

      Egypt just established a constitution based on Sharia law, how is that respecting other cultures?

      fidelity.mcoshi - 2012-12-25 22:28

      You confuse the term Arab with Muslim--the two are neither interchangeable nor synonymous.

      avremel.niselow - 2012-12-25 22:33

      Fair enough, however the attitudes towards other cultures are often the same. Now answer my question please.

      larry.lachman.54 - 2012-12-30 23:19

      A case in point then, is the expulsion of 'ARAB' Jews from Muslim countries in the Middle East. What was that about "Arabs are (not) incapable of accepting differences", Fidel?

  • harry.saunders.7712 - 2012-12-25 21:55

    o jislaaik the old rick ma roll again and out of the woodwork come ISRAELy bashers again

  • lacrimose.wolf - 2012-12-25 21:56

    Most people live where they want to live. Other people decide they want to live there and those people must go. Both parties then end up in all sorts of arguments from history to religion and everything in between. The only RATIONAL reason why anyone would wish to invade someone else's space is because there's something better there; water, food, economic viability, escaping tyranny. All this talk of who is entitled to what, where, when and why. It's all so much BS. We've run out of space, we've run out places to flee. Time to start making the places we live in more habitable instead of glaring over our neighbour's fence because they have a nicer lawn. In short, please will everyone grow up. Lobbing rocks or missiles or anything else has accomplished nothing positive at all. Good for the armaments business, good for the politricksters but really, really bad for the people who have to live either side of this absurdity.

      larry.lachman.54 - 2012-12-30 23:22

      Great use of brain matter. If Israel were still a scrub desert with little or no economy and infrastructure, there would be nothing to fight for for the Arabs, and nothing to defend for the Jews.

  • harry.saunders.7712 - 2012-12-25 22:00

    sori my Y was bashed (maY b bY The ISRAELY bashers..sic)It shud read ISRAELY

  • harry.saunders.7712 - 2012-12-25 22:10

    Hi Fidelity macosi u get mixed up here with the land fraud perpetrated here by Lenasia where black people was defrauded by fellow black people over land.

      fidelity.mcoshi - 2012-12-25 22:26

      I just have no time for attention seekers. You are lucky to be getting this response from me. Now Eff off!

  • harry.saunders.7712 - 2012-12-25 22:46

    fidelity,typical of arab supporters what next u gonna do?Bomb this this site

  • jeremy.bard.31 - 2012-12-26 01:11

    More thievery by the world's leading racist bandits under the guise of a fictitious/fairytale title deed and supported by the so-called "free world", and also spurred on by remants (scraps)of the erstwhile apartheid regime here in SA.

      avremel.niselow - 2012-12-26 09:17

      Seriously, if you have nothing mature to add to existing debate on a subject, but only wild accusations based purely on conjecture, stay out.

      Shane Loxton - 2012-12-26 11:01

      well said Jeremy

  • annie.israel.50 - 2012-12-26 13:47

    Israel is allowed building - they only want peace as they have been bombarded by the terrorist, Palestinians for far to long!! - Jerusalem belongs to the Jews and NOBODY ELSE -it does not matter how many nations complain ISRAEL WILL NOT LISTEN AND CARRY ON BUILDING

      mikel.kiparski.7 - 2012-12-28 08:02

      yes kick out all these pesky palestinians that keep getting in the way and turn them into terrorists WELL DONE KEEP IT UP

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